i have problems with OC on mem and chip and got tired to test it and fail, 1101 is fine and the best still 0904 pitty it dont have the rapid boot options cauz its still the best bios for M5GQuote:
Originally Posted by hersounds
Cheers !
Sergio
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i have problems with OC on mem and chip and got tired to test it and fail, 1101 is fine and the best still 0904 pitty it dont have the rapid boot options cauz its still the best bios for M5GQuote:
Originally Posted by hersounds
Cheers !
Sergio
I come to 0904 to testing again
yep as i said before the best bios i tested...Quote:
Originally Posted by hersounds
Sergio, were you able to flash back with EZ flash or did you have to use an USB drive in the ROG connect USB port for that? I have a feeling the difference is just in the LLC settings. 0078 required "high" to get the Vcore stable, all others seem to require "ultra high".
So far 1204 seems not too bad for me, i didn't have to raise Vcore for my daily 4.8GHz, in fact i lowered it a notch but my ram seemed a little unstable with the settings i used with other bios'.
It's a pity this board doesn't have dual bios so one can test bios' side by side.
i agree with you mate in fact im not complaining much about vcore cauz my chip like high vcore but for mem stability yes...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
i use ROG to flash yes as im using new raid rom with it
yes its a pity not dual bios :(
cheers mate
Sergio
On Bios 1204 right now but want to try 0904 , Not able to downgrade bios in Asus Update, should i go thrue bios and flash instead and put the bios on a USB-storage?
No mate, here's what to do:
-Format a USB drive in FAT format.
-Extract bios of choice (0904 in your case) and put it on root of the USB drive
-Rename bios M5G.CAP
-Make sure system is off, PSU plugged in and power cord in
-Put USB drive in the white ROG connect USB port
-Hold the ROG connect button for a couple of seconds until the red LED next to the bios chip starts flashing
-Let it run for a couple of minutes until LED stops flashing
-Turn system on with USB drive still in place
-Be patient, the system will now install bios
-The system will restart automatically and update iROG after that
-Grab a beer and enjoy "new" old bios.
Good luck
Thanks worked perfect, back on 0904 now. To bad my mem wont go any higher. I want to try out my Samsung HCH9 more, is it any difference between slots when overclocking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
You're welcome. ;)
I haven't noticed much difference between the black or red slots.
edit: what timings, speed and volts are you running on the Sammies?
Well iīm not good at all to overclock mem but 2000mhz 8-9-9-28 with around 1.6v i think i did. Over that and windows crashes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
As you can see in this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...B&daysprune=30 the generic Samsung ram is pretty overclockable. Personally i think 1.6V is somewhat conservative. I wouldn't be afraid to give this ram 1.7-1.75V for daily use. But that is up to you of course. ;)
Yea seen that thread, but i dont know what iīm doing wrong since i cant go over 2000mhz, doesnīt matter on what timings i useQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Well mate, just load Samsung medium profile, set 1.7V and you should be able to at least run 2200, if not 2400.
I raised voltage to 1.75 now and boom :) 2600mhz 11-12-12-25-1TQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2489318
Haha, good job! Is it stable?
Lowered the voltage to 1.7 , but couldnīt pass SuperPI 16MB . It maybe want more volt or some timings is wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
EDIT: btw , to get that samsung profile i have to move a jumper on the board right?
No mate, just go to Extreme Tweaker menu, DRAM Timing Control, Memory preset. Hit enter and you will find a number of presets. Choose Samsung Medium. That's all, no jumpers need to be touched.
Having an issue with my new MVG, swapped from an Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 and like the results so far (lower volts & temps for same OC) but I can't quite stabilize my 4.9GHz 3770k OC that was stable on the old board. Can pass IBT maximum but not P95 blend, will fail randomly with a c00000005 error and constant WHEA errors "internal parity error" (no more BSODs just a prime95.exe has stopped working message). Running the following via BIOS/TurboV Evo:
49x multi all cores
BCLK 100.1
HT Off
C3 & C6 off
LLC 1 down from maximum
vcore 1.435 (1.44-1.448 under load)
DDR 1.745
VCCSA 1.225
VCCIO 1.23125
PLL 1.8
I'm running 8GB TridentX 2800 c11 @ 2600 10-12-12-32-1T (IMC won't drive much more than 2600). Not dropping my RAM speed/timings any further, not going to settle for less after paying as much for my RAM as I did for my CPU. Any suggestions?
