The Official Opteron 939 Overclocking Thread

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10-02-2005, 08:29 AM
xenolith

Nice gundamit. Nice to see your 146 doing better than your 144. But is an additional 100mhz worth an additional $60? Being the anal best-bang-for-buck guy that I am, I broke down what we have so far:

144 3.0ghz o/c / 146 3.1ghz o/c (so far) = 3.3% increase

144 $160 retail / 146 $220 retail = 37.5% price premium

You be the judge. But it's going to take alot more for me to feel bad about choosing the 144. :D
10-02-2005, 08:46 AM
computersmsa

xenolith -> oc = 0.000 %
It's depending of the die (stepping) :toast:
But 146 = 10x max
10-02-2005, 09:02 AM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenolith

Nice gundamit. Nice to see your 146 doing better than your 144. But is an additional 100mhz worth an additional $60? Being the anal best-bang-for-buck guy that I am, I broke down what we have so far:

144 3.0ghz o/c / 146 3.1ghz o/c (so far) = 3.3% increase

144 $160 retail / 146 $220 retail = 37.5% price premium

You be the judge. But it's going to take alot more for me to feel bad about choosing the 144. :D

The last thing anyone should be feeling is "bad" about buying either. Rather thay should be thanking their lucky stars and Vandi for giving us this opportunity to play with the best bang for buck CPU this year. And we did it before what Charlie described as the "unwashed masses" get wind of whats going on. Hopefully Vandi keeps us in mind the next time something like this comes along even though I'm sure it was a big headache and time consuming putting these orders together.

Hmmm ... might not even be 100mhz difference my two CPUs. I do like the 146 because of more chances to hit the sweet spots on memory. But being a cheap bastard I am in awe of the 144!
10-02-2005, 09:30 AM
gundamit

The volts keep streaking up while the clock comes up just a little. Nearly topped out now.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/508...0910div4dq.png

I think I'll get back to my old BH-5 to see if I can get <24:20 in 32M.
10-02-2005, 09:58 AM
dogsx2

gundamit

Nice clocks, what kind of temp do you get under load at the 1.552v?
10-02-2005, 10:08 AM
xenolith

Quote:

Originally Posted by computersmsa

xenolith -> oc = 0.000 %
It's depending of the die (stepping) :toast:
But 146 = 10x max

That's why I was going to get the 146. Having the extra (10x) multi was very attractive. But by what I've seen so far, high HTT doesn't appear to be any problem with the right setup. :toast:
10-02-2005, 10:11 AM
afireinside

Quote:

Originally Posted by gundamit

The last thing anyone should be feeling is "bad" about buying either. Rather thay should be thanking their lucky stars and Vandi for giving us this opportunity to play with the best bang for buck CPU this year. And we did it before what Charlie described as the "unwashed masses" get wind of whats going on. Hopefully Vandi keeps us in mind the next time something like this comes along even though I'm sure it was a big headache and time consuming putting these orders together.

Hmmm ... might not even be 100mhz difference my two CPUs. I do like the 146 because of more chances to hit the sweet spots on memory. But being a cheap bastard I am in awe of the 144!

146 had 10x multi which is much better than 9x. Not so sure about me sweet spots... I need a /13 divider :(

Nice clocks BTW gundamit.
10-02-2005, 10:12 AM
dogsx2

Quote:

Originally Posted by gundamit

The volts keep streaking up while the clock comes up just a little. Nearly topped out now.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/508...0910div4dq.png

I think I'll get back to my old BH-5 to see if I can get <24:20 in 32M.

The ss on link #352 with the 144 at 3078.9 @1.472v with 2gb ram compares great with the 146 at 3140.8@1.552v with 1gb ram.

144 pi32m=24m24.391

146 pi32m=24m32.937
10-02-2005, 10:12 AM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogsx2

Nice clocks, what kind of temp do you get under load at the 1.552v?

I'm still under 50c but that might get better when the block settles.
10-02-2005, 10:17 AM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogsx2

The ss on link #352 with the 144 at 3078.9 @1.472v with 2gb ram compares great with the 146 at 3140.8@1.552v with 1gb ram.

144 pi32m=24m24.391

146 pi32m=24m32.937

Yeah but to be fair to the TCCD they aren't hitting thier sweet spot and I didn't spend time playing with the timing. Love the patriots though ... my memory ... not so much the team.
10-02-2005, 10:24 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogsx2

The ss on link #352 with the 144 at 3078.9 @1.472v with 2gb ram compares great with the 146 at 3140.8@1.552v with 1gb ram.

