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@zoomee
I can't thank you enough! Works rock solid @ 5.14! I do have quite high temps at the hardest prime95 cpu test (core 3 is steadily between 89-90 celsius) , but as I'm on air and as I won't be keeping that speed for 24/7, I'm greatly happy with it! I have to tell you, core load to 200 made all the difference, I wouldn't have even noticed it if you hadn't mentioned it! Again thx man! :)
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Originally Posted by zoomee
You could try reducing the min/max turbo by small increments until stability is lost and then put back up 1 notch - found this had a big effect on temps, try it.Quote:
Originally Posted by vulture_g7
Zoomee - did you try a bit less than 200 for core load, or try reducing in small steps - just curious as this may also have a big effect on temps?
Mark
At the moment I'm only 80% happy with this board even though I've helped sell at least 20 of these Extreme 4 G3's in the last couple of weeks in the UK!!
I can make 5Ghz stable - but the darn LLC is all over the place so my temps touch the high side when aiming for 5Ghz :(
I would just aim for 4.8Ghz long term 24/7 useage but that darn boot-loop (and sometimes no boot) issue is killing me!!!
For now I'm going to have to settle for 4.6Ghz until ASRock pull their finger out and sort the BIOS on this thing :down:
I've spent the past too weeks trying to get a stable decent overclock that I've hardly used my PC at all! - :(
@tipes
thx for the tip, I'll try it
@zoomee
do you think this boot-loop is a random thing ie doesn't happen to everyone, not to me either (well...not yet at least, fingers crossed it won't happen at all). So, maybe it isn't the bios, but maybe fauly mobbo part(s) or maybe only some cpu chips behaving bad?
so where to get 1.10d bios?
Not sure mate. I used to get it all the time on 1.0 and 1.1 bios. Moved to 1.1d and didnt get it for a while, but its started again now so i went back to 1.1Quote:
Originally Posted by vulture_g7
Ive settled at 4.8 on ~1.35volts offset using Auto OC 4.8 setting. Prime95 passed for 8hrs last night at about 65degrees C. And IBT maximum runs upto 70degrees so its liveable for now until we see some more bios revisions
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I have read through some SB OC guides roughly follow seems to me alot people can get to 4.5Ghz easily...I could not do 4.5Ghz at 1.35V,now doing 4Ghz at 1.26V any users using ASRock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3 don't mind can share some settings? I did not disable all the default power savings function because I think when idle at 4.5ghz abit waste of energy...could it be the power savings function limiting the OC?
- Strange POST code 70/71 errorsQuote:
Originally Posted by qbazdz
>>>please disconnect all SATA and USB devices, remove PCI & PCI-e cards. Slots PCIE2 and PCIE4 can remain populated because they are linked to the CPU directly. Switch off power, press the power button twice to discharge, and then move the clearCMOS jumper to the other position for 10 seconds and put it back to the original position. Power on and try to boot. If it boots now, then the personal settings for SATA Operation Mode can be restored if necessary. Reconnect devices one by one and test in between. The POST code could be related to one of the connected devices (or to the power supply powering those devices or to some cable). If without any devices connected and after clearCMOS it still stops at the same POST code, then the board might be faulty.
For anyone with other odd issues: Set your BCLK to 100.1, disable spread spectrum and OC from there. The architecture of SB just does not take kindly to BCLK being OC'd.
Will try that mate. I found allot of instability though due to llc control varying wildly!
If one leaves spread spectrum enabled it auto downclocks BCLK to 99mhz i found so its always disabled to give me bang on 100....hmm
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EXACTLY same settings as what i used yesterday wont run IBT maximum again today! See what i mean about unstable? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by zoomee
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:/ Hope you find a way to solve this m8! I understand this can be nerve-wrecking....
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Originally Posted by zoomee
Its a bit of a long shot, but you may be able to help stabalise the vcore by removing the MOSFET cooling and applying your own TIM instead of using the stock thermal pads. I would probably consider sending the board back for replacement though if the steps in my other post don't help. TIM replacement is largely just for keeping things as cool as possible, but who knows, maybe the MOSFET heatsink isn't mounted quite right or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoomee
Asrock, Extreme7 Gen3, been using it now for a couple of months happily. Everything been running great on my CrossfireX rig using a single 1920 x 1200 panel. Then I get the idea to do an Eyefinity Rig. 3 x Dell U2412M monitors (very nice and 1920 x 1200), SIIG Tri-monitor stand, and I already have two EAH6970 graphics cards. Things are pretty decent, however I feel like I've been getting ever so slight a touch of lag...
The best example, Battlefield 3, 5760 x 1200, auto settings, I'm getting 15 to 50 FPS, averaging just over 30, but then the sudden drops to below 20 fps are killing it for me... I spoke to my AMD Guru who tells me I need to change out to an AMD motherboard and ditch Sandy Bridge LOL Bah to that, but I am thinking perhaps the NF200 chip is sucking...