Load temps only hit 68 C on the hottest core after ~ half hour blend test, this is on custom water cooling, lapped IHS + waterblock, and Liquid Pro under the IHS.
@techguy2k5....Your ram should be stable @ 2600 with less than 1.65V and autos on vccsa, vccio and vtt and cas 11-13-13-35.
You will need unnecessary high vdimm to run hynix based tridentX 2800 @ cas 10
so load the xmp profile and try for 2600? I'd like to go for tighter timings than that if possible, seems a waste to me but I will definitely take your advice and start testing stability, thanks.
Just tried that and now trying to OC again, having an issue with vcore using TurboV, it spikes up to dangerously high levels as soon as I apply any additional vcore. Is this LLC at work? Example: my target voltage is in the 1.44-1.45 range and I need to set approximately 1.33 to get there! That's a .12v spike!
Also still getting WHEA errors but less frequent now. Have RAM set to XMP profile and auto VDIMM, VCCSA, VCCIO, VTT, vcore manually set to 1.345 via TurboV (goes up to 1.46).
For 4.8ish I just load gamer oc setting in bios and enabled pll overvoltage if necessary
That's all that's needed for 4.8? Really want 4.9+ though, as I said, I had an Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 that could hit 4.9 and 2600 c10-1t and pass p95 blend for at least 1.5 hours before, IBT Max. stable also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
A bit more testing now, loaded the gamer OC profile as you suggested (thanks Dumo) and changed all multipliers to 49, LLC to ultra high (or whatever the one just below extreme is) and manually applied voltage of 1.46 and it's looking good now. WHEA errors are no longer occurring (so far) and voltage is rock solid at 1.472 under load and 1.448 at idle. Going to try to increase bclk to get slightly higher core & mem speeds. Any suggestions there? Where should I try to tighten the timings on my TridentX for speed near 2600? Thanks a million!
hey mate theres quite a jump in volts from 4.8 or 4.9 to 5GHz if you want to keep 5GHz stable you will need to use LLC on xtreme and offset vcore, i know a lot of 24/7 testing as i do game a lot heavy games on 2560x1440 native res and SLI, i tested 3570K and now 3770K and both are hunger when on 5GHzQuote:
Originally Posted by techguy2k5
Thanks Andres, I've observed the huge jump in vcore required with each 100MHz bump in clock speed also. Quite disappointing but as long as I can keep it below 1.5 I'm ok with it, especially with temps maxing out around 70 under Prime/IBT. You must have quite the CPU to hit 5GHz with HT and 2800 mem speed! Color me jealous :p
Grr, this is frustrating. I think I've finally found stable settings but I've lost performance in IBT with mem @ 2600 c11 (was able to drop command rate to 1t though). Was at a constant 140GFLOPs in maximum stress test mode before with mem @ c10 and now it's "only" 137. Bclk seems like it's not going to be adjustable either. It's not the worst thing that can happen or anything, it's just disappointing to have spent more on a replacement board and somehow lost performance... Any thoughts on other timings I can adjust to regain that performance without likely affecting stability? I'll test of course, just looking for a place to start testing is all. Thanks.
Imo, try other bench programs like hyper pi or even super pi 32m or even gaming (with oc'd setting) if it will make up a bit of oc dissapointment.Quote:
Originally Posted by techguy2k5
Just my 2c:)
heh, yeah that's an option but now it's not stable anymore either :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
This is so strange... I keep playing with LLC and fixed voltage and it seems like the voltage fluctuates more depending on what fixed voltage I set. Right now testing @ 1.44 and holding 1.44-1.448 under Ultra High LLC, seems to be stable. Extreme LLC pushes that up by as much as another .04, pushing temps up another 3-4 degrees unnecessarily. I think I'm back on track for stability but the performance drop bothers me. So many variables here, can't figure out why it would've been stable before and not now...
And randomly it's passing again, with voltages no longer fluctuating. Something's not right here. Could it be BIOS? I saw the 0904 BIOS is preferred and I flashed to that at one point but thought it was responsible for the huge voltage spikes in TurboV so I switched back to the latest 12xx BIOS (BIOS not responsible for voltage spikes, BTW).
@tech
what i do its use BF3 to tune the OC...see BF3 will not load maps and will error if not stable, then you should play if you cannot complete a game then u need still a bump, when you are able to game for some hour then you are done...i prefeer this method than prime
and...as my friend Dumo says first steps try hyperpi and other programs then you go to game, prime its for under 5GHz inmo
then when you are ok with LOAD vcore you put it offset and you can also make profiles on AI SUITE for GAME, NORMAL etc...
good luck
Cheers !!!
Sergio
Andres, my only real use for this machine is flight simulator, so extreme stress tests are probably not the best way to test, as you suggest. However, I can't risk crashing in the middle of a long flight or corrupting my 100GB+ FSX install with many add-ons so I have to be completely sure of the stability before I "put it into production", so to speak. I'm going to start over and see what I can do, backing RAM off to default timings and 2600 clock disappointing as it is. Thanks for all the help to both you and Dumo, I'll report back results when I'm all done!
Update: dropped RAM all the way down to 1600 and started testing all over again with CPU @ 4.9, was getting errors in IBT so upped vcore from 1.330 to 1.335 in TurboV and that was all it needed. Going to start testing settings necessary to bump up RAM speed again and hope for the best.
Turns out it wasn't stable after all. With my old board I needed right around 1.48V vcore for 4.9GHz and I was hoping to need a little less with this board due to it's excellent power regulation, I guess that's just not going to be the case as I continued to get infrequent WHEA errors and crashes even at a seemingly stable voltage around 1.45-1.46. So I've started over and am isolating the elements. Focusing on RAM speed now at around 2650 (2600 in BIOS and bclk @ 102 via TurboV) with 11-13-13-28-1t and stock volts, auto vccsa & vccio.
Thanks again for all the help, I think I'll get to my target RAM & CPU speeds but it's just going to take some doing.
inmo you are wasting your time using IBT or LINX and also degrading your chip
just try FLY SIM and thats all
I see people are still waisting their time and precious cycles trying to figure out how to lower the vcore with 0.01 sigh... if that is gonna make a world of difference in power consumption or heat output... and not even one of the best boards around is gonna lower Vcore demand with 0.1, you have me really puzzled techie...
I'm focusing more now on making sure I don't have errors due to running the RAM at settings it can't handle, I'll settle the CPU OC back in around 4.9GHz at whatever volts it needs (hopefully still less than 1.5). I wasn't expecting a full tenth of a volt drop from the MVG, btw, more like a hundredth or two.
I just don't know what to think of this board anymore. I could always run HyperPi at 2666 C10 without trouble. Then one day out of the blue this isn't stable anymore, i even had a hard time getting HyperPi to finish at 2600 C10. Tried all sort of things, tried several bios' but changing over to the red ram slots helped a great deal. Suddenly it ran SuperPi 32M at 2800 C11 LB 6.
Then the next day when i try again it's not stable anymore. wtf? Changing ram back to the black slots didn't seem to help. 2666 seemed stable with the rams in the red slots but when i try to boot at 2800 the board keeps rebooting! Then i try to boot at 2933 and it boots straight into Windows! I could even run SuperPi 1M at that speed. After that i was able to boot at 2800 again but still not 32M stable.
What the f is going on with my board? I'm using bios 1204 atm. Anyone else with similar experience?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ps19e4d89a.png
w0w ...think I'm still on 078 or 9 somethin' ........... :D
Have you taken it cold?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
I had one that was a tank, and the other one broke after one session of cold no kidding, one day it would not turn on however there was power to the board and all leds were lit up. Also I was able to clear cmos but the power on button nor the header was able to start it, so just weridness all around sort of like your issue. Andressergio had the same issue I believe, maybe something to do with retraining IMC during booting with different straps / settings?
what vccio and vccsa?
Tried that one either Pete, turned out to be one of the best bios' i've tried. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Expat GriZ
l0ud, i think both were set somewhere around 1.15V but i've tried raising them both without luck. Haven't taken the board cold.
Gonna try clear cmos now and start over again.
Swapped my RAM out for 2600 C10 instead since there's no point in having 2800 stuff with my chip. Trying to OC again and now the system restarts during heavy stress testing (IBT Maximum). Any thoughts? What BIOS setting could be responsible for causing the system to restart when hitting heavy load? It's not over-heating, max. temp is ~75-80 @ 4.9-4.95GHz with voltage 1.48-1.51. OCing using Turbo V, which worked fine up until the RAM swap out, have done plenty of RAM testing and am running it basically at stock (BCLK 101 so 1% OC). I turned off all power saving features except C1E, including disabling Speedstep and all other C states.
