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Yeah major these are the "blue" sticks with infineon chips. Seems like these sticks are real touchy when it comes to volts as 2.8 was actually holding me back from higher clocks. I just did superpi at 262 2.5-3-3-6 followed by some memtest. However I think I'm at the edge of stability for this mem as 265 won't pass superpi even at 2.5-3-3-8. I'll try 3-3-3-8 tomorrow but for now I'm satisfied.
Cpu-z verification for 262:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=29340
DB Updated.
To my complete dismay after 4 days of testing my X2 4400+ and finding a 100% stable prime and ram tests for 24 hrs I experienced many problems last night in BF2, apparently this game does some type of stress the torture tests don't.
Problems ranged from Punkbuster error in file/memory, to disconnected from servers unexpectedly (was not my ISP I had another PC steady pinging many sites no lost packets)
Then of course there was the occasional boot to desktop. I'm having to back down my speed from the 2.7ghz that was stable 270x10 to 260x10 now with still the same 1.525v it sucks bad any opinions?
I don't think the ram is the issue BUT when I went 280x9 I got the punkbuster file/memory error, so memtest and prime really don't tell all for stability
What bios are you using ? Do you have erratta 123 set to Auto in bios ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
I experienced some flaky stuff with it disabled
Bios is the 623-3 from DFI site, the erratta 123 is disabled because I read it increased performance. I could change to auto if you really think that might help? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Major
Was going to try different multis tonight and different settings as well but I thought I had 270x10 locked in stable..... It definately was my best bench / 3dmarks05 ram/cpu speed, although both cores weren't 100% stable 24/7 when gaming only 1 core is used and when I stressed either core at 100% it was 24/7 stable at that clock.
I know the ram is much more than capable as you are aware as well. Tried to find a definitive answer on that Erratta 123 but didn't find any real conclusive information either way.
You think I should try that erratta 123 first before anything else?
i would say take your time testing prime and do 8 hours of each type of prime test the small fft blend and that stuff. they test your system in different ways maybe that can help?? i would say the best way to test is just play battlefield 2 because its a pretty fun torture test but that game is kinda buggy so you would never know if its your system or just the gameQuote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
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Kitchen Measures
Exact same problems here. 275mhz is about as high as I can go superpi32m stable. If I game with BF2 for about 30 minutes at those speeds BF2 literally closes on me in the middle of a game with NO errors at all. I back it back to 270mhz and it runs fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
Also, Pentium777, are you running the latest BF2 patch. It cleaned up a bunch of issues, especially the mem leak from the 1.01 patch.
Yes, latest 1.02 patch is installed (needed for most servers anyway) well at least I am not alone in this issue. Are you running with Errata 123 Disabled or Auto? Although I read disabled speeds things up Major said he has some flaky issues with it and he set to Auto and it solved problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by DriveEuro
I was getting at first a lot of disconnected from server messages, nothing to do with connectivity, backed down to 2.65 from my 2.7 and it turned into random poof to desktop. However I think I should maybe have the vcore at 1.55 instead? I went from 2.7 (1.525) to 2.65 (1.50) maybe I should try 2.65 again with 1.55v? Running around 50-55'C depends on room temp that's not too hot right? Think 1.55v 24/7 would be safe enough?
Game might be buggy but never had any issues of losing connect or boot to desktop on my other system I think it is testing pretty thoroughly and finding weaknesses :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by brandinb
I have both of the errata things disabled.Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
1.55v should be fine. I do 1.63v 24/7 and 100% load all day everyday (folding at home).
nice professor, good to see some more mushkis up there. i think i'll try dropping my volts down a bit too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor12
i never know what to believe on the dfi board. i set it to 2.7 + .03v but the bios will read 2.75 and the measuring point reads 2.8 so what are the dimms actually getting? is it stepped further down after the vdimm measuring point on the board?(btw thats a general question, i know you have the epox)
anyway, good job, this sunday i think i'll have some time to tweak. i was going to see if i could lower the latency a bit anyway.
btw, did you just get them and from where? i'm wondering if its some of the new sticks as mushkin was out of stock for a couple weeks.
