[mbot] harleybro - 38611 - 4000+@3361 X850XT 758/659[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8566470
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[mbot] harleybro - 38611 - 4000+@3361 X850XT 758/659[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8566470
[mbot] JasonDTM - 21870.00 - 3000+@2423 6600GT 618/1200[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8553616
[mbot] LitleDevil - 27045 - Winchester3200+@2700 9800PRO @ 505/405 watercooled[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8588558
[mbot] Jimbo Mahoney - 40484 - Opteron 146 @ 3070Mhz X1900XT 790/830 Watercooled[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8916729
[mbot]tekxoid - 28688 - 3000+ @ 2.7GHz // X850XTPE @ Stock[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8595569
[mbot]BMORIN - 37814 - SanDiego@3246 machII cooled // VX@270 (2,2,2,5) // x800xtpe @ STOCK CLOCKS[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8614220
[mbot]Spinal - 31372 - Venice@2.861 // Corsair LLPT 260@1.5 2 2 8 // X850XTPE@ STOCK CLOCKS[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8601472
[mbot]OcGhost - 16792 - That is a complete run ppl / XPM 35w@2.7 / AData Vitesta DDR500@400 2.5 3 3 11 / FX5700U@ core605 mem1080 vmod[/mbot]
[mbot] Ziggy - 25556 - AMD Athlon 64 4000 San Diego Default XFX 6800 GT @ 405 / 1147 [/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8610347
Score on 4000SanDiego @3103mhz on Vapo=32488, 6800GT 385/1050http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8611693
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8471510
[mbot]Evil_Spork - 31217 - 3000+ winchester @ 2650 | x850xt @ stock(519/540)[/mbot]
[mbot]T_M - 32816 marks - 3500+ @ 2894 | Watercooled CPU/GPU | X850XT @ 627/654 stock volts[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8623288
[mbot] Magnj - 27952 - AMD 3500+ NewCastle @ 2649Mhz, ATI 800xl at 450/455 [/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8664625
[mbot] mtb856 - 22390 - 2.4C @ 3.55 9800 Pro > XT @ 480/378 vmodded core aircooled [/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8496582
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8464698
[mbot] Morgoth - 19391.00 - Athlon XP Barton 2600+@2.43GHz 1.88v BFG 6800 OC [/mbot]
[mbot] kiwi - 34432 - 3700+ SD 3Ghz, x800xt 560/580 [/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8625545
[mbot] corvus_corax - 27079.00 - 3200+ Winchester@2755MHz ATI Radeon x700Pro[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8618012
[mbot] sabrewolf732 - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8605277 - sempron at 2440, 512MB ram 2-3-2 240MHz, 6800 370/800 12/6 [/mbot]
[mbot] sabrewolf732 - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8502613 - barton at 2560, 512MB ram 220 2-2-2, 9800 400/340 [/mbot]
[mbot] leviathan18 - 22538 - 3500+ Newcastle@2420MHz Nvidia 6600gt 580/1220 sli [/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8631795
update:
[mbot] sabrewolf732 - 23912 - 3000 mobile @2430MHz pny 6800 12/6 372/807[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8630876
[mbot]rozzyroz- 31294 - dothan @ 2399 aiwx800xt @ 545/565[/mbot]
not my best, but the one im most proud of :banana:
update:
[mbot] kiwi - 35547 - 3700+ SD 3,05Ghz, x800xt 560/580 [/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8637616
Win2k and MPS Uniproc tweak does its job pretty well: +1000 :toast:
[mbot]|Joker| - 41044 - A64 Fx55 @ 3368Mhzs || X850XT @ 700/650 [/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8637549
Just looking and noticing overall we are in 2nd place for top scores too bad were loosing just because maverick put up 3 scores with the same system all between 44.5k+ and gave another one of his scores and had someone else post it :mad: and did the same thing for hwbot in 03 and 05, someone is playing dirty/
Update: [mbot]Vlad - 32592 - FX53@2623 - X850XT@590/600 [/mbot] On air!