Re-tested without using Turbo V, forcing only 3.9GHz from BIOS. Still shuts down during IBT maximum. WTF?
LLC? If you don't set it to ultra high it will droop and might go lower than what your cpu needs.
Anybody else who tried Bios 1302 ? Known Issues ? Feel free to join and report.
Download:
http://www.uploadarea.de/upload/upzu...u4qoej9vy.html
Where did you find it?Does it have any release notes?
SB got it from Asus Support due to some serious Post-issues with 1204 - it works i have flashed it - thought i share it and let you guys try it too.
Nice :) What issues does it fix?Would help for others who have simmilar issues.
any changelog and data about 1302 bios?
if i had one i would have provided it ... sorry guys.
Well what were you problems reported to asus support so that they gave you this bios ? :)
I wouldn't flash it before you know for sure it's okay. 1204 seemed okay but DDR2800 strap sucked. Maybe this problem still persist in this 1302 bios?
@Zeus
its ok - if it wasnt - would i have been able to flash it ?! and as u know there is always a way back with USB Flashback. ;)
got to try yourself - i doubt that there are many people around who got CPU with HQ imc/memory - so they could try 2800.
@Alex-Ro provided by SB who had Boot/Post issues and got it from Asus Support
Maybe Raja can chime in with a changelog :)
904 still best for gene. 1101 needs a bump on volts ans 1204 really bad spikes on volts llc aint good so mayne this 1302 is the answer
1101 is best for 2800Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
I use 1101 for 2800 without troubles...but i'm flash & testing 1302 today
You guys are running Hynix based ram, Samsung might be different?
samsung just use another numbers settings in timings zeus but will be the same
Look this maybe can help you ( ues is formula but is the same don't worry )
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread...C-Tuning-Guide
So I think I've finally got things stable again, needed to reset and start over. Chip needs more voltage for 4.9GHz now than it did a few months ago when I first water cooled it, fortunately it's de-lidded with liquid pro and lapped so heat still isn't an issue but I'm now @ 1.5V for IBT/Prime stability where I was closer to 1.47-1.48 before. I believe the use of the Asus Turbo V software has caused this as there were a few times that I used it and it applied massively more voltage than I called for, spiking up to 1.68V when I asked for 1.48V. Anyone else run into this?
Maximus V Gene bios modded ( 10/05/12 )
bios 1309 - (iRST OROM 11.6.0.1702 + vbios 2137)
download http://rghost.ru/41016122
Anyone tested 1309?So far it seems stable with same setting as 1101...
I run 1309 atm and its completely stable. I have no issues at all. I also need a little less vcore than 11 and 12 bios.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
Maximus V Gene will not go to sleep on bios 1309!
I updated to bios version 1309 and have the same setting as I did on older bios versions, but now the computer refuses to go into sleep mode !
Even when i force it to go to sleep by pressing the sleep button on my keyboard! It just wakes up again!
Anyone else have the same problem
Ps. I am 100% sure I have the same settings as i had on bios version 913 because I have them all written down!
Please advise
I got same problem with Maximus V Formula, same bios dosen't go to sleep wakes up..
Can you check your Windows Control Panel advanced power settings and see if sleep timers are enabled? If so disable...
No they are not just chcked. Btw i did not made ANY CHANGES, just updates bios that is all. Dosen't go to sleep anymore. Again i repeat I DID NOT MADE ANY OTHER CHANGES.
Repeat it one more time for me please :D
Unplug devices one by one and see which one is causing it (if any). Once you know let me know and I will ask HQ.
I will :) Ok Raja so things are like this, i've enabled Offset voltage (instead of manual voltage) and now sleep works fine it does not wake up anymore so things are back to normal i guess :D
Just noticed that a new bios(1408)was recently posted on the official Asus download page(11/15/2012).
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Int...GENE/#downloadQuote:
MAXIMUS V GENE BIOS 1408
1.Improve system stability.
2.Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...Language=en-us
Has any one tested this new bios? Are there any real improvements?
Good news testing later
can you post direct link to bios download, i don't know why but I can't access to bios download...thanks buddy!
Edit
Solved! downloaded without troubles
Has anyone tested the new BIOS 1408 to see if Trim is working with RAID0?
