wow, and imagine, 99% of people cant see over 60 fps you must be the son of god. pshQuote:
But really, anything below 100 fps is just so unplayable, I would run that SLI setup in 640x480 no AA.
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wow, and imagine, 99% of people cant see over 60 fps you must be the son of god. pshQuote:
But really, anything below 100 fps is just so unplayable, I would run that SLI setup in 640x480 no AA.
damn i really wish this motherboard would come out soon
einCe
wow, and imagine, 99% of people cant see over 60 fps you must be the son of god. psh
99.9% of people don't use SLI. It's so easy to tell 60 FPS vs 100 FPS in some games, it's not even funny.
But seems it breaks quoting.Quote:
Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
This is really not the point. The point is that the bus bandwidth of 2x x8 isn't used up and 2x x16 offers a laughable improvement.
And future games will not make more use of 2x x16 because they will spend more time in shaders, not shuffling data around.
so i guess we are still looking at another month or so until this board comes out :stick:
I hope it comes out soon I can't wait. :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
probably :(Quote:
Originally Posted by jetjaguar
Another month?
That SUCKS. :slapass:
yeah im deciding whether to get this board or switch over to the dfi crossfire board
Maybe we should be glad that DFI isn't releasing a mobo that has issues. I'm wishing they'd jump on it and hurry up and fix anything that's wrong with the expert (indeed if there is anything wrong with it). :mad: :slapass:
ETA: mid-November says ncix
I think there are going to be problems for sure, after all it's DFI... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by revlimiter9000
But hey, without problems it would be boring wouldn't it? :p:
No boring PCs wanted here either, But what the heck I've had worse(pcchips anyone?).:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vassili
I'm hoping for mine within the next 2 weeks ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
NCIX ETA changes like the wind, usually
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Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
QFT
yeah i've been hoping for a long time....i know some of you guys know people that know people but i won't believe it until i see it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
more like we prolly wont see these till decemeber .. sucks but o well ..
i hope they dont release the expert .. then decide to release another one with 16x
I think all Mobo manufacturers have their problems. No mobo is flawless. :rolleyes: Can't expect perfection. DFI jump on it and release a kick ass DFI Expert.
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Originally Posted by revlimiter9000
ok first of all There is only one Major engineer at DFI which is Legend Oskar Wu!!
you if you know Taiwanese/Chinese check out Oskar's MSN you will know he didn't feeling too well after couple of months of head ach with Crossfire/Expert :(
the Man is burn out and need Rest!! give him a break mate!! in my view there is not one product on the market can compete with DFI NF4 series or Crossfire :banana:
not to mention which Lengend brought 4v vdimm in to the market first :p:
and the board is finished now just need to Ramp up production lo and couple of BIOS fix will make it shine :cool:
You do know that DFI is a second tier motherboard manufacturer, right? To call a company that actually gives personal support (on dfi-street.com) 'bloated' and relate it to microsoft is just naive. :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by revlimiter9000
They don't have 1000 people working for them and just a few years ago they mostly only made cheap OEM boards. :fact:
Next time, assess your validity and do some research before comparing a small company to a relative giant like microsoft. :slap:
maybe Oskar figured a way of rolling crossfire and expert together for a board that can handle ATI AMR + nVidia SLI so redesigning a DFI NF4 Crossfire Expert board hehe
Lood007 I apologize for that post. I left computer logged onto XS and I left for school and it appears that my roommate (who's against DFI) posted that comment. I deleted the post. I guess I wont leave my computer logged on XS. He's been telling me that DFI is a bad motherboard and that Abit is a lot better. My sincere apologies.
Well roomates can be a problem I guess, So I forgive You, Besides Oscar Wu has performed what amounts to be miracles by just going from Abit to DFI, I had two DFI motherboards under socket A and they worked great, My next 939pin motherboard upgrade will be one too I expect, Although It might only be the DFI Infinity nF4 Ultra Motherboard as I would have to save up for two to three months for the Expert motherboard, Sure the Infinity only has 1 16x pci-e slot, But It's an upgrade for what is pretty much just a number cruncher for SETI. But in any case It will be a DFI as I think I can trust Oscar Wu. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...anufacture=DFI
shows in stock ; )
i don't know, i tend not to trust NCIX - their in-stock/out-of-stock changes like the wind...and they typically don't even have the product...lol
yea , surprised i didnt add that to my post , we'll find out
NCIX shows 10 in Viking (in-stock).
IDK what to think
Well I went ahead and picked one up from NCIX, hopefully they actually DO have it in stock...the email they sent me said they did. Guess we'll see.