So I threw hardware at the problem and got a third EAH6970 for tri-fire, sure enough the max FPS improved, but I'm still getting the sudden drops in FPS. Tri-fire seeing 15-70+ I disabled crossfirex, using one card and Eyefinity, interestingly I'd get less FPS but I wouldn't drop down to 15 fps. I'd see 20-30 the game was more stable (but FPS to low). As a test I start my rig using MSCONFIG and disabled everything but Microsoft stuff, not much difference in game play, but a slight performance increase.
All things being equal I'm starting to suspect the motherboard has issues. What the issues are, who knows? BIOS? Hardware?, NF200? Anyone think I just need tweaking of some sort?
1. You don't need to change the motherboard or any of your hardware. Whoever told you that you needed to do that is.. well.. this forum will banana dance men out the words required :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Undermoose
2. The NF200 chip does have additional latency costs, but nothing that should effect FPS too badly.
The more than likely cause for your FPS drops are either;
A: Poor coding in the game, probably fixable with a patch if FPS dips like you have are a common problem
B: Poor AMD drivers / profiles. In this case you just have to play the waiting game to see if AMD fixes it.
C: Of course, make sure all your other drivers are bang up to date.
D: Try a HDD defrag with a good defrag utility like diskeeper.
Thanks for the response.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
I've suspected drivers first of course, but I've spoken with people who run Eyefinity with three monitors and battlefield 3 with full ultra settings and don't have my issue. However, they run the AMD side fo the fence, "Dragon Platform", AMD 990FX Mobo, 6 core CPU, and Graphics. They claim they have no issues with their crossfire rig, but I personally have never seen this setup.
My System Specs:
i7 2600k cpu.
Asrock Extreme7 Gen3 mobo.
2 EAH6970 Graphics cards (3rd arrives Monday, but tested tri-fire)
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit w/sp1.
3 Dell U2412M LCD e-IPS panels.
1 I-INC 28" LCD TN Panel
16gb Mushkin 1600mhz DDR3.
6 2TB Seagate Constellation drives (4 in raid 10, 2 single utility drives).
1 OCZ 60gb Vertex 3 SSD (caching mode)
Antec HCP1200 PSU
Lanboy Air Case
I'm running Sandy Bridge UEFI boot 4TB Raid 10 volume (2 partitions) with OCZ Vertex 3 caching the entire thing so I don't think it's disk related.
I spoke to AMD who suggested the RADEONPRO utility, but I didn't have much luck with that. They did say on the phone they know they have issues with their drivers, but also said the game has issues that need to be addressed as well, and that both EA and them are working towards the fix.
I've had the CrossfireX setup since December 2010 so well aware of the driver waiting game of this past year, but I'm new to Eyefinity so this is a little learning curve happening, thanks again for the input.
Anyone knows if it's somehow possible to oc the cores individualy on the ext4 gen3?
ext4 gen3 here and this board is about to go out the window. I have benched a few times at 5ghz then I reboot and I can no longer freaking boot back to 5ghz... 4.5 seems to boot every single time without issues, but anything over that and I get the stupid reboot loop. I see F1 or F2 on the LED screen before reboot, this will happen 0-3 times then I get the stuck 70 on the LED screen. After this I have to bios reset and start all over again. Seems like if I load one of the presets then go turn it off and up the multiplier I can boot 1 time back into my desired overclock (80% of the time) until I reboot again... I'm about to send this board back unless someone knows how to fix this. Recommend me another board around the same price bracket for a nice OC on water??
Thanks
ps: this bios is a laggy POS!
Well, man... Nobody can guarantee, that your CPU is capable of operating at 5GHz, so be more reasonable and post what settings are you using. Have in mind, that even 100Mhz difference between 4,5 and 4,6Ghz has a noticeable price to pay in Vcore and temp increase. And yeh UEFI BIOS is laggish and unpolished, even v.1.10 is considerably more unstable for pverclocking than first release.
Yea, I guess I will be happy with 4.5ghz. Boots like a charm and runs great a 1.3v. I had to go back to 1.0 bios cause the 1.10 is just so laggy. I can't even get my cpu to go past 4.5ghz anymore so I guess my cpu has the multiplier wall at 45. I have a nice watercooling setup and full load I am hitting 59c running linX for 4 hours with no errors. Worst part is that I had 5.0ghz and ran it stable for a few hours then I could no longer boot to it at all or anything over 4.5ghz... Regardless this is a major upgrade from my 3.45ghz q9450 and am loving it so far!
Yes, where please?Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
Ket i donīt see in 1š post the Asrock Z68 Extreme4 gen3 beta bios!!! :(
This link donīt work anymore http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D3MO1UOW
Have you tried disabling MSAA (put it to OFF) and just use the FXAA (Post-Processing AA). It gives you the same quality as MSAA 4x without the 15% - 20% performance hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Undermoose
My crossfire setup runs everything on Ultra (minus the MSAA as above) on a single 2560x1440 screen and my framerate doesn't drop from 50 fps - ever. Usually in the 60 fps region if not higher.
