but F3B is the best for now.....Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
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but F3B is the best for now.....Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Why? Because 200pts more in 01? :D
:yepp::rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullet92
hi guys, i have a problem with my motherboard, before I had a msi p67a-GD65 stable there, I could do 5ghz with 1.52v load voltage.
With gigabyte p67a-ud4-b3 is owiele different situation, the processor will not even make a stable 4.7ghz or 4.5 ghz tried różnich voltage up to 1.55v but it does not help, and also different settings for the same thing all the time do not have a stable system, I tried BIOSs all F2 through F3D and there is no difference: (
It is worth to wait for another BIOS? or sell the album and buy something better, because frankly głłówna plate looks great, but her performance is wasted
thanks in advance
Turn on Loadline Calibration.
Turn on PLL Override.
Disable all power saving states C1E C3, C6, EIST, in BIOS.
Try toggling multiplier control by OS to disabled/enabled if disabled doesn't work.
Set vcore to 1.56v at 5 ghz.
That MSI board was not using 1.52v, it was probably around 1.55v at 5 ghz. That board overvolts pretty heavily with droop control, if I recall.
as I said none of the settings are not stable for me, and I wonder if this wine BIOS or the motherboard:)
msi file was then vdroop is not, I measured all the digital meter reading was 100% real
msi performance: 4.7GHz / 1.37V (bios) / 1.4V load DMM - 100% stable
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1055/4700mhz247.jpg
gigabyte performance: 4.59GHz / 1.415V (bios) / Load 1.392V - not stable
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/7240/errorlinx.jpg
Have you tried messing with the RAM Settings?
Sounds more like a RAM issue and not a CPU issue. CPU wouldn't be that unstable just from a board change, unless some of the phases weren't functioning.
Set your RAM to 1333 mhz or try manual timings. I think you'll get it stable. Ther's a chance you have a defective board, but this seems like RAM flaking out.
What's the HIGHEST CPU settings that are stable on the UD4 and what's the lowest vcore that will run at those settings?
There's no such thing as a 2500k that can't be stable at 4.5 ghz, so something else is at fault, here.
I have G. Skill Memory 3GB DDR3 1600MHz Pi-CL8 Black, the remains of the X58 platform
I do not know whether to blame just the memory, because the same configuration for MSI to work smoothly, but it's ok now check all the settings associated with the Ram, but I doubt it would help because I always get a BSOD related to the CPU voltage
I will write later if there is any improvement
EDT:
ok, but the drawback was the ram, set to auto, and the system runs stably overclocked to 4.7ghz, but strangely that the system crashes and memory errors are the x58 chipset:) on MSI have not had
SCREEN:
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6941/47ghz.jpg
One of the things you learn from the socket 775 days is that certain boards just hate certain RAM sticks. Usually have to get a BIOS update, but 1.65v RAM isn't "officially" supported on P67 platform. If the old X58 RAM works, then that's great, and alot of the stuff does work. But the DDR specs are supposed to be something like 1.41(?)-1.59v, and its still unknown if running RAM at 1.65v will have longterm consequences or not.
that is, the motherboard is fine?
just change the memory to another? although strange because the msi p67a GD65 do what normally stable, and here no longer want with the same frequency
please made this:Quote:
Originally Posted by kuziu
flash F3B bios with @bios
pull memory modules on slot 2 and 4
reset to default bios
restart and first of all load the xmp profile.
after in cpu advanced, disable all and enable only: all core/ht/pll internal overvoltage/x50 multiplier
go into voltage section and enable load line calibration and set cpu v-core to 1.54v
restart and tell me how run...
Now even 4.7ghz is not stable again :(
5GHz voltage 1.57vi tried the same thing all the time gets BSOD 0x124 or 0x101, and vCore does not help, I checked in the configuration memory of 2,3,4 and 2.4, still the same problem.
I'm going back to MSI, a much better performance and overclocking
please explain....Quote:
Originally Posted by kuziu
tehre shoudl be no difference in performance, lol. the boards should be ocing the same. Might even wanna give it a shot with turbo, and extend your TDP/TDC values.
gigabyte is very weak, I applied the settings like the others, or one that was as far as overclocking performance, and here it is not already in use program which is better MSI, Gigabyte 3D weak in counting so to speak, the board only works well with Auto OC, or by a program ET6 and overclocking to 4.1GHZ
@^ = already try F3d ?