144 pi32m=24m24.391

146 pi32m=24m32.937

still seems a tad low to me

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...rpi-32m_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...2m_3096_tn.jpg
10-02-2005, 10:26 AM
bachus_anonym

@gundamit,

I don't want to be negative... But either you must have had CPU-Z and ITE SG both open during that run above or I don't know what else. But 24:32 is really bad for 3140Mhz an 1GB RAM, even at 7-3-4-2.5-1T... :shrug:

EDIT: I would change that RAM to BH-5 for further testing, you know. Those times can make people suspicious, especially when looking at such high clocks on air/water. I just noticed that you have Dynamic Idle Cycle Counter on Disabled... That will kill 32M more than TRC=12, :hehe:
10-02-2005, 10:27 AM
dogsx2

[QUOTE=eva2000]still seems a tad low to me

LOL, I'm comparing him to himself. You are one of the all time greats with memory. I'm sure you could take a $150 set of 2gb ram and beat a $300 set.
10-02-2005, 10:34 AM
eva2000

gundamit needs to tighten Idle Cyle to 16clks and enable Dynamic counter and see what happens i guess

this is 12x245mhz 2.5-3-2-5 with 2x1GB Patriot PC3200LLK

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...3_image001.gif

can't wait to get my opteron 144 and 146s to put some ram through their paces as well :)
10-02-2005, 10:39 AM
bachus_anonym

@eva2000,

yeah, I edited my above post before I saw yours... I just get suspicious when I see such bad times at very high clocks :p: :lol:
10-02-2005, 03:55 PM
...:::MadDog:::

Very powerfull your memos, god luck whit the 315 @ 3-3-3-5-7-14-1t (more volts ?)

When do you put your opty in subzero temps ?

hug'zz
10-02-2005, 03:56 PM
dinos22

that's great MM....are you able to do any SPI with 310MHz
10-02-2005, 04:02 PM
gundamit

Gee guys. Here I was all set to go to my Mushkin BH-5 and suddenly I get tips on tightening my timing on the TCCD. I did mention I didn't do anything with the timings right? In any case I appreciate the input and give it a try and will report back in.
10-02-2005, 04:16 PM
dogsx2

WOW :woot:
10-02-2005, 04:21 PM
4rory

I always did love quality silicone.
10-02-2005, 04:26 PM
Vapor

*cough*silicon*cough*
10-02-2005, 04:36 PM
ozzimark

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor

*cough*silicon*cough*

no, you mean boobies! :toast:

MM, 315mhz would be amazing. get to work :banana:
10-02-2005, 04:51 PM
Sephir0th

gundamit which bios are you using? I heard you have to use 704-BT(A) to get TCCD working, is this correct?
10-02-2005, 05:30 PM
dinos22

time to drop the multiplier
10-02-2005, 06:00 PM
gundamit

Per your suggestions I've changed the timings and dropped some time from the 32M run at 3.14ghz. Thanks.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9...tighter0jq.png
10-02-2005, 06:04 PM
dinos22

so you can't run those sticks at 2.5-3-3-6 1T or......

that OC (3140MHz) with really optimised settings should land you low to mid 23m times
10-02-2005, 06:27 PM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

so you can't run those sticks at 2.5-3-3-6 1T or......

I lose TRCD 3 somewhere in the 270s. This is not super TCCD, its merely good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephir0th

gundamit which bios are you using?

Its one of the 702s, can't remember which. Lol.
10-02-2005, 06:29 PM
Vapor

Hmmm, I'm using 704-2BTA (supposedly doesn't have the TCCD problem, w/e), oh how I want to retry my luck with my 146 but I really need to do work :(
10-02-2005, 06:57 PM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickeyMouse

Gun> I might catch ya TCCD with 2gig's :)

I'm anxious to get may Patriots back in there but I need to figure out whats up with my TCCD first.