Links will be back up when I get a chance guys, I'm reorganising everything and updating stuff.
ket: could you make your sig smaller? :p:
Have you tried without that caching mode for SSD? My theory is that the caching mode sometimes creates high latency and this results in FPS drop. Check your latency with DPC latency tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Undermoose
Hello Old pc builder but new to OC'ing
My pc is i7 2600k
z68 extreme 7 gen 3
16 gig gskill F3-17000CL11Q-16BXL
580 gtx MSI lightning GPU
850 watt Platimax PSU
180 Corsair Force 3 SSD
2 TB WD black caviar HD
I cant seem to get all 16 gig of my ram in the board I get error code 45 when ever I populate b1/b2 slots tried different pairs in the A1/a2 slots boot fine. So the person a few pages back was using the same ram for his build I was wondering if he could pass alon his settings or if anyone knows best settings for this ram if said person could post them here. I have tried the 11-11-11 -30 @ 1.60 ,manual and xmp profile. I'm stumped do I oc the cpu to accept the other 8 gig or could it be bad ram slots.....Help
Have you ruled out the possibility of faulty RAM modules, ie have you tried all your modules in the 2 working slots and the motherboard boots? If so, you probably have a faulty mobbo and you should RMA it.
Yes I have swapped pairs into a1//a2 slots and booted up with no issues. I still may try to boot with a1/a2 empty and b1/b2 populated. I was hoping that if I changed some voltages on the ram they would work in all 4 slots. I've never had to RMA anything do I contact newegg or Asrock
I suppose you contact the shop first, so, newegg.
come on where is latest bios?
1.21d?
Well, I'd like to try it out too, but as Ket said we'll have to wait for a short while while he rearranges and updates stuff.
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Originally Posted by TEDY
like nobody else has it?
That's a good question, I'm sure somebody here has it and could be kind enough to upload it somewhere for the rest of us to grab.
Right then, being more realistic - I've backed my 24/7 overclock down to 4.8 for now as temps (and volts) are easily controllable at that speed.
So I rebuild my system last night (new case) - reset CMOS (fully by pulling battery), and booted at stock settings / speed. Ran a quick IBT and shutdown.
When i booted up I then got stuck! - It refused to boot. Tried this four times in a row - eventually it booted. Tested it again by shutting down and starting up and worked fine this time.
Looks like my booting issues aren't just overclock related!! grrrrrr..Can't be my memory as I've had two different sets in here - one Mushkin the other Corsair. Can't be overclocking as I get the same. Can't be the CPU as I got the same with my 2600k and now my 2700k. Only leaves one thing - the mainboard!
Come on ASRock - give us a new BIOS before I return this thing!
Must admit I am begining to wonder about my ext 7 gen 3 as well, but for slightly different reasons(Bios maturity to one side for a mo), I have had a 2600k and a 2700K - the 2700K supposedly from a good oc batch.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoomee
Yet I am finding like yourself that heat is more of a problem than volts, but I am now wondering if the power/voltage control of these Asrock boards may be somewhat less than stellar, as I keep hearing stories of people geting
easier and better o clocks with less heat and hassle on more mainstream boards, and better quality boards??? What is your view on this - as even under water I am struggling to keep temps down. For example my 2700 will do
4.5Ghz atr a modest 1.288 volts under Linx test + other tests stable, but in a cool room under good w cooling temps are still 66-70 degrees,so I feel I dare not attempt higher,although i think 4.6 will be just attainable.
I have made all usual checks for air/re seats of block etc etc, but no dice.Starting to suspect that although these boards give you a lot of features, and are good value in that sense - is it at the expense of good quality power/voltage
circuitry, and bios???? Where next I ask myself?????
Mark
Again I'll mention that temps are probably measured differently on the asrock boards, likely measuring the core temp itself and not the IHS temp. Its the most logical explanation, and probably the most probable one as well. I'll try to get the links back up later today but as I can't arrange things as I would of liked to UEFIs I'll probably consolidate into one downloadable package unless somebody can tell me why after copying a file with megaupload to a folder you created then deleting the other file it removes the file copied to the created folder as well :confused:
I manage approx 1.29v for 4.6Ghz mate. maybe the heat is from a poorly designed heatsink - I don't know and as I'm reaching near the 30day period for RMA (for a refund) I've already put the request in for it to be processed.Quote:
Originally Posted by tipes
I'd happily live with 4.6 or 4.8 - but this darn boot-loop and black screen issue is too irratating. I can't have the missus using my PC whilst its like this!