Yes. F3D worst for me, the graphics card works all the time at x8 instead of x16, I even tried to 1.6V voltage to 5 GHz, but none of that, the motherboard is not suitable for strong overclocking, better exercise, and MSI has a better performance in 3D programs
EDIT:
you test, gigabyte in last place in overclocking the CPU, the same voltage reaches 5.1GHz MSI, Gigabyte barely 4.8GHz
As you can see a colossal difference, the test has been used the same CPU and the voltage to 1.5V:)
All states know that mobo too weak for a stable overclock over 4.8GHz processor
http://www.benchmark.pl/testy_i_rece...ona/13283.html
i would seriously question reviewers ability to overclock if he had a 400MHz difference in overclocking the same chip across different boards (assuming he used PLL overvoltage option on all of them). makes no sense at all, if he concluded 100Mhz difference I can see that otherwise there is something seriously wrong with his methodology and ability to OC
WAIT just a minute O_o.Quote:
Originally Posted by kuziu
Graphics card at X8 instead of X16 is a classic symptom of flashing the bios WITHOUT clearing the CMOS afterwards.
Happened to me on a B2 version of the UD5 when I didn't clear CMOS after flashing...
BTW: I did some research on the MSI board.
Do you realize that the MSI board OVERVOLTS by as much as 0.06v with their version of loadline calibration?
Set your gigabyte board to LoadLine Calibration level 2, please.
THEN compare. I don't even think the GB board overvolts that much!
And for cripes sake, clear the CMOS after flashing bios !!
And oh yeah...that review is using B2 stepping boards. UD4 has horrible vdroop on B2 bioses. And UD5 overvolts on LLC1 about 0.05v. And those are idle voltages being shown, too. No wonder their clocks are all over the place....
MSI does not need such a large voltage, 1.5V set in BIOS is 1.47v idle and 1.51v load:) Everything I measured a digital multimeter
Gigabyte has been rather over-voltage set to 1.45V in the BIOS, and the program shows 1.44v idle and 1.42v load, and it really is more than 1.45v as measured Bullet forum, proved that the programs underestimate the reality is more than the value set in the BIOS
Ok thats interesting. So MSI is undervolting then from sensor....I just saw a post from someone saying their MSI board (GD45 I think?) was running at 1.32 idle and 1.38 load cpuz....Quote:
Originally Posted by kuziu
Anyway clear the cmos and see if your card is at X16 again.
I still think it's a RAM problem with your board or maybe you have a bad board. Most people I've seen in forums say the Gigabyte boards clock slightly higher than MSI series...so there is a compatibility issue with your system.
You don't have any 1.5v RAM to test?
Ok clearing the bios with the rail PCIex helped:)
Now the second thing to Apply settings to overclock the bus again, runs at x8 (
on the auto setting works well, now testing 4.8 GHz F3D, voltage 1.5V bios, or is the same under load?
Is 1.47v under load is real? because I already do not know whether to trust the program ET6.
Please help even the CPU setting, so that it operates 100% of the well and not undercutting the computing power
RAM memory as long as others do not have, but I wonder whether or not it would have helped, because the MSI worked very well, such a statement
VTT voltage setting of 1.1V, a lot of help in my case, 4.8GHz and 15 minutes Linx goes well:)
Please help even the CPU setting;)
bios screen
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8858/001sgn.jpg
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8736/006qa.jpg
I dont know what's your cooling, but running test after test after test with 1.6v and I bet high temps you might as well have degraded your chip.
So...how did you get it stable at 4.8ghz?
it wasn't stable before....
Was it clearing CMOS?
Quote:
Originally Posted by kuziu
LOLLLLL
3 dimm...
plese leave one and install 2 modules on slot 2 and 4
Well, here probably helped to 1.5V for the CPU and 1.1V for QPI / VTT
tested at 2 and 4 slots, there is no difference in stability, moreover, this set worked perfectly for MSI GD65, and without fear that the RAM is a drawback, I have a hunch that this BIOS, but I'm not 100% sure
The newest version of HWMonitor will give you a fairly accurate CPU voltage reading on the ud4-b3.
