i get my ocz pc 3200 platinum el rev 2 tomorrow :) u think that i'll get brainpower pcb? and how can i find out without taking the heatspreader off? i heard they like more V :) good 4 my booster :D
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i get my ocz pc 3200 platinum el rev 2 tomorrow :) u think that i'll get brainpower pcb? and how can i find out without taking the heatspreader off? i heard they like more V :) good 4 my booster :D
Hey W00T, I just got mine in the other day and it was 808pcb. To be honest all OCZ PC3200 Plat. EL Rev.2 are on the 808pcb. To find out though is at the ends of your ram modules you'll see at the very egde a marking that will say 808 on it. I have not really tried mine out much yet. settin' at 255FSB 2.5-3-3-10 with 2.6volts.
i got =Quote:
Originally Posted by The Runner
nf7 - rev2, xp-m2500, patriot ram(now!!),9800 flashed'n thrashed, antec true power 550, lrww cpu block, z-chip n/b block, swiftech mcp300, home rad rads w/2x120mm fans - which can be seen here
the xp-m is @ about 2557 (10x243) right now.
yes the mobo is with out doubt the bottleneck :stick:
but as said it's more for a soon to own a64 set-up :cool:
Quote:
Originally Posted by GravediggA
Excuse me, I didn't check this thread for a while.
Actually we only have Adata Vitesta TCCD rams in here, so I can guarantee you that Adata-Vitesta's 566 and 600 ones uses TCCD and they can handle up to 3.7-3.8 V.
But to be honest, I could not see any difference yet between 3.2 to 3.8.
3.2 also gives me 240 fsb 2225 unstable and 225 2225 stable. :D
And also DDR600 can run up to 275 fsb 1:1 2.5-3-3-5 @ 2.85 V. :D
whats the cheapest tccd you can get with no spreaders?
http://www.oc-wear.de/pd2053558574.htm?categoryId=26
http://www.oc-wear.de/shippingcosts.htm
:) Maybe it is cheap for u, dunno the prices in UK!
Thats are OCZ TCCD but untested from them and without Heatspreaders!
oc-wear.de is the officiall distri. in germany for OCZ!
Quote:
DDR400 CL 2-2-2-5 @2,6V
DDR466 CL 2-3-3-5 @2,8V
DDR533 CL 2,5-3-3-5 @2,8V
DDR560 CL 3-4-4-8 @ 2,8V
Prefer your RAM naked too huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maelstrom2160
Never cared for those heatspreaders. What's available besides Gskill? Would like
to try a detachable spring loaded heatsink mounting system. = heat disipators ... ;)
U looked at my post? :rolleyes:Quote:
What's available besides Gskill?
Yes, thank you. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GravediggA
That was European page, and haven't seen that brand here in the States.
Ordered the Gskill 'GBLE' from NewEgg.com. With instant rebate it was cheaper
than what other vendors over here are charging. And no silly heatspreaders. :D
Hmmm ... Ok, I want to tell u all something ... Don' buy the OCZ 3700EL PE, they do well on there rated speed ,
but at 270 2.5-3-3-7 2T they give 19000(!!) Errors at Memtest! ;) No, there is noting more, i'm back on my BH5 and all works fine! :eek:
the site doesn't say they are from OCZ, how do you know this? they are really cheap tho .. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GravediggA
U know some other TCCD without Heatsreader? Yes the original Samsungs, butQuote:
Originally Posted by a5h
u can't buy them in europe! ;) And oc-wear have very good connections to
OCZ ... Just 1 + 1 ;)
http://www.ocztechnology.com/whereto...europe#Germany
does OCZ say this or do u just say this?
whats the difference between the different brainpower PCBs? 808, 815, 808a ...which one is best?
also which G.skill TCCD are the best? ...so many kinds.
imho ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by a5h
hey guys nice thread just read all 17 pages :p: ok i have a few questions?? first off i just picked up a pair of 256 patriot 3200 with the xbl tech. they have the bp815 pcb and the chips have this on them for numbers samsung 440 K4H560838F TCCD now i can tell they have the "F" but i dont see where you guys are getting the 0437 from? how do i tell if i have 37 or later? also i have a pair of eb3500 platnuim from ocz and they have the 808 bp pcb does that mean these have tccd chips also or is it also possible to get a bp pcb without tccd chips? sorry if any of my questions were answered in previous pages...
