Yet. They're supposed to be coming out with an nForce4 AGP board. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by evilentity
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Yet. They're supposed to be coming out with an nForce4 AGP board. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by evilentity
Native, bridged pci-e, or is it going to be on the pci bus?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnbns
It seems I was slightly mistaken. The board will, in fact, utilize the nForce3 chipset, meaning no bridge of any kind is required.Quote:
Originally Posted by evilentity
Linkage to further infos:
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5112
Thanks, I guess its good that I'm still a couple months away from my next upgrade, venice chips and these boards should have normalized by then.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnbns
nothing new??
Can you POWERCOLOR X800XL owners do me a favour , which model do you have ?
PowerColor X800 XL
R43C-TVD3D
this supposed to be this one
http://www.tul.com.tw/global/product...2=124&cat3=324
but all i can get here is this model
PowerColor R43C-TD3
Radeon X800XL, 256MB DDR
PCI-Express, 256MB GDDR3, TV-out, 400/490 MHz, 256 bit, 16 Pipes, Retail
should i be worried ?
thanks
And if POWERCOLOR models do have tempetaure sensors and fan speed control thru ATI TOOL ?
it dosent have video in and out and only one dvi connector if i remember correct. should still have power connector and 1.6 ram
Mine is continuing to burn in, its now stable at 472.5/598, and I can bench at 480/605Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
EDIT:
With rivatuner instead of atitool, I'm able to game at 472.5/611, and bench at 475/620.
basically D-SUB + DVI + video out ? or just D-SUB + DVI or something like that ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pancake
hi
...is ti true that I can run higher clocks with Rivatuner? I only tryed ATI-Tool.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3867855
cu fire113.
A DFI rep just told me that these are expected in June. So it looks like the Neo2 will be the best option for at least another quarter.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnbns
so what to buy x800/x800se/x800xl?
XL definitally
Why are there some X800 XL's that are using 392MHz/700MHz stock?
http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=.../2DTV&langs=09
gpu speed seems about right. On all XL cards the speed isn't dead set on 400mhz but late 300's. The memory speed is a good 150mhz less though!
Yeah, and that thing also costs around $410 on NewEgg. Poor, poor ASUS.
I just hit 5600 in '05 at 577/625
I'm getting a new power supply tomorrow, so I hope that'll help me get a little bit more.
dont you mean 477 gpu?
Ive got my running at 560 :D
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=757855
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eradicator
we still knew ;) its AMAZING! :toast: (no its not a X850XTPE ist a XL!)
but now here its getting warmer and warmer every day not so perfect :) but i ll keep it up!
seEn
How have you got your core to run at 560mhz?? Is tht being cooled by phasechange or DI?? Wht voltage are u running? Have you done both the GPU mods??Quote:
Originally Posted by Eradicator
Answer, answers, answers please?
Their was already another guy claiming speeds over 520mhz who turned out to be a fake, not implying tht you are, but could you please inform us on how you got your core so high???
-EDIT-
Ok just checked your futuremark linky
'X800XL R22 Cooled 560/615'
xplains alot, heheheee, nice one
:D
Yup, see my avatar, both phasers in one case, no messy DI or anything like that, I just crack up the volts and cards speed and run my benches.. That was ran at 1.68v on the gpu and I do not have a vdimm mod, I need one bad though, my vcore mod was done by a friend, I dont trust myself with a soldering Iron (nothing like a brazing torch, LOL).. The higher I run the core, the lower I have to drop the ram, wierd? I can bench the ram at ~630, but I have to drop the core way way down? Wierd thing is though, I get a lockup before I ever see a single artifact? And Im afraid to go any higher with the volts, Do not want to kill my card considering this is my 24/7 rig and not a benching rig..Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
Hey guys, what do you think about this score ?
Athlon FX 55, A8N-SLI Deluxe, 1GB Corsair 1024-3200XL and powercolor x800xl
All stock except FSB at 203 and the video card. I set the video card with the peg link option "faster" in bios.