It's not the one listed as CPU Vcore, it's the bottom one listed as CPU.
motherboard is a nightmare
in idle crashes with a BSOD 0x1E, I will not give so much vCore for a measly 4.8GHz enough for MSI 1.45 V and 1.46 V at a digital multimeter, that everything was tested and worked without problem, and here there are problems all the time, tomorrow I refer mobo to the shop and I will ask for a refund because gigabyte is not worth that much
I'd like to say a big thanks to Gigabyte for a great board! :clap:
I've used the UD4 to -
Establish world records for both PCMark Vantage and PCMark05 ( http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...0k_39375_marks ) and to
Log a SuperPi32M of 5:48.6 - currently the 19th fastest in the world (across all processors not just SB) - http://hwbot.org/rankings/benchmark/.../world_records .
I would think - not too bad - for a $180.00 mobo :rolleyes:
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the problem are yours......Quote:
Originally Posted by kuziu
listen to me..
your ram isn't perfectly compatible...
buy a p67 certified ram....
^ Yeah, that or 3 sticks of RAM in a Dual Channel system...WTF...LOL!!
Do you prefer running memories in slot 1 and 3 or 2 and 4?
nice one dude :up: UD4 is a cracker of a board for sure
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo
easy 5.4ghz(1.55v)(27c air ambient).... with b3 rev
f3b bios is very stable
i'll play with ram...then subzero :D
plays nice with my el cheapo rams...i wonder if this is stable still at 5ghz,, thats another session... work starts sunday
Which memory is that Hondacity? BBSE variant?
adata 2200c8 :D
Bah! But thanks!
My hyper set wont work with UD4 or UD7 :(
same here, tried with different sets of Hyper but no luck so far...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap
maybe is a matter of CPU, not mobo/bios/ram model.
edit: honda, you are cheating, what's that command rate 2t ? :D
2t.....bios default
i only tried setting the first 3 settings...
and only had an hour to test... too much work
i'll try this with corsairs...and supertalent hypers.. later
try 1 T settingQuote:
Originally Posted by Hondacity
too late...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
0 points. It's heavy to get hypers working with 1T on UD4. 2T is doable as I showed in the last page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
Sorry if this has been posted before but I couldn't find it. I just got a build up and running with this board paired with the F3 bios and a 2600k. I have two 640GB drives in raid 1 from a previous Intel-based system, a 150GB raptor, an 80GB Intel SSD, and a SATA DVD drive (5 devices total). I had the SSD plugged into one of the SATA3 ports and the rest plugged into all of the SATA2 ports. I set the BIOS to RAID(XHD) mode so I could continue using my 640GB drives in raid 1.
The issue I ran into is that the 80GB SSD would show up in the list of devices when the raid controller was initializing, but the Intel matrix raid utility did not see the 80GB drive and it did not show up in the bios as a bootable device. I tried changing all sorts of settings and could not get it worked out. I ended up swapping the DVD drive and the SSD so that all hard drives were on the SATA2 ports and now it works fine.
Any idea how to get the SATA3 ports working for bootable single devices while still using the SATA2 ports for raid?
Thanks!
^^ if the 80gb drive shows up in the raid bios (pass thru) if you reboot again after that it should show up in the regular bios so that you can put it at the top of the list for boot. You tried that and still no luck?
edit - another option is to connect the 80gb drive to a non-P67PCH controller and boot from it that way - did you try that yet?
Is your 80gb drive sata3?
f3b and f3d
1. no difference with hypers(super talents),
2. higher blclk 100.3(f3d) versus 99.9(f3b), doesn't matter really lol
...back to f3b :D
I like F3. Easier to work with and more stable for me.
hey honda, did you manage to get your STT 32M stable with 2133 divider?
i still have trouble.
anyway, F3 stable release here seems to be a bit better than F3B and F3D for bclocking and high dram speed.
a bit angry because i can run everything at these settings but not the 32M...
http://upload.centerzone.it/images/5...1218_thumb.jpg
tested stt minutes ago...2133 is doable with tCL 9, tCL8 not stable at all
all voltages related to memory tested...one voltage helped 100ms in pifast :D
stt hypers are going to x58 setup...p67 is asking too much bw from them.