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8643525
[mbot] Tanktanium - 33291 - 3700+ 939 11x250 X850XT 600/1200 [/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8703274
[mbot] corvus_corax - 28200.00 - 3200+ Winchester@2800MHz ATI Radeon x700Pro@503/598[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8642147
[mbot] NickS - 21717 - 3000+ Newcastle @ 2200MHz, BFG 6800OC, 375/750, 12 pipes 5 shaders [/mbot]
[mbot] a0chicken - 18904] - AXP-M 2.4 R9800 420/370 [/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8655633
[mbot]JSU - 18591 - Dothan 730 @ 2509Mhzs || 9600XT @ 658-/358- [/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8661516
[mbot]Syngrow - 34765 - 3500+ NC @ 2974MHz + X800XT 564/615[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8566990
[mbot]sabrewolf732 - 24246 - a64m @ 2475Mhz 6800 @ 370/800[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8635293
[mbot]qujck - 31112 - a64 SD @ 2864Mhz 7800GTX @ 480/1300[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8656894
[mbot]Skyline - 42004 - XFX7800GTX SLI 526/1386 ,FX57 @ 3204 [/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8652865
[mbot]loc.o - 36730 - 4000+ SD @ 3150Mhz X850XTPE @ 590/1180[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8645398
[mbot] Gryph - 37220 - BFG 7800GTX 589/1400 ,FX55 @ 3080 all on air [/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8665537
[hwbot] welshtom - 33057 - 3000+ Venice@3061MHz ATI Radeon x800Pro vivo@XTPE 570/560 [/hwbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8665871
Is that right ?
Tom
[hwbot] vickyrao - 29412 - Venice 3000+ @ 2.7Ghz (AIR COOL)/X800XT-PE @ 600/1140 [/hwbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8633072
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8668651
[hwbot] Kinc - 43082 - 2x7800GTX 522/1286MHz (air) FX-57@3161MHz (air) [/hwbot]
Hi Guys,
Just a quick response with reference to the mbot league tables.
No-one is playing dirty is was an open and honest mistake - we did not know that mbot was case senitive.
We have been working with mbot ever since this was discovered and over a month ago all duplications were removed from the scores that you are now seeing in the mbot leaderboard.
That is to say that we are geniune no1 leaders in 3d mbot benchmarks, this can be verified by emailing mbot and asking.
There will be a new version out soon that will negate such oversights in future.
Rest assured there are no dirty tricks here and we look forward to continued competition between TEAM EPUK, TEAM XS and TEAM XR.
Good luck guys, may the force be with you......................always. ;)
Mate I dont give my scores to anyone - they are all mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
It is unfair and unjust for you to make baseless accusations like that, sour grapes perhaps? :slapass:
[hwbot] ALT_F13 - 44057 - FX-57@3.42GHz Mach 2 GT, A8N-SLI Premium, 7800GTX SLI@513/1370 [/hwbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8664620
That score may bring us to the number 1 spot!
Here at ExtremePrometeia we now have but two members left to post - Livingl@rge and Dazboots.
Hopefully we can cement our no1 position in all 3 3d mbot tests, until then we still remain in the top spot............... for now.
You guys seem to have good depth in the quality of your benchies - that is to say at least 8 of your top marks are with 7800sli rigs.
XR guys have PCICE cascade rigs - which are beautiful pieces of machinery and can allow highest ever clock speeds which gives the selected few stunning results.
The challange ahead is between us three and although I have now posted all my scores (having achieved all i can with the kit I have) I think there will be even higher scores from every team in the next month or so.
With all the new kit that has been introduced recently - it's a great time for overclockers everywhere.
Mav
maverick,
Your lucky OPP hasn't posted his 48K score. Btw, you and your buddy Gollum need to stop publishing every score and littering the ORB like that.
Hi mate,
I thought everyone used the filter only highest scores from each user??
I am not 'lucky' at all look at my system specs:
FX55SD 270*13
BH5 2-2-2-6
Reference 7800's @ 510/1450 watercooled
PCP&P 850w supply
R507 Mach2
Audigy2 soundcard
Running winXP SP2
And yet in spite of my relatively (compared to the top guys) low overclocks I am up there with them - If only I had a cascade and vmodded pelt cooled 7800's? I'd be right up there and beyond - as it stands all above me are the lucky ones - lucky I aint got the same kit :banana:
But it's all about the fun - I enjoy the competition after all thats whats it's all about.
I dont do flaming, I don't like being told how to conduct myself and I dont tell others how to conduct themselves - I respect people and their achievements and my motto is live and let live, but most of all enjoy it.
Well there are a lot of the top dogs here at XS and they arent posting their scores...
such as this score: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8624107
Maverick,
I never said you were lucky. Yes I know about filtering :rolleyes:
The problem with filtering is if someone has scores on different platforms/cards they are difficult to find.
What is the point of publishing every score you have a few points different anyway? A pro bencher would never do that.
OMFG look at all the stuff on the extreme prometia page...its all lies.
http://www.extremeprometeia.com/foru...?t=1473&page=1
The bolded scores are copies....Quote:
* 1. Maverik sg1 - 46475.00 marks - fx55SD @ 270*13, SLi 7800GTXs @ 515/1450, R507 Prommie
2. MAVERIK SG1 - 46227.00 marks - fx55 SD @ 3511, 2x 7800GTX 500/1400, Prommie r507
3. The Legend - 46222.00 marks - fx55 270x13, 7800GTXs @ 500/1375, MACH2 GT
4. GoLLuM - 46116.00 marks - fx57 @ 257*14, SLi 7800GTXs @ 529/1374, Prommie r507
5. scorchio - 46039.00 marks - fx55, 2x7800GTX, prommie r507, old skool BH5
6. hannibal - 45019.00 marks - fx55, 2x7800GTX, vapoLS, 2x512mb Redline PC4000
7. SCOR CHIO - 44263.00 marks - fx55 SD @ 3500, 2 7800GTX,prommie r507
8. RRA - 43721.00 marks - fx57 @ 270*13, SLi 7800GTXs @ 475/1340 MACH2 GT R507
9. maverik - 41838.00 marks - fx55 SD, 2 6800GT, prommie r507
10. LiViNgL@RgE - 40716.00 marks - FX55 @ 3380, 2 x 6800GT @ 435 / 1260, 2 x 512 BH5 @260 22251T
11. rra - 40606.00 marks - fx57 @ 267*13, SLi 6800u @ 455/1210, Vapo ls
12. Dazboots - 37934.00 marks - fx55@3258x800664/6372xbh5@2622225
13. Ad22uk - 35801.00 marks - FX55 33166800 ultra
14. Thickbrit - 35291.00 marks - 660 @ 5076, x850xtpe @ 705/657
15. Animal - 34358.00 marks - AMD 64 FX55 @ (3Ghz) BBA X800 XT PCIE (600/550)
16. Grov - 31986.00 marks - 3700@ 2618, x800xtpe @ 668/634
17. Cashman - 31932.00 marks - 3700 @ 2750mhz, X850XT @ 560/600
18. MrBios - 30942.00 marks - 3800 @ 3ghz, X850XT 600/600, Mach II GT
19. boardy - 30547.00 marks - FX53 (940) @ 2904, GPU @ 530Mhz/ RAM @ 560Mhz, CPU MachII, GPU Maze 41 Pelt
20. pobolycwm - 25071.00 marks - 3.2E @ 3762, x800 16pipes watercooled pelted gpu
21. eR!k - 22684.00 marks - xpm 2600 , 9800 non pro, bh6, MachII r507
22. richba5tard - 19555.00 marks - 6800LE 16pipes/6vertex A64 3000
Haha that's funny ZX, what a bunch of noobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZX7891
You guys should try and keep up with current affairs - and take the time to read further on in our own forum and I quote a retort from me in our forums:
I wrote
Clearly we did not know that would be the effect and apologise for it unreservedly, if anything though we helped highlight and unknown bug in the program - but in know way intended to exploit this to our advantage.
The other issue is that even though we deleted the scores, they were not taken from our leaderboard.
I think you'll find that the best we could to resolve this situation was to post even faster scores so they drop out of the top 10 - this we have done with some success and are now the legitimate No1 Benchmarking team in mbot.
Again apologies, I look forward to seeing the revised hwbot in action as to avoid any further instances of human error - we as a team will be more vigilant in future.