Pentium777 Is your video card still overclocked? If it is try it at defaults. Might want to try 250*11 THe 11 multiplier seems to work better for me. You will lose just a little tiny bit of memory bandwidth but everything else will be the same. I run at 257*11 100% stable in everything. At 270*10 which is 130mhz lower than 257*11, I also get strange errors.
As soon as I experienced those problems I immediately put video card at defaults thinking that was the cause, but it wasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
Do you have Errata 123 disabled or Auto?
11x multi? I could do it I think but would be a high OC for sure, do you think I'd be better leaving 11x and just lowering FSB/RAM to whatever my best CPU OC is, probably 240-250 max at 1.55v
What kind of strange errors at 270x10 (which is what I found WAS stable before real game testing BF2) and the fact you run 257x11 and solves it is strange. Makes me think that CPU definately isn't the cause, is it perhaps the FSB or HTT I guess it is called for AMD being too high?
Let me know what you think would be the best thing to try tonight first. Maybe doing the 11x multi will get me a better OC overall like you are experiencing but on air probably not over 2700
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Originally Posted by pentium777
BF2 has alot of stability problems. I'm running at 2.8GHz, prime95 stable for more than 12 hours, and stable at all other stress tests and benchmarks. The only thing that causes me problems is BF2. I put everything to stock speeds and it still crashes to desktop. I looked all over the internet and it seems that alot of people are having this problem too. That pretty much means to be that it's the game and not my systems stability.
Oh I so didn't want to hear this information. I'd run all stock to ensure that BF2 was perfect :mad: I can tell you though I ran last night at 2.4ghz 267x9 and I didn't have any crashes etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by kman79
But.... one big point to make is that all my BF2 gameplay before the X2 was on P4 3.4EE OC'd with 6800U and w/o patch 1.02 and it was flawless never ever a boot from the game. I guess it will take some thorough testing to make sure all is well in BF2 land, because it certainly is one of the biggest reasons I bought an AMD / 7800 GTX combo.
erratta 123 will not effect performance, it simply fixes an issue with the X2 going into a buffer overload error or something like that.
With it dissabled I have problems with programs droping out to windows and error messages that say this program has incountered a problem and needs to be closed.
With it enabled those issues went away so you should try it atleast.
The other erratta 9? I leave disabled, when enabled I get BSOD
Great, I thank you very much on that clarification Major I am sure other people have this question as well especially if they read the "Errata 123 disabling may increase performance on dual core processors" which is why I disabled it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Major
I guess I will try this first with my existing 270x10 then work on seeing if multipliers will solve issue.
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Originally Posted by pentium777
Out of curiously, when you played BF2 at first before any patches came out, did you have problems with the game crashing to desktop or anything? From what I remember, I had no problems with the game before any of the patches.
I just finsihed playing no more than ten minutes ago and I didn't have a crash either, and that was with the OC settings. It's frustrating, sometimes it can go on for hours without a problem, and sometimes no more than 30 minutes and it crashes.
With all the benching and torture tests I've put this computer through, I feel very confident that it's stable. Temps are at 34C CPU and 33 MB at idle, and at 43C CPU and 38C MB on full load during gameplay on BF2, using Asus probe. I think those temps are very respectable for an OCed machine. Cooling is provided by One Panaflo 120mm front intake, and one Panaflo 92mm side intake, exhaust is one Panaflo 120mm exhaust. CPU is cooled with a ridiculous high speed 92mm Delta Fan at over 100CFM, over an XP-90, a bit loud but it works.
Any other torture tests besides Prime95, and SuperPi to run? I've ran loops of 3DMark05 at 15 loops per game test and no problems also. Although frames droped by 1-3 fps due to heat maybe, but it got through it just fine. I mean, running prime95 for over 12 hours and passsing 32M test on SuperPi, and looping 3Dmark05 for 15 tests per game test and passing all that should equate to a stable system right? I've thrown everything I can at this computer and it got through it all, what's left?
All in all, I'm happy with my setup. This was my first ever computer build and I think I got it running well. Definately a good experience for me. So good I wan to build another one utlizing the SLi feature with two 7800GTX. I got a dell card that I can use to pick up two BFG 7800s, but I don't think it's wise to do so right now, I don't want to put myself in a bigger hole in terms of debt.
Getting back on topic. I went for max stable System OC, so I'm only running my Ballistix at 255@2.6V. System is at 2805MHz stable. I know I could run higher on the memory, but I'm limited to 260FSB with max voltage to the CPU of 1.55V. So running the mem higher doesn't benefit me much.
Anyone been able to run higher than 270 FSB with 1.55V prime stable for 12 Hours?
I think my next build would be built around a DFI board, simply cause of higher vcore, but I'm paranoid already at running clost to 1.55V, so who knows.
Ok ready for this guys???
First of all when I switched to 11x multi and 1.55v at 2700 I now can run prime95 no errors dual core..... tested for a couple hours though before was like 10 min and 1 core would error.
Next I tried Errata 123 Auto, well in BF2 I was stuttering very bad. So I then tabbed out and set BF2.exe and the other e~... file to Core 1 only, fixed the stuttering completely. Thinking this might be Errata 123 and just to entertain the idea, I went to bios and disabled it.
Well I just played single and multiplayer for 1 hr straight and no errors and completely smooth as glass without! having to set the affinity to 1 core only..
EQ2 still have to set to one core only though until they fix the issue.
Seems the 11x multi and 246x11 is much much more stable maybe the FSB was just too high at 270? I guess that would be 1080 FSB on a 800 FSB designed board / cpu? anyway of course I will try some 250x11 to see if I can squeeze more out of this chip now but going to game a bit just to make sure it is 100%
Revised BF2 and other games, seems there is some serious issues and I know this is for X2 area but in order to stop the very bad jerkiness I have to make sure that the game processes for BF2 are set to CPU 0 and for EQ2 you can't even play without setting everquest2.exe to CPU 0.
I finished about 4-5 hrs no disconnects, no jerkiness problems at all, before there were many random problems
some weird stuff with the x2s and certain games. i was reading a thread where they were running GTA:SA at like double speed, lol.
Indeed, you have to make sure the executable and in BF2's case the BF2.exe and the e~ temp process it creates are set for one core for affinity, otherwise many issues. EQ2 will crash and burn quickly without it set that way. GTA:SA I have read same thing, still need to reinstall that game, also need to test with LOTR:BFME RTS.Quote:
Originally Posted by rise4310
It really sucks to have to go to task manager and set affinity every time how long has dual core been out!??! few months and no software developers are stepping up and at least patching code to run only 1 core to solve the issues?
Very sad indeed the amount of hours I've spent troubleshooting, last night I was seriously wishing I had bought an FX instead but since I'm 2.7 (246x11) completely stable now prime95 dual cores all day I guess I am happy since it "should" be as fast as a FX55-57, since I am doing 1920x1200 2xAA 8xAF I don't believe I will be CPU bottlenecked anytime soon.
Good to hear you got the issues worked out pentium, at least for now. I've been having trouble getting these sticks of mushkin to do anything above 265 even at cas 3. If I try booting at 270 3-3-3-8 with 2.75 or 2.8 volts I get windows file corruption and other random errors. I have tried lowering the htt but that hasn't helped the situation. Any specific memory settings I might try changing that you think would help? How about raising the chipset voltage?
@ Professor12
chipset voltage has nothing to do with the memory since the controller is on the A64
It's going to be either Vdimm, Tref, or Drive strength that your going to have to tweak to get them any higher.