*edit* is it the 3 digit number next to samsung that you guyare talking about? in my case it would be 440.. also these patriot memorys did 220 defualt voltage in my msi neo2 dual channel 2-2-2-5 before i had to loosen the timmings to 2.5-3-3-5 to go higher.. i havent maxed them out yet so i dont have any other numbers for you. im currently at 240 yeah i know thats nothing to write home about but i will max these out and let you guys know what i get out of these patriot memorys...
thx perc,
Best results seem to come from the LE version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanr Zij
Check out the forums on Gskill.com and also the Coolaler forums.
which one of these 2 would any of you guys chose? (they are both relatively the same price):
1. OCZ PC3200 EL Platinum Rev.2 Dual channel 1024MB kit
2. G.SKILL PC4400/3200 F1-3200DSU2-1GBLE 1024MB kit
You have 0440 TCCD :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Perc
Quote:
Originally Posted by jlccarv
ok so it is the 4 digit nember thats written after the samsung name. cool thx man...
peace perc,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Thanks... ! 1GB or 512MB ( 2 stick ) is better ? Thanks ag'n ! :toast:
2x256 will most likely clock higher than 2x512 but if you are into gaming 2x512 would be a better choice.
For benchmarking 2x256 will be best. ;)
I just bought the patriot 512-3200 XBLK, I was wondering if i can run 3.3 v into them w/ out frying them? whats the average voltage you guy seen throughout this 17 page thread.
Doing 2-3-3-6 wif 2.9 @ 250, 2.5-3-3-6 wif 2.65 @ 280. Clocks equally well on both Intel and AMD platform.Quote:
Originally Posted by NonProphets
gd stuff :banana:
actually its 18 pages :p: hehe
My PQI 3200 Rev.3 Turbo are doing 300Mhz 1:1 at S478, pretty good ram, i think i can pull out more, but my it's my mobo's end. Ah, and I was running with 3,3V, Brainpower PCB and TCCD437.
http://www.geocities.com/benny_nejkt...00_sandra2.txt
GA-K8NSUltra-939 F5 BIOS out if the box, air cooling, vdimm 2.7 volt
Nobody bought APACER ?
So, after reading all of the threads about the TCCD chips, if you still had the choice between BH-5 and TCCD, which would you get?
I'm back from TCCD to the BH5!
Quote:
Originally Posted by oiler
TCCD Brain Power PCB only...
BH-5 with OCZ DDR Booster.. :toast:
any experiences about these sticks=> http://cheeep.de/chips.php?op=modloa...0482.141.84.98...i`m planning to order those sticks for my msi neo2 plat
it says the geil ultrax 3200 is, howabout the 4000? anyone know, I am a bit weary about taking the heatspreaders off because they have the temp things, worried about pulling out a cord or two.
i will get APACER PC4000 today ...110€ only :P
i got mine yesterday.(patriot 3200 xbl 2x512) it has thte 815 pcb. well so far i guess its OK. its burnin in now at 2.5,3,3,11 @ 2.7v. i tell u guys like my old sammy ram this stuff doesnt like voltage at all. it can run like 225 at 2,2,2,11 but thats as far as she would go at those timings. my 3d 2k1 scores are down abit but other programs dont seem to be affected but the slower timings. oh its burning in at 241mhz. same speed i was using with my bh-5s forever now.
i will keep u guys posted on whether or not some burning in will help me get those 2,2,2 timings for 240 fsb.
i dam hope so, the system still seems alittle spunkier with the additional ram. :rolleyes:
a little bit of advise guys, i currently have 2x256mb ocz pc3500 ltd ed bh5 ram, shud i get a ocz booster and use them for a bit longer? Or get 2x512mb patriot xbl memory. I game alot.
spec as in sig.
Ill have a look thru this thread now and update accordingly.
I am about to buy 2x512MB OCZ EL Platinum Dual Channel PC3200 Rev.2
Will these hit 300Mhz 2.5-3-3 @ 3v ?
in ur sig u run ur abit at 250? what is ur chipset voltage?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenom0rph
somehow I doubt that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenom0rph
Its pot luck at the end of the day, you'll need an overall good system to achieve this, 1 item wont make or break it, you need a overall good system that can achieve this mhz.