The Coach
And MBOT Wrote:
The duplicate scores are blocked (lowest one of the bunch), which means they won't affect the team average no more.
The next release will not be case sensitive anymore.
That was in early July ;)
And the link to this can be found here:
http://www.extremeprometeia.com/foru...1776#post21776
Rest assured guys, the scores you are seeing in the Mbot league table from TEAM EPUK are the real deal 100% genuine and they make us NUMBER ONE - Of course you got OPP with a fantastic score and I think it should be posted to give you guys a fighting chance of catching up with us - the gap is pretty big right now in 01.
@ G H Z - I never said I was a pro bencher, therefore your comments in any sense to me are invalid - please dont go on at me, it wont make any difference. On the other hand if you been polite enough to ask instead of making demands I would have respomnded more postively in the same respctful manner. I will consider the issue again in a few weeks.
Maybe a lil help guys...... how do I become a pro bencher, is there money and freebies involved?
[mbot]PcCI2iminal - 37127 - Dothan 750 @ 2740Mhzs - 7800GTX @ 520/1420 [/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8673646
@ maverick
Nice job cleaning up the image from Scorchio's post, which just so everyone know's was hosted on the same exact web space as maverick's images. Go try your BS somewhere else.
The posts by boardy with an AXP running 23 sec is almost as funny as your stupid tricks mav.
@ GHZ
Mate dont be so paranoid.
Scorchio and me are best mates for over 20 years we live within 10miles of each other and yes I posted his image for him - it don't mean anything.
To prove a point the scores he has posted which are now on ORB are Scorchio specific.
No need to bitter about our success - this is a fun competition, there's no money involved and yet you insist on making accusations before you have all the facts at hand.
If you want MSN details of each of us I'll PM them to you and I'll call him so we can get a group discussion going at the same time.
Come on lets get back on track here - I dont want to be the bad guy, I just wanna enjoy the competition, hopefully you do to, I know the other guys in your forum don't share the same views so lets say we put this one behind us now and move on? :toast:
Reference Boardy's superpi score - we are all as sceptical as you on that one, if you bothered to read the thread you will see that, you will also see that mbot rejected the scores.
PcCI2iminal absolutely amazing scores dude - RESPECT!
MAv :clap:
If you posted the image for him then why did it miraculously dissapear from your team the thread in the last 24 hours? Another thing, most of the guys there dindn't bother to post a cap to prove their claimed scores anyway, what a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by maverik-sg1
I'm surprised mbot accepted them that way.
I think the language you use here is pretty telling about the truth as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by maverik-sg1
Mate you are full of it - conspiracy theories gone mad - I dont know what I can do to help you - but it sounds like you need some sort of help.
You are reading far too much into these things, or just looking for way to justify something - I cant follow your logic my friend and have know idea where all this is coming from.
Although I enjoy the comedy value of your proposals ;)
EDITED FOR CONTENT
[hwbot]Oppainter - 48,046 - FX-55 @ 3640Mhz - 7800 GTX SLI @ 542/1438[/hwbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8624107
http://www.xtremeresources.com/forum...id=13642&stc=1
It has been disproved via mbot u moron, u make me laugh so much my sides are hurting.
The reason why the piccies were removed was simple - firstly we had the issue with duplicated names/scores due to the bug in mbot. 2ndly we were able to improve alll of our scores making the older and lower scores irrelevant.
You cant post other peoples scores on your sign in you noob.
It only suggests to me that ZX and GHZ's baseles accusations and desperate postings of other peoples scores (perhaps hiding behind your own inadequacy in the benching dept) are nothing short of real desperation for GHZ and ZX to tarnish the good name we have and in some way justify why you are not in the no1 postion.
Fortunately most of use are aldults and enthusiaists understand the word friendly competition - I know for a fact that your mods will see it that way and this is all getting out of hand and uncecessarily personal from two rogue members in your great forum. :slapass:
Maybe you shlould less :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing and more benching - else we will be so far in front you'll need to borrow hubble to see us!! :fact:
@ anyone else reading this - my retorts are no reflection on XS whatsoever, I reserve the right to defend myself.