I just sold all of mine:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hondacity
the GSkill 2133 8-9-8-24 Ripjaw X kit kills it on sb and they are fairly cheap since they are psc
hahahha
i still need backups for my x58 :D
yep i got the 2133 8-9-8...coming... 4 sticks :P
My is Elpida BBSE.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
corrected my friend!:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Yeah....:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondacity
any word with F4a for gb-p67a-ud4-b3?Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Im gonna get this board next week, are there any quirks on this board I should know about ?
Or should I wait out the Z68's if they offer really better performance/OC
z68 is p67+h67 .... id say go with ud4 if you'll be running single gpu
http://filefactory.com/file/cbd369d/n/cpuz_vcore2.zip
new beta CPUz for better vcore read
Is this any different from the 157.1 setup file that was posted last week? I Think it was from the cpuid ftp site, (which reads the vcore fine on the B3 boards?)
this one is from today
I just ran it...they both seem to be the same version though.
Except the first one says "to uninstall cpu-z, go to add/remove...etc"
LOL
now i try...
in past i have flashed my x58-ud5 to extreme...... well done...
now... my ud4 do not have llc level....
and if i try to flash ud5-b3 bios to my ud4-b3??????
Impossible.
Only UD5 and UD7 are crossflashable with each other.
I've read pages 1 to 15 and the horror stories and suddenly with the new B3 and new bios everything seems to be ok ? I've stopped at about page 18.. seems like the new F3 bios is doing great??
they probably learned how to do it properly now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
And the good bioses are like F3 and F3B right?
i only tried f3b...its good
I seem to have missed the link on where to get the beta bios..
GA-P67A-UD4-B3 F3 Mod
http://www.mediafire.com/?4wc27331vn5azz5
Update Intel RAID ROM - 10.5.0.916
Update Realtek - v2.39
Please flash at your own risk, BIOS has been tested and is working, enjoy!
And before anyone asks about the UD7 RAID ROM loading on it's own screen, this is not due to the Mod's, I tested the original files and they now do this. So Gigabyte has changed something making the AHCI and RAID readouts load on seperate pages for some reason.
fantastic....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap
hey guys, i'm wondering about the BIOS, is the F3b is the better rom?
I do not know what's going on with the motherboard you guys, even the CPU voltage to 1.475V does not help stabilize the CPU at 4.7GHz (I'm very disappointed, I do not know if others have the same problem, but it seems that it needs a lot of UD4 vCore and it is not stable with the high frequency Is there any option for it? whether all the time as will, bsodów not getting all the time i got an error in lynx after 1 minute ,without exception, the voltage and CPU settings
Enable PLL Overvoltage.
Check RAM timings.
Lower RAM timings to 13.33
Try raising vccsa to 0.975v or VTT to 1.1v.
read post #487Quote:
Originally Posted by KURTZ
With the B3 chipset and F3b bios does PPL overvoltage still cause boot issues?Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
will be a bios that corrects bclk to 100MHz?
Checking the settings immediately raised tensions vccsa and vtt, I will know that went well
Yes kuziu, the cpu on UD4 needs more voltage for being stable then on Asus board. I can not run even 3DM06 at 5000MHz with 1.42v (1.45v is stable) and on M4E I could get 5GHz 1.42v 24/7 stable and 1.4v benchable. Nothing weird I'd say.
It is noticed that the board needs more vCore than the competition, but the album as a good price is, and even ASRock P67 PRO3 held to better processor with high frequency, the msi GD65 processor clocked at 4.7ghz need about 1.4V, and nothing more, and even here 1.475V is not enough, all the time is an error in linxie, and I play it I get a bsod 0x7E or 0x1E more vCore, I can not give, because I killed my CPU, now test the 4.5ghz with 1.35V vCore Bios, and lynx no longer crashes errors also do not know what's going on, once stable, then the same errors and bsod
Sorry, it's not that easy to understand you, though.
What do you mean you killed your CPU?
sorry but i don't think that asus boards (at least P8P67 series...) are better clocker...some weeks ago i tried some 2600k on both P8P67 and UB4-B3 and gigabyte always allowed me to use 1 multiplier more than what asus did...
regarding voltage readout honestly i don't trust what BIOS or softwares say, better to check with a multimeter. :)
As you could see from my earlier posts, I'm always checking with DMM.
I know we can't compare M4E and UD4 but I'm saying that because of the theory that all board clocks the same on air. That would be correct for subzero maybe but not for air cooling..
yes, that's right, you use DMM. :)
BTW, who the hell cares about 0.03 volt more or less? i surely don't care, what matter is what frequency the CPU can do, not with what voltage :D
I care.. because I need 1.61v for stabilize 3D06/Vantage on 5300mhz and on M4E I could run it on 1.585v and 5400mhz. Maybe I can run lower freq because of heat (10°C difference now and then) but it doesn't explane the 0.03v difference on 100MHz lower clock. The max OC is almost the same but the stability is far away from M4Es.
try to use dynamic v-coreQuote:
Originally Posted by Bullet92
the big problem of UD4 is the voltage droop....
play with dynamic to get a "positive" v-droop..... it help much whe past the 4800...
2600k + Ga p67a ud4 b3 F3 official bios stioll no love with Leadtek DV2000 TV tunner is just have a continuos power on off cycle damn those non native pci slots
not OC related but anyone gotten Ubuntu to connect properly? The realtek nic or something just will NOT work for me. Its so frustrating! Dual boot in Win7 works fine 20mbps, go into Ubuntu and i cant do anything, wont even let me log into router...
Does THIS work?
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubu...-nic-work.html
Not like I know anythinhg about linux or whatever...just did a random serach.....
4 days ago i went to a local PC shop and bought a new CPU, not a great chip to be honest but good enough to do something interesting with a stock cooled hardmodded GTX280.
AM3 :: 400538
http://mafio.host56.com/imagehosting/?dm=513036667958
3Dmark 01 :: 110592
http://mafio.host56.com/imagehosting/?dm=913036678674
both CPU and VGA are pretty maxed out, in the next weeks i will freeze the VGA aiming for 123k + in 3dmark 01 and a decent AM3 score.
finally got a CPU that doesn't go crazy with the single stage, this one run smoothly at -50° C.
nice work mafio :D
i just finished my 3d01 as well
thx honda, your run looks good too :)
1022 FPS in nature with such low clock on the GPU/VRAM is really impressing :yepp:
i think it was higher like 710 hehehe
ud4 is impressive ..not me ..:D
i still have to try another 2600k...hopefully it does what seller said it does ..*cross my fingles*
more likely 750 core and 1200+ GDDR :D
crossing fingers for your new CPU, the next week i've some exams so not much time to bench and test but after exams i'll get another CPU hoping for a better one.
Hi Guys, I have a UD4 R3, 2600K 8GB Vengence C9 - Currently sitting at 47*103 @ 1.4vcore @ 1.16VTT. I want 48*103 but I keep getting #124 and #101 after a few mins of prime while 4700Mhz is rock solid. I see that DVID helps with higher clocks? For those of you running a 2500/2600K what offset are you typically using around the 4.8 mark?
4.7GHz no LLC DVID= +0.09, probobly +0.11 for 4.8
What bios voltages did you set for this??Quote:
Originally Posted by nijel
@nijel, why no LLC?
Also, what does everyone think of the latest F3 bios? I was using the F3d before although I was hopeful that the latest bios would include advanced LLC options.
It's [NORMAL], only way to use DVID and depends on particular CPU and multiplier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
[NORMAL] with DVID 0.00 = [AUTO] = VID
LLC gives me under 1V in idle and Vcore doesn't scale properly for low loads 1 core which leads to BSOD in 0-15% load range. With LLC Standard and higher DVID my idle is ~1.04-1.08 and no any BSOD in the full 0-100% load range. That's for 24/7 clocked system. It doesn't matter if you overclock for benching.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulT
Can't comment on UD4 F3, but on UD7 any LLC level + DVID = system won't post.