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Originally Posted by pershoot
Same issues for me MS, system acts totally different with UTT than with TCCD. With UTT my 10x doesn't work well, nor do dividers (0510-2) and with TCCD 10x and 11x are fine as are dividers however RAM that used to clock to 283Mhz now tops out at 250 or so (0510-3). Dunno if its BIOS related, weird mem controller, or what, all I know is these new CPUs require a TON of tweaking to get mem OCs stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Slaughter
I agree with your LL mem theory too, took me two weeks to get my damn TCCD stable.
Help!
Why can´t i go above htt300 ? Using 510-3 right now with my ocz pc3200 rev2. Can it be the bios or just a memorysetting at that high. Everything under htt300 works perfectly.
notch up max async and read preamble. if on -3, try 9/../10-6/6.5/8.5, LDT: 2.5/2 >300 HTT
Turbodream , set LDT to 3 max...
I kinda tried that. Mabye I'll reread it and try it again with toast. I do know my seti BOINC times go up almost 1000s if I drop to 1.65v.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dread-Star
Eric
Yours? On my water setup I'm reading 39-40C full load or about 10C over stock volts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dread-Star
Eric
Extremely hot. It was probably close to 85f in that room over the weekend. The only time its around 76-78f or lower is either winter or while I'm sleeping. So 40C full load in a hot room at 1.67v :) Add 5C because that is what I believe it is off by. My biggest problem is the mosfets. I've tied a fan to the tubing right above them. They were wanting to go over 60C... now I've not seen them break 50C. I have a Swiftech 6002 and a Bonneville heatercore (dual 120mm fans). I'm chatting with someone about building me a single stange phase change system but that will likely be the end of the year or early next.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dread-Star
Eric
Lets just see what happens when I rip everything out and include my GPU though. Although its not the hottest GPU out there (X800XL). But I'm also removing the reservoir and putting the CPU directly after the heatercore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dread-Star
Eric
Man that sucks :( U shoud get rid of that chip , sell it or something . I had 2750MHz on my crapy Winchester 3000+ CBBID with my Vapo :D I know it sucks that Monarch would not refund any CPU's :mad: I will suggest to RMA it and if they ask why tell that it BSOD's or something and i am possitive that they will replace it with another one ;) 2700MHz @ Vapo is not acceptable :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Unrealcpu
yeh rma...kill it with static first. take it out, hold in your hand and rub your feet on some carpet with socks on. puts a bunch of power to it and then it wount boot if its dead. they wount know because no physical damage occoured so then they rma it and your can be guaranteed a new one! :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorod
.....................that is horribleQuote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
If that's how you do business then "YOU'RE A THIEF."Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
This forum is going downhill fast.
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Originally Posted by stealth17
Man DON'T DO THAT! That just causes the prices of hardware to increase at our expense! Sell it off on eBay! Trust me, I have sold off plenty of processors on eBay. You need a good 'ol :slapass: if thats how you do business...
hey hey now kids...i didnt say "i" do that now did i?
yes selling it on ebay would be better. im just telling you another way rmaing can be done
Then why encourage others to?Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
hey if they want that guilt than so be it :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by RAMMIE
What an attitude!Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
lol no pun intended...im on your side guys. i wanna keep amd's prices down too! :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by RAMMIE
got a 3700+ San Diego last week....just start playing with
ADA3700DAA5BN
CABGE 0517UPAW
http://anarchb.free.fr/421%20cpumark.200552063423.jpg
http://anarchb.free.fr/3700+%20@3405...0552063717.jpg
phase-change or DI i assume?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boogotop
Mach 2 GTQuote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
YES! you might wanna take a look at my thread over at EOCFQuote:
Originally Posted by Dread-Star
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...d.php?t=171646
im ganna burn some more tonight and try to get down to 1.5v stable or better. i never really believed the old burn it in thing untill now. its s simpily AMAZING! :clap: :clap: :clap:
glad to hear!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dread-Star
as a side note, i run different programs. i dunno if it makes a difference but im sure it wouldnt hurt. what i mean is Toast for example just calculates a bunch of numbers. so ill run that for 5 hours or so, then run sandra and in the burn-in wizard run the arithmatic and multi-media burn-ins so that it stress another part of the cpu. you can also run S&M for lvl 1 and 2 cache burn in. between all of those, you should be able to stress many parts of the cpu so it unlease its potential! :banana:
I was having issues with my DFI ut board and so I bought a second one and installed it yesterday. After a few hrs of testing with it I managed to get 1.6 stable at 2860 mhz where as I had to be @ 1.72 with other board. To say the least I am rmaing the other one. I might try this burn in thing but I have had this cpu for a little while now and I am not sure if it would even benefit me at this point. Worth a try tho. I do leaving it running 24/7 folding which stresses it out some.
