Isn't it nice to see one of the FIRST decent PCI-e Slot layouts ever!Quote:
Originally Posted by Phosphate
Check it out
This has to be the way forward for all Chipset & Motherboard layouts. Eventually, PCI will just fade out like ISA did.
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Isn't it nice to see one of the FIRST decent PCI-e Slot layouts ever!Quote:
Originally Posted by Phosphate
Check it out
This has to be the way forward for all Chipset & Motherboard layouts. Eventually, PCI will just fade out like ISA did.
Hoping I'm not barking up the wrong tree, DFI's RD600 Layout appears to have changed somewhat;
From this:
First Layout
To this:
New Layout
It sure would be nice to know why?
Maybe to terminate the PCI-e bus correctly or a chipset issue?
Shame about the split SATA headers for it. Top ones could have been made USB to put all 4 SATA on bottom edge.
Utopia...not a chance in this life........
*Edit - The KARAJAN Sound module was not inserted on First Layout Pics at time of photo. Header is present on mobo with AUX Phonos as well*
Certainly has changed, maybe adressing vga heat issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kin Hell
I much prefer the second layout over the first...In fact this is by far the best layout for double video cards that I have seen...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kin Hell
Yeah it's just to increase the slot spacing I imagine. Leaving only one slot between each PCI-E x16 connector was pretty silly; the new layout is much better.
...Definately....just a shame about the SATA Split!Quote:
Originally Posted by sdumper
agreed, you definately loose 2 SATA ports if you got a 2 slot cooler on the 3th vga
new slot layout WTF.. for sure done for better cooling.. me thinks. :)
I wonder how the driver support wil be... since this is ATI's last chipset for intel and AMD-ATI.
I'm really looking forward to this board.DFI is a real OC supporter, unlike ASUS.And for those of us with x68, OC options such as high vcore in bios are more important than FSB heights...
Not quite m8....FSB = X Mb/sec Memory Bandwidth.Quote:
Originally Posted by mykeos
FASTER FSB's = Even more Mb/Sec Memory Bandwidth - on Intel based PC's.
Thats the thing with Intel Rigs...The faster the FSB, the Higher the Mem Bandwidth & the Faster your PC will perform. It'll be very very Interesting to see what happens to Mem bandwidths when Intel release their Next Gen of CPU's in 2007 with their OWN on-board Memory Controller. AMD Systems need HIGH multipliers for better Performance/More Mem Bandwidth. Fast FSB's on AMD systems make very little difference, but do enhance things slightly.
Playing with an Opteron 170 & 175 side by side showed this so blatently. The Opty 175 on a 10 Multiplier instead of 11, gave EXACTLY the same bandwith as the Opty 170 on a 10 multiplier, & the Opty 175 was on a Faster FSB @ 10 X multiplier. The difference was within 20Mb/Sec or so which you can right-off during bench to bench. You can drop the Multiplier on an ES Intel CPU & see the Memory Bandwidth STILL increase despite the lesser Multiplier:)
Just to add, the info above apertains to DDR Based systems. DDR2 is another equation all together & is something I will be experimenting with when I get this board. We shall see.
With DDR3 & Rambus2 round the corner, the cake you eat will be a different kind....thats for sure! DDR2 was a bit like AM2 socket AMD CPU's. It was a BIG party no one really went to, but everyone that went, emptied their wallet ;)
Incidently, ATI already have made their RD600 Chipset work with DDR3, but there is no version of this board untill 2007 & rumour on the Web has it this DFI RD600 Based Mobo will be the ONLY one ever using the RD600 chipset. It probably has someting to do with Copyrights on 1333 Strapping from Intel. These 1333 fsb based CPU's wont be available untill 2007 & bearing in mind Rambus2 (Intel Technology), the road map is already laid out for more wallet emptying. :eek:
It would be nice to see Rambus2 floor the rest, Rambus did on its second Gen modules & Rambus still floors DDR2 in certain areas of 3DMark 01, (check your FPS figures at certain points of Benchmark) which is just purely, a Memory Bandwith intensive application. 3Dmark 03/05/06 loved AMD CPU's with FAST Multipliers. I reckon there will be some hit for Intel using their own onboard Memory Controllers, or another version of CPU to overcome the slow-ness as we saw with Intel Socket 423 CPU's. Socket 478 technology was a breath of fresh air by comparison.
The money spent by companies like Intel, developing their technologies, .....has to be borne by punters like us!
I've been sat on an Intel CORE DUO 6600ES for about two & a half months now.....waiting for the right board. I've just got to the point where I'm fed up of taking it in the Ass. PC's depreciate MORE than friggin' cars!
*edit* -B!tch-moan over...........I'm getting too old for this crap............F'k it, I'm off to spin out! :dj:
:confused: @ Kin.
What's the score about DDR2? Everyone's buying it now (eg: It's on all new boards) . :slap:
And why you are on about Rambus? Everyone hates those sneaky bastards.
And we all know that Ddr3 will never show on a RD600....
FSB is always good especially with dual core and multitasking :)
On AMD, FSB made a pretty big difference with barton chips but that all changed after that, partly why I never bothered much with A64.
Ive used ATI chipsets before with an 805 and the async was usefull but dont expect gigantic increases from pushing the memory further unless the rig really needs it, ie. multitasking, etc
lol why do people hate Rambus?Quote:
Originally Posted by Poodle
:D The grand slam will be the independent working RAM........., no multis and no dividers...........:banana:
:toast:
I'm not so sure your comments are really worth replying to.....but you got another post racked up eh! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Poodle
Perhaps if you had experience with a Decent Rambus setup, you'd know what I was on about! DDR2 was released to topple Rambus in performance & Price. Rambus was & still is very expensive. So far as DDR3 goes, why have ATI bothered utilising DDR3 with the RD600 Chipset? So far, all we know from the Web is this RD600 chipset isn't going to be used by any other Mobo maker other than DFI & nor will RD600 ever support Intel again. DDR3 will be DDR's next hope at keeping Rambus2 at bay, so hold on to your hat. I'm sure the Intel Roadmap regarding supporting RAM technologies is already well laid out. Probably so much so, this is one of the reasons along with 1333 Strap being slower than 1066 Straps - again tied in with Intels Muscle on protecting their investment in their technological developments.
Dunno m8y...it's a shame they know no better really!Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesAvery22
Hopefully, this'll be the big one - nVidia didn't get it right, just like their cr4p SLI. It's never been right & thats why Quad SLI is as crap as it is. Unified drivers my Fat Arse! :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by camouflage
any news on the release date?
;) Yes, chances are hi it's coming out even this year.............:ROTF: :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Senater_Cache
Not so shore abaut that,2 or 3 week is max for review of this mb.;)
Don't you just Love links like this crap..........Quote:
Originally Posted by Spacemaster
Yugoslavia aint ur day to day choice of language.......
Strange this is...I didn't see a sinlge pic of a DFI RD600 based MoBo anywhere......
Any chance you could be bit less, er........Cryptic!?
Dfi + Conroe = Crap
WOW.......Pick a fight why dont'chya! :shoot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dax5
Hmm... I though posting without facts was crap...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dax5
but with all the reasons you gave, you must be right :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Dax5
Back it up genius... :slap:
Hey you knobs, I'm getting email after email alerting me to this thread because you walking penis's with ears haven't left the school playground yet... gimmie a f#cking break