You've already posted a sub 24 minute 32m run. :slobber: Makes me want those Crucials so bad!
10-02-2005, 06:59 PM
Vapor

MM, can you give us a Tweaker shot? :D

I think my Ballistix aren't as bad as I once thought.
10-02-2005, 07:15 PM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickeyMouse

check the timings out on the SS i jsut posted tho ;) LowLatency at ddr500

That is just sick. Didn't know Crucial could do that as well.
10-02-2005, 07:47 PM
Ugly n Grey

Great thread you guys, almost 12,000 views on this thread alone at the time of this post. I can see these easily being the chip of coice for AMD guys on the board here.

While I rarely take the opportunity, I'm going to say "I told you so" to the guys who claimed I was off my rocker when I stated the AMD and IBM sales droids assured me Opty's were tested and binned differently. I see you here in this thread jumping on the bandwagon :D

I feel so vindicated I could weep....but I'd rather have a couple new optys and a hot nurse to make up for it.

Great stuff, I'm going to try the dualies as soon as I can get my hands on a released one.
10-02-2005, 07:52 PM
jahjahbinks

You are the one who ordered dual core Opteron?
10-02-2005, 07:55 PM
Ugly n Grey

I already have dual core Opty's but they are all 940 pin chips, I mean I want the 939's
10-02-2005, 07:59 PM
jahjahbinks

Oh, because I read in a post a couple of days ago that someone ordered a 939 pin dual core opteron, so unless I read it wrong, it's 939 not 940.
10-02-2005, 08:42 PM
dinos22

165/170/175/180 are all Socket939 Dual Cores
10-02-2005, 08:51 PM
Vapor

I didn't know there was a 180 available yet?
10-02-2005, 08:54 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor

I didn't know there was a 180 available yet?

announced yes.....available NOT sure

one of our retailers has 3x175 CPUs left in stock...damn i wish i was a loaded damn it
10-02-2005, 09:30 PM
mongoled

Quote:

Originally Posted by gundamit

Per your suggestions I've changed the timings and dropped some time from the 32M run at 3.14ghz. Thanks.

Hey gundamit,

I took a look at your tccd timings and their is something I would like to ask you. Why do you use these values:

Max Async: 10ns
Read Preamble: 8ns

I have two sticks of Gskill tccd, LC's (the poor ones ;)) and they do 2.5-4-3-7 up to 305mhz stable. I currently have 'Max Async' set to 7ns and 'Read Preamble' is set at 5ns. Their are a few other different settings which im going to change to yours to see if the mem will still run at 305mhz rock stable.

I report my results in a bit
10-02-2005, 09:35 PM
Vapor

I need a really high preamble to even get the Opty above 2.8GHz. Max async was also higher than what I used in my 4400+ but I needed it to get stable above 3.1GHz.
10-02-2005, 10:07 PM
mongoled

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor

I need a really high preamble to even get the Opty above 2.8GHz. Max async was also higher than what I used in my 4400+ but I needed it to get stable above 3.1GHz.

Yes, ive suspected for a while tht these settings need tweaking according to CPU type. At the moment im using my old Winny, it seems to need different settings to the Venice I had. The Venice was alot more particular to these settings!!

Ofcourse I will be doing alot of testing once my 146 gets here and these settings will get alot of my attention.

Anyhow ive just tested with gundamit settings, I made changes in my bios for trc/trfc/trrd/twr/by pass max/idle cycle. Tightening Trc and Trfc has given me a nice increase in bandwidth in memtest (havnt tested elsewhere) if i were to try and get this same increase by using a Trcd value of 3 (I have 4 set in bios) I would get alot of errors in memtest.

With the tighter timings 305mhz gives me single bit errors, 300mhz is fine, im going to try 'burning in' at 300mhz with the tighter timings, then move the mhz up later on. Im very happy with my LC's, i believe the constant tweaking has helped break these in nicely.

Gundamit,

Can you tell me why you have 'By Pass Max' set to 7x? Ive never played with this setting, nor seen anybody else talk abt this setting, so im curious to know wht your experiences are with this.
10-02-2005, 10:12 PM
Vapor

7x Bypass Max speeds things up in 32M and according at least one guy on Team Japan, adds stability.
10-02-2005, 11:41 PM
afireinside

I have no clue what bypass I was running at 3527... I DID need higher async/preable to break 3050 though.
10-03-2005, 03:23 AM
dinos22

a lot of you have been wondering what motherboards these Opteron CPUs are actually made for..............well here it is

http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tomcatk8e.html

http://www2.amd.com/us-en/recmobo/De...queryID=100327

all this trouble over one freaking motherboard......might as well let all the other manufacturers support these.......
10-03-2005, 03:24 AM
Zeus