Bytewise has them in stock now:
http://www.bytewizecomputers.com/products/7/7/759/10473
i don't think so....you'll find that they'll have them on backorder when you go get oneQuote:
Originally Posted by J-Mag
SO do you think NICX is pulling shens then too?Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I just got off the phone with NCIX.com. Their website lists 10 in stock, but they guy told me they only had 5 left....now they only have 4 :D
i reckon it's just BAIT marketing boys...........CAN THEY TAKE A PHOTO OF THE BOARD cause i bet ya they've got noneQuote:
Originally Posted by Avid6eek
I'll post my tracking number tomorrow if they actually ship it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
well even though i wont order one now I hope they are truely shippin em to you guys, as I would definately like to see some results.
I will just post the email I got from the when I asked about my pre-order. They had this to say:
So hopefully they aren't lying and they are really in-stock and going to ship. If it ships I will post pictures when I get it. But not going to hold my breath either!!Quote:
Dated Oct 25, 2005 at 04:40 PM reply from Ncix Support
Hi Jared:
The motherboard just arrived today, and your order probably will ship out for you tomorrow.
Thank you,
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Kai Chen
Ncix.com/ Netlink Computer Inc
Dated Oct 25, 2005 at 03:27 PM composed by you
On your website it shows the DFI Sli-Dr Expert instock. Does this mean you have those in stock and ready to ship? If so do you know when my order will get processed and shipped out. I cannot track the order anymore on the Order Tracking tab so unfortunately I must bother you some to find out. Thanks in advance for any information about my order!!!
Jared
how come only canadian resellers have them .. ??
i guess ill wait and see what results people get before i buy one .. ill wait and see if the egg or monarch or zzf get them
I guess now that the Canadain stores have them in stock it's only a matter of time before the U.S. gets them in stock and I'll be able to give my friend's ultra-d back to him and then get my hands on the Expert. :slobber: :toast:
Just to play devils advocate... It is possible that a batch of "revision 1" boards were shipped out that had a few quirks to them. I see no other explaination on how DFI could site manufacturing problems and delay shipment to the rest of the free world.
I for one will be waiting until Newegg goes thru a few batches before picking one up as all these delays and pressure from the community to release= some boards with some quirks.
Maybe the website Bytewise is in Canada(I don't know for sure, But they could be), They sell to the USA among other places and the currency can be changed to the Canadian dollar, US dollar, Australian dollar, UK pounds sterling or the Euro if one wants. So I don't see a problem really. I mean I'd love to order It myself from other places like Monarch or Directron, But It's somewhat early right now and they may sometime later carry It for all I know. Until then It's get It from where one can, When one can. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by jetjaguar
ill wait till they are at several us retailers .. and some of the guys here have them and post the results .. ill mess around with my opty when it gets here on my sli-dr
If that's true I would just sell mine on eBay. The demand is so high for them I would get all my money back. I wouldn't expert their to be any major problems given that this is just an update. It isn't a totally new motherboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by LexDiamonds
i hope they dont release another board in a month with two x16 instead of two 8x
Yep - they're canadian :)Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom314
Head Office - Canada
Bytewize Computers
2793 Princess Street (Woodbine Plaza)
Kingston, Ontario
Canada
K7P 2X1
Is there a new chipset coming from Nvidia anytime soon? If so, than it would be smart to hold off. I cant see DFI releasing a 16X board a month after this, than having to support that board either. I think they would get a serious BOO from the crowd.
Im hoping this board ships soon. Im in need.
Well either bytewise was pulling people's legs or they sold out cause this is what it says on their website now.
NCIX is down to 7 according to their stock checker but more than likely if they have them instock they are lower than that. Will be interesting to see if DFI was playing around and missed a deadline or if these etailers are lying and pulling our legs.Quote:
This item has not yet been released. You may order it today, and we'll ship it to you when it arrives at our warehouse. This item will be available in 2 days (Friday, October 28th, 2005).
Oh well, hurry up and wait!!!! That is the game of pc enthusiasts!!!
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i don't think that there will be a new chipset until the release of M2. just doesn't really make sense since it's doing quite well for nvidia right now. milk the market and use that money to R&D for a new groundbreaking chipset. or so i hope. how long was NF2 around?
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Originally Posted by 20AEGTI
I was REALLY close to ordering one just now....... But my gut is telling me to wait until some reviews are out on it. AND when it's available in a US store that wont charge 18.00 to ship it to me
available in germany too. :D
delete this pointless post.Quote:
Originally Posted by DFIorAsus
its a discussion, you know thats what forums are for you know?
