That's awesome Macci! Can you give it more volts on that cooling or not?
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That's awesome Macci! Can you give it more volts on that cooling or not?
nice what a hack job on that heatsink :D 3010mhz at 1.872v vcore ?? or cpuz reading wrong vcore for that board ??
CPUZ needs glasses. :D
Macci, what's the distance between the holes?
A 6800/7800 mounting kit works for existing waterblocks....so whatever that distance is :D
Wow!!! :slobber: Near the 40K in '01 and near 11K '05 Air cooled :eek: :clap:
Incredible 463FPS in Nature with single card...with my 7800GTX i'm only at 282 :(
By far it isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
What the highest anyone reached except SLI ? (Aircooling)
What are temps on GPU ?
(Is that avril in bg?)
Just sick numbers congrats Macci i really want one of those cards for benching , now go ice for the real numbers ;)
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what are you especting for ice cold ?
In 2k5, it is ~11900 points with a mind whopping 800 mhz core on the 7800GTX.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
Very nice scores macci, nice monitor too ;)
Must be very cool to adjust voltages without needing to do mods. Too bad it sounds like that will be for insiders only.
That will be solved i guess, i just hope it does not get locked in coming cards.
INQ talks about cards that was at Ibiza had a bug that would limit their overclocking and supposed to be fixed on cards that gets to stores.
You have any idea if the card you have has this bug ? (If its true)
Macci, under LN2 what could we expect from these cards?
1000mhz+ GPU clocks?
Mickey, wait for "final" results from Macci :)
Don't you want to see the score with 240+ MHz UTT, high HTT, highly clocked CPU ? :D
hey Mickey, how can you oc the card?
More great news! I wont have to change my mounting for gpu containers.Quote:
Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
Jason, 215 was only cos I was running the CPU at default multi and just gave it some speed it would run stable (Vcore is 1.54 not 1.87 shown in the pics..). Also FSB makes next to no difference in Mark05 so why bother =) Once I have the time I will push things as far as they go. But yea 215 doesn't look that cool. :D
I have had this board and RAM at 270 2-2-2-5 5X HTT..
Using Mark2001 for card comparisons is maybe not the best idea. Basically only Nature is affected by the increased video speed. All the other tests are pretty much equal to X800XT scores. And that 38k+ run is far from good, basically just showing the Nature speed, no ACPI tweaks, no FSB, no system powah! =)
I'm thinking 11k+ 05 and 40k+ aircooled is not a problem.
:eek:
It's been a while since someone posted a screenie so soon after Macci's, MickeyMouse...I see some healthy competition is brewing :D
Perkam
Competition!! hUm!! I Like gonna make popcorn also :D keep them comin!! :toast:
I think 463Fps in Nature with single card it's impressive!!! :slobber:
There are NO BUGS. It was a programming issue with the overclocking tool...let's be clear and not start more false information. I've seen cards run 950+ MHz, so there is NO BUG.
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Originally Posted by Ubermann
Thx for clearing up that none of these cards have any bugs Gray :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
I was hoping Macci would go a few rounds with an XL...seeing as how that's the one ppl are going to be buying in the next few days/weeks.
Perkam
How many time for see the x1800xt in Europe?(Italy) :D
I want one of these!!!
Again let's clear up the misconceptions and false data.
Never has our chipset had a problem overclocking the HT bus. On the contrary, others ;) have problems even running 1GHz. We have many times demonstrated that over 1 GHz operation is easy. Macci, Fugger, Bigtoe and others will attest to that.
As for Texas, the problem there was the DDR interface. This was on Bullhead, our OEM reference board that was never designed for overclocking, and despite that ran extremely well except under phase. Texas was the first time that our boards were put under phase so it was a learning experience. We've since figured it all out and have demonstrated that Grouper and Halibut are both very phase friendly.
And as Macci will point out, he's running 270 2-2-2-5 at x5 HT multi. That's got to tell you something.