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W000T!!!
Managed to track one down-- with the magical stepping!!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=37851&stc=1

Gonna torture this baby tonight!!! :D
10-03-2005, 03:41 AM
Vapor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus

W000T!!!
Managed to track one down-- with the magical stepping!!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=37851&stc=1

Gonna torture this baby tonight!!! :D

Good job....have fun with it, it's a good one (the production number is VERY close to mine, too) ;)
10-03-2005, 06:19 AM
gundamit

Well I finally gave up on my TCCD at 314x10 9:10 divider. My best run was at 24:06.922. Oh well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mongoled

I took a look at your tccd timings and their is something I would like to ask you. Why do you use these values:

Max Async: 10ns
Read Preamble: 8ns

No reason in particular. I'm usually just thrashing about or going with auto settings. I did drop the Read Preamble to 7ns on my final TCCD run which was 2 seconds faster than my last posted results, so dropping it more may help.

I put in my BH-5 and tried to find my max clock. I think its 3.15ghz but unfortunately I have to use the 7:10 divider and that runs my BH-5 a lot lower than their top speed.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9...ivtight3pa.png

My BH-5 won't go to> 258 so i had to drop the speed to 3.1ghz in order to go with the 3:4 divider. First run came up at 24:01.719. Tried defragging the drives (couldn't hurt) moved the SuperPi program off a partition to the small root drive, turned off DLL in Tweaker and moved DQS Skew Mode from Slow to fast in Tweaker. Took another run ...

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/6...4divadf1za.png

and i finally get to under 24 minutes in SuperPi 32M. :woot:

Later on this week I'll get my Patriots back in and do some more testing. Perc has kindly offered to send me the bracket I need to get my Prommie going. Hopefully next weekend I'll be sub-zero. Anyone care to guess what I should expect to see with mild sub zero cooling?

Finally remembered to get A64MaxTCase.

http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/4932/maxtemp8js.png

Dang. I was hoping for 67c rating! :(
10-03-2005, 07:12 AM
Zeus

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Please allow me to brag a little... :D

How's 3GHz stock voltage watercooled sound?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=37859&stc=1

Didn't do much else tbh, but still nice.

Have done 32M@ 2850 stock voltage, no problem but the time was very bad, i think windows is borked. :mad:

Will try some more, haven't been passed stock Vcore yet, all seems to work flawless with my Gskill TCCD although ClockGen won't work proper if i try to raise HTT more than 10MHz so i have to overclock oldschool in Bios.
10-03-2005, 07:15 AM
Vapor

About CG, I've learned to never make adjustments more than 2-3MHz HTT at a time...it sucks but it's what's necessary I've learned.

Good looking OC there, bud. :D
10-03-2005, 07:40 AM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus

Please allow me to brag a little... :D

How's 3GHz stock voltage watercooled sound?

Sounds good! How high do you have to raise the volts to get it 32M stable at that speed? Post #422 has a guy at 3ghz 32M stable at 1.39v. :hehe:

Seriously though, please post tweaker settings so memory noobs like myself can be brought up to speed. :D Good luck. :thumbsup:
10-03-2005, 08:17 AM
Micketh

These, things are really looking good just browsing thru all the threads on the forum, i just orderd one the other day it shud be here tommorow but unfortunatly ive only got air cooling :(... mines a 144 to replace my 3500+ newcastle, if it can OC higher that is. Which stepping for these CPU's is best?
10-03-2005, 08:51 AM
Zeus

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It doesn't seem to like a divider, it bluescreens on me say trap_unknown_blablah. WTF?
Never mind, backed down to 2,5-4-3-7 and was able to complete a 32M run at 305x10 using just 1.42Vcore.
310x10 bluescreened yet again with the same error.

For now i'm happy, will do the usual stuff at 300x10 1:1 2,5-3-3-7 like webbrowsing and stuff. :D

So i think it's safe to say it plays nice with TCCD, no?

Here's 32M at 305x10 2,5-4-3-7, no idea what's causing the extreme long calculation time. :confused:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=37862&stc=1

More to come...
10-03-2005, 08:55 AM
Vapor

Looking good...what BIOS Zeus?
10-03-2005, 09:22 AM
Zeus

Bios 623 that came as standard.
I don't get it, 32Mstable @ 305x10 but anything over 308x10 bluescreens with error TRAP_CAUSE_UNKOWN no matter the voltage.

