I guess this means no impressive stock overclocks.. :(
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I guess this means no impressive stock overclocks.. :(
No ream sinks? whats up with that :mad:
It really does look like a mainstream card.
I get to see the 7900GT and 7900GTX on asian site.
The estimate price:
7900GT = 400 ish
7900GTX = 900 ish.
7600GT = 250 ish
That last one looks alot like the 7800GTX 512
Ya. Pretty much the same looking
7900 SLI
Yes problaly fake pic or they use the same layout/pcb.Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
So 14% max increase over a regular 7800GTX 256MB??? wtf is that? So this is in fact an inkling more powerful than the 7800GTX 512MB? BLAH.
that hsf looks crappy... and no cooling for the ram?
So me must spend 50 dolars in a decent air cooling to clock our cards good...
What would be the max teoric of 1,4ns memory? 1400mhz?
No. A stock 7800GTX 512MB could never go that low. Especially if they got 5k with a 7900GTX, which would say they used a very good CPU or it was overclocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Willis
The tests below were done with a single core. And we all know how bad those are in 3dmark06.....
1000/1.4Quote:
Originally Posted by DeToNaToR.cl
so easy dont you think?
some news from my friend
7900gtx1G is probably not to releast
nvidia should send out the ES already 3 weeks ago but til now there are not 1G ES on anywhere
eh what is 7900gtx1G?
or do you mena 7900gtx?
7900gtx with a gig of mem I think he meant.
7900gtx with a gig of VRAM, no doubt.
7900gtx512 which has 512MB GDDR3 ramQuote:
Originally Posted by Starscream
7900gtx1g which has 1GB GDDR3 ram
o i thought the 1GB model with the G71 would be limited ot the quadro models.
maybe they think for the geforce range it would make them insanely expensive (cause theyd have to put 512Mb more ram onit) with no real speed boost.
nVidia has produced just 30 x dual pcb cards for beggining (and will sell them only in allready pc's as you know):D
the overclockabillity is better due to 90nm procces technology....
500>>>625 with stock voltage and very very bad aircooling(it was the inside of the dual-pcb card)...:D
1GB or Graphics ram is blatant overkill for gamers.. heck I barely use half of 256mb..
btw i saw the 650/1600 7900gtx with fx60 3G today
3d06 9966
3d05 16181
SLI or Single ? Link ?Quote:
Originally Posted by guess2098
editedQuote:
Originally Posted by bakalu
SLIQuote:
Originally Posted by bakalu
sry no link cuz i saw it with my own eyes
:confused:?
Has this already been posted?
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/819...secret15tz.jpg
Is it fake?
It was one of those things that made me go...WTF?
But I could see with basically a 1/3-1/2 increase in arch and a 35% increase in clockspeed how AIB peeps could be disappointed, even if it performs well.
I'm also hearing 6500 one card in 06...Mix that with what he said, and things are becoming very clear. Perhaps 24rops, 2 shaders per rop? How they'd fit all that on 90nm and that size...I dunno.
maybe they're leveraging their two shader units per pipe architecture for marketing against the R580.
Oh absoutely, that's what it looks like.
But sheesh, that's like:
50% more rops
50% more tmus
200% pixel shaders (Or not...same amount of pixel shaders)
(50% greater clocks)
from 7800gtx on 110nm to 7900gtx on 90nm.
on a die almost half that of R580, when both are 90nm. How the hell...?
I mean, kudos to them for making a small chip with a bunch of tech on it, obviously saves costs and helps the return factor...also explains the limiting of clock potential....but how is that even possible? 55% the size of R580?
Edit: Oh...touche'....I get what you mean. It's always been 1 main ALU and 1 lesser ALU....So it's always been 2 ALUs. So really, no differance.
compusa.com has pny 7900gt's for $349 450/1400 are the clock speeds. anyone with a 7800gtx 256 that can do those clocks want to let us know what your card does? should score identical.
http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...181&pfp=BROWSE
it says coming soon.. lets hope so.. and lets hope that it kicks some serious ass
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1121
3dmark scores for the 7900GTX and GT.
System Configuration:
Athlon 64 FX-55
1GB DDR400 (2x512MB)
nForce4 motherboard
All tests were performed with a 1280x1024 resolution. The cards tested claimed 1.2ns DDR3 for both cards. ForceWare 84.12 was used for testing.