I happen to think that you have a great forum here (which is why I joined)and I now look forward to a long stnading relastionship with you guys - even though I am affiliated in another 3d team - deosnt mean I can't pop in from time time.
@ mav,
Hurry up and go run a few more benches at different Mhz, and figure out your image hosting. Then the next guy will have a harder time figuring out your stupid game.
But the cat's out of the bag here buddy :rolleyes:
Anyone with half a brain would know what you guys are copying scores in an attempt to retain the number one spot...And guess what...im in high school..how can i afford a prommy, FX-57 and 2 7800GTX's?Quote:
Originally Posted by maverik-sg1
And I talked to a mod who said it was fine to post Oppainters score..
[hwbot]Oppainter - 48046 - FX-55 @ 3640Mhz - 7800 GTX SLI @ 542/1438[/hwbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8624107
http://www.xtremeresources.com/forum...id=13642&stc=1
woops i put a comma in the first one..
GZH and ZX81 u r so funny, the comedy value of your double act is extremely pleasing (some people would pay to see you two 2gether on stage) - just to let you know I just posted another 01 and 03 score and guess what? we are number one!
No doubt you are there now looking for some other poor excuse as to why your two 'extreme' systems cant handle the pace, keep looking guys, th more you look the higher we score - hang on sec I know why your looking for reson now - your rigs are so S H I T E u aint got nothing better to do - except play another game like the sims or some other game that will actually run on your word processors!! I am trying to understan why with your puny rigs why u actually hobble around an XTREME site, maybe to B I A T C H at other peoples successes? I think thats the truth
On the flip side with the exception of abbott and costello here, lets keep the competition nice and friendly guys - This is a great time to be benching and to be competing and regardless of the two paranoid ladies here it remains a fair competition and I look forward to frequenting your forums much more often.
Cheers
The Coach
[hwbot]Spinal - 32255 - 3700+ SD @ 2800Mhz Stock cooler - X850XT PE @ STOCK Clocks [/hwbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8674690
Nice score spinal mate - well done.
Well bugger me rotten with a chiansaw looks like its handbags at dawn
:slapass:
If you knew anything u would know that old skool BH5 is capable of benching at 270 2-2-2-6 (at 3.6v), which is about average for old skool BH5 PC3500.
270x13 is the best overclock for benching with FX55SD which, u :banana::banana::banana::banana: - is why our clocks are the same when we bench as will be anyone else with SD55's and old skool bh5.
The guy literally lives around the corner from me and is IT imcompetent (which is why I host his piccies when required) - of course he got all his coaching from me too - The Guy who own Extreme Prometeia has met us both in person, sold us both our PSUs and Mach2's so u can ask around our forum - :fact: They all know we are best mates and that live close to each other - :banana::banana::banana::banana: I even get parcels delivered to his house if I am not around.
In fact Fatty can vouch for this too.
What is a cap?Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
I love it when u get on your high horse :p:
They are twins just about I built them both mach2 gt regass units so :banana:
and I am not saying this just because I am an EP UK member because end of the day I dont bench realy but these boys do know what they are doing :toast:
[hwbot]CYK - 38950 - 3700+ SD @ 3300Mhz - X850XT PE @ 630/612 on water cooling powered by Monteboy [/hwbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8797475
OK on the EPUK page the only copied score thats left is scorchios....Ill give you that maverik.. after you remove scorchios copied score that leaves EP with 42,505.4 average putting XS ahead by more than 100points...
Mbot discounted the score mate - so it dont count, but I'll have a word and see what we can do - but the score you see at mbot HQ is already minus the duplicate score.
Which I believe means EPUK are still in front.
That and the fact I improved my score by 200+ points (which has not yet been added).
Mav
Mbot has not discounted the score....I just took the top 10 on your site with scorchios double and it came out at 43297.6 which is your score right now...
From their mbot home page & thread.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=35435&stc=1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=35436&stc=1
Another mistake mav? You better review your tricks if you want to pass this stuff off. Haha Boardy is your moderator, the guy that claimed 23 sec Super PI scores on an Athlon XP.
