Cards not overclocking as good as you want = broke?
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Cards not overclocking as good as you want = broke?
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yeah 950 on 1.30 in no case 1 out of 500 times you get a clean run come on let it go. i said i was not going in detail if you want to pm me i will send ss and some other info if you were close you could come by and see for yourself then you will undrstand betterQuote:
Originally Posted by Monstru
i know what category you fall under also.... salesman:p:
with the pee on the 295 comment your no better then what you decribed.
i spend 1250 usd to find out about the card you spend nothing then berate buyers and get others to join in ....what does that make you?:clap:
think about it:)
you know after thinking about the giga card is broke too if it wont run stock clocks on stock volts so make that 2 for 2 i never said i had two broke cards till now so....i calll them like i see them.
i dont have to kiss anyones as5 and find good things to say about it so they still send me stuff.
again i repeat i still like the cards i dont want refunds but just 100% working cards if they dont clock one bit over 725 so be it but to plug it in and work like it should is just fine by me.
but if that happened and i called them crappy clockers i would be right about the cards that i would have not all just the ones i have in hand.
i dont know why your on a witchhunt but w/e
Your just going back and forth on those "cloks, doesn't lock, it is DOA, it is not doa, it need volts for stock, it does 950MHz GPu, etc, etc, etc". Anyway, it's your goodies, you bought them, you have a bad opinion about them, and that is that.
And I am just a salesman :) Funny thing though, you just confirmed that to me that I am fair. When I tested GTX 295, all the ATI fanboys were like "boo, you Nvidiot, GTX 295 sucks, the power consumption this, the overl:banana::banana::banana::banana:ing that, the price etc". Now, when I test HD 5970, the Nvidia fanboys go like "boo, you salesman, it sucks, it can't clock, the power consumption this, the heat that, etc". I am very fkin kappy man, it must mean I am doing a great job, thank you for that! I am just going to tell you what I use to tell the fanATIcs back in the GTX 295 days - this is the best VGA out there, weather you like it or not. And yeah, it pees on GTX 295. But guess what, if GT300 will wipe it's a** with HD 5970, I'll be the first to say it, for sure ;)
read again i never ever said doa you did lol
i like the gosh darn cards i'm a vga whore duh.:p:even thuo the one i got are not working right :D
ok it seems you not one of the kiss as5 salesman then you win i lose ok.:)
Nobody wins, nobody looses, just another day at the office :)
You said:
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Originally Posted by cowie
broke but not doa,sorta like a car starting but not driveable.
i wish you were closer so you could come by and learn me this red team stuff :D
ok 13hill find a new review to post :p:
Great review of 5970 CFX: http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews....d=890&pageid=1
And they suggested a new 'revision' to the card:Quote:
In regards to running 5970's in Crossfire x, the word 'overkill' immediately springs to mind - there really is absolutely no need for it right now, unless you need to play Crysis Warhead at Enthusiast settings on your 30 inch screen at the native resolution. This is the first time we have seen this title running like butter and it shows just how poorly put together the game was when it was released. Sure, its pretty, but it shouldn't need a dual 5970 configuration to run well with the eye candy maxed, even at 2560x1600.
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviewim.../ATrHD5970.jpg
Ok, misunderstanding then. Believe me, I wish I was closer also, so we could psuh this puppies untill they go pop :D
These puppies definitely need full cover wc'ing by properly designed blocks, that adequately cool vrm's.
Otherwise when oc'ing, u play russian roulette with a 600$ card...
nice review but im not willing to watercool one of these so i wont be able to overclock them much at all so i will give them a miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by rouvio
I don't either, it was for the sake of testing my cooler if it could handle the testing reviewers have tried on the 5970, nothing more.Quote:
Originally Posted by eric66
lmao @reply, think i don't already know this? it's my ****ing desktop you blind and never complained on FPS :ROTF: besides i get low temps on most other benches out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
pfft you guys call this hot??Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
when i was younger we walked to school in 120+C uphill both ways :D
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6493/wow11.jpg
now at stock clocks its not bad at all,dont mind the added volts this card wont run stable at stock volts
like for playing games are you really going to need to add volts and clock with this card.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3...stockvolts.jpghttp://img402.imageshack.us/img402/a...pg/1/w1024.png
i think they(ana)_might just got a card whos heatsink was put on a friday afternoon or saturday morning
Like a 5970 Special Hangover Edition? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by cowie
Looks like you are running FM in Windowed mode. I also see VDDC temps above 120°C in one of your screenshots.Quote:
Originally Posted by cowie
yeah i know as for the windowed mode its so i can see other programes it seems to go in 3d and the temps well that what volts will do for ya
ygpm sky
this is more like it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by rouvio
http://i46.tinypic.com/34fywsh.jpg
I just realized, 5970 looks like the arks from 2012...... you know the three in the end weird
That is sexy. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
and where would the heatsink part of the cooler be?
Oh well, you know. Somewhere, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by W1zzard
if this is so, how do you explain people running at 1025/1300?Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
yes i agree... :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by eleeter
The card will throttle. Explained.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
in what though? the only test ive seen actual throttling is furmark, what games do that too? (if a review was posted showing that, sorry i missed it)Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
Manicdan, didn't you know this card is primarily being purchased to run Furmark and some other even more obscure programs. ;)
thats the point though
you don't need or want 1025 clocks unless your benching in which case... it does throttle
you don't need 10 extra fps when you already have 100 + even at 2560 by 1600
What do ppl bench with? Games and 3d mark? I haven't heard of it throttling during those 2 scenarios. ;)
I didn't know ppl benched competitively with Furmark and some program I have never heard of that Anandtech mentions. ;)
Some ppl have just drank a lil too much Hatorade imo ;)
No, your just down playing the issue. Furmark, while not a realistic program, is still a program. It is a program which can be run. This software program can make the gpu not work the way it is advertised. That is not acceptable. No software should be able to damage or prevent something working as advertised even at stock speeds. Furmark throttles it at stock. Is that acceptable? It's not the softwares fault for putting strenuous demands on the hardware, it's the hardwares fault for diminishing its capacity to run stably with these demands. If software never pushed hardware, we'd never advance. Is that ok with you to? What happens if a game comes out, that actually DOES throttle it? Is that not a normal program? Are you just stating Furmark isn't a legit program?