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Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
On 2k1 I bet the X1800XT could do about 41000 - 42000 air cooled......... ;)
Grayskull... if someone other than working for the industry had a board, and some results, we wouldn't be having this conversation, and you wouldn't be making these posts. The sources you mention are biased, IMHO, as they all get engineering samples from you ATI folk. We all know Macci gets good hardware from you guys too, even though he works/is affiliated with 3dmark. Just because Jason is here pumping nVidia just shows how scared nvidia is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
Is this why the Bullhead is not shown anymore, or is the bullhead the normal crossfire layout? That's some great info. Basically what you are saying is that the halibut and grouper are seriously tweaked versions of the bullhead, which was a decent performer in it's own right. That's VERY good to hear, but we all would really like to see these boards for ourselves. :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
Sometimes I really don't know why I try ... seems like some people just have an anti-ATI slant and it's always the same people, but for everyone else out there who are little more open minded...
Bullhead was never designed for overclocking in mind. I will tell you that with 100% certainty because our team designed it. So for the doubters, why not ask Wesley Fink at Anandtech and/or Tony Leach at OCZ. Both saw the first incarnation of Bullhead and can attest to the fact it had no overclocking features at all.
A second revision of Bullhead was produced with only minor mods, Vdimm to 2.8V, CPU Vcore to 1.6V and that's it. Nothing else, all other voltages were fixed. CPU and memory power delivery were not designed for overclocking neither. Even with these limitations the board did pretty good. This is what Anandtech reported.
Grouper and Halibut were designed ground up with overclocking in mind with too many changes to list. It's overclockability speaks for itself. As for bios, if you would compare the Bullhead bios and the Grouper/Halibut bios you would quickly realize that they don't even compare. Again, for all the doubters, why not ask any reviewer that still has a Bullhead and just got a Halibut for the Crossfire launch? Don't let me tell you, let them.
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Originally Posted by HaLDoL
Yes I realize that when these chipsets make it to market everyone will have a go at it themselves and that will remove all doubt.
As for Bullhead not being shown anymore, Bullhead served it's purpose very, very well and has been retired. It helped us gain the lion share of all the AMD IGP business and we've since moved on to new chipsets and new boards.
Last, the Grouper / Halibut designs are not tweaked Bullheads. They are a totally new design and layout. You will get to play with these boards literally and not so literally. Literally because some vendors are bringing the board to market directly. I would keep my eye on the DFI version. Not so literally because others have taken the best of Grouper/Halibut and grafted it into their own designs.
As for the green guys, if I had to lay down a wager, I'd say they're more than a little concerned.
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Originally Posted by cadaveca
Good info. As always.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
:toast:
I have used both boards. They are night and day compared to each other. The Grouper board I used seemed like a reference board. It ran good but was not very polished. (Heck the board I received had hand done voltmods and rework wires running down the back of it.) It seemed like an engineering sample. Even saying that with a little tweaking it ran very stable and fast. (It made me excited to see what was coming in the form of production product.)
The Halibut on the other had seems like a production board. If board makers copy this board exactly as it sits it will be a fantastic motherboard. It has not fought me on any setup I have tested with it. The only thing that gives any hint that it is not a full retail product is the lack of the 16x to 8x/8x in bios instead it uses a terminator. Even the bios is far more full featured. Silly things like hardware monitoring was not in Grouper it is in Halibut. The Halibut seems to not lack anything.
Kyle, you got one of the first batch of Groupers, that's why it was a little rough. ;)
As for the 1x16 to 2x8 switching, it is now fully automatic, no need for any cmos intervention. The terminator card design was done purposely. It's cheap, has the least disruption to onboard routing and is very user friendly. Even if the terminator card is omitted, the board will still boot up and function perfectly fine on one card, but it will just run on 8 lanes instead of 16 lanes. Even uneducated consumers won't have a problem.
The use of electronic switching although convenient, is quite expensive and reduces margin on the bus. Paddle boards also reduce margin, but not as much as the electronic switches. Paddle boards also occupy valuable motherboard real estate unnecessarily.
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Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
First batch or not it still ran good. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
The terminator does work fine. It just happens to be one of the few things that I know most retail boards will not have that the reference do. Really hard to find faults in the motherboard so the terminator is just one of the few things I can mention that I had heard was not making it to retail. (BTW the solder pads between the 16X slots are they for the electronic lane switching?)