I wondered how you managed to remove the scorchio image from that post without leaving a post edited trace. Obviously your tricks are being done with help from the site admin. I think your whole Team should be reviewed and possibly banned from the mbot rankings. People like you make me sick. Mbot works hard to make a cool scoring system and guys like you just ruin it.
thnx :)Quote:
Originally Posted by maverik-sg1
lack to assemble my watercooling , hehehe >=D
I dunno I think everyone here assumes that mav is cheating and running benches with the same hardware under different names..
Your probably right, it just makes everyone turned off to the whole mbot idea which is too bad.
maverik-sg1
Greetings,
It is so nice that you appeared here! I want to ask you as one of EPUK members to do a favor for all the community. Please can you be so kind to REMOVE that LOADS of your and your teammates (just ask them to do this too, please:)) scores on front page in 2k1 ranking? First two pages of ORB contains TWENTY NINE (29 of 40!!!) scores from you, Gollum, scorchio and The Legend. Don't you think this is too much for FOUR people? For me it looks like just a lack of politeness and respect to other competitors. Usually when higher score is achieved then lower should be unpublished in ORB, that's traditional practice.
I also want to point that some of the scores posted under different names are really _too_ similar. I haven't seen such close range of results (and setups too!) from three different people during all these years of 3DMark benching and if someone will ask my personal opinion I also will note the strange coincidental appearance of three new names in TOP-10 with such similar setups... Anyway, we should investigate this more thoroughly. I can't claim you or your teammates as cheaters right now but the situation is strange enough.
I think that it would be very nice if you publish a pictures of your rig and gather photos of your teammates setups. The whole situation isn't too pleasant and I don't get any satisfaction from this case, if you are interested. You noticed right - ORB race is a hobby and no prizes/money involved here, we all do our best in benching just for pleasure and fun. But this "fun-oriented" society also prepare fair play game which satisfy everyone and is quite sensitive to different types of lies (cheating, bugged scores, etc.). In any way your 46k+ scores are impressive job and I applause you personally for this achievement. But as things are getting too complicated with all this EPUK stuff ATM, could you be so nice to prove somehow that there are really at least four of you in EPUK with so similar setups? As I mentioned before, to see pictures of your rigs would be very nice way to show everyone that scorchio, The Legend and Gollum aren't just a ghosts/bots in the ORB but real benchers of respectable skill and current situation is just a unfortunate misunderstanding.
P.S. Plz pardon me if my post looks messy - I'm just a bit drunk and _very_ tired after the night of streetracing...
CYK
Welcome to XS forums, mate! Feel yourself at home :)
ALT,
You said this very well, thanks for taking the time :)
Congrats on your new score as well :toast:
Mr ICEE a very respected and long time hand with benching was also questioning this situation. He posted some comments in one of their team threads over at EP.
http://www.extremeprometeia.com/foru...31&postcount=9
Quoted for your pleasure
Quote:
Originally Posted by MR ICEE
Thanks :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by ALT-F13
Well guys,
Mi Icee and I are the ones who instigated the clean out, the issue here is simple - before you judge why not pop over to EPUK and have a look at THE FULL STORY.
I will post piccies of my rig and I'll do scorchios too (over at EPUK that is), but as stated before I have to host his piccies and he is not very well versed in the ways of computing - although with my help and advice he is a force to be reckoned with.
To imply that we are in cahoots with admin in some sort of conspriacy is ludricous - you should be banned GZH for your own baseless accusations, this is not what forums are for.
Rig specs so similar becuase EPUK is a forum for a web-shop selling high end gear - the only UK place to get Mach2's from and it's the place to be in the UK if you own a high end system and want to learn something locally, the community is friendly, you hardly ever see the BS that GZH starts at EPUK.
The next statement is my thoughts on the similarirty of the specs:
Why do we have BH5? It's the best for benching, unless you have a cpu that can handle 300+mhz FSB (which most of the E4 revisions cant handle) we all know old skool BH5 is the best, the new stuff craps out mostly at 265ish and thats what ebay is for. The Bh5 I have is the best from a batch of around 8 sticks of 512MB although I just purchased gollums PC5000 TCCD to see if my CPU can handle the higher HTT.