Using dividers gives the same error.

Have to work things out, perhaps preamble too low?
10-03-2005, 09:27 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus

Here's 32M at 305x10 2,5-4-3-7, no idea what's causing the extreme long calculation time. :confused:

weird that is very slow what a64tweaker settings you show ?

i.e.

300mhz 2.5-3-3-7

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...rpi-32m_tn.jpg

300mhz 2.5-4-4-8

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...rpi-32m_tn.jpg

300mhz 2.5-4-3-8

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...ns_trp3_tn.jpg
10-03-2005, 10:15 AM
Zeus

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No idea what's going on with 32M. :confused:

Here's my timings:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=37864&stc=1

For those who want to see stability:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=37865&stc=1

I think i can do that with slightly less Vcore as well.

Temps are ok:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=37866&stc=1
10-03-2005, 10:31 AM
GRAFiZ

Looking good!!!

Zeus, what type of cooling are you using?
10-03-2005, 10:36 AM
Vincentvega18

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRAFiZ

Looking good!!!

Zeus, what type of cooling are you using?

Watercooled, as he said with the first results.
10-03-2005, 12:25 PM
freestylercs

First prime screen in this thread :stick:

not the best cpu, but FX57 @stock vcore

http://mitglied.lycos.de/freestylerc...00MHz@1,4V.JPG

http://mitglied.lycos.de/freestylercs/hpbimg/32m.JPG

free
10-03-2005, 12:28 PM
187(V)URD@

if 32m timings are borked, try to run pi from another partition.
10-03-2005, 12:33 PM
freestylercs

Quote:

Originally Posted by 187(V)URD@

if 32m timings are borked, try to run pi from another partition.

yes, i know. wiht a blank win XP theres more performance.
but theres no delight for me to formatting a new partition.

In Germany all the Opterons are sold, now i´m waiting for the next delivery to get a 146er.

free
10-03-2005, 12:37 PM
harleybro

I have the same problem with odd 32M times. My 1M runs fine and spped seems right my 32 M seems at least 10min slow. I will be loading a new HD tonight and trying again. :confused:
10-03-2005, 01:15 PM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus

It doesn't seem to like a divider, it bluescreens on me say trap_unknown_blablah. WTF?
Never mind, backed down to 2,5-4-3-7 and was able to complete a 32M run at 305x10 using just 1.42Vcore.
310x10 bluescreened yet again with the same error.

For now i'm happy, will do the usual stuff at 300x10 1:1 2,5-3-3-7 like webbrowsing and stuff. :D

So i think it's safe to say it plays nice with TCCD, no?

Here's 32M at 305x10 2,5-4-3-7, no idea what's causing the extreme long calculation time. :confused:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=37862&stc=1

More to come...

Very nice result my friend :D
10-03-2005, 01:15 PM
asianguy80

I don't have time to run 32m but the best I can do right now with 8M is in this screenie:
http://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/maxsstable5.JPG

I think it's time to drop the multi. I just updated my bios to the latest 1.9 with liveupdate and it does better then it did before with the 1.3 bios and I got my 1T/2T timings back after the bios update. so far 295x10 5:6 divider @ 1.4+9.9% which is like 1.532v in the bios but cpuz reads it as 1.48x-1.504 stupid volts flucuate a lot on this mobo.

Idle temps were at 38's and load while running spi8m was 49c i tried moving clockgen up 1mhz and the system hardlocked. All this is probably because i'm using an MSI mobo :slapass: not as crazy as your guys' dfi's. Maybe if i'm bored this week ill give it a run in my shuttle lol we'll see what happens after i drop to a 9x multi.
10-03-2005, 01:16 PM
Zeus

Tried to re-install win XP but the first reboot after installation results in a bsod and a reboot right after it, i have no clue what's going on.
I was able to get into safe mode and install DirX9.0 and NF4/videocard drivers but it didn't help.
Tried to re-install 3 times, everytime the same behaviour.

Now i'm on an acient version of win2K which works flawless.

Odd,i will have a closer look tomorrow.

I was expecting to see around 24 minutes for 32M, soon as i have XP running again i will give it another go.

Something is holding me back, don't know what yet, without getting any signs of instability in SuperPi or anything i just get this wierd BSOD.