But the problem is which board do we go to!?! - In this price bracket that leaves the MSI Z68 GD55 (G3) and Asus Z68 PV8blah blah G3 aswell (roughly same price) but my god are they fugly lol!!.
I'm not going to risk a replacement to find its even worse than this board either (some people reported 4 replacements before they finally go a working one!) - so I just don't know - waiting for my retailor to come back to me as i've waited long enough for ASRock to give us an updated BIOS with further stability, and they funnily enough have no forum of their own where we can highlight these sorts of issues....
Any legitimate bugs have been reported and rectified or being looked into, in regards to stability and so forth when OCing even I will have to say its down to user error until I have my own E4 G3 to conduct tests with.
My problem is evident even at stock settings...... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
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Except for on the initial firing up of my system and flashing to the latest version 1.30 of the UEFI then setting the XMP profile for 2133mhz I have not set any special timings/voltages and the XMP settings simply worked for me...
It sounds like your b1/b2 slots are bad RMA the board to NewEgg for faster turnaround then ASRock
Sorry I could not be of more help
SaphireX
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Originally Posted by old nubsauce
Hi Zoomee,Quote:
Originally Posted by zoomee
Take on board(no pun intended lol) all that you say, and I would be equally frustrated with your problems.As for me - must admit I only have a dual rad, but am purely only cooling the cpu with it - so I would have thought it would cope better.The other problem could be my cpu block as it is an EK supreme HF EN block, and have heard others say that for some strange reason these blocks cool these chips less well than other copper blocks, but are ok on other cpu's - weird. Must admit I can't believe that could be the case, but......
As i said in my earlier post - i hear so many peeps getting to 4.6 to 5 gig with better temps with air coolers even, which I find hard to accept given my investment in w cooling. I am also wondering as I said earlier I do wonder if the high temps on this board are being at least added too by bios/chipset/voltage control quality of the Asrock boards - who knows. I know Ket says that he believes that Asrock measure temps differently to other boards but I cannot understand why it would seem as if it makes such a big difference. It is so frustrating to have plenty of headroom on voltage, but I cannot use it because of v high temps which are not manageable. Should I have spent more on a premium board from Asus or Evga etc in the hope that their bios/voltage control is better to the extent that it makes the difference?????
Btw Zoomee - follow your posts on ocers as well - you've prob seen mine too.Any further oppinion you would like to share on this????
Mark
If you are concerned about temps in that way, just take the side panel off your case, finger probe the MOSFET and CPU heatsinks with the system idle then again with the system loaded. That should set your mind at ease. Alternatively if you want I can load my system up (CPU uses a modded CoolIT ECO) and point a temp gun at the block and the back of my board and measure the temps. If nothing else it may help in solidifying if the board does indeed measure the actual CPU temp and not the IHS temp.
Hi all,
Long time lurker here, and have been following this thread for the past few days. While I am impressed by what the Ex4G3 has to offer at this price, I am also concerned on performance and stability.
From what I have read so far, the key issues are
- Unstable overclocks
- Unreliable USB 3.0 performance.
- Laggy BIOS
If I am not going to overclock and willing to live with only the USB 2.0 ports, is this board usable? Do the USB 2.0 ports have the same performance issues as the USB 3.0 ones? How about the SATA ports? Any reported issues there?
I could stay off OC and USB 3.0 until the BIOS / Drivers mature a bit, but what can I expect in terms of user experience in the meantime?
@Ket
would it be possible to get individual core overclocking in some next bios revision? For example, budget Gigabyte and Asus boards have this feature why not the Asrock extreme series?
@fullerms
After I resolved my oc issues thx to zoomee's kind help, I've nothing but praises for this board. At least , so far. I hope it stays that way.
I had exactly the same problem with my Supreme HF and watercooled 120.3 Thermochill. I couldn't believe that it couldn't keep a 2700k @ 1.41v under 80 Degrees C whilst overclocked to 5Ghz!. To be honest in the end I've just given up now. Sold all my watercooling and bought a 'pissy' Corsair H100 to cool the CPU at 4.8ghz @ 1.35v (or 1.36 ~ 1.38v depending on the boards mood)Quote:
Originally Posted by tipes
I think the heat problems only occur at high overclocks as for some reason using offset voltage (and fixed voltage) results in wide fluctuations in the volts when using LLC. LLC is a MUST, as vdroop is quite high when overclocking above 4.6. The problem seems to be LLC on this board - Its not very good and fluctuates too widely - one day it goes upto 1.35v (at 4.8) - next day it goes up to 1.366v! hence why I think heat then becomes an issue. Some users have also reported that for some reason or the other they have to give more voltage to become stable on the ASRock extreme boards than using the other type (i.e Asus or MSI).
Don't get me wrong its a great board if your after a conservative overclock - but once you get into the extreme levels of overclocking - i.e. 5ghz+ - Your much better off paying extra for a good high-end board from elsewhere (i.e. Asus Maximus).
Hey guys,
Just finished my build yesterday:
Core i5 2500k
ASRock Extreme4 Gen3
16 GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600MHz
Seagate 1 TB 7200.12 HDD
Evga GeForce 560Ti 1 GB
Soundblaster X-Fi XtremeGamer
Intelbras Wi-Fi N adapter
All is working flawless and I have had no issues so far. Next I plan on trying out some overclocking. Any tips for this board (sorry if you already have posted these here, but the thread is really long)?
While I don't have a Gen3 board at my disposal at this time, I do have the non Gen3 version which is almost the exact same board. I have no stability issues while OCd, USB3 performance is fine and reliable (if anyone is plugging USB2 devices into USB3 ports... well thats just silly at this point in time with everything transitioning), and the UEFI is not laggy. In the case of the Gen3 board though there are literally 1 or 2 input devices that have issues but thats it.Quote:
Originally Posted by fullerms
Probably if I was to ask my contacts, but really whats the point? Nobody OCs just one core when their looking for a 24/7 OC.Quote:
Originally Posted by vulture_g7
For the non Gen3, but same rules apply; Click. Only reason to raise CPU PLL over 1.75v is if you are going for high memory clocks. Raising VTT will also help when OCing the memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by sviola
Is there a list of compatible coolers like Noctua has? Noctua has a compatibility list on their site, very informative, which memory, which boards etc.....
I want to know this board + Mugen 3 + GSKILL 12800 Ripjaws yes/no?
@Ket
Thx for your answer. Actually there is a good point to this: When playing games where the first 2 cores are mainly used, you can bump them to 5ghz more easily while keeping the other 2 at (much) lower speeds improving the overall cpu temperatures/stability while getting all the needed speed. It may not make sense for 24/7 oc but it is a practically very useful feature for gamers which is a large part of ext4 gen3 (and extreme boards in general) owners.
i5-2500k
Z68 EXTREME4 GEN3
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 16gb 2x model:996988
2x 5850 xfire (tested with single card and onboard with same results as well)
corsair ax850
crucial m4 64gb (OS) and 256gb (Games), WD 450gb VelociRaptor (Data)
6x 120 radiator space (CPU, Mofsets cooled so far, GPU when I get a next gen ATI/Nvidia card. Debating on chipset and/or memory just for fun)
I have more of a cool head now after beating my head against the wall and being pissed earlier after spending all this money and not having it work the way I planned.
I seem to be having an issue and I think maybe the board is at fault? I can set everything to stock and it will boot, change only the spread spectrum to disabled and it will not boot... Is this normal or am I missing something? I get either a F1, F2, 71 error followed by a reboot or a 70 error that just hangs until I power the machine back off (hold the button or flip the power supply rocker switch). I have contacted ASrock about the issue, but have yet to hear back after days... customer service seems to be VERY lacking.
Right now I am running 4.5ghz with all settings stock except voltage around 1.4 on cpu. I know this is high, but my temps never go above 60c full load at 4.5ghz and left the volts there from my 4.5+Ghz overclocking attempts. It works, but anything over 45 multiplier ends in the same result above with the same error codes. I am really at a loss, but I don't want to be stuck with a bad board either. I have tried disabling all power saving C states and messing with Turbo settings as per other users results. What I don't understand is the first day I got the rig up and running I had spread spectrum disabled and I was at 5.0ghz and was stable for a few hours of LinX, had something like 8+ score in Cinebench, next reboot and bam, won't boot past 45 multi.
As for temps stress testing (LinX, Prime95, OCCT and some Gaming @ 4.5ghz:
CPU hasn't gone above 60c (when I could, 5Ghz showed 69c)
Chipset hasn't gone above 50c yet.
mosfet is in the 30s
RAM is ever so slightly warm to the touch
I still have a few days to return the board to Amazon for either an exchange or refund...
Thank You for any help you can provide. I plan on working on this all night again...
Hi Zoomee,
Once again I find myself in agreement - think Ket missed the point in my earlier post about voltage control and LLC on these boards not being as good as they should be, and leading to more volts/heat than necessary
for any given clock - even low ones. I am begining to think that a better quality board would have paid dividends, but fear I am stuck with this now. I still find it hard to believe my w cooling struggles, but again having invested
so heavily it will not be an easy choice to give up. How is it that the corsair H100 does better than a dual rad etc etc - does not make sense to me. I don't know where to go from here, but thanks kindly for your input again.
Glad to see I am not the only one with concerns about the absolute quality of these boards - given the price I think we should have expected and got better, but hey ho that life.
I was only hoping to go for 4.8 - 5ghz for fun and then dial back for 24/7.
Mark
The Extreme boards are meant for overclockers. I can suggest adding the feature but its fairly unlikely it'll get added as 4x cores @ lets say 4GHz are always going to be better for games that utilise multi core CPUs than just 2x cores @ 5GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by vulture_g7
If you suspect the board is faulty, return it. Alternatively try the beta UEFI, I'll put the link back up shortly.Quote:
Originally Posted by videogamer323
Simply put, no OC is guaranteed. There is every possibility YOUR CPU is just not capable of more than ~4.6GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by tipes
Whilst i completely agree ket , whats wierd and makes me question my boards stability is that one day i can do a full IBT x50 run on max followed directly by a 12hour prime 95 blend to find the very next day the board wont even post. Error 71 is very comnon (problem initialising the southbridge).
I really think the board is not at fault but bios work needs to be done to add more stability. I've found the same results using both different ram and cpus which have been tested 100% ok on other boards....
Im not giving up on ASRock dont get me wrong. Just think we need more bios love ;)
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Well, your error code does point to a hardware fault either with your connected devices or the board itself, not software.
@Ket
My thanks that you'll suggest it even if they decide against the feature :) It will certainly be useful to me and with the majority of games , as most don't utilize more than 2 cores.
Edit:
Come to think about it, since it's definitely not a 24/7 thing, wouldn't it be better if they integrated that feature in the Xtreme tuning utility instead (and not in the UEFI) and used on demand? I don't even know if it's possible, just a thought....
Ket,Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
Out of respect for others views etc I shall not argue with you on this point _ but i do think you have missed my point entirely. I shall not get in too a long winded explanation, but my cpu is capable
of 4.6 and more, but i am still convinced that bios or board design is having a detrimental effect on o clocking and stability, as I nsaid before my voltage is still very low for the o clock I have fully stable at
4.5 but for reasons mentioned previously I will struggle to go higher, but it is deffo not a cpu limitation on this occasion. Please re read my previous two posts. LLC for example is to my experience quite
flaky on this board, especially if used in conjunction with offset.
Mark
I shall investigate all claims about the E4G3 board when I have one, I can't always get boards off my contacts and sometimes I have to dig into my own pockets and find the cold hard cash. Hopefully I'll be able to grab a board before christmas but we shall see as I'm already coughing up cash for christmas gifts to the tune of Ģ400 this week alone >_<
Just to report that with all uefi versions (1.00 , 1.10 , 1.10D) if I set Spread Spectrum to Disabled instead of Auto, it won't boot if the multiplier is set at anything else but default clocks
Did you fully clear the CMOS as described on the first page?
Yes I did clear it. It doesn't bother me as it doesn't have any practical effect (positive or negative) on my overclocks, I just found it weird and thought I'd report it.
Hey Ket, so the board is starting to work better, now pretty stable at 4.9 with offset at +0.065V hyperthreading off, the problem is that when i manually input the Volts its stable at 1.38V now with the offset it goes to 1.424V and the temps go over 80°C. And here is the problem i can't lower the offset even with 0.005V because it won't boot. So when or if they do make a new bios they should adjust this feature that the Volts don't go to low in idle mode or when booting or we should be able to input the throttling voltages ourselves. My bios is the 1.10b thats the newest bios i found! And not forgetting to say this, the throttling feature with the offset Voltages is fantastic they just need to fine tune it and it will be stable 5Ghz with around 1.4V.
FYI for anyone that handn't noticed, links are back up.
Thanks for this bios but with this one its not better, the offset i can lower to +0.030V any lower than this and no booting into windows and the Voltages were higher to begin with so with these settings the Volts go up to 1.432 instead of the previous bios I had installed, 1.10b with offset +0.065V the Volts were 1.424 in windows.
Hoping on better bios!
Hi all. Even though it's another brand, I read over at ASUS ROG forum that approximately 10% of K series chips can reach and HOLD 4.8 -5.0ghz overclocks. Approx. 40% can reach and hold 4.6~4.7ghz, and 50% can do 4.4~4.5ghz. - MIV extreme oc guide. A good read and maybe some hints that could help peeps.
Hows my OC looking?
2600k
ASROCK E4 G3
16gb g.skill pc1600 9-9-9-24-2t
running x48 at 1.3vcore LLC @1
running on a water setup dual 140mm rad, apogee GTX waterblock, Temps seem higher than I'd like, perhaps un-optimal seating.
http://unoid.net/pics/4800mhz.png
Validation:
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/2106739.png
your temps are good, but not much lower than my simple air setup @ the same ghz, about 5-7c lower. I'd expect an additional 10c lower with a setup like that....then again, as I've never used water cooling myself I may just be over-optimistic and your temps are just fine.
Quick question. Does the included Virtu software work with Radeaon HD4870's? I intent to retain my current graphics card, and it will be shame if I can't use it with Virtu.
I don't think Virtu cares what the discrete gfx card is. AFAIK it just uses the CPU + its internal gfx unit where available.
Correct, Virtu doesn't care.
ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3 UEFI 1.33
http://www.pctreiber.net/asrock-bios-downloads?did=376Quote:
- Fixes problems with Logitech G3
- Fixes input lag for OC-Tweaker menu
I have Extreme4 with latest bios 1.10D and Logitech G510 is only working in windows. Every time I
need to get into bios I have to plug another keyboard.
ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 UEFI 1.12
http://www.pctreiber.net/asrock-bios-downloads?did=377Quote:
Improve keyboard and mouse compatibility under BIOS.
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 UEFI 1.23
http://www.pctreiber.net/asrock-bios-downloads?did=378Quote:
Improve keyboard and mouse compatibility under BIOS.
Attention
Z68 Gen 3 Ext 7
New Beta bios up on Asrock site Bios L1.32 dated 24/11
Info says Increase compatibilty of mouse and keyboards.
You'll find it in the Beta zone for the main page
Blimey - very quiet in here - has everybody gone to sleep as well as Asrock.Lol.
Mark
More like given up tryin to get above 4.6 till some new bios ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tipes
That n bf3 is too distractin lol
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Lol. Must admit bios love seems a bit lacking from Asrock - still I am happy at the moment at 4.6.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoomee
Mark
Hey Folks,
First post here. I recently built a new rig for iRacing with the Extreme4 Gen3. I'm new to overclocking but I had little trouble getting my i5 2500k to 4.7GHz with this board. So far I've had no problems with it. The only thing I could use help figuring out is how to disable the onboard USB ports when the system is shut down. Right now anything connected to a USB ports remains powered after shutdown. Any ideas?
Thanks!
made x52 at 1.41v llc1 and llc2, on water . Offset voltage too.
Running 1.00 bios. I see no reason to upgrade it.
Does it boot up ok (without any dual-boot issues) everytime with your current overclock? (i.e. 4.8?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Unoid
there are problems with it otherwise they wouldn't have 2 beta bioses to address mouse/keyboard problems which I still suffer now and then.....
Agree though that 1.00 is the best for overclocking
I too am still on original bios - working fine, my earlier comment about bios updates was only a general comment that bioses to improve performance etcQuote:
Originally Posted by zoomee
dont seem forthcoming, but general rule still applies - if it aint broken dont fix it.:)
Im curious if unoid has any booting issues like me when try over 4.6...... Thats the only reason im pushing for a bios update.
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Can someone tell me which ports on the extreme 4 gen 3 are marvel sata 6 and which are intel sata 6? Are the other 4 ports intel sata 3?
By the way there is a new beta bios
http://www.asrock.com/mb/beta.asp?Mo...xtreme4%20Gen3
L1.12 11/24/2011 Improve keyboard and mouse compatibility under BIOS.
I think its quiet more because the board doesn't really have any problems in that way :p: I'll try to get a Gen3 E4 board for testing but it won't happen atm. Busy with other tasks right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by tipes
Bump - anyone know how to turn off USB at shutdown?Quote:
Originally Posted by pgagoober
Pretty please? :)
Hi all,
I am new to this forum. Blessed to come across this forum dedicated to the Asrock Z68 Extreme7
Here is my issue: I am unable to get my PCIE x1 slot working.
I shifted the device (My TV tuner) to another PCIE x16 slot and it works.
Something is telling me my PCIE x1 slot is not working.
Here is my rig specification:
Intel i5 2500k + Intel Stock Cooler
Asrock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3 (Bios Version 1.3)
16GB Kingston DDR3 RAM
3 x Samsung F3 1TB, 1 x Seagate 500GB, 1 x Crucial M4 64GB
Palit GTX570 1280MB (The first PCIE x16 slot)
Hauppauge 2200 (Tv Tuner - Located at the first PCIE x1 slot)
Auzentech X-Fi Prelude (The only PCI slot)
Intel Pro/1000PT (The forth PCIE x16 slot)
Fractal Design Arc Midi
Corsair HX850W
Before its a safe bet to say your PCI-E x1 slot is dead try the following;
Update the UEFI to the latest
Do a full CMOS reset (that means removing power cord and battery, setting CMOS jumper to "clear" and pressing power button 2-3 times)
Remove all add-in devices and their corresponding drivers
Install just the TV Tuner and see if you get any joy
Finally, try another device in the 1x slot and see if that is detected
If you tell me the make and model of your TV tuner I can ask my asrock contacts if they have the device to do some tests.
Hi Ket,
Thanks for your prompt reply. I have tried to isolate the problem one at a time. I realized that the motherboard (Asrock Z68 Extreme7) will disable PCIE lanes if some (I am not sure which one though - have to check the manual again) lanes are used. For example, if the first PCIE x16 lane is used then the second PCIE x16 lane will be disabled (it makes sense if the graphics card is dual-slot because the second lane will be physically inaccessible). By the way, my TV Tuner is Hauppauge HVR-2200.
There seems to be a lot of issues with TV Tuners, most are because of poor driver install routies. Try getting the latest driver and see if that helps.
Hi guys , i just received my extreme 4 gen 3, nice board. Does this board support triple channel btw?
Im using the triple channel memory (Corsair dominator 3x2 gb) from my old setup, but it runs not very well.
2 gb runs normal, 4 gb runs sometimes (sometimes it boot sometimes not), 6gb wont run.
Nessecery buying dual or quad channel ddrs ?
on 1.00 bioos above 4.6ghz I don't have booting issues that I can tell.
I am running 1.3V at 4.8ghz for 24x7 and it boots every time just fine.
I haven't rebooted much at 5.2ghz to see if there's any problem there.
Hi all,
Has Asrock officially confirmed Ivy Bridge support for the Ex4Gen3? I kinda assumed they did and was all set to buy it tomorrow until these two threads stopped me dead in my tracks.
http://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/4...e-support.html
http://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/4...herboards.html
Does anyone have any other source confirming or contradicting the information in those links?
Edit : The statement that bothers me the most 'Z68 Professional Gen3 and Z68 Extreme7 Gen3 will support Ivy Bridge CPU'
Just checking in to report an observed problem with my Extreme 7 Gen 3 board. Upgraded BIOS to 1.3 and got much better boot-up times, but BIOS still doesn't recognize Logitech G510 keyboard. Also noticed my external hardrive in a Rosewill eSATA/USB 3.0 housing will drop its connection after about 5 minutes, but if I power the drive off and back on it will stay connected for hours. It does this with the USB 3.0 connection. Another external drive in an identical housing connected under eSATA stays connected full time with no disconnects. Is this disconnect a problem with the ASRock Xfast USB? It seems to affect only the USB 3.0, as 2 other USB 2.0 external drives connected through a USB hub don't drop their connections at all, nor do 2 other external drives using eSATA connections. For the record, I have a lot of drives connected to this system--6 internally and 5 externally, but only the external USB 3.0 is dropping connections.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Anyone knows whether the EX4Gen3 will support Ivy Bridge?Quote:
Originally Posted by fullerms
Quote:
Originally Posted by pgagoober
Hi there "pgagoober" can you confirm what bios are you using now coz i"m also experience this usb behavior after update to the new F-beta bios L1.12.Quote:
Originally Posted by pgagoober
upQuote:
Originally Posted by Weebeast
first gray --->marvel ( if u use esata then only can can be use)
second gray --->intel 6gb
Third black --->intel 3gb
Fourth black --->intel 3gb
try swapping your ram with other slot( mine 3x2gb gskill 1600 cl8 and 1x2gb elixir 1600 cl9 )Quote:
Originally Posted by nakata24
Hey about to buy the Z68 Extreme 4 tomorrow but have just heard in this thread that this board has some serious issues with usb3 and random bsod.
What confuses me though is (I haven't had time to read through everything posted here yet) I don't think I've seen any mention of bsod'ing here while in the thread linked there is almost 9 pages of complaints about the etron drivers mixed in with oc'ing problems.
This board really is good value it seems, but if it's as problem ridden as I've heard is it worth it?
Hi Ket. I'm pulling this one out again as I still haven't found the way to solve it. I have noticed that the drives aren't even recognized in UEFI. They are both on Marvell controller. I saw one forum member had the same issue and he solved it with removing Intel RST. I didn't even use it but tried installing and checking for differences. Didn't help at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by impaelas
Also, why is ASRock suggesting putting boot devies on Intel controller (this is a recommendation in UEFI) if Marvell is supposed to be faster. I'm getting a new SATA II drive tomorrow and it's frustrating my old 775 MBO enabled me to use all SSD tools needed and this one doesn't even recignize the drives..
thx
About the Intel recommendation, it recommends the SATA3 Intel ports instead of the Marvell ones as the intel sata3 is faster. The Marvell ports are faster than the intel sata2 ports though.
Quote:
Originally Posted by impaelas
and this also solves the problem with no drives being detected. thx alot mate! apparently Samsung and Intel counted on their SSD's used only on Intel controllers..Quote:
Originally Posted by vulture_g7
Hi, did someone tested L1.12 Beta BIOS on Z68 Extreme 4 Gen3 board? I have some issues. My mouse was properly detected in initial v.1.0 UEFI BIOS and worked fine , but in 1.10 and Beta 1.12 support is broken. Suddenly it freezes and stops responding. Also there is a minute delay before BIOS full screen logo disappears and Windows starts loading. Codes in bottom write angle of the screen are changing, so some kind of very prolonged checking is going on.Sometimes the PC didn't start , when overclocked to previously stable settings with v.1.0 BIOS. Very disappointing Asrock BIOS support. My previous two mobos were Gigabyte and they had like 12 to 15 regular BIOS releases in their lifetime. Now I am in a need for new RAID OROM version, so constantly checking official 1.10 and Betas, but it is not fun at all.