By expensive do you mean cost? Could you explain what you mean by margin on the bus? Just curious.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
Also what is the difference between the boards that have different color silk screening. Anything? Mine has White silkscreening with all red connectors and red NB heatsink. I assume there is no difference just different runs but again was curious if there was anything else.
By expensive I do mean cost. The electronic switches are expensive compared to a terminator card.
By reduced margin, I mean that the current electronic switches out there are passive, not active devices. This means that any signal that passes through them will have some attenuation and that always reduces margin on the interface.
All dual slot reference boards from ATI are black (Halibut). All single slot boards (Grouper) are white. Connector and heatsink colors have varied over the lifetime of the boards.
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Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
Thanks for the information. Mine is the most beautiful one..... :D MY PRECIOUS.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
On the terminator. Just to make sure I am understanding correctly. The terminator produces less single loss Vs a Electronic switch. So for overclocking/performance the terminator could be consider the best solution? If so is anyone you know planning on offering a board that has the terminator?
Also what does the four LEDs above the CPU socket show? I assume they are not there just to be pretty....AKA Fatal1ty mobos. On mine only two are lit during normal use. (BTW the LED's for SATA and PATA are a nice touch too.)
Again thanks for the info. Very interesting to learn why certain things are done at the design level.
DFI is the only vendor that I am aware of that is using the terminator scheme on the CF-BT board. Others may as well, but I'm not aware of it.
There's actually 5 LEDs... or there should be 5 :D They represent the VID code of the cpu power delivery system. These probably won't make it into production as they are not really needed. But I guess we'll just have to see.
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Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
LOL If I could count :am: ..... so what does off,off,on,on,off mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
Guess we got a little off topic on this post..... For those waiting on the DFI CF-BT there was some info that I had not personally heard yet. Again thanks for the info Grayskull.
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Originally Posted by Grayskull
I'll never understand why people will take a ferrari engine and put it into a Pinto. :stick:
The industry is in a sad state of affairs. :fact:
Can you explain what you're saying, cadaveca? Isn't the upcoming CF-BT DFI's top of the line ATi board?
EDIT.....got it ;)
edited for clarity, ok?
I just got off the phone with DFI about the Crossfire boards. (I was told I could pass on the info so here it is.) Both boards would be consider a premium part. It sounds like the CF-BT will be a little cheaper than the CF-DR. The CF-BT is a four layer design while the CF-DR is a six layer adding to the cost. The CF-BT will not be blue as they could not get it to look just right. It will be black like the CF-DR. We should see CF-DR boards very very soon. The CF-BT are still a few weeks out.
It sounds like they spared no expense on both boards. It should be interesting to see which one turns out to be the best. From what I have heard both should be great boards.
BTW In case anyone care X850 Crossfire videocards are available.
So CF-BT Vs CF-DR...FIGHT :lsfight:
Why would they release both if they're both premium boards? Any other differences that they alluded to?
Price. Although i think if BigToe had something to do with the BT, it may be more ram friendly.
I think price is part of it. Overall the features seem very much the same (I have not received a final spec on both). BT does = BigToeQuote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
As I said it will be interesting to see which is better. Sounds like we will know soon. ;)
DFI did say that they have been working hard on ram compatibility. One interesting tidbit was that the CF-DR will run 4 modules at 400+ Mhz 1T with no issues. I was told they also worked hard on high density memory compatiblity. (AKA 1+ GIG modules)
Looks like the CF-DR is in my future....I run 4 sticks of memory. ;)
what about Expert board......man it would be really nice to be able to run some big ass capacity RAM in there at 1T.......4GB RAM at 1T at DDR400 or more :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
We talked mainly about crossfire but the Expert board is supposed to be improved in this department too. I did not ask specificly but he did say it was "much" improved over the current SLI-DR boards. (Kind of scary that they could make such a good board better.) The Expert is to use an electronic switch for SLI, more space between 16X slots, better high VRAM support, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
i wonder what he means aside from the aforementioned features...........i've got one on order but if the CF is better in that department (4xsticks of RAM at 1T DDR400) than i'd have to look at CF as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
lots of good information here! thanks gray :)
is there a possible ETA for these motherboards?