I just bought the G.Skill F1-3200DSU2-512LE today. I should have it by 3pm tomorrow. Can't wait to see what this stuff will do. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by a5h
My NF7-S is running with vdd=1.7v in BIOS, it has no MODs at the moment.
I am planning to buy 2x512MB OCZ EL Plat PC3200 Rev2 for 2 reasons:
1) My system NEEDS 1 Gig RAM NOW !!
2) I will buy a DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D and a Winchester 3500+ in a few months, so i will use high FSBs then.
I would want to have 300FSB (or more :D) with good timings. I have seen some images posted here with rams @ 310Mhz 2.5-3-3 or so with 3v vdimm, and I think DFI NF4 mobo will do over 3v.
So, what RAM should I buy? 2x512MB of course...
Thanks.
PD: Me and my friend Zerox (with DFI NF3 250GB and Claw 3400+) wanna buy the RAMs today, so please reply me as soon as you can. Which RAM is the best for these systems?
I bought 2x512 A-Data Vitesta 566. Reason? Quite good price and chance for HTT 300 sync. Now i'm using A7N8X Dlx ( NF2 ) + Barton@2530MHz , but in next months i'm planning to buy DFI NF4 + Winchester 3200+. DFI offers Vmem above 3,2 V and I think, that @300Mhz will be quite possible.
Well i can buy A-Data DDR600 at a good price and be sure that i will reach 300 FSB. But i don't know if OCZ EL Plat 3200 Rev2 will have better timings @ 300Mhz than A-Data's. Please, i need help :(
Ordered 2x512 A-DATA PC4500 DDR566 and sold my BH-5, my 2x512 BH-5 couldn't pass 220 stable no mather what...
Well now there is available a dual channel kit with tccd-chips http://cheeep.de/chips.php?op=modloa...038194.215.0.4!!.Well i will order those and post some results here... :banana:
I have a pair of vitesta ddr600.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenom0rph
before vdimm mod, @2.85 v, I can only boot at 285 fsb dual 2,5-3-3-5 but after vdimm mod, @ 3.3 v, I can now boot at 300 fsb dual.
edit: single dimm can boot at 300 fsb @2.85 v
I need vagp mod because nb cannot handle the 300 fsb @1.8 v :stick:
I can't get my DDR566 stable over 250 :/
Edit:
10x260 - 2,5-3-3-8-1T - 2,85v - unstable
9x275 (so far) - 2,5-3-3-8-1T - 2,7v - stable
have you tried with cas2 5-2-2-2 settings how high you can go with that with vdimm 2,85v?Quote:
Originally Posted by meke
TCCD is Good !
http://61.220.123.253/cpg/albums/userpics/10003/all.jpg
I have just bought 2x512MB OCZ EL Plat Rev.2. I think i will have them on thursday or friday. I'll tell you my experiences when i have tried them. Bye.
???????????????-Quote:
Originally Posted by qk4723Deluxe
the def voltage is 2.85 for asus mobo.Quote:
Originally Posted by daysleeper
fsb 200 1:1 is the only avaliable 2225 latency for ddr600.
then I try fsb 210, no way. May be 201-209 try can hit but I didn't try.
I made vdimm mod, and with 3.3V, fsb 235 1:1 2225 is stable, but fsb 240 is not.
There's quite a bit of information in this thread and maybe you guys can come to conclusion on this. What's the "best" TCCD ram to get? Kingston, Crucial, OCZ? Or what? Thanks!
Crucial doesn't have TCCD...
my HyperX ULK2/1G 2.8V !!
How are the Patriot 1 gig kits doing with 3.0+?
The max vdimm on my board is 2.9v but I can get 220 2-2-2-5 with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by LFATB
With gskill 1gble at 2.7Volts
http://www.omg-hax.net/upload/mem2.JPG
Run integer multi's to show bandwidth. :stick:
FYI ........
Just looked at my new my new Gskill RAM (gblE) and they
are all matching number TCCD chips mounted on Brainpower 808 PCB.
Hope to post comparrison with Bh-5 & Ch-5 in my nf2 board soon. :)
Seems to me that you guys are liking Gskill TCCD Rams. Where are you guys buying yours from? I can't seem to differentiate the ones from newegg. Thanks!
SweetQuote:
Originally Posted by JDizzle
NeweggQuote:
Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider
I got the 2x256 LE model
Here ya go........at 2.65V...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
http://www.omg-hax.net/upload/a1integermulti3392.JPG
LOL, that wasn't what i meant, you're using 11,5 multi which in turn puts in a divider for the mem.