Everest 3.10 Info:
Field Value
CPU Properties
CPU Type AMD Athlon 64 FX-55
CPU Alias ClawHammer S939
CPU Stepping SH7-CG
CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon(tm) 64 FX-55 Processor
CPUID Revision 00000F7Ah
CPU Speed
CPU Clock 2639.43 MHz
CPU Multiplier 13.0x
CPU FSB 203.03 MHz (original: 200 MHz)
Memory Bus 203.03 MHz
CPU Cache
L1 Code Cache 64 KB (Parity)
L1 Data Cache 64 KB (ECC)
L2 Cache 1 MB (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)
Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID 03/03/2005-NF-CK804-A8N-SLI-00
Motherboard Name Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe (3 PCI, 2 PCI-E x1, 2 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Dual Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)
Chipset Properties
Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce4 SLI, AMD Hammer
Memory Timings 2-2-2-5 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Command Rate (CR) 1T
SPD Memory Modules
DIMM1: Corsair CMX512-3200XL 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.0-2-2-5 @ 200 MHz)
DIMM2: Corsair CMX512-3200XL 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.0-2-2-5 @ 200 MHz)
BIOS Properties
System BIOS Date 03/03/05
Video BIOS Date 12/15/04
Award BIOS Type Phoenix - Award BIOS v6.00PG
Award BIOS Message ASUS A8N-SLI DELUXE ACPI BIOS Revision 1006
DMI BIOS Version ASUS A8N-SLI DELUXE ACPI BIOS Revision 1006
Graphics Processor Properties
Video Adapter PowerColor Radeon X800 XL
GPU Code Name R430 (PCI Express x16 1002 / 554D, Rev 00)
GPU Clock 412 MHz (original: 400 MHz, overclock: 3%)
Memory Clock 506 MHz (original: 490 MHz, overclock: 3%)
Using A64 Tweaker with the settings on the pic:
http://img214.echo.cx/img214/7541/3d...deocomp.th.jpg
I want it to be almost or at stock settings.
Not so XTREME :D
Crisao23
Someone needs to put the GPU under water or pelt cooling plz...
yeah if someone would give me a x800xl i could finish my homemade waterblock :p: and test itQuote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmage
Why in hell would you wan't to run it stock, seems like refusing a bonus from the boss to me :stick: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Crisao23
my X800 XL is water cooled... 470 core no vmods.. my last one didnt respond to vmods... wouldnt boot.. then i shorted 2 resistors with multimeter probe .. sparks followed then card death... anyone actually vmodded a connect3d sucesfully yet?????
Ouch, sorry to hear about the bad luck.. Exactly why I do not trust my self with a soldering iron on a $250+ piece of hardware.... Hope you get it figured out, Im sure there is someone here that has volt modded that particular card...Quote:
Originally Posted by pancake
Good luck
Yeah, sorryQuote:
Originally Posted by reject
Any mods to connect X800XL? Pancake did u find?
no . board looks the same though so ill give it another try when i got time
is it true that X800XL doesnt have PS 3.0 ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
Yes, no ATI card has PS 3.0 yet.
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.......will they enable them with new drivers or is it impossible on X800XL ?
Thanks
well i'm selling my XFX 6600GT PCIE 128MB and getting POWERCOLOR X800XL...Am i mad ?
HI
I think it´s impossible! to active/change PS 2.0 to 3.0 with new Drivers.
...ok --->I gave My x800xl-GPU 1,72Volt but I cant´t run without artefacts over 509 GPU :( and I won´t use mor Volts! but the temps are very well :)
29°C Idle and 36-37°C under pressure and inviroment max. @40°C
I think my GPU is not soo good :(
ok regards Fire113.
As fire113 said, enabling them via drivers won't be possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
I'll get myself a x800xl as soon as Venice will be available to me so i won't call you mad on this one :D
Hey Eradicator,Quote:
Originally Posted by Eradicator
I wouldnt worry too much abt the voltage, my 492 runs need 1.75v to run.
:eek:
The temps are also good, with my fans on full whack the core doesnt go over 40C. I think the core has run out of steam, from 475mhz onwards the increase in voltage needed to run a few more mhz is alot higher than at lower mhz.