You talked with Jacky?Quote:
Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
Yep. He is nice guy. Not every day that the GM of a company is as excited about the product they sell. (Most care about selling product not the product itself.) I had always talked with Vivian before she left but now have talked with him a few times. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by JuanFlaiter
The ETA given to me on the CF-DR is the next week or so. You could say any day now.
The CF-BT was OCT....could be NOV.
I can't remember on the NF4 Expert board....sorry.
What is the difference between CF-DR and CF-BT? :)
i don't think 4x DDR400 1T is possible...Quote:
Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
IIRC tony said the DFI and ATI crossfire boards are meant to be tweaked enough that 4x DDR400 or any ram ran in 2T would not loose much performance compared to 1T like existing boards = the performance gap between 1T vs 2T is alot smaller :)
Anyone have any idea what the stock clocks are on this card? Neither ATI online nor Allstarshop bother to mention this. If they are clocked like XL or even XT I won't bother.Quote:
Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
They are clocked like XT's...but I would still say they're worth bothering over...just considering how some XT's tend to clock...If you've got the option to, I'd bother. ;)
The X850 Crossfire card is clocked at X850 XT speeds. I have a production one. (Not a non-Qual) I ran it with a X850 XT PE. In Rivatuner the cards show up seperately at their respective clocks. (520,540 and 540,590) The interesting thing was I could OC the cards individually. My X850 CF card I raised the core/mem and scores increased. If you can OC the cards to their optimal speeds indivially that would be a major advantage over SLI. <----it seems you can :DQuote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
I really need to play with it more but have been distracted by the X1800 XT card..... (One thing I want to do is use rivatuner to data log the clocks of my XT PE card to see if it declocks to the CF cards speeds when in 3d mode. So far it seems like it does not but I want to confirm it.)
Hey Jason,
He's still working on it ?? :confused:Quote:
Wheres Macci's 270mhz fsb runs?
Still a Mystery officially anyway. Current rumours put the blame on old bad yielding core (XL) vs new good yields core (XT).Quote:
If all thats different on the XL vs XT is the 1.4ns ddr vs the 1.2ns and cooler/clocks and the cards can run so high without being a cherry picked cores why is there no XT's on the market yet just XL's?
Google "dfi cf-dr" and you'll find a few sites giving pre-orders...even though they were originally set for release in July/August.Quote:
I see Crossfire x850's, but where are the crossfire mobo's?
Lestat already previewed the cf-dr...here. Also, when's eta on your XL ? :D Answer to other questions below :)
Perkam
Don't know the reason for that. Imho it was because CPU under dry ice. I even tried with two different PSUs and I just couldn't get it boot. With our custom made 1320W PSU the red lights on mobo were on but the power button didn't react at all. With Antec 550W and Tagan 480W I got the board running but it sure ran really strange.. beeper was making low noise, CPU and PSU fans spinned strange, they kinda couldn't... I really couldn't tell what was wrong.. maybe some water around the socket, which I really doubt because we insulated everything just like before and after I changed to DFI's nF4-SLI-DR we had system running just fine next 5 hours. I fired up the Sapphire's Crossfire board next day and it worked just fine..Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
The strange thing is that we used same board (not the one I have in my lab) in Ibiza under LN2 without any problems. It had a different bios.
I'll try Sapphire PURE CrossFire motherboard next week again with LN2.
ATI does not plan on 1t 4 banks DDR400+. DFI does (At least that was what I was told.). The 939 controller is limited to DDR400 too but everyone here has accepted that it is can run higher. Before we dismiss the claim how about we wait till the Mobos are in our hands. We all accept the capabilities of the DFI NF4 SLI-DR. Some of the things it can do would be considered "way out of spec". Soon all will be be known.Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
Wow, you use it too...know a number of reviewers who highly recommend it...dont get it, its a run of the mill 480watter :confused:Quote:
Tagan 480W
Perkam
I agree, but pls keep in mind that chill pills cost a dollar at walmart...oh srry, i meant...pls keep in mind that Macci must be busy with loads of testing and benchmarks going through scores of drivers and programs on various different types of cooling for the XT launch :)Quote:
but s*%t come on onkly select clockers have the HW they wait to show it off, then do it right.