In other words, i have some work to do. :D

CPU is great, best bang for buck money can buy at the moment, even better than a stock $1000,- FX57. :)
10-03-2005, 01:39 PM
dogsx2

I'd try a different bios. In post #22 I got 25m56.610 on 32m on a bad mb in single channel. You should easily be in the 24m range.

I've had more fun playing with these then any other 64s. Nothing like the "gettng something for free" feeling.
10-03-2005, 01:59 PM
gbomb944

As a member of the great unwashed I have to say I want one of these. It'd be nice if I could get one at the supposed $150 pricepoint but after all hype and awesome oc's I have a feeling they'll be listed higher and probably sell out too. The egg has eyes everywhere and I'm sure they're licking their proverbial chops at the prospect of listing the low end ones at $180.

How about if everybody that has one suddenly posts that they suck and don't oc anymore.

P :D lease?
10-03-2005, 02:13 PM
Zeus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gbomb944

As a member of the great unwashed I have to say I want one of these. It'd be nice if I could get one at the supposed $150 pricepoint but after all hype and awesome oc's I have a feeling they'll be listed higher and probably sell out too. The egg has eyes everywhere and I'm sure they're licking their proverbial chops at the prospect of listing the low end ones at $180.

How about if everybody that has one suddenly posts that they suck and don't oc anymore.

P :D lease?

Ok, these cpu's suck.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=38108&stc=1

:D
10-03-2005, 02:23 PM
gbomb944

Ok, everybody else join in. And say it with conviction!
10-03-2005, 02:35 PM
jahjahbinks

Well, the market is driven by consumers.
10-03-2005, 02:49 PM
LowRun

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus

Ok, these cpu's suck.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=37885&stc=1

:D

Sure and i 'm so sad one of them is coming my way :(
10-03-2005, 03:31 PM
gbomb944

Sorry about that bro, we feel your pain.
10-03-2005, 03:56 PM
VulgarHandle

please, i don't remember a huge premium on mobile bartons when they came out...... competition is just as big as supply/demand
10-03-2005, 03:57 PM
xenolith

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowRun

Sure and i 'm so sad one of them is coming my way :(

You could sell it to me. :D
10-03-2005, 04:12 PM
fullup3

Yea, I've ordered a 146 too. To bad they suck... I should have just ordered a celeron from newegg!
10-03-2005, 04:13 PM
LowRun

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenolith

You could sell it to me. :D

I'm not that bad :D
10-03-2005, 05:49 PM
dinos22

anyone actually order the Dual Cores at all
10-03-2005, 05:57 PM
xenolith

I was going to get a 165, until the rational side of my brain protested the $460 price tag. :slapass:

I think Gray n Ugly said he was going to get one.
10-03-2005, 06:00 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenolith

I was going to get a 165, until the rational side of my brain protested the $460 price tag. :slapass:

I think Gray n Ugly said he was going to get one.

i think the 165 is a bit on the pricey side BUT that depends how it OCs....the other models are on part with 2x1M cache X2 CPUs......so shouldn't stop people who were thinking of going X2 in either 4400+ and 4800+
10-03-2005, 06:09 PM
xenolith

Is there any real-world improvement to having the extra cache with dual core? I know there's practically none with single core.
10-03-2005, 06:13 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenolith

Is there any real-world improvement to having the extra cache with dual core? I know there's practically none with single core.

extra cache is the next speed bump......i.e. 200MHz so that's what the difference is........ 2.6GHz 2x1MB cache is the same as 2.8GHz 2x215K cache
10-03-2005, 06:20 PM
xenolith

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

extra cache is the next speed bump......i.e. 200MHz so that's what the difference is........ 2.6GHz 2x1MB cache is the same as 2.8GHz 2x215K cache

I understand AMD's speed classification. But it has been proven by several sources (i've seen) that the extra cache isn't nearly as significant as a 200mhz boost. I'm just wondering if it's the same with dual core.
10-03-2005, 06:33 PM
delas52

When will new-egg have them?
10-03-2005, 06:34 PM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogsx2

I've had more fun playing with these then any other 64s. Nothing like the "gettng something for free" feeling.

Its a high unlike any other. Suddenly it was like I didn't need any sleep last week. :D Turned into an OC zombie mumbling " uhrnnnn ... must have more speed ... urhnnn".