Now?Quote:
Originally Posted by thomas66
NCIX now has it in stock.
anybody with a tracking number yet???
anybody with a pre-review yet? thanks
No you're question about the Sapphire Xpress 200P, if it supports both ati and nvidia cards or you're attempt to put DDR2 into a socket 939 AMD64 is not pointless :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by DFIorAsus
On-topic:
Called Icomputers(dutch shop) yesterdey and they said it comes this week, so it ain't impossible that some shops have it already in stock. Would be awesome thought finally my Expert :cool:
i'd be surprised that end users will get these boards before people like Bigtoe, AG, RG, OPB....common guys doesn't make much sense so these "in stock" tags look suspect to me still
S7e9h3n was supposed to be one of the first with this board according to Oskar Wu....I'm skeptical that these are in fact the Experts and not the CF-DR boards.
IDk what to think, but NCIX shows 7 in stock still.
Anyone wanna be a guinea pig?
If NCIX has it then it is only a matter of days until Newegg has it...will wait.
quite tempting to get it... but i must hold the temptation! If I get this board, it would also mean that i need to get a new graphic card (PCI-e) AND a new CPU (currently a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty 3200+ that would only do 2.6Ghz 2T)... sigh..
Ban this pointless member :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by DFIorAsus
How you going to come in here and post something like that? Anyways back on topic.
im sure monarch and newegg will have them soon .. like i said before i will wait and see what the people who have them to report back with problems .. etc ..
agreed,Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
on-topic - im realy confused do we have some idea to when this mobo is ready ?
would realy like to get my hands on this gem, but at the same time the dual 16x slot chipset lurks in my mind. :(
i know it gives very small increase in overall fps output but you never know i might use sli aa. :)
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Originally Posted by DFIorAsus
Lock YOURSELF. If you don't like the thread, don't post in it. SIMPLE.
If you have nothing to contribute, we dont need to hear from you. :nono:
This board looks really interesting. Might be my first foray into the land of DFI. I hope anyone from Canada will post results.
Well I ordered one and they said 6 in stock when I placed it, so we will see if they follow through. I chose express ship from canada to usa. God only knows how long that will take.
So the board will be soon released ,
but why have we don't seen any review about yet ?
Based on Tony's post here...I do not think it will be released soon:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=475
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Originally Posted by Tony
but if that's the case as Ryder suggested, then how can some stores already have it? (e.g. NCIX)
Tony was referring to Crossfire BT not the Expert. Expert if NF4.
Well it appears NCIX has something in stock along with a "Expert" sku and the stock on hand keeps going down (now at 5), so I'll keep my fingers crossed, but these could be some early rejects in the wild for all we know.
Expert Manual link:
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Upload/Manual/87900530.pdf
There is still a 5v/12v extra connector next to the top pcie slot.
Ummm that is why I hilighted the "Expert is also delayed" part of that sentence?Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
The ncix site is showing 2 more now in stock at a different warehouse. I guess we won't know till someone gets one in their hands.
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Originally Posted by xgman
that sucks .. i thought it was only gonna have the 24 pin and the 8 pin ? :mad:
so sorry kind sir, please forgive my squinty asian eyesQuote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
I do not know if the board is coming soon or not...I just wanted to offer some info from that other thread that I read :)
From NCIX to USA is like 7 days even with $25 Express ship. Might as well wait for local stock. probably would get it sooner and less expensive.
Maybe the rethink is getting rid of that ridiculous extra 4-pin connector above the PCI Express slot. I mean, come on! It's got an 8 pin and a 24 pin power connector!!! Why the hell did they put that 4 pin connector on there?! :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
CF-BT is either delayed or cancelled By DFI, hard to tell which. Expert is also delayed due to what i think is DFI having a rethink on the board.
Simple....trace lengths. There is far more to designing a mobo with consistent power levels than the type of connectors and the watts/amps behind them. "Where" in the circuit power is introduced is very important. When you build a board to be able to run out of spec this becomes even more important.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroatdog
Well, the story gets more interesting. According the to the guy at NCIX, the product is not in-stock now but will be in 2-5 days. Then they will ship the motherboards out. Now this is all after I get an email from the saying I wanted to cancel my order. I have never told anyone with NCIX that I wanted to cancel my order. We will see how it works out. Loosing faith in them at very turn.
There's more to it than just ditching it......you know, just because. That is why everyone whines about the Epox 9NPA+Ultra, it's not as populare because of the placement of the main power location, but it's there for a reason, the board is a hell of an overclocker for the price. Sure, other boards place them out of the way, but they don't overclock as well or cost a helluva lot more if they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroatdog
DFI wants as much stability out of a board that is most likely going to see some torture.
Well here is the official response I got to why my order was "cancelled but not cancelled".