GeForce 7900GTX 512MB
650mhz core clock, 1600MHz memory clock
3dmark 03: 17800
3dmark 05: 7600
3dmark 06: 5200
GeForce 7900GT 256MB
450mhz core clock, 1300MHz memory clock
3dmark 03: 13800
3dmark 05: 7000
3dmark 06: 4550
Why 1280*1024 :confused: ?
yeah.
i only got the free 3dmark05 so i cant change res.
so i have nothing to compaire.
edit: found a 3dmark06 review were they ran 33mark96 with a AMD64 4000+
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...dmark06_9.html
7800gt makes 3396
7800gtx 3812
7800GTX512 4542
x1900xtx 4823
x1900xt 4662
x1800xt 3672
Hey starscream.
Default on 3dmarks up to 05 was 1024x768, then they bumped it to 1280x1024 in 3dmark06. If you lend me a 7900gt i'll run it @ 1280x1024 in 05 ;)
these
7800gt makes 3396
7800gtx 3812
7800GTX512 4542
x1900xtx 4823
x1900xt 4662
x1800xt 3672
are 2006 3dmark
so both 7900gt and 7900gtx are faster than any video card out there
@Weee
i know, the 3dmark05 scores at dailytech are done @1280x1024
i got the free version so cant change my res to compaire my 7800GT.
@leviathan18
ya them scores arent half bad.
the 7900GTX scores slightly above the x1900xtx and the 7900GT scores slightly below the X1900xt.
so for below 300 dollars a 7900gt that can compete with a X1900XT.
that is fi these 3dmark06 scores give us any input on how they behave in games.
Remember ATI's X1800/X1600/X1300 SLides ? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
Far too premature for that statement, especially since the use of 1280x1024 instead of default res for 03 and 05 might be a sign ;)
Plus...with the 7900GT at $349, so is the X1800XT 256MB...and the X1900XL has yet to show up...so the 79xx is far from the last laugh...and it wont even be that with similarities to 78xx line.
However, turtle has uncovered interesting information regarding TMUs on the 79xx that werent there with the 78xx. So they will definitly put up a fight :)
Perkam
Also remember that 3dmark06 biases against NVIDIA pretty heavily, eg X1800XT loses to 7800GT.
that is Biased in favor.. and that is because they amount of OpenGL built into the games..Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmage
I thought it was a Direct3D benchmark. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
In any event, 3dmark06 has the worst comparability of any 3dmark and the worst representation of future in game performance. 3dmark05 is ahead in both of those areas...so it has a long way to go.
Perkam
Definately agree with that..Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Personally I thought its shader dependency, rather than 05's vertex dependency seemed very realistic for future games. Plus, you know, it's not held back by the CPU so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Quote:
Originally Posted by turtle
Easy... The biggest part of the R520/R580 is their memory controller, THAT'S how NVidia's chip is so much smaller. The Ringbus controller is close to 100 million transistors alone IIRC.
As for how they could go 48 shaders, just expand their 2 mini ALU's per pipe that they already had to full ALU's(there are more transistors in G71 than G70) and they'd have 48 shaders as well. Wouldn't take up that much more room to do so.
lol @ Inq.
http://www.theinquirer.net/images/ar.../redgreens.gif
Seeing as ATI and Nvidia will both deny any involvement, the inq is free to parade this as an exclusive. It's quite funny, except it doesn't help ATI...I've seen XTXs doing that score on air.
Perkam
X7900 GTX? This slide is defintely not made by Nvidia :)
mwave does it again......$795.00????
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/DeepSearc...GTX&ALL=y&TP=2
in 3dm05(1280x1024) xt got ~9500 ( a guy with 4000+ stock cpu)Quote:
Originally Posted by Starscream
in 3dm06 xtx with x2 4400+@2.64 got 6,133(10,841 - 3dm05) ( though it would be interesting to know how much 7900gtx would gain from 5200 by addin' 2nd core CPU)
what the fsck.. that is almost double MSRP..Quote:
Originally Posted by wkmgt
its theinq so :)Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
and for Mwave:
it seems some companys dont want to make any money
Ouch! Hopefully the price drops fast. :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by wkmgt
btw, any more info on the "superclock"?
the 78 series had 2 alu's per pipe, it hasnt changed any to the 79 series.
7900GT & 7900GTX pics
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2709
more news
the limit of no v-moded 7900gtx max around 690~700
710 = no way!
memory very hard to reach 1900! bad artifact on 1800 already!
mwave also has a non-superclocked evga 7900GTX for $765
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec....iteria=AA43770
In stock..anyone rich and stupid ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt_Caveman
a steal...Quote:
Originally Posted by wkmgt
id say wait till saine (or hwoever its written) companys got it for sale.
Sane, yes. The prices are insane, problably worse once they reach Europe. 7900GT for 299 dollar will problably cost 400 euro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starscream
MWave does this with EVERY new videocard. Sell as much as they can before it launches.
its sold out:slobber:
how many did they have?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Holy Shizt... how many retards with alot of cash are there?:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
:p: i meant the same but i asked it in a nice way :).Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
has anyone already seen one of these buyers on some hardware forum?