Perkam
I dont get why you need macci to do all that :confused: Wouldn't asking grayskull, sampsa or AACDirect nicely do the trick? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
Perkam
Perkam...Do you want to know what I think?Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
I think that the boards themselves are limiting at 215FSB...I think Macci was having problems past 215FSB, not because that's what he "keyed in".
If you look at the Crossfire boards, they've had problems from day 1. I'm sorry, but enough IS enough.
As far as I'm concerned, when I see X1800XT's on store shelves, it won't be a paper launch.
About the X1800XT's...The core is the same for the XL...We know that...The only difference is the memory, and the cooling. Now, take into account that the XL runs EASILY available 1.4ns IC's, that's no problem. I have a feeling that yields are very low on 1.2ns Samsung IC's right now, and ATi is either finally getting shipment, or making another paper launch to shut everyone up.
Someone can come flame me if they like, but I'm sorry, ATi dropped the ball this time around...Does anyone remember the FX5800???
PS Perkam...We don't take chill pills...Red Bull works much better ;)
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Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
Don't shoot the messanger! I just was relaying what was told to me by DFI. I am working on a project using the CF-DR board and felt that the people here would be interested in knowing about features that most would like to have IF they are possible. Do you think he told me the board could do 4 X DDR400 1T just so you could fly off the handle? Damn just wait till the facts are known.
Also how many motherboards have you designed and built? I tend to believe Mr. Wu and DFI have a little more knowlege than you and me combined. If they say it is possible why shouldn't we assume that it can be? I am supposed to have a board next week. I will test to see if the board can do it and planned on posting results. Until then drink a Redbull and chill. (BTW If Greyskull would like to post his opinion.....he WOULD know if it is possible.)
As for Macci. After meeting him. One thing is that he is very meticulous. My guess is that he is concentrating on videocard OC. Once he has that figured out then he will look to the MB. Any way Macci is not a trained monkey to do tricks for our amusement. When it gets done I am sure the results will be worth the wait.
One thing I have liked about the forum is the open minds and lack of "BLA BLA you can't do that....ATI sucks...NV sucks....you suck type of posts."
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Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
if you do turn out to be wrong (how i hope you're not though) i'll take on of those mousepots!
For the record, i think a lot of what you say about people blindly following is true. These XI800 do look great, but until the general public get them, i can't really be that excited.
I remember when 7800gtx was LAUNCHED (and available on the same day) everyone was nuts about them, and a ton of info was known. Even though i didn't have one, it still made my month. These have just gone off with an empty 'poof'. Only macci, sampsa and some others have them, and i guess ATI just announced it now and got a few samples out to keep people entirely going to the green side.
That is not true :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Troman
err yes they did complain, and show me where i can buy an x1800 xt. Not an XL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troman
I was supposed to get my DFI CrossFire board last week but their first shipment has been delayed and is now scheduled to arrive next week. I should be getting one from first shipment so I'll check if it can do 1T with 4 sticks for you :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
what's not true? that there are xl's available? sure they are. That there was no giant ruccus over a lack of x800xtpe's? not really, just the usual general moans... like here and now over the xt...
I think it's true.
http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkeli...00/arch_12.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by don_vercetti
ATI has said that X1800 XT will available for end users on 5th of November. Radeon 1800 XL was launched and said to be available on 5th of october :fact:
fair enough, but it still means another months wait for the ATI high end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sampsa
Like you said Kyle, ATI is not claiming this, DFI is. *BUT* I did try it one day and almost got 4 sticks of 512 MB to pass memtest at 1T 2-2-2-5 on our reference board. I didn't try too hard because that wasn't what I was trying to do but I don't see any restriction in the A64 to prevent this from working.
I *do* know it will take special layout considerations and the right settings. If anyone will figure it out, I'd bet DFI will do it first.
Based on what I've seen with my own eyes I'd say it's entirely possible that DDR400 1T could work with 4 sticks.
But let's just wait and see before anyone starts doubting it.
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Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
Do you know what the exact limitation is? I'm not aware of it if there is one.
One thing that I do know for sure, motherboard design will affect this.
