Cost me considerably less than that to import a kit. Mind you ocuk have never been shy of making a fast buck. Their in house testing is probably info gleaned from this thread :lol:.
Cost me considerably less than that to import a kit. Mind you ocuk have never been shy of making a fast buck. Their in house testing is probably info gleaned from this thread :lol:.
Where did you buy yours? I've been trying to get my hands on a kit or two for quite some time now but it's hard to find a good deal (with shipping to Sweden included). Any tips?Quote:
Originally Posted by PiLsY
Im not sure about shipping to Sweden but when Amazon.com themselves have stock its available in the international section. Its hard to say where theyll ship as every item is different. Also the import fees are paid at checkout but if its wrong you have to pay the extra, keep the receipt and get amazon to refund you.
If I was you Id go for the new Crucial stuff instead - the 9-9-9-27 rated 1866mhz kits. They seem to do as well or better (depending on your mobo anyway, anything below Deluxe level for Asus is typically incapable again, works great on ROG tho) and are way more easily available.
If you need low profile ram though there really is no substitute :up:.
[EDIT - Just checked Amazon and they have stock but I get the "We are unable to ship this item to your default shipping address" message. Maybe no longer available international if a few people ordered them and they got hit for loads of fees refunds or something?]
ordering from usa is risky of custom fee tax.
What voltage have people got these to be stable at with stock speed and timings? I know this is extreme bandwidth, but I am still curious. I just got the kit and am still playing, but at default speeds (DDR1600 w/ 11-11-11) and I am in Windows right now at 1.225v
Im curious to how these will go on Z77 motherboards.
:up:
Very informative answer, thank you! I saw the thread about the new 30 nm Crucials and I'll keep looking into them, they seemed quite more expensive than the Samsung kit though. Especially as I was considering buying two kits.Quote:
Originally Posted by PiLsY
Yeah, I'm running a Crosshair V Formula with a FX-8150 so I should be fine!
Low profile RAM isn't necessarily a priority. I was just looking for a kit that was fun to tweak in a 4x4GB configuration and it sure looks like those Crucials will do the job. I just hope I can find two of the kits cheap enough! Any more good tips? :)
Anyone have some tips for me on these? I got a couple kits to play with and I cannot get them to boot past DDR-1912. 1920 = no post :/ I tried voltage anywhere from 1.4-1.7 and none of it works. It will post at DDR1912 with 1.4v, didnt try getting into Windows though. I loosened primary timings to 11-12-11 and that didnt work either. Which is odd considering everyone else seems to get an easy 2133 and many even higher. Im thinking it is just the CPU I am on right now (PII 955).
Phenom II's mem controller doesn't like high speed ram unlike the new chips like Llano and Bulldozer. I've got around the 1900MHz mark on my old Phenom 965 system as well. If you want to keep pushing it, crank up the voltage! Using only 1.4v on the dimms isn't that much for what they can handle.
going from 1.4v all the way to 1.7v doesnt get any further though. And my Mushkins I have can go to 2100MHz perfectly fine. So makes me think there is something I can change in the bios to make these sticks go farther.
Yeah its the mem controller on the Phenom - its just not really up to running 4gb dimms at 2000mhz or so.
Anyone noticed memory prices going back up? I was about to recommend the mushkin blackline 10-11-10 2133mhz kit for cheap thrills - checked and its £80 per kit now. I paid £40 just before christmas? There doesnt really seem to be anything worthwhile buying now in terms of value/overclock except the new crucial stuff.
Considering that absolutely nowhere else in the UK / Europe is stocking these, no its not.Quote:
Originally Posted by EniGmA1987
No competition, high performance niche product, they could probably price them at £200 per 8 Gb and still sell them all if they wanted to.
I'll keep my 2 Gb modules though, I dont think these will do anything good on X58.
I found this one in Brazil !!