Why FX55SD? Mostly coz I found that most fx57's will only clock as high as the FX55's under single stage phase- I couldn't justify the cost, I think if you read the EPUK forum, you'll see we all waited to see what the 57's were capable of, as it stands with the cooling we have it's capable of the same for an extra £250 - this was comunicated through our forum.
We all have DFI SLI-DR MOBO's - why, well we all have BH5 and the 4v DIMM rail is needed to sucessfully overclock BH5, plus their fookin good board (personally I have blown 3 up though LOL).
Why 7800GTX's - well right now, is there an alternative? no, I also found that even though all these other makes (probably with the exception of Dazbbots XFX Extreme 7800's) all clock the same if you use the modded BIOS - which we all do, I know we do coz Gollum4444 and Another (asked not to be named) distributed the file so we could all escape the cold bug. The only difference for the team is some have air cooling, most are watercooled, we all have phase.
Successful rigs breed, that is to say, think of your PC like a street racing car, the guys who are winning all the races - people want to see what under the hood and get the same - thats what has happened at EPUK, nothing more, nothing less.
I would have though that within a moddest budget thats the sort of system everybody aspires to have, I dont really think there's and alternative to have right now, cascade coolers are not readily available in the UK, well not until Fatty actaully get round to building one - And Intel are so far behind the game right now, it really is only AMD.
the only thing we seem to discuss at EPUK is which PSU to use??? LOL
I honestly can't believe that I have had to go through all this just to satisfy the curious, all you really need to do is pop over to epuk and have a looksie.
Most of the secrets of my success are posted for people to learn from and why not I consider myself to be the coach of EPUK 3d benchies, my results are class and I want the team to do well and guess what? They have followed my advice and congrats to them for the success we are enjoying right now, long may it last.
Scorchio and I play UT2004, add us to your buddies lists and check us out when we are online.
Now please, please move on from this and get to what really matters - BANNING GZH!!
One of the biggest quotes in history!! Anyhow, that the way to do things around here, ask politely! GZH could do with being banned until he learns some manners.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALT-F13
I will post a 'clean up ORB' thread so that any of the scores the EPUK members have published will no longer be published. It's not a lack of respect that they aint been cleaned up, lazy maybe, but so is not using filters - personally I dont see the issue, but it clearly is something your are not too keen on and you asked politely which is the right way.
Piccies of my rig will be posted on EPUK shortly and I'll drop a linky, scorchio will do the same, I got a piccie of gollums rig, its to fookin mess but at least u can see it. I can't speak for the other guys as we only seem to see them when the e-penis is enlarged.
I would expect the scores to be similar, I coached em all, they all have the tools, I taught them the skills so similar rigs get similar scores - I don't see the issue, but take the point you are trying to make.
I just feel that we are being persecuted for our the success, which I have to say, this is our time all we really want to do is enjoy it.
Nice scores Dude.
Mav
Mav, thank you for prompt reply.
Ok, the explanation of similar setups looks reasonable, you really picked a best setup for benching. Well, I even started a thread today when noticed that 18 of 20 people in TOP-20 used the same DFI mobos. Exceptions are k|ngp|n with P4C800-E and me with A8N-SLI Premium :D. BH-5 vs. TCCD is a flame issue ;) (i.e. DDR600 2,5-8-3-3-1T give better mem results for me) but once again your arguments are logical indeed. Truly if you have one hardware supplier and maintain good contacts between each other this situation may have place.
Of course, it still be great to see the pics, as you promised. Keep us updated.
"It's not a lack of respect that they aint been cleaned up, lazy maybe, but so is not using filters - personally I dont see the issue"
Well, of course I use filters :) But for years the whole community try to explain the new top-end benchers which jump to TOP-20 that the usual way is to have 1 published score per setup (i.e. that OK to publish 78GTX and X850XT scores simultaneously but not the 10+ "step-by-step-climbing-higher" history of almost identical scores). Just imagine if OPP will publish 20 scores in 47-48k range - ORB front page won't look nice then, right? This is not my personal craziness;) - just a normal way to behave on ORB. So I asked you just for maintaining the order not for my pleasure of giving you some stupid requests :) So thanks for understanding! Let's keep ORB clean!