Can you give us some real impressive 25hr Prime95 clocks now :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dread-Star
2.8GHz+ I mean :D
I was going to drop down to 1.648v but decided it was more fun to stay at 1.67 and redo the burnin at 2.85Ghz instead of 2.81 :) Lets see if I can get that stable before dropping to 1.648v. Hmm. Last night prime ran for 4 minutes. Now I get 6. I do notice benchmarks went up. I was getting 5740ish in pcmark2004 last night (stable 2.81 gets me 5713). Now I got 5803. Superpi 1m dropped from about 29.65 to 29.39. I think I stopped short last time when it got to the part where it became less stable.
Eric
hey dont forget prime and OCCT for the complete burn in. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
i just ordered some UTT BH5 (OCZ EL Gold 3200). I want to test this theory out of needing lesser voltage (VID wise) and getting higher clocks (cpu wise) with UTT based memory on SD cores.
Will report my observations once I get the ram.
wish me luck:)
longing for y results! i m one of those who believe that SD cores show a strange preference to some type of memory. Of course it maybe is a bios related issue and not related to the SD cores
good luck of course!
yeah i think its ture.my vx with this 3700sd only need 3.45V to reach 260 1.5-2-2 whereas with the 3200 winchester they needed about 3.55V for same.
Test and list your memtest BW @ teh same FSB x multi (don't have to use the max values for this comparison either - easier :D ) and same timings.
I find that Vdimm seems more related to BW then just FSB (chips will need more Vdimm if mem ctlr runs more MBs/sec through @ a given setup).
:toast:
I believe the SD core doesnt like TCCD ram much. I have same ram here and it wont remain as stable as it did with my 3200 winny. I think its going to take some bios tweaking to get this all working right IMO.
I got a 3700 last week. Great chip for Vapo or water cooling.
First I tryed at my friends house on his Vapo LS. We where running 3D at 3300MHz with only 1.5V.
I then put it on my -90C cascade and DFI mobo. I had problems, the board wigged out.
Then I switched over to my MSI SLI mobo and there was no problem with the Cold issue. Although I did have to use W2k and Ricky tweak though. It would freeze up in my XP OS. Problem with the MSI is that it has problems going high FSB, 300 was almost impossable.
I then put it in my everyday DFI Swiftech watercooling rig. Overclocks nicely, I run it at 336x9 3025Mhz 1.45V. That 336 is running 1:1 1T by the way. I have some killer OCZ memory here:D
OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=31103&stc=1
I use the 1.25 Bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dread-Star
I run 2 seperate raid setups on this rig. 3x Raptors and 2x Some other kind of sata drives, forgot the make:D
I Love this rig.
OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=31106&stc=1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=31107&stc=1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=31108&stc=1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=31109&stc=1
I check out HB pier a good 4 times a week my friend. I know all about the bikinis:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dread-Star
OPP
I left the vcore at 1.67 and upped the speed to 2.85Ghz. That was enough for about 4 minutes in prime. After running toast all night prime ran for 6 minutes. I'll try again tonight to see whats up. I was about to run 4 burnin programs at the same time but that locked the system ;) If this works does anyone see anything wrong trying 2.9Ghz before lowering vcore? :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dread-Star
Eric
i wouldnt try to burn it that way. that overclock might be your ram making it unstable who knows. so run a clock you know works 100% stable, then lower the voltage until its just enough to boot into windows and run a app..then burn it for 10 hours or so!Quote:
Originally Posted by ewitte
remember, it may actually take a week or so of over 10 hours a day burning before you notice any difference
keep her burning! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dread-Star
Hmz... Haven't seen my "burning" question around here yet: It it better to "burn" 10h/day or burn in 24/7 once? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
When you do it 1/day you'll maybe drop the voltage after 2 days and burn again? Uhh??? :p:
You can always bump the ram down to 100Mhz :) Usually memtest fails on me pretty quickly if I go off too far.Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
Eric
On my old Clawhammer I would exit out of prime after 2-3 minutes ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dread-Star
*subscribing*Quote:
Originally Posted by Dread-Star
This is interesting. I had always kinda thought of burning in like this to be kinda like weight training... but lack of patience always had me upping the volts until it got stable, rather than running bare minimum volts and MAKING it be stable.