Your mem is running 3292/12=274,3MHz
Running whole multi's has the the mem running 1:1 ;)
Sorry for the repetitive questions on the TCCD Ram's. I think I'll just pay a little more and get OCZ rams. Is this the OCZ ram with TCCD modules?
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...146-890&depa=0
Thanks.
I just got an OCZ 4200EL Platinum kit (2x512MB) in the mail yesterday. With my previous TCCD RAM I couldn't get over 245 with the FX-55 and a Neo2. I don't have a DDR booster and I think the board is undervolting a bit.
Haven't really had the time to play yet but it had no trouble with 10x260 running Prime95 all night. Can't want to spend some more time finding the RAMs limits.
Latest Edit: Current setup:
vdimm=2.85V (but think it's undervolting)
10x270
2.5-3-3-10, 1T
I tested 275 and it was ok if I went to 3-3-3-10.
B
Look at the last letter in the part number. According to many OCer posts, andQuote:
Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider
from the mods at the Gskill forums, it seems the "E" are best at the moment. And
why they are the most expensive.
Take a look at this......Everest vs cpuid at 11.5 multi x 294 in biosQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
http://www.omg-hax.net/upload/evecpuid11.5.JPG
which gives mem of 281.75 (3381/12).
.5 multi's result in the memory divider being the next WHOLE number up. The memory divider does not support .5 multi's.
I've been following this thread very closely, A friend told me about these new samsung chips so I thought I would look into them. I brought some cheap patriot ram a while back and noticed that it used the bp 808 pcb.
http://img135.exs.cx/img135/9171/photo_213.jpg
I wonder why they decided to use the 815 pcb with their tccd memory, I was dead set on there xbl sticks but all the pcb confusion has put me off them :confused:
Hesky
The 808 and 815 based modules should perform about the same. There was
some speculation that the 808 OCed better but there has been no real basis to
favor one over the other. More luck of the draw.
Get the Gskill "E" if you want the fastest and don't want those silly useless
heatspreaders, and PDP/Patriot if you want to save a few bucks. The difference
in performance will likely be quite small in the grand scheme of things.
Hello,
The Gskill TCCD can make 300 MHz 2.5-3-3-5 for good stick !
Witch other mark can make this ?
Thanks :toast:
Cheers Susquehannock,
In the UK its pretty hard to get hold of these brands of ram.
I can get the G Skill extreme's for 205 pounds, the PQI turbos for 181 pounds and the PDP XBL's for 156 pounds. The XBL's are still really tempting, just hope I can get them to run 270 fsb at 2.9 to 3 volts.
Has anyone yet managed similar results with the xbls in dual channel mode.
Hesky
hesky ->
I'm in war for make a grouped order of best memory since 2 mouth !
I can have from Gskill Taiwan @ 245-250 € -> TCCD without certified
But they tell me that is good TCCD -> Maybe 300 MHz 2.5-3-3-5
He don't tell me if is GBLA, GBLB ... for me this name is MARKETING.
Gskill tell me that GBLE is now only for Newegg :(
For me Gskill is all the same except the GBLD, GBLD it's worst Samsung I thinks.
But 245-250 € ... is too mush, and I ask all XS.com, witch other memory can make this ?
Thanks :toast:
Hi computersmsa, thats cheaper than I can get, but its hard to get the g skill stuff cheap in the uk. Maybe if theres more interest in the group buy the price may go down.
Hesky
I'm running mine stable DC @ 270 2.5-3-3-7. Good stuff :)Quote:
Originally Posted by hesky
with 2x512 LE, 295 at 2.65V. Gskill said that only 1 out of 10 tccd 431 will past speed binning and labeled LE....
Quote:
Originally Posted by LFATB
i have the 512 kit and i can run 3.10v at 2-3-3-5 just fine. i havent tried this high of voltage with 3cas just 2cas and at high HTT like 270 plus... so far verry good memory. *crosses fingers*
peace perc,
Hi . Guys what are you thinking of Corsair 3200XLPT ????