On the new ballistix Z503's I am getting 292x10 at 2.85v at 1-1 3-3-8-3-1T which seems working stable. I have to run SP32 to see if it will hold up and isn't just a fantasy. ;)
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=29655
When will these be released?
They are out now at crucial.
here is a SP32 at 290 3-3-3-8-1T
Lowered multiplier to make sure that wasn't an issue.
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Originally Posted by xgman
EXCELLENT ! :toast:
What Vdimm ? Tref ? Drive Strength ? Other settings ? Bios ?
Thanks, I just "optimized defaults" for the most part. Someone suggested tref 0780? I am so used to secondary timings for tccd that I'm not sure what to set for the micron 2 gigs. I have to start playing with timings. Any suggestions for micron chip A64 timings on the DFI?Quote:
Originally Posted by Major
Vdim 2.85
Link - a - dink - a - doo.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
How low did you go on the multi?Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Too bad Crucial is so expensive, otherwise I'd buy a pair to pull me off the bottom of the list on page one. :p: Waiting now for OCZ to debut their new high flying 2gig set. :)
They already did, and it ain't that great.
I picked up some patriot ram guys, will let ya know, since no one on here has any, hopefully they perform like the mushkin and NOT the ocz.
uhh, i got the patriot ram, and mines perfectly stable up to 241 3-3-3-5 2.7 v, then 242 gives 10000 errors, at any voltage.
I don't think chipset voltage will help you much, maybe that is just the max on the ram? Even when I had mine at 291 I still could load up XP OS without file corruptions etc, only when I stress tested did I have issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor12
I am surprised to see you have 260x10 multi stable I sure couldn't do it, when I went to 246x11, which is 106mhz more for CPU I was stable again. Maybe you want to try x11 multi? You'd lower your mem/fsb obviously but I lost 0 3dmarks05 and sandra I did lose about 200-300 bandwidth but I think the CPU speed more than makes up for it at least according to 3dmarks05, also remember the FSB was designed for 800 and at 250 we're pushing it to 1000 beyond that I don't know how stable it should or shouldn't be.
The mushkins are PC3200 right? I have a feeling they were designed more for latency than OC speed, I could be wrong but from my conversations with Crucial certain types of ICs could be much better at lower FSB speeds and tight timings and some others have loser timings but much better OC speeds at least in the 1GB module realm.
So Crucial/Micron still on top? Anyone have a working Crucial 10% coupon? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Grrrr mine are BL2KIT12864L503 just checked my invoice, I do have the option to return these to crucial and exchange for the Z503, what is the difference between the two sets?Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
I am getting the same top end performance as you I wonder if it is even worth exchanging. My office is a crucial partner so when I ordered these sticks they were for "bench" testing.
If anyone knows the differences please post everything I find shows them to be identical
The L503 are the tracers with leds thats the only difference the Z503 are regular Ballistix
It's been suggested looking at the results that the L503 may be binned better than the non tracers Z503. But its hard to say with so few results posted.
thats what i was getting too man. its like cl3 doesn't apply to this ram, its locked, lol. i think i got 270 to fly but i'll check my notes. vdimm did nothing iirc and i tire of the tref dance quickly so i didn't make a lot of progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor12
sunday i'll be back tweaking. i want to bench some 250x11 cl2 9:10 just to see and try lowering my volts to see if i can beat your 261x10 cl2.5 :p:
all in all though, i've been more than pleased with these sticks.
Can u dump more volts into them? I want to see at least 3.3 volts. I'm more interested in seeing what up to 3.5 does. That may affect my buying decision, I preordered them from fry's, $200, I can still cancel and just buy mushkin as the ocz's I was waiting for seem like a disapointment and I'm not paying 400 bucks for a set of crucial that run only 3 3 3, 400 bucks, they better friggen run at least 3 2 2. Also, u have no sig, I have no idea what u are running.Quote:
Originally Posted by W0nderb0y
Anyway to differenciate the new Tracers from the old one? I had tracers before, RMAed them cause they wouldn't even run SPD. So I got a new set from newegg, I'm wondering if I got the new ones.