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Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
Alexio, Don Vercetti and Troman: Sampsa should not have to post a slide that was posted on xs a week ago. Pls take your availability issues here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=75945 .
I'm looking forward to the dfi crossfire solution too, but I can buy an sli board NOW for less than $150 :( ... I'm sure the same cannot be said of crossfire, at least in 2005 I'm sure.
Perkam
You claim to know more than two company officials from two top multi-million dollar corporations. Pls show us some proof of your statement for us to believe you.Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
Perkam
I'll ignore the verbage because there's nothing useful there, but the question remains. What is the limitation?
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Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
hmmm dont know but wasnt there a rumor that stated that ati mobos would let amd64 work at really low temps?? maybe they got a way to improove mem performace (i also have heard is the ondie mem controler the limiting factor thats why the went from winchester to venice (e3), maybe e6 can work 4x1t).
wait and see (its been forever...)
If anyone's interested in the official webpage for the DFI CF-DR: http://www.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_pro...D=3669&SITE=US .
Lots of good info there. Was wondering though, if Grayskull could tell us more about the old core vs new core thing for the XL vs XT...considering the Sampsa's looks to be one of those newer cores (200Mhz OC on Air).
Perkam
No mater what, I bet it can run 4 x 256MB SINGLE SIDED modules at 1T BUT not very high...... ;) ....and 4 x 512MB modules at 1T ? and at 200MHz +/- 15MHz with HIGH Vdimm/Vchip.....or something like that..... ;) :)
Why you say so Hipro?
he was being sarcastic, i think everyone saw that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
Mickeymouse -> you shouldnt get so pissed, it IS supposed to be an on-die controller limitation, mobo-independent, but hey, DFI has the best team out there... you never know...
This is my last post on the subject until I have the board. To be exact Ocsar designed this board. (CF-DR) The design was very much thinking outside the box. (Just look at memory slot location....very stange indead.) Also they spared no expense in the components on the board. Many people have asked what the difference between the CF-DR and CF-BT are going to be. One big difference is the design. The CF-BT is the reference ATI board that has been tweaked. (They claim better performance) The CF-DR is a DFI/Wu original design. One big thing about the CF-DR is it is a 6 layer design Vs the CF-BT 4 layer design. I was told that this was done to optimise trace lengths to the memory. The down side was that 6 layer boards are much more expensive than 4 layer ones. With Grayskull saying it is possible it leans me more to believe that the DFI design will be able to do it if any board can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
(One final note the reason the CF-BT is not ready has to do with part sourcing. The reference board was made in Canada...some parts are not available/cost effective overseas so they are having to tweak the design for the parts they can get there.)
All will be known this week......
Now how about the X1800 XT OC......
nice i hope that the 6 layer design for the Expert board will give better RAM results and compatibilityQuote:
Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
I thought the cf-bt (big toe) one was gona have the optimized memory path to help clock the memory better?
LOL!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by GoriLLakoS
i too noticed... the new ATi is awefully big.. :stick: looks even longer than the voodoo5500. Can't they make it smaller??? THis is a high tech world.. c'mon..Quote:
Originally Posted by wfarid
I am still disappointed with Ati. my x800xt clocks 10mhz above default core clk... and this isn't the first... the second and third x800xt/pe card with different manufacturer did 5~ 10mhz core oc. Are the new upcomming card going to oc 5mhz core as well?? hehehehehe... I wouldn't be surprised if it will.
:rolleyes:
Jason,
a run at 270 w/ ATI board, sorry its old run and only 2x256 but that's all I've got. But you wanted to see it =)
As far as the new R520 runs go there will be some once I find a moment to do some testing.
Cold bug issue: in some cases (winnys) its a CPU thing and in some cases it can be fixed w/ mobo settings (FX55, FX57s I've tried).
His Keyboard is not dead. His caps lock was on.... :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
I have done that before.
My card is as crap ass hell. My max = 590-750. @ 1.2 volt.
If i go higher on volts > lockup. And the clocks arnt'y good eighter. 590 core ain't good.
I hope a new bios will help me to get past that 1.2 volt.
at 590/750 is it at least 100% artifact free and stable from crashes or hard locks?