I also dont get hardlocks but i get a distorted screen, like back in the day with the 9500's which had bad pipes, i get like checkerboard effect and need to reboot.
Dont know if anybody else is experiencing this, I want to know if anybody has done the overcurrent protection mod on the GPU, maybe this is my problem???
Oh anybody know if their is a way to post score without having 3dmark01 installed? I am not on the net and want to upload a 32k+ score. I tried putting 3dmark01 on a disk which and running from this, which works at home, but the library computers do not have dx8.1 so the app wont load
:rolleyes:
last question :
does X800XL have temp. monitoring etc ? :=)
Yup through rivatuner and atitoolQuote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
coool :P
MY NEW GFX :)
any ideas which cooler to get ? :=)
http://img226.echo.cx/img226/4195/x800xl15ow.jpg
http://img226.echo.cx/img226/11/x800xl36ht.jpg
http://img226.echo.cx/img226/9536/x800xl47xc.jpg
http://img226.echo.cx/img226/2007/x800xl56vs.jpg
as you can see it doesnt have even power connector :(Quote:
Originally Posted by pancake
So how does it performs?Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
don't have it pyschically yet...on wednesday-thursday.....hehe....friend bought it for me in austria etc....
hi guys
...can´t believe what I saw ---> My ram is running @635 :) but I can´t run GPU over 509 ;(
cu fire113.
Don't worry about it, a LOT of non power connector/2.0nS cards FLY!! Mine does like 550/615...Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
which cooler you suggest charlie ? :)
yea charlie. What should I do to cool my BBA x800xl. NV Silencer 5 or save for water. Ah nm, water it is :P
AC Silencer5 is good, so is the little Zalman...Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
Do the Vmod, up to about 1.5v on air... should be good for 460/575...maybe better ;)
C
I second the Zalman, it only dropped my temps about 5-7 degrees, but the temps were very low(36 idle, 65 load) to start with. Now they're around 34 idle, 59 load after the volt mod. The move to decent ramsinks seems to have given me about 25 Mhz more on the ram, as I can go to about 605 without artifacts, and before was getting about 580 before the card hard locked.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
AC Silencer seems big for me.....so ZALMAN VF700ALCU or CU fits ?
I have never done a volt mod before. Charlie, I know you are all about the pencil mod which I am interested in cause it seems easy and non solder based. Would you mind giving me/us the info on exactly what you did and where you got your info to follow from while doing the mod? Pictures, article or perhaps a short tutorial written by yourself or someone else? I have an ATI silencer 5 coming and my core can barely do 430 with stock volts. I would really like to do more but I will admit I am new to volt modding and a little scared. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
Here ya go for the voltmods......
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=2184
I saw that link. Thank you. I am just unsure exactly where and how to draw the pencil marks on the resistor. If anyone could be so kind as to load those pictures up in paint to draw exactly what to do and where it would be greatly appreciated. I know most people know what they are doing on this site and for most things I do however, I have no shame in admitting when I don't know something and need some help. Just really can't afford to break something I am not 100% assured of.
I second that. Would like to do pencil mod but dont want to make a 300$ mistake
I agree, the forum link seems a little better than the guide, but would be nice if someone made a guide for dumies (like me)
Feels like im talkin to myself sometimes, hasnt anybody got anything to say abt this???
and this........Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
What exactly is the overcurrent limit on the XL's? I have benched mine up to 1.73v and havent had a problem with OVP kicking in.. How much volts do you plan on giving the core?, Im actually a little afraid to give it anymore, even though Im phase changing cooling mine and temps are not an issue? So far between 1.68v and 1.73v has not let me go any further, my core seems maxed at 560mhz..Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
As far as the 3dmark submitting, maybe someone else can help you there...
I won't do pencil mods... they're uncontrollable and sloppy.
C
Well, it looks like this is all she'll do folks
478/625
I hit 11202 in '03, but forgot to take a screen shot.
I need a new processor and motherboard. :)
I knew the XL was going to be popular but 470 replies :eek: ...