I guess we will see what happens.Quote:
Hi Jared:
I checked our warehouse that find out the what happened. The inventory make some mistake that put the wrong label on this motherboard so all the orders of DFI motherboard cancelled today and will be re-label and re-ship tomorrow. We are thank you for your patience regarding this matter.
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Kai Chen
Ncix.com/ Netlink Computer Inc
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:rotf:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:shocked: :shocked: :shock2: :ROTF:That is so dim you could blow in his ear and put out the candle !Quote:
Well here is the official response I got to why my order was "cancelled but not cancelled".
Hi Jared:
I checked our warehouse that find out the what happened. The inventory make some mistake that put the wrong label on this motherboard so all the orders of DFI motherboard cancelled today and will be re-label and re-ship tomorrow. We are thank you for your patience regarding this matter.
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Kai Chen
Ncix.com/ Netlink Computer Inc
What the heck if that is even close to true I think i just laughed up my lungs.
i wonder what he's say tomorrow :hitself: :rotf: .....more re-labelling anyone :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by da-key
So far my order seems to be moving along. The "order processing" portion just completed about an hour ago.
http://hardware-geek.com/Pictures/NCIX.jpg
hmmm do u guys think we can put some different coolers on the nb on this board with sli .. looks like u could fit the swiftech one .. hehe ..
i just SUCK at taking off the stock nb heatsink .. too afraid of messing up the traces :(
i like the look of that.....would be interesting if you do end up getting it first......heheh you'll be asked a lot of questions that's for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by Avid6eek
Actually.....OPB first, then me ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
not looking good for all the poor souls here getting their hopes up.....they better have the stock i guessQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
s7 what's the word from OPB....is he getting his soon or what
Wow how much of a smart :banana: :banana: :banana: can people be? Actually if you read my posts, I have repeatedly said that I am not getting my hopes up and just post to keep everyone up to date on what they are saying. Since you probably have not ordered/preordered one you don't have a clue. This is what they are actually saying for the others who are interested:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
So as I have said before, I am not really going to believe it shipped until I get a tracking number that works. Otherwise the saga continues, and as much as people like to think they know what is going on, that is what is really being said.Quote:
Pending Shipment
Stock is being transferred for your order, and the item will be shipped to you as soon as we have completed the transfer. Product transfers usually take less than 1 business day. You will not be charged any additional shipping for this item.
SKU Description Qty
1 16282 DFI LANParty UT NF4 SLI-DR Expert ATX S939 NFORCE4 SLI DDR 2PCI-E16 SATA RAID Sound LAN Motherboard 1
Seeing a working shipping number would look so good right about now.
He should be getting his either right before me or around the same time. Last time I checked, we were looking at an eta of mid->late next week, but plans may change since Oskar's feeling a little under the weather in recent days......Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
LOL...I won't really have any answers....this rig is waiting on an X1800XT. It'll be a waste if I get the board first...I'll just be looking at it for a couple weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
dude i can tell you haven't mastered english language yet which makes sense why you'd completely misunderstand my jokeQuote:
Originally Posted by 20AEGTI
btw i do have had one of these boards on order for a month and a half roughly believe it or not with Australia's biggest DFI distributor. They are in direct contact with DFI daily and news is not looking good supply wise. You should use common sense as well and think about the fact that s7 and all the other well know guys i mentioned in my previous post have not seen the board yet....what makes you think you will get one before them (since you probably have no idea who those people are i should enlighten you....some of them are DFI employees)......i know it's farked up but i've already been through your experience if you read back and was disappointed due to NO STOCK allocation...just thought i'd share that with you
.......anyways really looking forward to seeing this board in hands of some of those guys :toast:
wow - been out of the loop for a bit with work. So , does anyone have their expert board yet? Looks like there was a delay... is that because of the nforce4 bug? I saw that on the XS main page... I had my RAID0 crash from that bug I think... ripping tons of DVDs, I had lots of 1gig files... I rebooted after a crash while ripping a DVD and my root partition was unreadable... doh! no more RAID0 on the OS drive for me... sorry, OT tangent.
Anyways, I am still hoping to get the expert board in November, dep on avail. :)
mastered the english language?Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Other well known?
Irony? I think so! :banana:
Let me restate it, I have repeatedly said that I am not getting my hopes up and don't look forward to receiving it anytime soon. I just post to let people know what NCIX is stating since even you proved my point. In that, you didn't know what NCIX was saying about the stock or shipping of the boards. I have been around a while as a long time lurker and registered to get some feedback on some items. Just because my post count is not as high as yours doesn't mean that I don't know who certain people are especially since they usually say who they are in their sigs.