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Originally Posted by kman79
There is no "New" Tracer. If u received tracers from new egg, they are the old ones.
DB Updated.
primed it over night 2.5-3-2-8 with the lower volts. ran pi32m at 2.5-3-2-6 (27:12) but it doesn't really effect bandwith from what i saw.
i'll see if i can get 265ish 2.5-3-3-8 with 2.6 +.03 volts later.
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Originally Posted by gundamit
9 or 10, I can't remember.
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Originally Posted by Major
The Tracer L503's are out of production. I'll probably take the spreaders off soon and see if the chips are still the same on the Z503's.
best timings (a64/bios) that I have found to run 290 with the z503's in this a64 shot..
db updated. :D
Excellent results !Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
What Tref are you using ? bios ? volts ? etc ?
I am running 2x1GB Mushkin Hi-Perf Blue - Infineon BE-5 | 2.5-3-2-6 1T @ 258MHz | 2.9v SPi 32M Stable: Yes
Super PI:
http://www.MyOnlineImages.com/Member...images/258.JPG
CPU-Z verify:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=30025
'bout time i see you post here ninja, lol. now i gotta validate my 260 i guess
Cool, I can go a little higher with looser timings, but I'm gonna save that for my new CPU.
XSers,
I will be building a 4400+ x2, DFI NF4 SLI-DR, EVGA 7800gtx with the new OCZ PC4000 2x1024 (from ATACOM.COM).
I am using the big typhoon for cooling and a cooler master stacker case. I am hopping to get at least 2750 @ 250.
I should have it complete weds.
I will post as soon as it is ready.
I will be running Superpi, Prime and of course the BF2.
Any one have max safe voltage and temp for the 4400?
Cheers
J
great jcom please remember to share results of that ram!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jmax01
i think 1.6volts or lower is recomended when using both cores of that cpu...
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Thanks for the info. I will put in as much detail as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by brandinb
Wish me luck :)
4400+ Retail hereQuote:
Originally Posted by jmax01
You'll do fine, I don't think the OCZ is running high clocks like the Crucial though, but at 250 you are supposed to be at least guaranteed that speed. I am at 2.7 (246x11) with XP-120 and 3x120mm 1x92mm in a Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case. Running 1.55v and 99% stable with both cores Primed all day/night, did get one error so far but that was due to AC being off all day at 83'F ambient room temp, otherwise with normal house temp of 79'F there are zero issues.
Trying 247+x11 did not work for me and I refuse to go past 1.55/1.6v just seems not worth the risk. I don't think many people are doing >2.6/2.7 on air though most are water cooling 2.8 and such. Idle temp for me is 38-39'F and 100% dual cores about 54-55'F up to 58-59'F if AC is at 83'F during the day while at work.
any nf2 results yet>?
tref 200/15.6 seems to get the best bandwithQuote:
Originally Posted by Major
16clks
2.85volts
bios 704-2
Suggestion for the DB:
If possible, could you put some basic pricing info and links to some online retailers as applicable to the modules that are showing up in the DB?
Thanks! :toast:
Pent,Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
Thanks for the 411. I have not yet seen any results for the new ocz pc4000. I know you are very active on a bunch boards have seen any posts?
Cheers,
Jmax017
Prices change so frequently, it'd be a hassle to keep up. So I'm gonna have to decline that request.Quote:
Originally Posted by Truckchase!
DB Update. :)
:)Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Please update DB
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...G1001/BEAT.jpg
I don't understand this sudden rush to adopt to a 2x1024MB config. :confused:
Isn't 4x512 at 250MHz 2-2-2-2t faster than 2x1024MB @ 250MHz 3-3-3-1t? I would think 2-3-2-2t is at least equal to 3-3-3-1t.