Regards
Andy
hmm anyone running x800xtpe speed after vmod?
eradicator with 560 on core :D
Well im maxing out at 492mhz, with 1.65v i can bench at 485mhz, upping Vgpu by 0.10 volts to 1.75 is only gaining me 7mhz! So im wondering if the overcurrent protection is kicking in, or Ive just reached the limit of the core. Thats why I am interested to see if anybody tried the overcurrent mod, seeing tht you seem to be having exactly the same results as me with regards to increase in mhz between 1.68-1.73v, maybe this will 'release' our cores.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eradicator
:D
Well doesnt look to be a way to upload a score without having app, am going to ask a friend to upload for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eradicator
I put my radiator near the open window so I can stay under 30°C under pressure and GPU Idle@19°C :)
I went back with voltage from 1,75--to-->1,63! with 1,75 I get ~509 Mhz now with 1,63Volt I get 515 ! I put My GPU-ram under water ;) from 621 to 635 with lower voltage.
I´ll try again to get higher with the GPU maybe with this temps and 1,75 V I can get ~520-530.<---hope so.
ok best regards fire113.
Good work their fire113,Quote:
Originally Posted by fire113
Not a bad clocking card you get there, from my experience good cores allow your ram to overclock more. Tis the first sign of a good core, ofcourse this is not always the case, but is a good starting point.
Not been fortunate enuff to hit a big clocker first time in recent times with gfx cards. Im sure their are some magic cores out their tht could have 520mhz in them with good watercooling. Youve got some sweet ram, by the way :). 635mhz is sweet
:banana:
hi heres a pic
...damm.... one of the gluepads for the coolingheads fellt off :(
next week I´ll get a "holder" for the ramcooler.
ok cu fire113.
http://www.salzgitter-net.de/hgs/sommer.jpg
does Zalman VF700 CU fit on POWERCOLOR X800XL ?
Fits perfectly, i saw a 20mhz improvement in memory and core over stock cooer.
guys news XL have 2.0 or 1.6ns ram chips?
2.0 as default but some on the beginning got 1,6ns manufactor was powercolor as i remeber correctly.
seEn
i think that x800pro vivo AGP is still the best cost/performance card...
These are the benchmarks for my system, with the following specs. There is no overclocking or tweaking involved, all default speeds. The specs are as follows: I know my video card is not an XL series, but I've just bought this card and would like to see how it compares with the XL. The make is a Power Color X800 Pro Series.
Intel Prescott 3.2E Socket 775
2 GB Infenion DDR400
X800 Pro
Intel 865Pe Chipset
Please tell me if this result are correct with default speeds? Or if they are on the Low Side.
gatt767 : why FSB 200 ? Why not 250 * X ? :)
and those timings for ram ? omg ......3-3-3-x at 200 ?
what are you doing ? :slap:
The last two-three weeks I haven´t done any 3dbenching with my XL. Only Goldmem and memtest.
Today I tried 3dm01 at 470/540 which was completely stable a few weeks ago (24h of 03 in loop). It was a no go. I had to back down to 550/530 for 3dmark to complete.
Then I noticed the temps were higher then they used to. I had 51c idle and 54c load. Earlier i had 40-41c load.. dont remember idle.
The Zalman VF700 is getting warm, so its not bad contact.
I dont get it .. why cant i EVER get decent hw... :mad:
Tedy are they good for a non tweaked system?
I know that they look bad no overclocking, slow mem timings etc. etc. but I have already lost a Pc due to a lightning surge that passed through the LAN Port, straight to the mainboard/CPU/Powersupply and mem. So I don't want to re loose this one with overclocking.
Quote:
Originally Posted by andL64
Nope powercolor are using 2.0ns now the first ones out were 1.6ns
Uh huh.... :confused: So it wouldnt work at 470/540 so u backed down to 550/530 ??? lol no wonder its not working :DQuote:
Today I tried 3dm01 at 470/540 which was completely stable a few weeks ago (24h of 03 in loop). It was a no go. I had to back down to 550/530 for 3dmark to complete.