Toast'ing at 10x280, 1.475v * 110% (1.6v in BIOS, 1.58v in CPU-Z). Running for an hour now, and no blue screen so far. Will let it run until this time tomorrow, and then see how long it'll prime.
here is another bit of advice on burnin. go say 10 hours or 12 hours on bare minimum that will boot into windows without immediate crash. then when that time is up, reboot and try to take it down another notch. if its stable enough to burn it at the voltage, try another step lower untill you reached bare minimum again. then burn awhile longer
does anyone know how brittle the core is with the IHS off? is it like the old aXP cores or is it more brittle?
-Jordan
That's the max I've seen. I saw a 3505 on the forum. If you can get that screenie, I would think you would be able to get a little more out of your superpi max (great score BTW). I think the best screenie I can get is around 3430 or 3420, but I can pass superpi @ 3339mhz.
Turbodream, that's a nice score you have there for your cpu clocks. What's your VC at?
I think it was around 1,73VQuote:
Originally Posted by BMORIN
What is everyone getting prime stable on single evap?
I`m at 287x11 on a Vapo LS, 1m SuperPi stabil, and runs most 3D benchs at 291x11 for 3.2GHz, I don`t run prime95 much anymore.
im using vapochill PE currently at 265 x 11 stable. Still more in it though just trying this burn method now. My 3700 was prime stable at 2920mhz at 1.52 volts out of the box but wont do much more even if i up the voltage to 1.7.
http://suckasd.com/computer/sandiego/sandiego.jpg
That's the highest max i've been able to find, anyone know of a 3700+ higher?[/QUOTE]
Sucka what is your CPU date /stepping???
Hey guys, just started Sentential's burn in method,running near my max overclock (on asetek waterchill, yeh distinctly un-Xtreme for these forums :) ), after an overnight burn in its removed 0.034 volts in BIOS (0.025 increment with 136% over VID setting)
**Edit** Better say what the CPU actually is, its a CABGE0516TPAW. It now boots into windows at 2.5GHz with stock voltage, something it would never do before.
CABGE 0515SPMWQuote:
Originally Posted by Unrealcpu
Done in case, 80°F room temp ;)
how are your temps under load? And what do you define as stable? I don't consider 1m to be stable.
What's your max stable 24/7 clock? If you can run games/prime 24 hours, I'd consider it stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sucka
Looks like you got a good chip!
Yea, Info on temps would be great...and anything else have you
I don't run the machine 24/7 and i certainly don't run prime. It does 3D at 3280~ and other benches at 3330~ or higher. Being that it is not a daily machine, stability isn't as important to me as my daily rig. It's on a Mach II unmodded, temps with 1.7v are evap -50 idle, -39 load, cpu is around -18 idle, -10 loaded or somewhere there abouts. My 3500+ Venice is very similar to this chip, did just about the exact same clocks. Any other info you want?
well guys, I just got my sandiego today, cabge 0517 upaw, wish me luck, heh. About to test it out right now. It'll be going under a g5 soon.
Finally...
3700 0511 XPAW arrived today :D
Batch No 101.
Priming @ 280×10, 1.65V. Temps (WC) are very good (45°C full load) compared to my Venice with these roomtemps! 25°C +
Let's prime and :toast:
Here are two pics of my Venice running 2800 and my San Diego also at 2800 on the same machine. Both 100% stable. Note the Vcore needed for the Venice compared to SD. However the SD is not 100% stable even at 1.6V and much hotter..
http://pages.infinit.net/claude50/AUTRES/2800Venice.jpg
http://pages.infinit.net/claude50/AUTRES/sd-2800.jpg
Just to my my last statement clearer... :-) San Diego will run much faster than the Venice but is NOT 100% stable at the higher speeds. Both are Prime stable at 2800 but the Venice needs more Vcore but also give off less heat.... go figure ! :stick:
I will try to stablelise it at 2900 later.
