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11-14-2006, 07:18 AM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by sierra_bound

I'm running Orthos now at DDR2-1287. One thing I found is that raising the FSB and NB voltages to the max does not necessarily help.

It actually hurts performance in my testing. ;) I saw the board running at DDR2-1333 (5-5-5-18) yesterday, the memory is not available yet. :slobber:
11-14-2006, 07:38 AM
MTP04

I recently found a solution to a problem I have benn having when overclocking my evga 680i board.

When I first got the board I was running 1750mhz QFSB with out any problems whatsoever but once I get into the 1900's I get almost like a cold boot issue. Basically at 1909 QFSB I can boot into windows and 3d bench for hours but once I reset my computer the system wont boot up and will automatically go back to default speeds. So I found that when it dosent want to boot up I have to turn the psu off BEFORE the system changes back to defaults and wait for 10-15 seconds for the motehrboard to completey power down and then I turn the power supply back on and power on the motherboard and then she boots up just fine at 1909 QFSB for some more benching.

Has anyone else have this problem?
11-14-2006, 07:51 AM
Yoxxy

Kentsfield has major problems with this board. I was not stable above 310 fsb with a stepping 7 B3. I have since sold it for even money and went back to P5B which hits 440 on Kentsfield with everything at auto...
11-14-2006, 07:52 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by techstyled

I second this motion. I'm getting very confused, especially about CPU voltage.

I have seen the following in this thread alone:

bingo - 1.392
Dumo - 1.150
Dumo - 1.125
xgmam - 1.637
camb - 1.352
etc.

Now I know we all have different cooling and such but there seems to be a very wide variety.

There's a LOT of run in between 1.125 and 1.637.

Could someone give a noob like me the following:

Stock Voltage (I think 1.20v?)
"Safe" air cooling max volt - ?
"Safe" water cooling max volt - ?
Avg volt need to achieve Avg OC results - ?

I know I should have a handle on the above but, tbh, I don't have a clue.

I've got one of each variant from X6800 to E6300 to play with but my first "eyes bleeding 3am" run was not awe inspiring. I was only using stock cooling at the time but still.

I'll be throwing my Scythe Mine into the mix and then moving on to my WC setup but I'd appreciate a heads up on what I should be getting results from (i.e. "you shouldn't have to set volts higher than X to get to 3.4 with the X6800").

TIA

My 1.6375 is actual 1.58 in bios and also on phase. The board undervolts I believe although I have not used a digital multi meter to verify bios readings.
11-14-2006, 07:54 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by sierra_bound

I think you're giving up on the board way too early. Most boards, including 965 and 975X, are usually not very good with the initial bios. Some, like the P5B Dlx, got a lot better with bios updates.

The EVGA board is slow in Pi. I think that's going to be true of most 680i boards. But they overclock memory very well. At least mine does.

I noticed the Pi thing also. Your p5B Pi score http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/1006/4653gd3.jpg at 11 at 4653mhz
On the 680i my 4500mhz score was 12.18, although I had backfround stuff running, they should be closer, no?
11-14-2006, 08:03 AM
xgman

Anyone else have this problem? When I set the boot order to usb floppy/cdrom/hard drive, I get no boot to hard drive. just sits at black screen after post. When I set boot order at hard drive first, all is fine. So to boot to a usb floppy or cdrom, I have to chnage the 1st boot device to that one and diable the 2nd and 3rd. basically the boot order is f'ed and this happens on ship bios and P20 bios.
11-14-2006, 09:06 AM
sierra_bound

Quote:

Originally Posted by vmsein

Sierra, which cpu are you using for these tests?

X6800 retail

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

It actually hurts performance in my testing. ;) I saw the board running at DDR2-1333 (5-5-5-18) yesterday, the memory is not available yet. :slobber:

Oh, you mean like this.;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../DDR2-1333.jpg

The purpose of running Orthos is to test stability, not performance. I'm sure you know that.
11-14-2006, 09:27 AM
FEEXX

Damn so what is evga waiting for new bios release now! I'm getting mine by tomorrow, unfortunately i'll not be able to test it, this commets make me feel blue, i thouhg i did a GDMF purchase but i'm starting to doubt.

lets hope problems will be solved soon and thanks for sharing everyone! ;)
11-14-2006, 09:55 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by FEEXX

Damn so what is evga waiting for new bios release now! ;)

It's Nvida waiting, not EVGA. The same bios will go to BFG etc. Should be out sometime this week.
11-14-2006, 01:42 PM
NapalmV5

i hope RD600 puts all to shame
11-14-2006, 01:43 PM
zakelwe

My 680i also tops out at exactly 449FSB .. any higher does not work ( 466,480,502). I cannot try ntune as that does not run, just dies when trying to open the overclocking pannel. If I could try ntune I think I would be ok, similar to how UGuru helped the nforce3 on the Abit back of yore :)

Also, if the system is not run in Linked mode and not in sync then performance really suffers.

975 12x300 RAM 800Mhz 4-4-4-12 7900GS 540/750 2001 = 481150
680 12x300 unlinked RAM 800Mhz 4-4-4-12 = 47400 2T and 47800 1T
680 12x300 linked sync 800Mhz 4-4-4-12 = 48250 IT

If you are running 2T and not linked and in sync then it is no wonder SuperPi times are low.....

I'm going to wait for BIOS and ntune revisions or somebody on the forums to find the solution, just got to wait. I'll continue testing tomorrow.

Regards

Andy
11-14-2006, 02:40 PM
cleanerupper

I'm having this wierd issue with the 680i on an e6600. When I set the multiplier down to 8x and the FSB to 400MHz, the BOIS startup screen, Orthos, and Nvidia Monitor will report it as 3600Mhz (450Mhz x 8) but CPU-Z and Nvidia Control Panel will report it as it should be, 3200Mhz (400Mhz x 8).

Here's a screenshot showing the issue:

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/7517/mhzpk6.jpg
11-14-2006, 02:50 PM
zakelwe

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleanerupper

I'm having this wierd issue with the 680i on an e6600. When I set the multiplier down to 8x and the FSB to 400MHz, the BOIS startup screen, Orthos, and Nvidia Monitor will report it as 3600Mhz (450Mhz x 8) but CPU-Z and Nvidia Control Panel will report it as it should be, 3200Mhz (400Mhz x 8).

Here's a screenshot showing the issue:

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/7517/mhzpk6.jpg

Sounds like this

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=150

Regards

Andy
11-14-2006, 02:54 PM
Grinch

Quote:

Originally Posted by NapalmV5

i hope RD600 puts all to shame

hope is all we have..:clap:
11-14-2006, 03:02 PM
cleanerupper

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakelwe

Sounds like this

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=150

Regards

Andy

That sounds exactly like the issue I'm having. Thanks! So does this sound like a bug that should be fixed with a new BIOS release?
11-14-2006, 03:43 PM
damnnit

This happened on my P5B too. Windows, Orthos, and other programs thinks its (default multiplier x FSB = Speed posted) while cpu-z will post the correct numbers.

so it is posting 3600mhz for you because it thinks its 9 (default for E6600) x 400 = 3600mhz.
11-14-2006, 04:05 PM
cleanerupper

Quote:

Originally Posted by damnnit

This happened on my P5B too. Windows, Orthos, and other programs thinks its (default multiplier x FSB = Speed posted) while cpu-z will post the correct numbers.

so it is posting 3600mhz for you because it thinks its 9 (default for E6600) x 400 = 3600mhz.

Yes, it's posting 3600Mhz, but instead of saying 9x400Mhz at bootup, it will post 8x450Mhz. All the while, it is actually set at 8x400Mhz in the bios.

There must be some mismatched multiplier settings in the bios somewhere.
11-14-2006, 07:01 PM
Amiteriver

Got it today evga 8800 x2 and evga 680i -
http://service.futuremark.com/orb/pr...ojectId=634484
no case on air :)
11-14-2006, 07:15 PM
rjw

Just starting to play with this board

so far fsb = 471.1 and rising

where do you see the bios version?

mine says 2.053.57 , but zi only see it when booting up and an error occurs, otherwise it flashes by.

evga board btw
11-14-2006, 08:13 PM
charlie

interesting... a broad range of results on this chipset.
11-14-2006, 09:10 PM
kyosen

Hi, I'm also playing with eVGA's NF680i/P19 BIOS in these days:)

My board/CPU goes upto 466MHz.
http://222.151.144.121/c-board/file/...80i_FSB466.png

Mouse(via PS/2) jumping problem was resolved by using USB mouse...
...of course it's a FUGGER's suggestion, many thanks!!!:)

>I cannot try ntune as that does not run, just dies when trying to open the overclocking pannel.
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I suspect that this OC pannel dying problem is derived from language/localization immaturity.
Yes I'm a japanese and using WinXPSP2 Japanese edition, and I also got same problem.
Next I change region/language option at Windows controll panel from Japanese to English/USA,
then I tried nTune...OC pannel appears correctly.
But still I can't change FSB by nTune...it returns error code:(
11-14-2006, 10:30 PM
zakelwe

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyosen

>I cannot try ntune as that does not run, just dies when trying to open the overclocking pannel.
--
I suspect that this OC pannel dying problem is derived from language/localization immaturity.
Yes I'm a japanese and using WinXPSP2 Japanese edition, and I also got same problem.
Next I change region/language option at Windows controll panel from Japanese to English/USA,
then I tried nTune...OC pannel appears correctly.
But still I can't change FSB by nTune...it returns error code:(

Thanks for that information Kyosen. I and other people also have it with English version, however I am the other person who mentioned it are in the UK not USA and so have English UK set I think... maybe English Uk is not proper English also ! :D I am at work but will try it tonight....

Regards
Andy
11-15-2006, 01:03 AM
lopri

Weird because I have no crashing or closing issue with nTune. Also my GPU overclocking screen is different from others'. :confused:
11-15-2006, 02:42 AM
zakelwe

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopri

Weird because I have no crashing or closing issue with nTune. Also my GPU overclocking screen is different from others'. :confused:

Interesting! Do you have web space to load your ntune files up to so we can download and try ?

Regards

Andy
11-15-2006, 04:20 AM
easyrider

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleanerupper

I'm having this wierd issue with the 680i on an e6600. When I set the multiplier down to 8x and the FSB to 400MHz, the BOIS startup screen, Orthos, and Nvidia Monitor will report it as 3600Mhz (450Mhz x 8) but CPU-Z and Nvidia Control Panel will report it as it should be, 3200Mhz (400Mhz x 8).

Here's a screenshot showing the issue:

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/7517/mhzpk6.jpg

Thats exactly the issue I am having

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