It has been proven time and time again, because of the A64's integrated mem controller, 1t CPC isn't as important with A64 as it was with AMD XP because of bandwith limitations. I've seen several sources that show going from 1t to 2t will result in less than a 5% hit in real world performance (could not care less about synthetic benchmark scores). Where going from 2-2-2 to 3-3-3 will result in slightly more of a hit (10%-15%?). Net result = 5%-10% hit going with 3-3-3-1t.
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Originally Posted by EnJoY
I'm sorry, I kinda misstated that... I meant more along the lines of a per user basis, so the info would be static. Optional info obviously, but when it's included it would give a general idea of what kind of money is required to get the listed sticks.
... then again, this is Xtreme Systems, and I realize that budgeting isn't on the top of most peoples priorities here. :D
4x512 positively will have to have much loser timings, case in point, I had ordered a while ago PC3500 BH-5 Corsair ram 4x512 config obviously this runs no problem 2-2-2-5 @ 200 FSB, however per Corsair's own words from support 2.5-3-3-6/7 usually is needed when running double sided fully populated memory slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by xenolith
Besides the fact my 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer config was stable 24/7 @ 282 and maxed at 289 I would say going with 2x1GB is a good idea if you have the means HUGE difference in BF2 map loading and overall smoothness, no more in flight hiccups that cause me to lose my target or crash into a tower etc.
I am not too sure about 3-3-3-8 taking that big of a performance hit like you mention, I do get 6900-6950 Sandra scores @ 246 FSB (due to 11x multi to max out CPU @ 2.7ghz) at 282 I got 7050-7100 sandra memory speeds
had both. the micron chips go significantly higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmax01
Good work. :toast: I'm going to have to try those timings and see if mine do the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
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Originally Posted by xgman
Thanks :woot:
Sorry my experiences with OCZ (bad stick of ram) and trying to get sample product for our company have been very poor, I don't invest any time into testing with them anymore. I do hear a lot of people like them though.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
I've seen a couple people reach 250 FSB @ 2-2-2-2t with 4x512 of Redline PC4000.Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
Again, I couldn't care less about Sandra scores because they're meaningless, to me. Real world apps don't see the same kind of performance disparity between low and high FSB with A64 except maybe Winrar and SuperPI, lol.
But lets say you're right, no 4x512 configs will be able to go higher than 200MHz with latency settings at 2-2-2-2t. So what? With A64, significantly higher memory FSB (i.e., say 294MHz :p: ) does not translate into significantly better system performance anyway. In fact hasn't it been proven that there's actually a real world performance gain (mainly in gaming) when using mem dividers (~200 FSB) and lower latency settings?
I know this is extreme systems, blah, blah, blah... we need to overclock everything 'til it bleeds, lol. But wouldn't us "extreme" members also want to concentrate on maximizing our overlocks where it would do the most good, lower memory latencies, faster CPUs, and faster video cards?
I understand the new need for 2GB's of good memory, but please tell me what I'm missing with all this rush for a higher memory FSB at the sacrifice of lower latencies.
At some point higher htt compensates for lower latencies.
That's probably true, but at what point? Whether we're talking high freq. or low latency, the real app performance differences are very small to the point of not being noticeable.
3-4-4 timings are hard to get to perform well, even at 300mhz and above. However, 3-3-3 isn't so bad, and at around 280MHz...I think we see performance on par with 2-2-2 at 255-260mhz or so.
I don't understand these results in this review below in the face of what we are seeing in this thread:
http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?o...tid=163&page=9
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Originally Posted by xgman
Well, let me be the first to try to replicate them.. I just picked up the Corsair modules. (got a great deal too: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 )
You guys will be the first to know my results. I requested that the seller charge me for 2 day shipping so I can get them before the weekend.
Good luck !! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Truckchase!
Well is it faster than 250mhz 2.5-3-2-1t?Quote:
Originally Posted by xenolith
maybe he not used the -2 bios for the DFI. isnt it recomend for the crucial's on DFI ? i today ordered the corasir 3200C2, hope they rock BF2 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by xgman
sorry for bad english
Anyone have any experience with the OCZ4002048V3DC-K 2 gig kit from OCZ? This guy http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=397425 was able to get them up to 252 with CAS 2.5 and the memory is less than $200 here at newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146841
The codes he read off the chips were as follows:
X4I120840B-50
G64Mx8 DDR
0526
Looks too good to be true? Any idea who makes this memory? I'm thinking about going for it, since it's so cheap...
EDITL: EDIT: Here's his response to an email from me:
in center (inbetween the 8 chips on one side)
BP MLL
E186014
94v-0
and in the top right hand corner of one side it says:
B64808 - is this a brainpower PCB?!?
can we get a db update please?
Team,
I receivced the new ocz pc4000 1024mb el dual ch gold edition (ocz5002048belgek) arrived today. The rest of the parts showed but I missed fedex! Should get them tomorrow and start the build tomorrow. I hope these give the tracers a run. The DB is starting to look a little stepford.
he used a 623 bios. Not sure which one. Probably had a bad set of sticks I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by psycho303
Anyone else playing with the unbinned crucial valueram 2x1G sticks? Any recent performance results?
just picked up some TCCD...too good of a deal, and I didn't want to be the first NF2 guy to play with the micron chips...I haven't had good luck being the first to try memory (Mushkin blues = no workie 1T on NF2 :( ).
Hey, you've got a KX18D Pro II also. What's your max FSB? I've gotten 235 with my maybe-its-UTT geil value ram, but TCCD is en route to see how high she'll go. Also, love my ALX 800/SF2 combo...keep it around 4k for livable cooling :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bushmeal
This topic is about 1Gb modules, not 2x512modules or talking about your 'other' stuff.
Please try to keep on topic as it just makes the information harded to sift through
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Originally Posted by Jericho
Actually it's about running 2x1gb sticks on a64's....and not much else...should be renamed....
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Originally Posted by jmax01
GREAT!! show us your results as soon as you can!!
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DB Updated. Sorry for the wait, been busy...
Updated, but you missed me? Anyway here are my results again:Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
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Originally Posted by NinjaWreck
DB Updated.
Sorry about that, it was actually in there before so I must have accidentally deleted it while adding nugzo's and unreal's new scores.
So it looks like they all appear to be using either Micron or Infineon chips. So wouldn't one have pretty much the same chance of overclockability no matter what kit they bought? For example, compare these 4 kits from OCZ:
OCZ Platinum Series 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM System Memory (OCZ4001024ELPE)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227209
OCZ Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Kit System Memory (OCZ4002048PFDC-K)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146970
OCZ Value Series 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory (OCZ4002048V3DC-K)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146841
OCZ DDR PC-3500 Dual Channel (OCZ4332048PFDC-K)
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...0_dual_channel
I mean, don't these all use the Infineon chips? Wouldn't it make sense just to buy the cheapest pair? Or is there something with the PCB's that sets one apart from the other?
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Originally Posted by THE JEW (RaVeN)
The chips are speed binned (tested) and the best are used in the better more exspensive memory. In most cases.
I know the Mushkin High Perf Blue use the Brainpower PCB. I'm pretty sure that the OCZ Platinum do also.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE JEW (RaVeN)
OCZ claims their value 1GB uses Elida, but a guy from another form that ordered from a UK vendor got chips with BE-5 on them with a brainpower PCB. Think I should believe OCZ, or would they just tell me that so I'd buy their higher end stuff? Has anyone actually seen a 1GB stick with Elida chips? I haven't.
UPDATE AGAINQuote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
:D :D :Dhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...001/295FSB.jpg
Un-real, Unreal! :)
4x1GB 260x11=2860,going for 265x11=2915 prime stable on air,
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/show...4&postcount=27
Need CPU-Z verified Unreal.
And wow, 4x1GB in A64...that is just nuts!