Good god man, you have to do something about those wicked fonts :)
Sucka, I have exact same stepping as you and cooled on a MachII as well and I'm bench '01 at EXACTLY the same - 3285mhz. I can do superpi @ 3339 and my best superpi is 24.7. Interesting to know that this cpu seems to be a pretty consistent performer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sucka
Hi
I bought a new system composed by:
Board - DFI LanParty nForce4 SLI-DR
CPU - AMD San-Diego 4000
Mems - 2x512 Mushkin DDR Dual Channel PC4000 2-2-2
PSU - Aerocool Aeropower II + SE 550W
Wich the best settings to mems Mushkin DDR Dual Channel PC4000 2-2-2 Redline+DFI LanParty nForce4 SLI-DR+AMD San-Diego 4000, WC by Thermaltake Bigwater, and as far I can go with security, please give me some hints, because is mine first time with AMD systems :confused:
all the help is well coming :banana:
Thx
PS - sorry bad english
EDIT - PM please :welcome:
Download A64 tweaker to adjust ram timings. Make sure you've got at least 3.2v pumping throught that ram. I have a post somewhere in this thread that gives a screenie of my redline timings in a64.
ohoh nice
cooling please?
your first FX-55 is .09µ?
let see some ram bandwidth. I know the redline ram aint good for it though. Try some gskill.
Dumo, I think that's the fastest 90nm superpi I've seen so far. My best is 24.7 @ 3339MHZ. Good job. Maybe the fx's are just a little better clockers
Ok, this is the Official San Diego Overclocking Thread. Why are people posting their FX-55 Sledgehammer overclocks?
lol
They are San Diegos, CPU-Z doesn't recognize them correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by quijonsith
ok guys, I ran some initial benches with my sandeigo, I really did this just for a comparison of timings, I need to do a fresh install to to do any serious stuff, I recently deleted some stuff and it's messing up my install. so.....these may not be accurate, but at least they are consistent that they are on the same messed up os, all in all, I also need to state that the sandiego feels quicker than my winne, and this is a real world difference that is noticable. I'm sure this is due to the extra 512k on the chip. :)
using 310 official bios for these runs and a vaillia gigabyte 6600
sandra benches at 250x8 with 2.5 3 3 7, 1t = 6323, 2t yielded only 5771
1t 2001se 3dmark's @ 2.5-3-3-7 250x9 = 16,128
1t 2001se 3dmark's @ 2.5-3-3-7 205x11 = 15780
(not exactly the same mhz, but you can deff. see the difference in 3dmarks)
the purpose of this was to see if there was actually any effect that htt spd had on gaming performance and 1t vs 2t, that was really all the info I needed for this cpu to know what I needed to have for htt spd and 1t or 2t. After the fresh install, I will do 3dmark runs of highest 2 2 2 @ 1t, then see how much 2.5 3 3 at 2t of htt I will need to get roughly the same 3dmark score, if you do a search, someone else has alrdy done this, but I need to do this for my system :) Then I'll know exactly what's what for tccd and utt, as these are the 2 sets of ram everyone is comparing.
Heres..Quote:
Originally Posted by quijonsith
http://img270.echo.cx/img270/248/screenshot0592qn.jpg
Thas one freaquin nice CPu you got ther Formann:)
wow it looks like the new SD are clocking higher and higher
wow, very nice. Fastest san diego superpi I've seen so far. What is your cooling? Dry Ice? Am I reading that right?
awesome fredyama!
btw, i have your processors brother...
;-)
hi, may i know whats ur full load temp with that asetek waterchill? i am also using that watercooling ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomicpineapple
thx!
Got 2 Sandys 3700+ 0516WPAW, serial number in series. Had very little time to play with one of them last night on Thermaltake Sonic Tower aircooling. Keeping the memory speed down, it completed SuperPi 1M at 2500 Mhz. Then, 2700Mhz 1.55 Vcore in bios was a no go, 2800Mhz with Clockgen got an immediate reboot. I'll try more, of course, but it doesn't look too encouraging right now...
mrlobber bad news i think on air a 3Dmark run at 2750 @ 1.7 it's your best shot. Crappy series 0516WPAW tried 2 of them myself.