Just checked and there were 80 of them sold.. as of yet none have shown up but I'm lookingQuote:
Originally Posted by Starscream
hehehe i can't wait til 3/8/06 12:00 or 0:00.......
Unlike the 512 GTX, the 7900 will be in ample supply. Just look at the x1900xtx price decline and this will be similar. Should be plenty of supply. But, if you have the cash and want to first on the block. Anyone want a BetaMax?
Not surprised on the memory. The timings will need to be changed to get higher clocks. But, like ATI, nVidia did a little extra homework and found that tighter memory timings will yield better perfromance at spec core clocks. So, in essence, they are matched. But, if you OC the core, the balance goes away, and you need more bandwidth from the memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by guess2098
As for the core, the are putting just enough voltage into the core to get a comfortable pad over the spec clock.
Actually I have a betaMax and the image quality is far superior to VHS.. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavyH20
as for the 7900GTX.. I'm going to wait until it is cost effective...
That's a slightly unfair comparison... Either companies card will work with the same "media"Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavyH20
Beat 1900XTX?:)Quote:
Originally Posted by guess2098
Puts LaserDisc on pause....Oops, sorry, maybe I should have additionally mentioned Crossfire and SLI in that statement. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Mag
As the old saying goes, "Competing standards equals no standards".
But, I have heard of some OEM vendors with custom driver sets to run Crossfire on nForce. So, maybe we will get back to a non-ATI MOBO world, after all. Let's face it, we buy ATI motherboards to support Crossfire, and that's it. It would be nice if both options worked on one platform, no?
ahhh I see where you are going with this now... I was thinking more along the lines of software = mediaQuote:
Originally Posted by HeavyH20
NDA over is 3/8 or 3/9????? i am not sure now...
Don't worry about NDA. Just post pics & benchmarks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by guess2098
lol i want to but if i wanna get the free card next time.... better follow the rule hehehQuote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
I read that it will be launched on March 9, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by guess2098
yeah that is about right, my friend told me 3/8 midnight lol, i guess he doesn't want his job lolQuote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
anyways this is my old "7800GTX512"
http://premium1.uploadit.org/guess20...0/100_3873.JPG
7900GTX @ 710/1860
25593 3DMark03
12287 3DMark05
http://forum.coolaler.com/showthread...1&page=6&pp=10
There are pictures and all the specifications here @ the inquirer!
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30130
Quote:
Geforce 7900 GTX works at 650MHz core and 1600MHz memory. The chip is developed on 90 nanometre marchitecture and has 278 million transistors. The card sports 512MB of 256-bit memory and the chip is significantly smaller than ATI's R580.
The chip has twenty-four pipelines, sixteen ROPs and eight vertex Shaders. It has a total bandwidth of 51.2 GB/s and can perform 1400 millions vertices in second. It has a peak of 120W power consumption. That's a lot for a single card, and you can double that for an SLI system or quadruple it for a four-card configuration.
The slower Geforce 7900 GT features a similar design but comes as a single-slot card clocked at 450MHz core and 1320MHz memory. The card uses the same 256-bit memory but has 256MB only. It has 24 pipelines, 16 ROPs and 8 vertex Shaders. The card will have a peak of 82W power consumption.
The Geforce 7900 GTX should cost between $499-$649. Nvidia recommends a price of approximately $499 for retail cards. The Geforce 7900 GT should cost around $299 and will indeed be an attractive card.
Albatron scheduled on the 13th after 発 売 I will
PC7900GTX-512MB 650MHz/1.6GHz about \70,000 (NT21000)
PC7900GT 450MHz/1.32GHz about \40,000 (NT12000)
PC7600GT-256MB 560MHz/1.4GHz about \26,000 (7800)
-- ASUS 10th 発 売 I will
EN7900GTX/2DHT/512M 650MHz/1.6GHz about \74,000 (NT22200)
EN7900GT TOP/2DHT/256M (OC T. 様 ) 480MHz/1.4GHz about \49,000 (NT14700)
EN7900GT/2DHT/256M 450MHz/1.3GHz about \43,000 (NT12900)
EN7600GT/2DHT/256M 560MHz/1.4GHz about \28,000 (NT8400)
· Biostar after 13 発 売 I will
-- Galaxy 10 発 売 I will
Geforce 7900GTX 512MB DDR3 PCI-E 650MHz/1.6GHz about \74,000 (NT22200)
Geforce 7900GT 256MB DDR3 PCI-E 450MHz/1.3GHz about \41,000 (NT12300)
· gigabyte 10th 発 売 I will
GV-NX79X512VB-RH 650MHz/1.6GHz about \73,000 (NT21900)
GV-NX79T512DB-RH 450MHz/1.3GHz about \42,000 (NT12600)
GV-NX76T256DB-RH 560MHz/1.4GHz about \28,000 (NT8400)
· Inno3D 10th 発 売 I will
Tornado Geforce 7900GTX 512MB DDR3 PCI-E 650MHz/1.6GHz about \73,000 (NT21900)
Tornado Geforce 7900GT 256MB DDR3 PCI-E 450MHz/1.3GHz about \43,000 (NT12900)
Tornado Geforce 7600GT 256MB DDR3 PCI-E 560MHz/1.4GHz about \26,000 (NT7800)
-- Leadtek 10th 発 売 I will
WinFast PX7900 GTX GTX Extreme 512MB (OC T. 様 ) 675MHz/1.66GHz about \79,000 (NT23700)
WinFast PX7900 GTX TDH 512MB 650MHz/1.6GHz about \75,000 (NT22500)
WinFast PX7900 GT TDH Extreme 256MB (OC T. 様 ) 520MHz/1.43GHz about \48,000 (NT14400)
WinFast PX7900 GT TDH 256MB 450MHz/1.32GHz about \43,000 (NT12900)
WinFast PX7600 GT TDH 256MB (Super Guiwuzhe winners) 560MHz/1.4GHz about \27,000 (NT8100)
· MSI 10th 発 売 I will
NX7900GTX-T2D512E 650MHz/1.6GHz about \75,000 (NT22500)
NX7900GT-T2D256E 450MHz/1.3GHz about \42,000 (NT12600)
NX7600GT-T2D256E 560MHz/1.4GHz about \28,000 (NT8400)
-- black people aspirations 10th 発 売 I will
From coolaler..
ANy info on eVGA's models?
And I just dragged this out of google, not sure if it has been posted yet...
http://global.aopen.com.tw/products/...GTX-DVD512.htm
Why on earth would they put 1.2ns in the 7900GTX512 when they had 1.1ns in the 7800GTX512 ???!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Muunsyr
XTX for same price will have guaranteed 1.1ns :rolleyes: Plus scores coming out show that Nvidia go for 03 and 06 domination...20k doesnt look like it will fall with 79xx.
Perkam
read somewere they are going for lower mem clocks but with tighter timings.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
that and maybe its cheaper to get large quantities of 1.2ns ram then it is to get 1.1.
We know that ala X1800XT ;) This is a card coming out 6 months later ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Starscream
Perkam
well GPUs are not that sensitive to bad latencies.. I think if that is true they are trying to keep the price low
To offset the higher cost of 90nm chips for nvidia, perhaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
Perkam
Actually the chips themselves will be cheaper to make.. but it is the cost of installing the Process that is the price factorQuote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Yeah thats what I figured as well. Nvidia didn't want to have to put expensive components in a card that won't sell.
And as of now... 11,3xx stock on an FX-60 @ 3GHz isn't what I would call spectacular :stick:
:p: not really 6 months, like 5 months ago the first few dripped in 4 months ago large scale availability.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
btw
read in a few articles that large OEMs also start to include power usage and heat generation in their choice of graphics cards.
wich could give the 7900GT a benefit if that cooler it has on the pics is true.
price performence wise i think its competitor is the X1800XT but they stopped making them a few ago so i guess there wont be enough stock of em.
What do you mean cost of installing the "Process"?Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
The lithography machines that etch the chips.
By the time these are in large scale availability, its going to be a full six months. My point still stands. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Starscream
Perkam
7900 Benchmarks SLi
3dmark01:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/guess2098/7900/3d01.JPG
http://premium1.uploadit.org/guess2098/7900/3d01_1.JPG
3dmark03:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/guess2098/7900/3d03.JPG
http://premium1.uploadit.org/guess2098/7900/3d03_1.JPG
3dmark05:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/guess2098/7900/3d05.JPG
http://premium1.uploadit.org/guess2098/7900/3d05_1.JPG
3dmark06:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/guess2098/7900/3d06.JPG
http://premium1.uploadit.org/guess2098/7900/3d06_01.JPG
Thats more like it:) ...Nice scores Denny:toast:
Post edited, Guess2098 :) And thx :)
Just that all those links just looked confusing :(
Perkam
pick up from mwave yesterday.... (is that ture? well just be like that...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
no problem... actually i did on purposeQuote:
Originally Posted by perkam
is that a ... single card causing all that damage? Scores look like SLI because the're incredibly high, but doesn't say SLI anywhere.
it is SLi