It is an issue. Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't lessen it.
I like AMD products more than Nvidia. The quality to me just seems to be higher and my nvidia card which isn't a year old is already starting to die. The fact I like them more than Nvidia, doesn't change the fact I apply criticism where its due. The fact is AMD/ATI was and is negligent in properly cooling the VRMs does not make us 'haters'. My last 4870 died because of the VRMs over heating. This is not a software issue, it's a hardware issue.
This was already an issue with the 4800 series, and with the "doubled up" nature of the 5800 series why are ppl so suprised? I don't think it's realistic to expect Ati to rework their current architecture to ensure full speed while running Furkmark. What they have done is seems reasonable to me. I think ppl are nit-picking and exaggerating. Would they have preferred a massive delay to ensure full speed operation in Furmark? lol They're great cards, get over it. I had a 5870, awesome card, but my GTX 280 still gets the job done, for now ;)
go back to september where they specifically mentioned the VRMs were designed to throttle, CAUSE THE OLD PROBLEM WAS GPUS CRASHING. so they did fix the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by orangekiwii
i just RMAd a 4850 that actually had real heat issue on the VRMs while playing games, mass effect pushed the gpu alot harder than other games ive played since i got it. to really test out the issue, i ran the OCCT gpu bench (much like furmark) and logged the temps, the guys at xfx said not too as it can permanently damage the cards.
sofar no one has any game or benchmark that causes it to throttle, and until i see one, im considering this not an issue.
I'm currently hashing things out with ATI before the article goes live or I even continue testing but I have seen 110°C+ temps on the VRMs in Far Cry 2 DX10, HawX DX10, Unigine Heaven DX11 and STALKER CoP DX11. On the other hand, temps stayed within normal ranges in Fallout 3, Call of Duty: WaW, Left 4 Dead and Dawn of War 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
This holds true for all three HD 5970 cards I have....
It looks like temps are a particular problem in DX10 / DX11 apps which makes sense considering the high load they put on the card. This could also explain the oddly low performance of the HD 5970 at higher resolutions / IQ settings in Far Cry 2 DX10 versus a dual HD 5850 setup. I know many people have suspected drivers but I have gone through a number of supporting betas (early RC, 9.11 beta w/ HD 5970 support, 9.12 beta) and none of them improve upon the performance of this year-old game. Maybe I am wrong but considering the temps I have seen, it would make sense.
solution: primarion pwm.. nvidia should also go back to primarion pwm (used @ g80)
way better than volterra digi crap ;)
When I was testing ways to cool the VRM for a silent PC with HD 5850, using some small aftermarket heatsinks for VRM's I had some runs of FurMark (1 hour long each ) in which the VRM would get up to 123-125 oC. The HD 5850 did not go into any kind of throttle for thos VRM temps.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
The VRMs are simply too hot:shakes:. Better cooling or adding more phases would increase the performance. Any reviews about mods/custom cooling for the HD5970 yet?
EDIT: While writing this, Monstru posted above... - I'm awfully sorry!
you have no reading capabilities? read what monstru said just above you.Quote:
Originally Posted by corross
Here is a 5970 under an EK FC5970. I suspect he's using too much vcore for 1000mhz, however, his gpus are in the 40's while his vrms are in the 80'sQuote:
Originally Posted by corross
http://www.shrani.si/t/3w/rm/4URpRuKx/ek13vload.jpg
http://www.shrani.si/?3w/rm/4URpRuKx/ek13vload.jpg
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...7&postcount=28
wow, soon people are just gonna ask what the VRM temps are.
i wonder if the swifty unisink will even be worthwhile for these.
So, what's the status of that article?Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
Sorry but my VRMs never pass the 80 in gaming, of course if your game is Furemark for hours they will max at 107 for me. Even 71 in crysis, all I have done was raising the fan to 40% and my PC case is open with a 120mm 0.65amp fan blowing on the 5970.
I was too afraid before buying the card but after seeing 71 in crysis I was happy. And that is the hottest VRM and the card was OC to 950/1200.
And this is on idle when the weather is cold on air:
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1259/untitlewrd.png
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8...935and1150.png
ummm you only have one core running with that run at 1000 core....... somethings not right?
Both cores if not my score wouldnt be that high, vGPU=1.17Quote:
Originally Posted by cowie
v on the ram was on default 1.1v. I just cant get the memory past 1150 even with 1.15v any help?
My screen is 1080p and therefore doesnt support 1200, so I just set everything on Extreme with 4xAA 16AF. My cpu is old thought Q9550 at 3.4Ghz.
Whats not right for you? The temps above are not the load temps I stated it was idle temps load with vantage was 66.
oh my bad thats a great clock you aswered my ?'s sry .....its not a performance score you have the settings up
I cant get the memory past 1150 even if I up the votlage can it be my psu not giving enough voltages? TX850 with 70A/12v. Im scared because in Furemark I see powerconsumption 72amp which is higher than the PSU can that burn the psu?
it could be the psu....have you tried to clock the ram and leave core stock?
Yo guys,
I am planing to oc my HD 5970 up to 850 MHz (gpu) and 1100 MHz (VRAM).
Does anyone have a rule of thump how high the voltage is supposed to be having a stable system?
Where is ASUS ROG Bench For 5970?