Yeah, seems to be so. Tried both cpu's, none of them was able to complete SuperPi 1M higher than 2500 Mhz with default Vcore (keeping the memory speed down), and higher than 2680 Mhz with 1.6Vcore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyklon5
I had same issues as you did with the vcore and ocing. Then I got another DFI ultra D and now I can do 2905 mhz 100% stable @ 1.6vcore. I am sure it has to do with the VRs on some of these boards not being as stable. DFI said that they would RMA my old board without issue. Just a thought for ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlobber
^Dumo, is that an LS, or some sort of cascade setup that you are getting this speed??
I was worried about the FX55BN having a cold bug, but from the looks of it it shouldn't be a problem..
Its LS.
And welcome to XS....hope youll enjoy :toast:
And so far with single stage, 55BN have no problem...
Hm, an idea to consider. Anyway, I bought one of these cpu's for a friend (not that he would now be very happy right now about it :rolleyes: :D ), so he will test it on his DFI anyway, maybe something interesting pops out indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazykooter
Well mine runs 3d mark stable up to 2800 and benches sisoft and prime to almost 2900. I am using the boxed cooler! and AS5. I see temps max at 44 under load. I am running 1.6 volts for all of my benching. I am running a NEO platinum 2 board and I can't seem to figure out how to get it to run 1t timings. I have HYnix D43 that does 270 stable with 2.5,4,4,8 timings. The best I have gotten in 3d01 so far is just 31200. I have a really nice overclocking vid card too. x800xt AIW that does 573 on air and no mods. I know I would see a big increase with 1t timing.....Help. A64 tweaker?
Hmm, looking good so far... :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
but what about stability? What is possible in terms of stability? :D
I am curious, been thinking about if these new fx could be better... than mine :D
Thanks :)
That's an awesome score for an LS!
Anyway, :slobber: , im looking forward to building MY rig with this thing.
should have it up later this week, if all goes well.
My Venice had same issues, wouldn't boot at anything over 2.5-2.6G. Same for my SD.
There maybe some breakin time like a day @ highest stable speed on OCCT ( match max mem to your system) and see if that helps?
I have some more experiments to try tomorrow :hrhr:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Formann
JESUS Forman :slobber: ....thats a seriusly nice peace of silicon you have....damn thats some nice clocks for that amount of vcore....can she do more with more power??? :toast:
Quote:
Originally Posted by SIOUX
Im kinda happy .. yes. 3400+ Mhz is a 1200Mhz OC and not too bad :)
I can do 3350Mhz rock stable @ 1.5v .. more voltage does´t help very much. With watercooling it tops out at 1.45-1.5
I need to remove the HS, and add some more r507. I might get 3500Mhz 1M stable.
But what if I wreck the chip when mounting the evap... :O
Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone could give me an esitimate of around what temps I should be getting with my 3700+ SD under water with a 6800U being cooled in the loop, right now at stock speeds I'm getting 39C idle with my gpu at 51C idle, is that normal as far as for the cpu?
I get about that with 1.7v (31-50C). I have GPU in the loop and the same chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by uniacid
With my setup I'm idling around 29 C and loading around 41 C with 1.53v with normal ambient/room temps. During a really hot summer with the same voltage I'd load around 48 C.Quote:
Originally Posted by uniacid
Nice, man :up: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
What's your actual 24/7 clocks? I am interested in a gaming stable 3.3-3.4 :D
Hmmm... 51 IDle on GPU ? :confused: I dont get that under full load and idle around 40 C . What kind of watercooling is that ? :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by uniacid
My second 3700+ with a messed up dfi under DI
Couldnt even get a suicide above these speeds :D, next thursday i have a second motherboard
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../untitled1.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuperman
he yeh worng palce there buddy :stick:
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cpu-z verification
thermalright xp-120 + panaflo 120mm, 0512 mpmw, 1.325 x 110%, 3.3v vdimm
You think the San Diego is better than the 3800 Venice? Would i get better oc from a SD?
Where are you guys getting the SuperPi sse3 tweak because I cant get near what yall are with same speed but bh-5 at 264 2-2-2-5.