Please look in the picrure , i guess that the PCB is BP. Thanks
New Corsair = BrainPower :)
hesky -> You can look the story of grouped order -> http://forum.bel-hardware.citywebz.c...t=128&start=60
I have good contact and price with Centon memory :)
Are the Patriot 1 GB TCCD Rams selling for $219.99 at Newegg?Quote:
Originally Posted by Perc
Here's the link?
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...220-033&depa=0
Those be the good ones. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider
Interesting how that "BP" number is in a different location than my Gskill stix.Quote:
Originally Posted by shimo
These have the "BP" number in the very middle of the back of
the module between the chips.
Guess those silly heatspreaders are covering the ends so you can't tell us
which BrainPower PCB they are using ... 808 or 815, or maybe something else completely?
They are BP 815 (TwinX1024-3200XLPT v1.2 dual-channel) . They did 270 @ 2.5-3-3-6 1T on a Abit AV8- K8T800-PRO with a winnie:). Hope they will do the same on my DFI -NF3 with my 3400+(NC 0433). Merry cristhmas to all:)
Centon will make TCCD with BP 808A in near time :)
The best PCB ...
For Europa people, I make a grouped order of them in near time.
Centon have a protos, but not quantity yet :)
The new topic -> http://forum.bel-hardware.citywebz.c...opic.php?t=156 I think that will be a very good memory :D
++ Good end of year :)
Finally got my TCCD, OCZ PC3200 2-2-2 Rev 2. Working in my DFI 754 with a 3200+ claw. I have a big problem cause I just can't get it over 245mhz at 2.5-3-3-7 timings. When I boot with these settings and my mobo wants to detect my 2 s-ata hdd's it just stops, like it can't find them. Anyone familiar with this problem?
HDD SATA -> Port 3 & 4
Disable 1 & 2
:)
The Ram spreaders are quite useless indeed. I had a hunch my Patriot's were running hot so i decided to rip spreaders off and boy am i glad i did, there wasnt even 2 whole ram chips making full contact on one stick! very poor contact overall!
now time to see what they really can do! so far stable to 230FSB 2 2 2 7 1!
Yeah I figured it out, thanks for the help though :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by computersmsa
I have another problem, my TCCD has a couple of errors in memtest at 265, sometimes hl2 also hangs up. Does burning in help or should I just RMA it and get the G.Skill?
S754 -> No problem with one stick, with two stick -> +- 265 MHz max ...
http://www.bel-hardware.be/a64moc_1.html
Look, it's the same with all TCCD :)
But even with 1 dimm I can't get 265 stable...
Sorry guys, but do the OCZ 4200EL use selected TCCD + BrainPower PCB? :confused:
Which chip & pcb use the OCZ 4000EL Rev2? They are like OCZ 3200 EL Rev2? ;)
Thanks a lot all ;).
Regards :toast: .
Nope ... don't think the OCZ 4200el will be BP/TCCD. You need to be looking
at these:
- OCZ pc3200 EL Platinum Revision 2 (mod# OCZ4001024ELDCPER2-K) = Brainpower 808
- OCZ pc3700 EL Dual Channel Platinum (mod# OCZ4661024ELDCPE-K) = Brainpower 808
Thanks :).
So the 3700 Use selcted TCCD + BP PCB? :confused:
hey thx for the heads up on the heat spreaders. after reading your post i went and took a look at my patriot xbl's and sure enough poor contact...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jethro
these patriots are realy decent memory for sure. these are the first memorys i can actualy run two dimms at high htt in my DFI 250ut board. used to have to take a stick out once past 250htt now im at 270 and stable with both stick installed... deff nice memory glad i got a pair.
later perc,
I cant relly figure out which BP PCB I got, this is the code: BP WLL E186014 and D6800H. Would be cool if someone knew.
whats the best way to take the heatspreaders off?
Yep, pretty sure they use hand selected chips that are known toQuote:
Originally Posted by Juspriss
OC well.
They are likely covered by the heatspreaders, but I think you need to look atQuote:
Originally Posted by NiCKE^
the ends of the PCB. As in this picture:
http://server3.uploadit.org/files/Su...tccd808815.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perc
Not at all surprised the heatspreaders were making poor contact. This is
more common that we'd like to think. Not only that, those adhesive pads
aren't "thermal pads" ... or are they?
Try freezing the stix first. (makes the adhesive brittle)Quote:
Originally Posted by MaRtIe
Then thread a piece of fishing line under the spreaders and pull. There are
other tricks and hopefully someone will post up.