Perkam
I think he meant to say 450/530. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
How is the HIS X800XL IceQ II? Have been thinking about buying one.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=60221Quote:
Originally Posted by AH^DK
Thanks mate, now I will DEFFENATELY get one :-).
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnbns
Correct .. from 470/540 to 450/530 :)
470 core without any mods is pretty good compared to many others .. hope I can figure it out. Should do 500 with 1.5-1.55v or so..
It seems that some cards have a slightly higher stock vgpu than others :confused: i am running 460/550 artifact free in ATItool without any mods, i have been to 470/570 and cannot see any artifacts in 3dmark though, maybe ATItool is just too good at stressing :stick:
Cant wait to volt mod it this week and hopefully make 500mhz on the core
just got my POWERCOLOR X800XL PCIE
2.0ns :(
will bench a little....
erm what tempetaures are still safe for X800XL ?
So far GPU max is 440 Mhz......
Few questions :
- Which cooler is better ZALMAN VF700CU or ATI SILENCER 5 REV2 ?
- Where do i see voltage for GPU/RAM as Nibitor had for NVIDIA ?
Thanks
http://img242.echo.cx/img242/87/hpim01842ja.jpg
http://img242.echo.cx/img242/3702/hpim01855nh.jpg
http://img242.echo.cx/img242/7276/hpim01918pr.jpg
Tedy don't feel bad about 2.0ns ram. Most people are getting cards like that including my powercolor. Out of the box with no volt/cooling mods my memory does 567 rock stable. I hope with better cooling a bit higher. Your core is doing better than mine though. I can't seem to go higher than 425-432.
My mem kind a sucks, doing max 540 :( 2,0ns... The core on the other hand is doing 480 on water, kind a strange, but nice :) Gonna find me a pencil and draw something on it :D
mine also only does 550 fully stable but with mods, good airflow etc.. i could also bench with 600 :D
how much did you guys get in increase with increased voltage?
3dmark 2003
11214
280*9
x800xl 400/490
A have a powercolor x800xl with a zalman vf700cu on it and my core does 456 and my memory only 521 :( :( :(
overclocking has been don with atitools if i go any higher i get artifacts in atitools scanner.
can i get higher (safe) with rivatuner
o the temp are oke i guess 54 on core full load and 30 idle
In my experience with my 9800 Pro, ATiTool sucks for detecting artifacts that you'll notice in games. I ran games 20MHz above what ATiTool told me was stable and never saw a single artifact.
ATItool detects artifacts at 550 on the mem on my XL. I play games at 440/590 with no artifacts and bench at 610+ easy.
just becasue you don't see artifact does not mean they aren't there. leave it at ati's values, and your cards should last as long as it was originally intended. go over, and possibly lessen it's life. That's if you care about that.
This aint called XtremeSystems for no reason, with better cooling its possible to run the cards much higher without risking its life...Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
he only bring up some good point and its sure true what he said he didnt say dont oc it 4 benching but if you want it 24/7 stable and at least use it some months (or years) and oc ed well you should consider that point.
I meant to say ATI-tool, and not ATI's values. Overclocking, and not raising voltages, should not damage a card. it either works, or it doesn't
Why i mentioned that was becasue most gaming/testing evironments are 3d...so there is always a side to an image that you don't see. the artifacts could be happening before the z-culling, and you wouldn't really see them.
Yep, mine does 460mhz core on 1.45v. I can run 480@1.5v, but temps hit 60C and I start to get artifacting.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
The mem is good for 585 at(I think) 2.2v, but it gets to hot so I am limited to 570 until I stick some fans on there. I don't I'll have any trouble breaking 600mhz with active cooling.
I'm using a jetart JASCH1, which can't quite cut it when it comes to extra volts. Does great on stock vgpu, though. My Maze4 will be here Friday, though so no worries. 1.6-1.65v coming soon!!!!
In Denmark we've just got a shop that sells a wc set the mem for a 100$, gonna get that one and give my mem some juice.. If it doesn't give any ekstra its at least kind a fancy with some dye :D