Thank goodness I'm through with my initial testing. I can get some sleep again. Next week when I get on the Prommie, I'll have to stock on this stuff. :toast:

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbomb944

How about if everybody that has one suddenly posts that they suck and don't oc anymore. P lease?

Okay I'll add my mine to the others. They suck. Stay away from these CPUs. Can't even get to 3.2ghz on water! ;)
10-03-2005, 08:42 PM
TooRUde

should be getting my 144 and 146 by wed or thursday. praying I still get one of the first production models. I will cry if I get 0531 and it hits just 2.7 like my current venice
10-03-2005, 11:18 PM
Justinkoko

where do you guys get these cpu?

is all 146 opteron 939pin?
10-03-2005, 11:37 PM
afireinside

We got them from Vandi423. He doesn't have any more. His name as source is plastered all over every single page of every opteron thread a minimum of 5 times :stick:
10-03-2005, 11:51 PM
Zeus

1 Attachment(s)

Win2K LargeSystemCache enabled in register:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=37894&stc=1 :banana:

As good as Win XP i think?
10-03-2005, 11:57 PM
dinos22

great 32M time

i'm getting some replacement LEs tomorrow....can't wait to get stuck into them.....fingers crossed to some decent 2.5-4-3-6 times
10-04-2005, 12:30 AM
afireinside

Nice 32m... Thats what I got a 3.4ghz :stick:
10-04-2005, 01:56 AM
dogsx2

Zeus

Great 32m, you went from very bad to very,very good. Some tweaking.
10-04-2005, 02:25 AM
Ferry82

After work i gonna get my 146 opteron :banana:
10-04-2005, 02:34 AM
ArcTan

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbomb944

As a member of the great unwashed I have to say I want one of these. It'd be nice if I could get one at the supposed $150 pricepoint but after all hype and awesome oc's I have a feeling they'll be listed higher and probably sell out too. The egg has eyes everywhere and I'm sure they're licking their proverbial chops at the prospect of listing the low end ones at $180.

How about if everybody that has one suddenly posts that they suck and don't oc anymore.

P :D lease?

I don't think it'll be that bad
a 144 here in Australia is about us$175 which is a few dollars more than a venice 3000
10-04-2005, 03:05 AM
dogsx2

Quote:

Originally Posted by gundamit

Its a high unlike any other. Suddenly it was like I didn't need any sleep last week. :D Turned into an OC zombie mumbling " uhrnnnn ... must have more speed ... urhnnn".

Thank goodness I'm through with my initial testing. I can get some sleep again. Next week when I get on the Prommie, I'll have to stock on this stuff. :toast: Okay I'll add my mine to the others. They suck. Stay away from these CPUs. Can't even get to 3.2ghz on water! ;)

That drink might become the oc'ers drink of choice. Features:

100% Pure Steven Seagal Juice
Designed for intense mortal combat or any extreme situation requiring ultimate energy
Can has Steven Seagal’s face on it (who could ask for more!?!)
10-04-2005, 03:08 AM
dogsx2

Quote:

Originally Posted by afireinside

We got them from Vandi423. He doesn't have any more. His name as source is plastered all over every single page of every opteron thread a minimum of 5 times :stick:

I really feel sorry for him. His inbox must have a jillion request for them.
10-04-2005, 03:10 AM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogsx2

That drink might become the oc'ers drink of choice. Features:

100% Pure Steven Seagal Juice
Designed for intense mortal combat or any extreme situation requiring ultimate energy
Can has Steven Seagal’s face on it (who could ask for more!?!)

It has a nasty side effect though. People have reported pony tails sprouting from the back of their heads.
10-04-2005, 03:14 AM
delas52

When will these be readily available on major online stores?
10-04-2005, 03:21 AM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by delas52

When will these be readily available on major online stores?

The Steven Seagal drinks? :confused: ;)

I wonder if AMD will actually run production up on these CPUs to meet demand and if there will be a sudden drop off in the quality of the CPUs. If the retail channel can't meet demand supplies may be sproradic for a while.
10-04-2005, 03:28 AM
delas52

:D

I just want to know if I should delay buying a 3000+ venice to wait for these to come out big.
10-04-2005, 04:23 AM
gbomb944

Quote:

just want to know if I should delay buying a 3000+ venice to wait for these to come out big.

Nah. Opti's suck. Bad. Really Really bad. :)

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