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/M...al-channel-_JM
kkk it's mine, no more at amazon?Quote:
Originally Posted by bynext
FYI
Just received notification that newegg has these in stock! Got mine ordered. I hope they perform the same and aren't some new revision. I will report results.:)
I spent the last 2 hours or so wrestling with the Samsung 2x4GB low voltage 30nm kit. They really pissed me off. Not sure if I got a bad set of ram or my mb just doesn't like them. Tried as high as CAS 11@2133mhz with voltage ranging from 1.5v to 1.67v and no matter what voltage I set it at I couldn't boot into it. I was using the same settings that I run my set of G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL9Q-8GBZH.
I have read so many incredible stories about the Samsung ram that I just had to try it.
Part of my problem may be my MSI Z68 GD65 G3 BIOS. It has been known to be finicky. I'm kind of glad the Samsung didn't work out because I was already in the process of selling my G.Skill at a loss. I really thought the Samsung would scale better in over clocking and performance.
Also note that my system setting that I was testing with was 4.8ghz on s 2500k that I have benched as high as 5.3GHZ on water.
from what ive been hearing, it will.
which is why im hoping asus will bring a new bios to the M4E. im probably dreaming, but maybe.
You can only hope, but Im sure they will reserve good mem clocks for the new chipset, to help people decide to upgrade ....
:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonDa5
Now I'm feeling these sticks! :rockout:
I figured out the steps posted in the Techpowerup review on getting the Sammys to come alive. :toast:
1.5v on the ram.
http://minidriven.com/BlacknBlueforI...stable1870.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2296934
I'm going to try 2133mhz next with 1T-9-11-10-27 with 1.5v.
The Sammys don't seem to be performing as well as the Gskills. :(
Here is my 8GB set of GSkill RAM info: G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR...
1.6v@ 1T-9-11-10-27 @2133mhz
http://minidriven.com/BlacknBlueforI...able10pass.jpg
When I put the Sammys in I couldn't use my old CPU tweak settings so i had to start over on over clocking the system. My cpu settings need to be tweaked a little more right now to see how the Sammy's compare.
Right now i am having no luck with the Sammy's stability at 2133mhz with my cpu at 5GHZ. :(
What I am seeing is that the SAMMYS may not work that well at higher over clocked CPU speeds. I am also seeing that the Sammys are smooth at lower speeds and voltages but lack the big punch in performance that my Gskills have.
SonDa5, do you have them at 1.55v+
/thisQuote:
Originally Posted by 3lfk1ng
They seems to improve even more @1.6/1.65V.
If youre going from 2gb sticks to 4gb sticks then thats probably your answer. 4gb sticks work the cpu and imc harder, you'll need to re-check your voltages and maybe even lose a few mhz.
My 2500k will run 5ghz and 2 x 2gb @ 2250, 4.8ghz and 2 x 4gb @ 2189, 4.9ghz and 2 x 4gb @ 2154. 5ghz will run everything I do stable but fail/bsod/reboot running linx or prime at full mem usage 2 x 4gb @ 2133mhz. Granted its an utterly rubbish cpu (5ghz 1.52v), but it shows that if youre dialled in close to the cpu limit you start to suffer with mem clocks. Same goes for bclk too incidentally.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3lfk1ng
Screen shot above at 1.5v on the Sammy's.
CADAVECA from Techpowerup is teaching me hot to over clock them. I have some tweaks that I will apply when I have some time and see if I can get more performance and speed out of them.
Also the Sammy's don't scale well above 1.575v. That is what CADAVECA stated.
You never know. Each kit is never the same...Quote:
Originally Posted by SonDa5
Interesting... out of stock again already and Amazon has jacked up the 1 they have left in stock to 80 bucks. Last week when they were out of stock Amazon had them for 90+. But when newegg had them in stock the other day they were 48. So lame. Glad I ordered mine when I did.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
I tried all types of voltages and recommend cas timing settings and I couldn't boot my at 5ghz with my 2500k so I am just about certain I'm going to take back to store and keep the Gskills.
Had some time to play so I broke out the Sammy again.
This time I found a sweet spot for 1870mhz 1T-9-9-9-27 1.56v with 2500k@5ghz.
http://minidriven.com/BlacknBlueforIB/sammy5ghz1866.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2299107
I'm thinking about keeping them again. :D
I might get add a 2x2GB set of Sammy's for a total of 12GB and use the 2x2GB kit for crazy OC benches.
Next test is 5GHZ with the ram at 2133mhz.
doublepost
So far so good. Still playing around with them but right now cruising at 1866 9-9-9-27 1T with 1.56v. I was also able to move to slots A1 and B1 thanks to the low-profile. :up:
Memtest stable so far and gonna run it for a week as is then see if I can get em to go higher. Already very pleased with these.
My local micro center got YKO 1205 batch which some peep took it to DDR3 2933 Cas 11 on Asus M5G:D
Will try a few pairs of these:up:
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8...enshot077h.jpg
YKO 1209 over here to test:D
Currently running 16GB with loose timings of 11-11-11-28 2T @ 1.5V (not even sure if it needs 1.5, I just set it and forgot it). I found that my processor won't go higher than 5.1GHz (sad panda) so at some point in time I will need to focus on ram timings.
My kit is the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
Reduced voltage to 1.5v and still seems to be stable at 1866 9-9-9-27
DDR3 2654 @ 1.67V benching freq:)
glad i kept 2 kits of 8 of this mem ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
ivy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
sb-e?
regardless great job:up:
Currently at 1866 9-9-9-27 with only 1.35v now. 2133 is looking like a possibility with added voltage. Still making sure this is stable. Memtest ok so far. Hyper pi 32m ok so far. Now for some BF3 which will typically crash if my system is not stable.
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i have the same mem you can do 2133 10-10-10-28 1T easy at 1.55 :) test it you'll seeQuote:
Originally Posted by GripS
So far so good. :up:Attachment 124804Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
New Toy has arrived from the US !
Ready for AMD Bulldozer Memory OC Action :)
http://www.abload.de/thumb/img_4368k230j.jpg
http://www.abload.de/thumb/img_43885x29l.jpg
I'm super glad to hear that you guys are loving this stuff. I'm pretty impressed by what you guys have managed to pull off.
told ya ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GripS
here one of my kits run solid as a rock, i had a nighmare trying to run the ballistix ellite at 2133 CL9 this is lovely like my patriots easy as a pie
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4989/sammy1u.jpg
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ok i luv them now 2133 9-10-10-28 1T @ 1.5 !
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9867/sammy2.jpg
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Very good results.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
What ram slots are you using with those sticks?, red or black?
So Samsung 1 - Crucial 0 for you?
Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
Red ones but see this im on a new chip thats amazing on te other was impossible so I think it's IMC relatedQuote:
Originally Posted by NEOAethyr
Hey punisher as I told NEO I got much better results on this chip and crucials run fine but very sensible to volts not easy, so this Samsung the patriots and mushkin are solidQuote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
Dumo ur flying there gratsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
It seems more a suicide screen than a bench one btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
Dont think so mate Dumo know well what he doesQuote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
So why is there no bench there?Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
some more samsung luv :)
5.1Ghz HT@ 1,425 / 2176 9-10-10-28 1T@ 1,5
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8851/sammy3h.jpg
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9370/sammy4.jpg
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Great detailed screens but same size even when "viewed" and can't read the details :( Imageshack sucks man give imgur or another good free alternative a shot!
I'm presently testing 16GB of new 1205 batch from Microcenter on both Lynnfield and Sandy. So far so great tho still early. 2160 9-10-10 1.54v and 2400 11-11-11 1.65v (though on my first run with the latter now and the bandwidth is a lot lower than I expected comparatively so need to keep tweaking incl. voltage). These things sure are relatively painless to work with too.
http://i.imgur.com/cPULR.jpg
yeah sorry man i have to reup themQuote:
Originally Posted by WrigleyVillain
great results you too ;)
cheers !
Yeah, please do! Like I said there are a few good free options now but I prefer imgur.com. Even gives you the vBCode tags to copy and paste and saves you a step.
1T not working well at high clock on llano also... same as FX it demands much more voltage.
Currently at:
2160MHz 9-10-10-27-40-2t 6-6 rastoras 5 trfc 110 tfaw 24 1.52v bclk 135Mhz
or
1866Mhz 8-9-8-22-30-1t 5-5-4-90-20 1.50v bclk 100Mhz
pics reuplaoded sorry for the mistake !!!
Yeah I can't even break 18K read in AIDA at similar speed and timings on Lynnfield. Hardly unsatisfied with my IMCs ability to reach high clocks though...
no not on Lynn mate SB its the beast of mem bandw, and now the IVY will be fasterQuote:
Originally Posted by WrigleyVillain
Up too 2208 so far still 9-10-10 and still under 1.6v. This is two different sticks of the 1205 as well; sending to a friend in the UK.
http://i.imgur.com/IzooB.png
very impressive stuff! Definitely a good kit for my upcoming Ivy rig.
Got 4 sticks of 1209 yesterday. Much of the same! 9-10-10-28-1T @ 1.525v on the p8p67 pro for one pair, same timings 1.5125v for the other pair on the M4E. Bought from ocuk for £45 per kit.
Got friends over for Easter so wont have time to tweak them for a few days. I have noticed I only need default vccio, vccsa and pch voltages for these compared to my hynix sticks which need 1.1/0.95/1.1 respectively @ 2133.
P8P67 Pro still cant run these stable at 2133mhz using the black slots. Yet to find any kit that will run 2133mhz and now tried Hypers, PSC, BBSE, Hynix and Samsung. Still cant do 16gb at 2133mhz in my server :(.
They have arrived in Europe too.
Here.
Isn't it the same here , or not (pic might be wrong) ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
They should be the same. Curious that the model number is MV-3V4G3D/US!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by felix_w
Quote:
Originally Posted by felix_w
Yes the stuff from Overclockers is the same I have two kits from there & on the back of the packets it has model: MV-3V4G3 & Model code: MV-3V4G3D/USQuote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
Also when you go on the Samsung website http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/dram & click on the MV-3V4G3D kit then full spec it comes up with this pdf http://www.samsung.com/us/system/con...4g3dus/DD3.pdf stating the /us as the model name.
are we seeing good voltage scaling with theses sticks? im considering sourcing a set, and wondering what i should expect at 1.65+ vDIMM.
Nothing extra using 21.33x multi. You'll get to 9-10-10 using around 1.525v, but for higher mhz on Intel you need x79 or z77 chipset. Extra voltage will not tighten timings beyond 9-10-10-26-1T @ 2133mhz.
i'll be looking at z77.
anyone using this with z77 yet?
hey sorry I didn't want to read the whole thread, but you think the 4GB kit would be as good as the 8GB or better>?
http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0380718
same 30nm process.
Get the 4GB batch 1205 @ MC
4GB X2 or 2GBx2?
and thanks :)
2x4gbQuote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
Actually I haven't seen any single test about the 2x2GB Sammy... is there any around or all people bought 2x4GB?
pretty sure this thread is about the 4gb dimms
Single sided is considerably slower than double sided. Stick with the 2 x 4gb for that reason alone. Even if you got an extra 50-100mhz out of the single sided chips you still wouldnt overcome the bandwidth loss.
DDR3 really is no go with single sided sticks if youre looking for performance.
50-100 Mhz would overcome the bandwidth loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by PiLsY
Not what ive found...you need either a drop in trcd or 100-130mhz to get the same bandwidth and ive tried a fair few single sided sticks. BBSE was the only one it worked better for as I was able to drop trcd by 1 and gain 40mhz as well. Try it with superpi or pifast if you can. Actually single sided 2gb hynix sticks are even worse so as density goes up double sided could become even more important. As we've gone from DDR to DDR2 and now DDR3 the performance gap has got bigger between single sided and double and the timings/mhz gap has got smaller. Based on what I have seen I have no reason to believe they would perform any different to psc, hynix, bbse, hypers comparing single to double sided sticks.
Disclaimer - I have not tried the Samsung 2gb against the 4gb, nor have I tried every board/bios combo possible.
mine on a x79 with 1.55v
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...re/samsung.jpg
Uhhh double sided performance is determined by interleaving...
A single - single sided stick is probably not enough banks to pull off interleaving.
Double sided does essentially ensure you can interleave a single stick.
There's also node interleaving too, but I never messed with that, none of the bios'es allow for adjustment that one either as far as I know.
It interleaves the access to the banks of mem.
Each bank is probably 2 chips I'm guessing, whatever the bit width of the chips are.. needing equ to 64bit per stick.
2 sticks, single sided, in dual chan, likely perform the exact same as the dual sidded in the same setup.
But it is possible maybe interleaving improves as you add more banks past what you need to get it to work in the 1st place.
Awesome, can u post a memTweakit shot please ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrekogre
Anyone know where to get these in Canada. Newegg.ca has them but they are OOS :(
i got one 1205 and one 1207,. i couldn't get another 1205 they only had newer or older batches :( i found a single ones that was 1205, and one that was 1207, should return 1207 and try another? They are single sticks, i haven't taken them out of the box yet.
sin - are you going to test them on your z77-UD5?
:)
Ok but it will take some time as rig is dismantledQuote:
Originally Posted by ugotd8
Is 1207 bad?Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
I'm not sure why you are so concerned with that. I have 1209's and was able to hit 2133mhz on my P67. I'm betting they would do better with Z77.
This is the best I could do so far. 2133 @ 11-11-11-28-1T @ 1.4V. Could probably get better timings out of these sticks (many reporting CL10 @ 2133) but I think I'm limited by my lack of memory OC skills. ;-)
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/9...111111t.th.jpg
1.55v will get you 9-11-11-28-1T 2133mhz in quad channel. You shouldnt need to touch anything except memory voltage.
However you should be able to get 10-11-11-28-1T 2400mhz @ 1.6v+ if you tweak your other voltages a bit.
Thanks for the tips. I tried 1.55 and 9-11-11-28 2133 and it's a no-go for me. I get hyper-pi errors. I tried tWCL 8 and tWCL 6 per the "CAS - 3" rule I read on techpowerup's review.Quote:
Originally Posted by PiLsY
I'm still more than pleased with these. 2133 @ 1.4V is awesome. Tighter timings don't mean much to the benchmarks I run (SPECapc for Lightwave). I need raw CPU speed and running my DIMMs at 1.4V (instead of the 1.65V the dominators needed) gives me a little more thermal headroom to move from 4.8Ghz on this 3930K to 4.9Ghz or possibly the magic 5! :-)
Yeah thats cool, just curious that you havent got more. Have you tried changing to the other 4 ram slots? Reds are usually the best.
Triple channel is also faster and will let you clock higher if you find the right 3 slots :rolleyes:
I just bought the 8GB kit from Microcenter.
Batch number is 1274.
http://i39.tinypic.com/16hrzps.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/992bo6.jpg
can easily do 2133 on 9-10-10-28-1T on 1.512V stable.
I just had to change the settings and voila.
The memory can give so much more.. I can feel it.
it's like it is saying "hold me... hold me...." :)
the only thing is I'm currently stuck with I3 2100 so no room to actually see how far it'll go, and the TP67B+ (Biostar) supports upto only 2133.
These will be fun on Ivy rigs, watch the crazy clocks then.
:)
got the same specs to run at 1.452V.
this is very stable - under heavy WCG load (plus GPU beta units that are currently on!).
This is amazing.
absolutely amazing. for real.
(too bad that the post office isn't as efficient as the weather service ^_^ )
http://i39.tinypic.com/htahll.jpg
i cant decide if i should get these or some hynix.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
Do we have a results thread like this for Hynix?
:)
hynix is worse... 40nm
I bought a pair of these 2x4, could not resist lol.