If not can someone mod it to include the latest iRST OROM? The link above for BIOS 1309 with modded iRST OROM is not working. I am using bios 1209 with modded iRST OROM with TRIM enabled but want to flash to either 1309 or 1408 but dont want to loose TRIM.
EDIT:
I got bios 1408 modded with latest iRST from Kingping Cooling.
Did u used this method as described on kingping forum? PS flash with ROG flashback procedureQuote:
Originally Posted by deachus
I downloaded modded 1408 bios, copied to USB flash drive formated as FAT32 and used ROG Flashback procedure.
1408 adds support for new CPUs? Is Haswell coming early?
Edit: oops I forgot Haswell gets a new socket, so what is the added support for?
:D
I need help with this board. Can some of you guys post your bios settings with high overclocked 3770ks and 16gb of ram(i have the lv Samsungs).
Why don't use ROG Exchange buddy?...you can search bios profile compatible with your system,dowload and put in use ( check compatibility before )Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
http://www.firegoon.com/images/1zvyp52.png
( Nobody download my 4300 @ 1.090 Vcore - CPU PLL 1.40 Vcore bios profile...i'm sad! )
Rog Exchange link
http://rog.asus.com/rog-pro/rog-exchange/
WTF is that? Sharing preset bioses? What a mad idea, I'm definitely going to give this a go.
:D
I have this issue with saving my bios. I can change everything in the bios, save a profile, load a profile, load preset values but when i press F10 to save and exit it freeze and after 5-10 sec my pc shut down. If i try again i have the same issue, if i let it boot normally it loads win7 and run everything like it should. Any ideas?
Same words : use rog exchange,search similar profile with the speed that you want or be close, then load profile reset and try againQuote:
Originally Posted by ChaosAD
Found a new bios 1502 when i was checking Rog Exchange , but right now the link seems broken http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2151096
any other links for 1502 bios?
Maybe someone can upload it here as soon as the ftp works.
If u check Rog Exchange and Gene V with all cpus there is a 1502 bios. Using 1408 today but is there any better bios before this, maybe recuiers less volt etc ?
1502 Bios that show ROG EXCHANGE is a beta bios and not public at the moment....this link was posted before, is old dated from 2011 and of course don't work
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2151096
we talk about another 1502 bios file "original"from 2011 and this last one (that you see in rog exchange ) in beta state and not public condition
Any news about test bios 1502?
1604 bios for maximus V gene came out today.
Anyone tried it yet?
do you have any link? I don't see anything on rog page, just only the 1604 V extreme editionQuote:
Originally Posted by w4tch0
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread...untry=&status=
EDIT
here the link for V Gene
http://support.asus.com/Download.asp...-ASUS-1604.zip
I installed, same that last bios, nothing new, I boot 4.0 Ghz same vcores,same temps, same results on AIDA 64...date are 12/21/2012
New bios for VGene users
Version 1802
Description MAXIMUS V GENE BIOS 1802
Optimize BIOS configuration
2013.06.06
https://www.asus.com/ROG_ROG/MAXIMUS...rt_Download_30
Maximus V Gene bios 1802 - 1413 ram Air easily / Avexir MPower Cas11
http://www.firegoon.com/u/sbw8h.jpg
hi guys, which's best bios for Maximus V Gene under LN2? i use 1802 but i have some problem....
I have this board...I water cool the vrms (thanks EK), and I water cool the cpu and memory (thanks XSPC...truly the best bang for the buck and very high quality). That said, I have overclocked the 3570k to 4.7GHZ 24/7 stable and the 3770k I have only tried 4.7GHZ thus far (I just got it) but I got it stable at 1.28 V-core my first try. I have had the board for 6-months now and never had a single issue...it's just stable and easy to over-clock, hell the clear CMOS button is easy to hit as it is mounted on the I/O panel. I like the Gene so much I designed and built a fully modular aluminum case for Micro-ATX since I plan on just getting the latest Gene board whenever I upgrade...the case I built will last forever (1/4-20 aluminum knurled thumb screws are used for mounting everything...with the exception of manufacturer tapped m3 and 6/32 screws for the drives, usb-3 i/o, and psu. Sorry, I'm a little to proud of my case...but I love this board, it's constant Bios updates to improve stability and new CPUs, and overall Asus quality and dedication to overclocking enthusiasts...you get it all with this board...and for only @ $200...Wow!
They just released a 1903 bios to update performance/stability.
http://support.asus.com/download.asp...8FqqcmVLDbZLyx