ofcourse...just wait..prices will be much lower on Monday :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybercat
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ofcourse...just wait..prices will be much lower on Monday :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybercat
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by Cybercat
MWAVE is wrong on the clock speeds. I am certain. ;) The retail box does not have the clock speeds marked on it. But coolbits will show them. One number is higher and one is lower....Quote:
Originally Posted by dnavarro
BTW You buy these I hope you have a big PSU....in my test rig 256MB 7800 GTX SLI ran fine. With these...very unstable. My guess is a 550 Watt would be marginal. 600+ should be a must with multiple HD and lots of RAM.
The XFX card should MSRP atleast 100 buck less.
I am guessing 580/1730??? :D As the bios heh
Wow, it seems rumors were true, after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by dnavarro
This will be a very powerfull card :clap:
wtf? you have them?! :slobber: :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dnavarro
Also they fit the DFI SLI-DR. Heat on the first card could be and issue...the spacing is very tight. Our systems are watercooled so it is not an issue.
Welcome to last MONTH. I had a thread on this showing that the Quadro FX 4500 coolers on 7800GT/GTX cards was completely possible and VERY good at cooling with the DFI NF4 SLI-D(R) MB...Quote:
Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
Sorry did not know it was covered already...I will shut up now.Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
my guess is OCing on these will not be very good as they are already pushed to their veritable limit... watercooling will like add more stability for long gaming sessions and keep the cards from overheating each other... but it will be ineteresting to see what kind of numbers come in... especially for the 1.1ns memory...
To say they're already at their limit is a joke...
You figure it this way, 5 months of release of the 7800gtx, about 8 - 10 months of producing G70 chips.. They could have been speedbinning them all this time and the high-hitting chips being set aside.
There's a very good chance 600mhz will be capable on stock heatsink....
OK, how bout a lesson in manners gentlemen:
A.Yes he does, as many of the members here, AACDirect has access to these things beforehand, afaik he's a reviewer, a little respect wouldn't hurt.Quote:
wtf? you have them?!
B.FCG, you know better than to be a wiseguy like that. You could've said "Here's a thread showing Quadro FX 4500 coolers on 7800..." again, this isnt a thughouse, and the "welcome to last month" wasnt' necessary as AACDirect wasn't posting something old that could've been considered news.Quote:
Welcome to last MONTH. I had a thread on this showing that the Quadro FX 4500 coolers on 7800GT/GTX cards was completely possible and VERY good at cooling with the DFI NF4 SLI-D(R) MB...
:shakes:
Perkam
Personally, I think it's kind of ignorant to act this way towards people who go out of their way to bring us info on things early. Thanks for the Info AAC, no need to be quiet, some people are apparently just mad that they couldn't be first.
there's really nothing he's told us so far that we didn't already know, not that his intentions are wrong. He's limited in what he can say from the NDA.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
It's only five more days folks before we know more than we need to about this card. Just hang tight. I'm confident much of the hype will be confirmed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
Unbelievable that people would act like this toward someone who is being so nice towards them.
I rather wait til the 14th and get it for 650 or even 700
ATI's AIB partners will be ramping up clock speeds with cooler designs of their own by Dec/Jan...so this could get interesting.
Perkam
Where'd you read that perkam...link?
There's not many ATi companies who sell pre-overclocked cards besides HIS, and even they don't clock em up very far at all.
Also, if they wait until january, I'm sorry to say this, but it will be too little too late. It'll be in R580/Gx0 land...
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...t=59593&page=5
them pics real?
i copyd them incase they r removed so if anyone needs em late on :)
that store must not b the brightest selling em before launch
http://img120.imagevenue.com/loc24/t...0gtx5120lm.jpghttp://img19.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_112_box17te.jpghttp://img108.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_437_box20wy.jpghttp://img22.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_ede_bundle1ky.jpg
http://img120.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_f1f_card16rh.jpg
http://img103.imagevenue.com/loc298/th_77f_card23hv.jpg
They're real... MWave is in DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP ****!
Just thought I'd point out...Nowhere on that box does it say limited edition...
nor is it written here but it's still supposed to be part of the 'XXX' edition.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/11..._msrp_already/
What I mean is, Faud claimed all 512mb GTX's were limited edition...
Limited editions card would say it on the box, right?
Do you see it anywhere on that box?
Sorry a little ot :) ..7800GTXs-256 start to pop up @ F/S section ;)
Now you're exaggerating what he said. He said there would be limited quanitity. He didn't say they would officially be dubbed "Limited Edition" cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
And like I was trying to say before, the XFX 6800GS is limited edition and it doesn't say it on the box, so some vendors don't print it.
I love this forum. Thanks for understanding that I can't say more. Unlike Mwave I value my relationship with my suppliers.
I can't post pics but that card and box sure do look like something I have seen recently. ;)
God I wish I could post benchmarks.....my best SLI 3dmark05 bench with 256MB 7800s was 13800 (520/1350...gaming stable)....these cards beat that with no OC. Monday should be interesting for NV fans. You guys are going to love them. BTW wait till Monday to buy as that price is crazy....they are expensive but not supposed to be THAT $$.
BTW With the drivers from the CD the cards ran slower than the above score. There was a glich with the memory clocks. (It was setting them to 1200 for some reason) NV sent me a new driver that fixed it. My guess is that they will release it on Monday.
On the ATI side....I hope to have something to post about soon. I have to double check but I believe there is no NDA on it either.
EDIT: The 512MB cards are very limited production. That much I can say for sure. I was told hundreds available instead of thousands. They expect to have enough for demand but don't expect high demend due to cost.
AAC, perhaps you may answer one small tiny question of mine then.. What's the powersupply requirements of the card?
Considering I'm on an Antec Truepower 430Watt, I know I'll have to buy a new one, and therefore I kind of need to know what I'll need to get by.
I'm sure NDA doesn't hold you from that info.
I seem to remember the box says 550 WATT. (It is at work and I am at home.) I was running a 480 Watt with two 256MB cards with no issues. Having trouble in the same system with the 512MB cards. I have a 620 Watt being overnighted to confirm that the issue is related to the PSU. (I am almost 100% sure the 480 just can't keep up.) So all I can say is buy big these suckers like the juice.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
get a pcp&c 510 sli and ull be fine .. or even an ocz 520watt or wutever it is
Interesting, news minus NDA. Faster XT card perhaps, or something about Master cards ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
maybe an announcement of the x1800xt pe or whatever .. prolly about the master cards though
Not about a new card.....Crossfire is just getting close. I hope to have a new toy any day. (Like I said I don't believe there is NDA on it anymore so I can post pics and benches but I will have to make sure first.) Now that NV has shown what they have I am very interested to see how X1800 CF compares. CF seems more to show better gains than SLI. At least X850 did. If that holds true then X1800 CF should be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by jetjaguar
BTW The guy on NVnews is having the same issue with his 512MB 7800 that I did. Except I doubt NV will send him a driver.....but you never know.
PCP&C 510 is a bit too rich for my blood... I know the need for a good psu, but $200 for a psu is just a bit on the high side. I can afford it, I just feel that's *too much*.Quote:
Originally Posted by jetjaguar
If an OCZ 520 Watt powerstream will handle the job though, then I'll just order one of those. $181 for the 600 watt just doesn't seem worth it for a 80watt difference, compared to $104 I can get the 520watt for.
Either way, thanks for answering my question AAC, it's greatly appreciated.
For SLI...520 might not cut it.....these things draw major power. For single card it should be OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
I won't be running SLi... I'm not spending $1300 on videocards, I have bills to pay and a woman who'd cut my balls off and go play golf with them. I feel SLi is a waste anyway, If I pay double the money, I was double the performance, and not a percent less.
1 is my limit, since I have to buy a new mobo and the card and the psu.
you mean 7800gtx 512 meg in SLI right? single beating dual 256 meg would be.....Quote:
Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
offcourse he is reffering to SLI:)
else it would be an amazing speedbump
$799
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec....iteria=3000415
Um, I just lost interest in the 512MB 7800GTX :(
Go a page back and see where we all say wait till monday....do you honestly think they are going to sell it for that price? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheik
They are gonna try. I don't think your gonna see the price drop Monday your predicting, at least not yet.
AACDirect thanks alot for sharing some info!
Now im waiting for those pics from the toy from ATi, RD580 or CF card or whatever it is.
what u guys think will nvidia do with mwave?
wow that baby are great, after sampsa say that he is better than the x1800xt
i will change my mind, the 512 7800 will be my next card - and not the ati.
isnt the 90nm next nvidia card like coming in january ?
if so ... thinking of just getting another bfg 256 one and run sli until the next gen comes out
Geforce 7800 GTX 512 MT performance theory:
http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools
Yeah saw it too a while ago...nice guesswork, but I'd rather wait a couple more days and see real life result :p: :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
I dont think the 550/1700 will take it over 10K in 3Dmark.
I'd say 9700 is more like it at stock with a normal CPU...FX-57 at 3Ghz +....i'd say it will pass 10k.... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
It will definitely pass 10K with a decent CPU.
Q1 there will be something from NVidia...quote me on this later.Quote:
Originally Posted by jetjaguar
In fact, it seems you only need 551/1656 to pass 10K :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1420136
@Diltech
so this 512GTX is only here to mess with ATI and trying to keep sales away from X1800XT and to cover a lil of the Christmas market?
and the real new high-end bit is Q1?
Something along those lines starscream.
This card is just to cover until Q1. I'm guessing that's why it's meant to be a limited edition card, as come Q1 no one will want them anyway, and with the cost of that ram, and the extensive testing it'd require to find cores that'll run that high, it's GOT to be an expensive card to make. It's basically just a tide over, and a dead stop to the X1800XT bencher sales, as why buy one XT when you can buy 2 512mb GTX's and take down the orb with ease?
The fact that they're limited cards will give them quite a resale value on ebay though.
with a 3ghz Athlon 64 too :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Piotrsama
so digitech .. its better to just get a second 256gtx for cheap used .. and wait till the next gen .. instead of selling the gtx and getting a 512 ?
cuz 2 in sli will beat the 512 .. cuz im in the boat now .. do i buy a 2nd 256 gtx used or sell the gtx i have now and buy a single 512 .. and thats it
2 7800gtx 256's will outperform 1 512mb 7800gtx. So if quake 4 in ultra quality isn't your prime concern you should just pick up the second 7800gtx 256 and wait til q1 for a big gun.
Atleast that's what I'd do.
Sometime in 2006 there will be something from somebody about something to do with computers. Quote me on this later.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
LOL
Your comment was the most benign statement I have ever seen. Yes, I bet you are right...there will be something from NVidia then....lol.
-FCG
ur last few posts said it all for me.
the last few months i had my own pothead ideas and seeing how the 512GTX is limited maybe they r true.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
umm sli'd 256 gtxs will easily run q4 with ultra everything and 4xaa/16x anti
cuz my single runs 1920x1200 with everything on ultra with 4x/16x and i average like 40fps :stick:
It's the dips that's the problem, when entering new rooms as the swapping takes place of textures from ram/harddrive to videoram.
Of course, you have 2 gigs of ram, so the dip shouldn't be nearly as bad for you.
i guess .. so a second gtx should easily handle that .. plus most of the games at that res until the next gen comes out
Yeah, you're honestly better off with a second 256mb gtx, it'll be cheaper and better performance for you, especially at your max resolution...
Nice rig btw!
Well, it's 100MHz more on the memory supposedly, and I'm not so sure. While I'm not expecting 10.5k in 3DMark05 like that article suggested, I predict somewhere around 10.3k.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
as much as i love the new coolers on the 512gtx .. i guess ill get another 256gtx since there will be a bunch for sale .. change coolers on them .. and be happy until the next gen is out
thanks about my rig :)
well newegg just had some XFX in stock for 699 .. sold out already and now not on their website
say what?! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by jetjaguar
yeah, i see nothing suggesting that the Egg had them...maybe they were placing the sale item on the site and then disabled it right away getting ready for Monday...
that's what I bet happened...
ouch 699 on newegg :(
I need this to drop to around $530 before the 29th of November
Oh well, $170 to stepup to the 512GTX is too much i gues ill just keep my 256 GTX if i have to, then sell it in spring/summer to buy a G80
damn i cant decide what to do .. sell my gtx and buy one of these or just buy another used bfg 7800gtx ..
i have a buyer for my current card .. im so damn confused
Quote:
Originally Posted by jetjaguar
If you can't get 2 GTX 512 cards, then I would get another GTX 256 and run them in SLI. That will beat a single 512 easy.
Remember, this GTX 512 is just a refresh. A mid cycle offering. Unless you can afford another upgrade in Feb 06, don't blow your load here.
My 2 cents:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdzcpa
Ditto. Wise words.
yeah i was like im skipping this and picking up another 256 gtx .. that should definitely hold me over until the next gen .. then i see the 512mb with that monster cooler and im like I WANT IT ..
LOL...I know what you mean. I ALWAYS want the latest and greatest hardware. I practically obsess over it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jetjaguar
But, unless you have super deep pockets, its just not the wise thing to due. New hardware obsoletes quickly. The smart folks time their purchases to ride the longest waves.
WTF? Is this cost-effective-smart-shoppersystems.org?
Say what you want, but this board is for XTREME systems. You have to pay to play.
No $hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
However, this guy is asking for advice, and he just received it. Not everyone can afford the balls to wall mentality. It takes a little self discipline and maturity to do the right thing in the face of temptation. In the long run, those a a budget make out better.
Spending more than one can afford to isn't extreme. :rolleyes:
I won't support any nuckle head move to buy 2 video cards...thats just dumb and goes to show you how idiotic this is getting and the blame falls squarly on Nvidia...dumb asses.
The CEO of nVidia drives his Ferrari to work. What do you drive? Who's the dumbass now? Hmmm...Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
Anyone who support the dumb ass for buying two nvidia cards...do you own a ferrari?Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
right so whats the estimated MSRP of this beast?
cause i just realized, no matter how cheap i can get this thru e-tailers, if the MSRP stays the same, thats what matters on evga stepup.
What if I do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
This is the cost for those peeps who called themselves xtreme....oops X2 for sli ;) ...
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/5...shot0063dv.jpg
and get this..
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/991...shot0045ae.jpg
And then what?
Or you can get 2X 7800GTX-256 + a couple of gpu water blocks....
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/8...shot0074ll.jpg
+ these things...then you're probly 2x xtreme :D
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/1927/mvc199f7wg.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1502/stockkkkk8oj.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Uberhunter
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...=59593&page=32Quote:
Originally Posted by Uberhunter
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a92.../10186in05.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by nunyabiz
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...=59593&page=31
Didn't even hit 10k? Oh well, that's just the CPU bottleneck I guess. Too bad 3DMark05 sucks in that regard.
Thanks for the post btw!
http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/7894/10k5lv.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Uberhunter
His card is EXTREMELY CPU bottlenecked. Before he was apparently running 235x9 (2.1GHz) and then he went back to 10 multi and ran at 2.4GHz and got well over 10k. Yes the card is a bit overclocked, but that's the best he's posted so far. I can imagine an FX-57 could get 10.3k easy, stock clockspeeds.
No one would care.Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
Would it be possible to keep this thread on topic so I don't have to waste my time reading about things other than this card?
"XFX 7800 GTX 512 MB scores leaked"
http://theinquirer.net/?article=27624
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and at the bottom, they linked to us. How thoughtful! :p:
Did i do that ?! ;)
I don't know, did you?
Can't believe they link to XS and not too nVNews....pwah, I like that they link to XS, but credit goes to nVnews...
I think Fuad is one of the few people that would benefit from MS Word's grammar check.
And of course he needs a spell check.....
So who wants to tell him to link to nVnews?
If he did read the thread he should have seen that i came from nvnews.
Did you expect him to read the thread....?
He's a reporter, the news is what he wants it to be with little to no fact checking.
Add to that he specializes in gossip and you get a doozy of in terms of accuracy.
Lets see if it gets changed..
(Omg site is getting slow)
Cool, and yea the site is uber slow sometimes....(XS forums that is)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim
not to be OT but XS is one of the fastest forums i post on, ive left several other forums because i cant stand the wait.
The other great thing about XS forums are the people. Overall almost all are cool. In some forums you post anything (Especially OT) and be prepared to be flamed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
SO DON'T POST OFF TOPIC YOU @#$@#% #%$#$ @#@... HAHA :banana: just kidding. (As I post off topic....AACDIRECT you stupid !@#@! stay on topic.)
Long threads goes off topic sometimes..when there is no news =)
I like to think that we're the nerds who haven't lost touch with humanity. :p:
OK
it *looks* (and pls correct me if im wrong) like the X1800XT was released at $550 MSRP for the 512mb version
so wouldnt it make since for nvidia to set the MSRP for the GTX 512 a little lower?
I think it was 599$ us MSRP for the 1800xt.
Well the gfx 512mb is really an ultra....without the name...don't you think so?