Now let's move to the excellent accuracy of scores. Typically each bencher has its own tactics and tricks for system tweaking and performing a hi-score runs. BUT if you said that you shared the equal knowledge among all your teammates so each of you use maximum similar tweaks/etc then really with so similar setups everybody should get similar results. If this is true (sry, but I still can't believe this 100%) I can only take a hat off for such tight teamwork action! I wish that top XS members have this level of co-operation!
"Now please, please move on from this and get to what really matters - BANNING GZH!!"
Well, let me say straight. I must admit that G H Z is here on XS for quite a lot of time and proved himself as an adequate person, while you came here just recently and made some noise with all this EPUK story. Even if everything is ok with your team (and I hope that my belief in 3DMark fair play amongst top-end benchers won't hesitate this time:)) you probably understand that from different point of view and without further explanations your results really looks strange (i.e. I still don't understand why are you _all_ guys don't put any additional system info in project description:)). And please note that you also had that HWBOT double posted scores trouble recently... Of course, I'm not a admin/mod here but I totally don't see the reason for _banning_ G H Z because he have any "hard questions" to you... Yes, it is great when everything is dealt in peaceful, quiet and legitimate way but each of us is a human and can be emotional sometimes.
G H Z
Thx, bro!
HARDCORECLOCKER
Nice achievement with X850XT at that clocks!
[mbot]Alec - 26008 - Athlon 64 3200+ (Winchester) @ 2721MHz Radeon 9800Pro 495@385[/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8663755
It's very simple really. If you don't have server access you can't remove or edit a post without leaving the post edited message with the time. You can un-host the image but you'd still have a red x in the post. The post that had the schorchio image in it is totally clean.Quote:
Originally Posted by maverik-sg1
It's not that you and another guy runs BH-5, surely you can see that mav. Hell I run it myself. The point is that you and this mythical guy schorchio scores are both described as running "old skool BH-5" What he can't type now either? Oh yea, he is computer illiterate, but runs top end hardware, and lets you submit his scores, and host his images for him :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by maverik-sg1
You do have fatty vouching for you and that's in your favor, but until there is more clarity and pictures of each rig/cards/ect your wasting your breath.
My score 36755.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8668445
A64 @ 2,9 Pov 7800 GTX sli std cooling.
2x 512 OCZ 4000 VX 2-2-2-7
[mbot]Dynasty - 44128 -Fx 55 SD@3385,BFG-7800GTX-SLI 504/1400 [/mbot]
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8675758
Cooled by:Mach II GT/r507/Baker
Nice score, Dynasty!
Looks like 1-2 more results in this range and we'll return the #1 for XS.
@ Alt F13 - Not intentionally to dis you friend on the FM ORB issue - wot I meant to say is It's not important to me, but I see your point and will make the necessary changes ;)
The top 10 3dmarkers in epuk are really tight and I do really coach all of them, remember we are only a small community with perhaps 15 active benchers.
What I am able to explain in writing I do so in the forum, in fact I think a few of your guys have recently used my tips page to fuerther their scores - of course to remain no1 you have to keep some tricks/tactics to yourself but 95% of them are public knowledge on EPUK.
I see your point about GZH - in fact I am warming to him now actually.
Cheers
Mav (The coach)
@ GZH -The easy thing for me and scorchio having similar systems is that its easy for either of us to cut and paste the mbot sentence and change names and scores. Also the term 'old skool' comes from our history of being hard core clubbers in the early 90's the term old skool is used to remember the halcyon days of dance music.
Nice scores Dynasty, keep going!!
Mav
Thx guys, haven't done much 01 runs since FX53/x800xt pe days.
But, I am getting there. :cool:
:D Anyone knows what's up with the mbot update? :confused: :confused: :confused:
Score is gettin' updated but the compare link isn't so it shows the new score with the old link........ :stick:
:toast:
Mav's Rig:
http://www.extremeprometeia.com/foru...3672#post23672
Gollums rig:
http://www.extremeprometeia.com/foru...ead.php?t=2985
More to follow.
Mav :fact: