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Originally posted by xttz
I have Sapphire 9800Pro with R360 Chipsat but i have a different cooler on it!!! Like normal one!!! But i looked at chipsat and it was R360!!! Can someone xplain to me!!! how can i open a Temeperature on it? I already Flashed it to the XT!!! ;)
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Originally posted by xttz
I have Sapphire 9800Pro with R360 Chipsat but i have a different cooler on it!!! Like normal one!!! But i looked at chipsat and it was R360!!! Can someone xplain to me!!! how can i open a Temeperature on it? I already Flashed it to the XT!!! ;)
:D xttz, you should use an online translator ;)Quote:
Originally posted by xttz
I have Sapphire 9800Pro with R360 Chipsat but i have a different cooler on it!!! Like normal one!!! But i looked at chipsat and it was R360!!! Can someone xplain to me!!! how can i open a Temeperature on it? I already Flashed it to the XT!!! ;)
So can u help me? why it is R360
You are all sow smart!!! LOL If im noob!!! LOL. I just cant understand why Sapphire is puting R360 on PRO? Does some one know?
come on over to the irc's, we will help ya.
irc.quakenet.org
#xtremesystems
I flashed it!!! but i cant see the temperature! who can help me?
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Originally posted by xttz
I flashed it!!! but i cant see the temperature! who can help me?
unless your pro has the XT layout you cant see the temperature. I dont see the importance of measuring it though
ok thanks guys ;)
I have noticed that the ASUS 256MB card is sopposed to be a XT degraded also, but will it overclock better?
Anyone know the results? Has it been seen with max OC?
I want to make the jump to a 256MB version, but I have Tyan 9800Pro right now and able to OC to 440/380 with stock cooling with no artifiacts. I haven't tried to max it out down to the last mhz, but I do know at 445mhz core it starts to show artifacts and at 385mhz mem it starts showing artifacts also...
My temps according the the monitor show mid to high 50C on the core and 40C on the memory, but I know for a fact that this inaccurate.
It shows 1.66v on the core and 2.91v on the mem core. I had an Tyan 9700pro at 1.9vcore and was able to run it at 420mhz with stock cooling in 3dmark, but with artifacts, only 405mhz w/o artifacts.
If no one knows how well the Asus 9800pro 256mb does?, maybe I'll take plunge.........
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:toast: just got it from newegg, works very nicely.. gotta love $300 9800 XT's
anyone know if it would be better to slap on some arctic silver 5 instead of the thermal compound that comes with the arctic cooler?
thanks to this thread and others like it, the Sapphire card is now $310 instead of $275 like 1 week ago!
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lol when was it ever $275? was that for the refurbs?Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
thanks to this thread and others like it, the Sapphire card is now $310 instead of $275 like 1 week ago!
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The card dropped $10 in price TO $309/312 OEM/Retail many weeks ago shortly after this thread started. It has not changed since, and was never 275.Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
thanks to this thread and others like it, the Sapphire card is now $310 instead of $275 like 1 week ago!
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Actually the OEM is down to $302 now which is the lowest ever.
as i was saying
anyone know if it would be better to slap on some arctic silver 5 instead of the thermal compound that comes with the arctic cooler?
I got mine on friday from the egg. They charge tax in TN now :mad: . Anyway, I ordered the retail sapphire 256mb. It's a 9800xt just like the pictures at the beginning. Unfortunately, at normal room temps I cannot reach 412 core with the stock cooling. When I left the window open last night, I was able to reach 423 with the stock cooling.
Quick question, will the vga silencer fit this? I know they are supposed to fit 9800pro's, but this is the XT pcb. I ordered a rev2 already with some ocz copper ramsinks, but want to be reassured before it gets here.
yep they will work perfectly. I was skeptical about this before but it fits like a glove :)Quote:
Originally posted by StrongBadia
I got mine on friday from the egg. They charge tax in TN now :mad: . Anyway, I ordered the retail sapphire 256mb. It's a 9800xt just like the pictures at the beginning. Unfortunately, at normal room temps I cannot reach 412 core with the stock cooling. When I left the window open last night, I was able to reach 423 with the stock cooling.
Quick question, will the vga silencer fit this? I know they are supposed to fit 9800pro's, but this is the XT pcb. I ordered a rev2 already with some ocz copper ramsinks, but want to be reassured before it gets here.
I can't wait till the XT copper silencer comes out
The Silencer Rev 3 will be copper ? Scheduled release ? :D
Rev 3 is already out and is aluminum.
Yeah the revision 3 is the same thing, just adds support for 9600's
Hi all...
well here is the thing.., im finaly going to get my old ti4200 a break, and upgrade and then this.... what to do ?
what i need to hear is that this really is worth the extra $ since in Denmark where im from the difference is between a std 128mb pro and the "XT"->pro version is like $160 which i think is alot of money, for just some extra ram.....
9800PRO 128MB = $280
9800PRO->XT 256MB = $450
so seriosly is it worth it, mind you that i proberly wont be going for the new chip from ati anytime soon...
and from what i can read in this thread, people aint going as high as a standard PRO which is kinda not good...
any thoughts ?
regards
B/
For the huge price difference, i don't think 256MB of memory is worth it right now ...
If you play games at high res and high AA/AF (basically everything cranked) it is.
Received and installed my VGA silencer today. It dropped my temps by 7C idle and 14C load. I can only go up to 428 on my core though :( . This thing is begging to be volt-modded, but I can't do it. I am happy though, my only goal was to get a perfectly working 9800XT for the price of a 9800pro. In that area, I succeded :) .
Yeah I got mine last week and it doesn't OC as well as the older models im thinking.. I'm not sure if a volt mod will improve anything, its already steamy hott.. i think ill wait until they get that XT silencer out
Right now the highest I can reach stable is 420/380
my 9800pro with R360 core can do 440/370 without the mod and after it can do 465/385 the ram will not go any higher even if i push 3.20v :/ so right now its at 2.95v and the GPu is at 1.80v.
are now all 9800 Pro have the R360 Core
or only the Version with 256 MB Ram ?
Most 9800Pro's now are coming with r360 cores / both 128 and 256MB ...
Are you talking only sapphire here or other brands also ...Quote:
Originally posted by LilGator
Most 9800Pro's now are coming with r360 cores / both 128 and 256MB ...
I'm getting myself a Club3D that's why :stick:
Hello everyone,
I purchased the Sapphire 9800 Pro 256Mb from www.newegg.com (for $268 USA if I remember correctly). After installing, someone on here pointed me to this thead. The picture above looked very much like the card I purchased, so I decided to throw caution to the wind and try to flash the BIOS.
I found a modified BIOS for the Sapphire 9800 XT 256 MB @ http://www.ocfaq.com/softmod/bios.php. I also downloaded the ATIFlash v1.6 (found on the bottom of the page), copied both to a floppy and booted to DOS for some flashing. I made a backup of the original bios first (atiflash -s 0 backup.bin) then flashed the new BIOS (using the FORCE option). Rebooted into Windows XP. As the desktop was loading I saw the "Found New Hardware: Radeon 9800 XT" message as Windows loaded it's generic drivers. I redownloaded the newest drivers from the ATI Website and installed them and rebooted. First boot up did not go as planned. When I got to the logon screen for Windows, my color depth was only 8bit. I logged in and soon my monitor went whack on me. I had to pull the plug and count to 10 then plug the machine back in. When it booted this time, I again got 8bit color depth, but my monitor didn't go whack. I went into the display settings and changed it back to 32bit color and readjusted the monitor size for both monitors as needed. All works fine now. Under Display Settings/Advanced/Adapter, windows reports it as
(Before Flashing):
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Chip Type: Radeon 9800 Pro AGP (0x4E4A)
DAC Type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Memory Size: 256 MB
Adapater String: RADEON 9800 Pro
Bios Information: BK-ATI VER008.015.068.000
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(After Flashing)
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Chip Type: Radeon 9800 XT AGP (0x4E4A)
DAC Type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Memory Size: 256 MB
Adapater String: RADEON 9800 XT
Bios Information: BK-ATI VER008.015.048.000
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I do not see any additional options (as I hoped for) under Display Settings/Advanced (like Core Speed) so I do not know if this was actually flashed to be and perform like a true Radeon 9800 XT or its still operating as as Radeon 9800 Pro with a different BIOS string.
Are there any utilities that I can download and test out the performance and internal information for the Radeon (like Memory Clock, Card ID, Core Clock, Memory, etc).
The difference (if I read it correctly) should be:
9800 Pro: Core Clock: 378Mhz - Memory Clock: 338MHz
9800 XT: Core Clock: 412Mhz - Memory Clock: 365Mhz
BTW: the Bios title for 9800 Pro should have read: "R360 Hynix DDR BIOS W THERMAL CONTROL - P/N 113-A18805-105 (using Hynix 2.5)" and the Bios title for 9800 XT should read "RADEON 9800 113-A18807-100 BIOS" (not sure what memory). I do not know how this relates to DDR2 memory.
If I can find any utilities for testing the above information I will post my findings here ASAP.
Thanks to the original poster for finding this and starting the thread.
*added*
Running ATITool 0.0.19:
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DeviceID: 4E4A
Chip Type: R360
Memory Size: 256 MB
Memory Bus Width: 256MB
Active Pipelines: 8
Default GPU Clock: 412.00 Mhz
Default Mem Clock: 365.00 Mhz
I am running the Find Max Core/Find Max Memory functions tonight and will post any new findings.
It seems any new 9800 Pro's are shipping with R360 cores, if you get something stuck on a shelf somewhere you might get a R350, which would be better IMHO on a 128MB card ;)Quote:
Originally posted by CrimInalA
Are you talking only sapphire here or other brands also ...
I'm getting myself a Club3D that's why :stick:
do i get this right. your card still shows as 9800pro? if so, did you remove the old display drivers (completely)?. could help. i removed my complete cats + cp and reinstalled the latest ones at the time 4.2 or 4.3 (dunno). with cp4.2 came the overdrive tab - and as you flashed it to 9800 xt, it should give you the temp-diagnosis and the enable overdrive thing, which basically is crap as it will not go much higher than default (418 core, irrc). so once you flashed you should be reading 9800xt in the control panel.Quote:
Originally posted by WoodyNY
Hello everyone,
[...]
I do not see any additional options (as I hoped for) under Display Settings/Advanced (like Core Speed) so I do not know if this was actually flashed to be and perform like a true Radeon 9800 XT or its still operating as as Radeon 9800 Pro with a different BIOS string.
Are there any utilities that I can download and test out the performance and internal information for the Radeon (like Memory Clock, Card ID, Core Clock, Memory, etc).
The difference (if I read it correctly) should be:
9800 Pro: Core Clock: 378Mhz - Memory Clock: 338MHz
9800 XT: Core Clock: 412Mhz - Memory Clock: 365Mhz
BTW: the Bios title for 9800 Pro should have read: "R360 Hynix DDR BIOS W THERMAL CONTROL - P/N 113-A18805-105 (using Hynix 2.5)" and the Bios title for 9800 XT should read "RADEON 9800 113-A18807-100 BIOS" (not sure what memory). I do not know how this relates to DDR2 memory.
If I can find any utilities for testing the above information I will post my findings here ASAP.
Thanks to the original poster for finding this and starting the thread.
I am running the Find Max Core/Find Max Memory functions tonight and will post any new findings.
if you want to check on detailed temps and such install rivatuner. you'll be able to check on both clocks and the core-temperature as well as ambient.
a good tool to test is the one you're already using - ati-tool. plus a round of 3d-benching 03 preferably proxycon, trolls & mother nature (most likely to see sparkles in the water) or aquamark, tho that always ran with higher clocks for me without showing sparkles, but it's easier to detect them there as it is mostly displaying darker colors.
/edited all my typos.. dammit have to stop typing when i'm dead tired.. lol
The only new option you will see is the Overdrive tab. If you install and use the Omega version of the drivers, and install the optional Radlinker, the clock speeds will show in your driver panel on the Radlinker tab. Also just so you know its not DDR2, its Hynix 2.5ns DDR.Quote:
Originally posted by WoodyNY
I do not see any additional options (as I hoped for) under Display Settings/Advanced (like Core Speed) so I do not know if this was actually flashed to be and perform like a true Radeon 9800 XT or its still operating as as Radeon 9800 Pro with a different BIOS string.
Are there any utilities that I can download and test out the performance and internal information for the Radeon (like Memory Clock, Card ID, Core Clock, Memory, etc).
The difference (if I read it correctly) should be:
9800 Pro: Core Clock: 378Mhz - Memory Clock: 338MHz
9800 XT: Core Clock: 412Mhz - Memory Clock: 365Mhz
BTW: the Bios title for 9800 Pro should have read: "R360 Hynix DDR BIOS W THERMAL CONTROL - P/N 113-A18805-105 (using Hynix 2.5)" and the Bios title for 9800 XT should read "RADEON 9800 113-A18807-100 BIOS" (not sure what memory). I do not know how this relates to DDR2 memory.
Also if ATITool says you are running at 412/365 your card was flashed correctly. 3DMark will also detect it as a 9800XT.
has artic cooling released a hsf for us modders? i want one so badly
as i can see you have searched a lot for pro @ XT,does anyone know which is the best performance bios for that mod?
stop digging up old threads :nono: let it die :fact: