That is quite the difference. What do you suggest then? Bios, CPUz, or load?
I will update the list as soon as we get this panned out. I will also add VTT and any other columns that we deem necessary.
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3839A523
lp-ut, 3x2g 1333 gskill pk, TRUE push/pull
19x208
http://lakesidepc.com/lput394541.jpgCode:Genie BIOS Setting
CPU Feature
Set VR Current Limit Max: Disabled
Thermal Management Control: Disabled
EIST Function: Enabled
CxE Function: Auto
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
***** Logical Processor Setting *****
Intel HT Technology: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All
DRAM Timing
Memory Control Setting: AUTO
Memory LowGap: 1536M
DRAM Command Rate: AUTO
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 8
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 9
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 8
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 20
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Row Cycle Time (tRC): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW): AUTO
Voltage Setting
O.C. Shut Down Free: Enable O.C.S.D.F
CPU VID Control: 1.36875v
CPU VID Special Add Limit: Enabled
CPU VID Special Add: +101.65v
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.620v
DRAM PWM Switch Frequency: Nominal
DRAM PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU VTT Special Add: +.0375v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.37v
VTT PWM Switch Frequency: Nominal
VTT PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.85v
IOH/ICH 1.1V Voltage: 1.19v
IOH Analog Voltage: 1.15v
ICH 1.5 Voltage: 1.5v
ICH 1.05V Voltage: 1.05v
DIMM 1/2 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 3/4 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 5/6 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
ADDR/CMD VREF Control: Disabled
x DIMM 1/2 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 3/4 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 5/6 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
CPU QPI Drive Strength: Normal
IOH QPI Drive Strength: Normal
Exit Setup Shut down: Mode 2
O.C. Fail Retry Counter: Enabled
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload: Disabled
PPM Function: Enabled
Turbo Mode Function: Disabled
1 core Max Turbo Ratio: 22x
2 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
3 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
4 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio: 19x
* BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings *
QPI Control Settings: Enabled
QPI Link Fast Mode: Enabled
QPI Frequency: AUTO
CPU Base Clock (BCLK): 208 Mhz
Boot Up CPU Base Clock: AUTO
PCIE Clock: 101 Mhz
DRAM Frequency: BCLK*08 Mhz
UnCore Frequency: BCLK*16 Mhz
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Here is my stable settings, does WCG stable for 9hrs and almost 1hr on all cores count? =) (different tasks)
Thats 3843mhz 183x21
I strongly suggest every user reports what the load Vcore was during testing to the best of his knowledge, that usually means CPU-Z, Everest etc while running the tests. Now I have never seen such an "overreporting" problem as on the DFI x58, so usually CPU-Z and Everest should provide accurate numbers.
Load Vcore is the value usually used for comparisons sake, because what you set in bios can be anything from higher to lower than real (most boards undervolt, some overvolt, few are spot-on), also most boards have a substantial vdroop between idle and load. Finally, on my DFI, the idle Vcore is actually a lot lower than load because EIST is working properly with manual Vcore as opposed to Asus and GB mobos, so the only choice that makes sense is load Vcore really.
DMM measured > readout ofc but not many people have the eopportunity to read the real voltages with a DMM, even around here.
I would love to do a DMM Readout, but do not know where on my mobo will show my my vcore =P its a Gigabyte EX58-UD3R
Batch Number: 3838B079
CPU Freq.: 3800MHZ
QPI: 7218MT/s
Multi: 19X
LOAD vcore: 1.19v
CPU VTT: 1.25v
Hyperthreading: ON
LOAD core temps: 60/68/74
Cooling: NOCTUA U12P
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4900/i9203800al0.png
Ok, so here is a little template for you all to help me when adding results to the list. Please use this from now on accompanied with a screenshot this will help out tremendously.
Just copy, paste, and enter you. Thanks.Quote:
Batch Number:
CPU Freq.:
QPI:
Multi:
LOAD vcore:
CPU VTT:
Hyperthreading:
LOAD core temps:
Cooling:
I will include this with ever update as well so you dont have to go searching.
Batch Number: 3836B043
CPU Freq.: 3843
QPI: 3294mhz
Multi: 21x183
LOAD vcore: 1.232
CPU VTT: 1.24
Hyperthreading: ON
LOAD core temps: 65-74C
Cooling: Scythe Mugen2
Batch 3837A732. 13 hours Prime Blend and 50 passes of Linpk stable @1.36v.
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...estthurs-1.jpg
CPU Freq.: 4005Mhz
Multi: 211x19
LOAD vcore: 1.36
CPU VTT: 1.35
Hyperthreading: ON
LOAD core temps: 69-72C
Cooling: Koolance Exos-2 LX-Apogee GTZ
@ MisterMagoo
Pls update the first post if possible for people to know what template to use. Because in a few days you post is somewhere on a page and can't be find anymore. Otherwise PM the OP to pls update his first post.
I'm glad I mentioned the issue about different voltage reports. After reading some reactions it seems everybody had his or her own interpretation which leads to misunderstandings.
MY RESULTS
Batch Number: 3836A875
CPU Freq.: 4020 Mhz
QPI: 3812Mhz
Multi: 18x
LOAD vcore: 1.288v (CPU-z)
CPU VTT: 1.90v
Hyperthreading: OFF
LOAD core temps: 57 / 58 / 60 / 55
Cooling: Water
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4831/...mallpw7.th.jpg
On the short term I will try to get 210 x 20 stable. Then I will make a choice between 212 x 19 or 210 x 20 OC. The advantage of 212 bclk is that my RAM runs at 1700Mhz (8-8-8-24-1T) but on the other side with 210 bclk my CPU runs faster and RAM could get tighter timings.
Will also try to get a 4Ghz setting stable with HT enabled. Tried that today for a bit but seems it needs a lot more vcore then (like 1.42v under load in CPU-z). Should I try to increase QPI/DRAM voltage when enabling HT?
Here's an update on my clock:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2667/4ghz100lprr1.th.jpg
Bios Voltages:
CPU = 1.40625
VTT = 1.375
As I mentioned in another thread I'm having memory issues, but hopefully I'll be able to get them straightened out.
Just got my 920 3836A772 and so far it's a winner as far as I can tell. I've only put it together on the test bench, turned off the speedstep throttles etc, and put the Bclock at 200. It booted with everything else default. I have now been running memtest for the last few hours at BClock of 180 with everything default except for the ram voltage at 1.64.
Looks like a winner!
Can you people also post the Pack Date with your Batch # please...Thx!
Rerun it, it probably has more in it I just need to tinker with the voltages I guess.
Batch Number: 3841A371
CPU Freq.: 4074 Mhz
QPI: 3494Mhz
Multi: 21x
LOAD vcore: 1.376v (CPU-z)
CPU VTT: 1.335v
Hyperthreading: On
LOAD core temps: 61-67
Cpu PLL 1.880
Cooling: Water GTZ Swiftech 320 Rad.
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4627/...ableyc0.th.jpg
My batch is 3836A772. I've now passed 2 passes of memtest at 200x20, with everything on auto, except for the speedstep etc being disabled.
Pack date is 10/27/08
I was thinkin shouldnt we add the uncore clock speed to the sheet as well?
Batch Number:3837B076
CPU Freq.:4009
QPI:QPI???? :p: You mean BCLK? BCLK: 191
Multi:21
LOAD vcore: 1.376v
CPU VTT: 1.39v
VDIMM: 1.62v
Mem Freq: 1527
Hyperthreading: ON
LOAD core temps: 80c, 78c, 79c, 74c
Cooling: TRUE push/pull
http://lakesidepc.com/lput437b.jpg
@ Loonym
Hell, he means bclk instead of QPI indeed. Crap, now I reported wrong value and multi.
@ MisterMagoo
Batch Number: 3836A875
CPU Freq.: 4020 Mhz
BCLK: 212Mhz
CPU Multi: 19x
LOAD vcore: 1.288v (CPU-z)
CPU VTT: 1.90v
Hyperthreading: OFF
LOAD core temps: 60 / 61 / 61 / 58
Cooling: Water
16 hours of Prime 95
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4...tabixq6.th.jpg
No, that is correct. QPI is the same as bclock. It has replaced the FSB (as us i7 owners know).
bclock and QPI arent the same. bclock is the base system speed for the processor, QPI could be a 36 40 and 44x multi of the bclock...I think those are the choices in my BIOS at least.
So yeah, QPI can be different for everyone depending on the multi they use for it.
Also, what about uncore speeds should we list that?
If we wanted to be most complete we should put bclock, QPI bus speed and uncore speed.
Hmmm EVGA techs have described it otherwise...I think you are talking about the QPI link speed...but I see where the confusion comes from. We will just call it bclock or bus speed from now on.
We can add anything we want. But the problem is everytime we add something previous entries become incomplete.
I think if we post the following data it is as complete as possible. This way everybody should be able te reproduce the provided settings on their own machine.
Batch Number: 3836A875
CPU Freq.: 4020 Mhz
BCLK: 212Mhz
CPU Multi: 19x
QPI link: 3813Mhz
QPI multi: 18x
Uncore: 3389Mhz
Uncore multi: 16x
LOAD vcore: 1.288v (CPU-z)
CPU VTT: 1.90v
Hyperthreading: OFF
LOAD core temps: 60 / 61 / 61 / 58
Cooling: Water
IMO if you have the qpi multi you dont need the frequency of the uncore but thats nit picking :) nice clocks btw
Thank you Bobbylite!!!! I think your right with the multi and all. But we have to take in account that there will be some n00bs as well who want to try OC'ing and maybe don't know that MP (QPI and Uncore) x bclk gives them the frequency.
Moreover my P6T-Deluxe doesn't use MP but I can only choose from determined frequencies which raise when raising the bclk. Therefore other people have the opporunity to select the same speed instantly.
Batch # 3838A937
HT off
CPU Vcore 1.35000v in bios, 1.312 idle, 1.312 load OCCT - Prime, 1.296 load linpack
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.315v
CPU PLL 1.860v
DRAM 1.600v
PCIE 1.500v
QPI PLL 1.140v
IOH Core 1.160v
ICH I/O 1.580v
ICH Core 1.140v
http://www.saunders.fr/images/oc5.jpg
Dont know what you guys are referring to when you say MP, because my gigabyte BIOS does not have anything called that. Also, QPI and Uncore are both seperate multpliers of the bclock. Thats why you can have different QPI and Uncore clocks given the same bclock.
Say, you have bclock of 190...
You can have uncore multi of 12-16 not sure which ones my BIOS allow, but either way yeah. And you can have QPI multi of 36 44 46 I think are the options in my BIOS.
I'm sorry it was not clear but I refer to MultiPlier with the abbrevation MP, like you use multi.
Only on my Asus you can't litterly select a multi. You can only choose between a predefined selction of speeds which are ofcourse indirect multipliers. But they are not mentioned that way.
Could someone post the updated spreadsheet (as a spreadsheet, not image)? Thanks!
^^ He has HT disabled and that will remove a good amount of heat 5-10C idle.
:p: here is not even near 0º, right now my room temp is at 22ºc heres my idle temp now:
http://www.saunders.fr/images/oc8.jpg
the magic could be coollaboratory liquid pro, lapped i7, EK-SUPREME LT, HT off running on quite low voltage for 4.2Ghz.
id like to see how cold it would be on arctic condition :slobber:
http://www.saunders.fr/images/02.jpg
Final test:
=======
Prime95 v25.8 Build4 X64 - 17H10M
LinX v0.5.6 X64 - 1H34M (20 Loops)
Batch: 3838B079
CPU Freq.: 4005MHZ
QPI: 7400MT/s (even selecting 10000MT/s@BIOS it goes to 7400MT/s)
PPL: 1.80v
Multi: 19X
LOAD Vcore: 1.28v
CPU VTT: 1.27v
Hyperthreading: ON
LOAD core temps: 74/69/68/63 (Coretemp)
Cooling: NOCTUA U12P
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9...17h4ghzxo5.png
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6497/73131122ww2.png
Nice rig but where are the HDDs?
Just got a B to play with from a buddy of mine that lives near microcenter $229 and guaranteed B stepping cant loose :)
3837B317
3.91ghz
186x21 HT on
Vcore: 1.28
QPI/PLL: 1.275
Vdimm: 1.64
10x linX
GTZ + BI 3x120 3xslipstreams @ 5v
Load temps where 71/70/70/66 but didnt get a shot of them sorry. You can skip this post as I just popped it in though, I expect alot more out of it More to come!
Well, having the same batch number I don't think is any guarantee that you will have a good clocker.
I bought the 920 3836A772 which is the exact same chip as Cardnut99668 (3836a772) and he gets 211x19 @1.376 with temps at 85,83...
For the life of me, I can't go over 205 and the best I can do is Linpack stable but not prime95 stable (go figure..) at 20x200 and 1.49V. I can only get this stable at around 3.8 GHz and lots of volts (I'm on water so temps are much lower than Cardnut's)
So, I have given up with this 920. I ended up buying a 940. The extra multipliers (22) give you an additional 400 MHz to play with around 200 making it much easier to overclock.
I now have full stability at 4.1 GHz in one try. It will boot at 4.4 (22x200) GHz but not into windows. This is stock auto voltage. Maybe I'll see if I can get this to work!
It's also 3836A like the other two. But again, it won't go higher than 205. Perhaps there is some motherboard chipset influence in some cases. The eVGA Classified should let us know about this. First benches bring the Bclk up to 233.
So in the end it's back to square one? If I know that people got 3838B079/080 or 3837B079/080 to run decent clocks with around 1.35-1.4 it's still not safe to say that I'll reach that with the same batch. Or is it just a trend that B batches are better?
I will update and add the other features tonight.
seems like the Gigabytes and ASUS need less voltage than DFI one. Still havn't seen 4200 ghz with HT and Turbo on with an UT DFI...
With my 3837B395 I'm not able to get 4000 Mhz stable with 1,46V + and low DDR3 speed. System crashes with 191x21 or 200x200 =(
Perhaps i shout get a Gigabyte additionally to check out the differences.
Definitely. IMC seems to make the chip poo all over itself at ~4.0GHz without raising various voltages quite a bit, even on the good chips. Oh well, these are Intel's baby steps with IMC, and the chips still clock better on air/water than AMD's second generation Phenom, so poo. Pun. What?
Maybe D0 will have some IMC tweaks? If Intel can bolster the IMC slightly and lower temps ~10°C, I'll be a happy camper. I'm not asking for much, am I? Please, Intel, pllleaaasseee. I love you. I'll send you Canadian beer and bacon! :D
Not 4200 but close. HT on. No need for turbo with 220bclk.
http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...isc/220x19.jpg
my new cpu I7 965:shocked:
batch 3835A
http://images2.hiboox.com/vignettes/...b9a8186204.jpg
http://images4.hiboox.com/vignettes/...73bfe3f3a1.png
http://images0.hiboox.com/vignettes/...7bf10d712c.png
Well i just picked up an i7 Batch 3842A594. Hope my sisters hand has more luck than mine. Anyone has any info on this Batch?
Batch # 3838A937
CPU Vcore 1.40000v in bios 1.360~1.344 idle load
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.355v
CPU PLL 1.860v
DRAM 1.660v
PCIE 1.500v
QPI PLL 1.160v
IOH Core 1.160v
ICH I/O 1.500v
ICH Core 1.140v
room temp 23ºc
http://www.saunders.fr/images/oc11.jpg
Hey, everybody, after combing through the spreadsheet and looking at peoples' experiences, I've posted a thread with a "to buy" list and "to avoid" list of batches. Check it out and let me know if you agree or disagree. Thanks!
Edit: doh! I forgot the link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=218740
anyone else having issues with the cpuz validation now that it changed on the 16th? Seems to be isolated with x58 boards.
3838B with some OCZ memory. Don't have access to any settings now. Had to move to some other boards to test SSDs. Hope to back to it within the week. Didn't have time to do much with the 2000 CAS 8 Kingston. Kind of excited to see what the board can do with them. This is the only screenshot I have of the Hypers at 7-8-7.
http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...yper2000_1.jpg
boing....
I know I keep saying it but update tonight, in a few.
A-ha, I see it now. I already had it as a "most wanted batch" in this thread...your new data just makes me want it more!
+15h prime stable with 8 instances, ht on, 3837B072
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/213...00prime.th.jpg
PD-Still testing if i can low vcore, this thing burns
We were at MC last Sunday and my Brother bought one of this same batch but he hasn't the time to let me assemble his rig yet (he is complete newb to PC assembly so I will have to put it together for him). We were there because of the 20% saving MC is having until 3/1 and I urged him to buy new stuffs as his current PC is getting pretty old and slow. He bought the MSI X58 Platinum SLI along with an i7 920, a 9600GT, Kingston Value PC3-10600 (DDR3-1333) and few other stuffs. I will be putting it together for him this coming Saturday so we'll see how OCable this batch can be.
Meanwhile, I got myself a 3844A361 and it seems to take less voltage to reach the 4.2Ghz than my 3837A769, which I bought upon launch (last year). It also seems to OC better, too.
Looks like the 3836B isn't the champ I thought it would be, but it's capable enough for me. These numbers aren't final, I need to do some voltage tweaking as I think I can lower some of them, tweak my RAM timings, bump up the uncore, and push for 4.2 GHz when I can find the time. The idle temps seem a bit high for water cooling, might have a bad mount. More to come.
Batch Number: 3836B043
CPU Freq.: 4000 Mhz
BCLK: 200 Mhz
CPU Multi: Auto (20x)
EIST: On
Turbo: Off
QPI link: 3600 Mhz
QPI multi: 18x
Uncore: 2400 Mhz
Uncore multi: 12x
LOAD vcore: 1.352v (CPU-Z)
CPU PLL: 1.92v
Hyperthreading: Off
LOAD core temps: 72 / 69 / 71 / 63
Cooling: Water (D-Tek v1, Thermochill 3x120)
http://www.kt-photography.net/desktop1.jpg
hi guys
my Ci7 920 batch: 3839A626
209x21 LinX 20 times of run and prime blend stable
HT OFF
Uncore =209x16
DRAM = 209x8 8-8-8-21 1T
Vcore = 1.376[load linx 5100mb use]/1.392[load prime blend]/1.424idle
CPU VTT = 1.344load/1.328idle
vDIMM = 1.616
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8803/209x21full.png
I have a 3841A5xx (I have to verify the last digits) that is so far doing 200x20 with 1.344v. I am going to try the 21 multi and push farther a bit later today. I'll get back with details.
My chip is a 3842A, here are the results:
Speed: 4Ghz 19X211 Linx stable
Vcore: 1.36 idle in windows, 1.336 load
QPI: +0.21V (Bios doesnt tell exact value)
CPU PLL: 1.88
DRAM V: 1.65
HT: On
Here is the valadation link: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=513494
I am trying to put up a pic showing it stable but I dont know how to post it, can someone tell me how?
Also to all of you people putting 1.4V and higher, the max safe volts for these chips is 1.375, so you should lower the voltage a little bit unless you dont mind going over.
Intel Core i7 920
OC'd to 3.32 GHz using stock cooler (starting to OC)
HT on, Turbo off, C1E and all other throttling options disabled using Intel DX58SO board.
Batch #3838A557
Here is mine!
Batch # 3839A626
4018Mhz 19x212
Load voltage 1.27-1.28V
i7 920
Evga 58 SLI
Corsair Dominator 1600
Water
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...ujo1/vcore.jpg
MrMason
CPU PLL (uncore voltage)???
Vdram?
all these results really need to be put into some kind of database for easier browsing
read through 500 posts? no thanks!
unfortunately the database at overclockers.com is down for redesign
i920 #3837B017
CPU Freq.: 4009 Mhz
Hypert-hreading: on
BCLK: 211 Mhz
CPU Multi: 19x
Uncore multi: 16x
Dram Multi: 6x (@6-6-6-24 1.65v)
QPI link: 3800 Mhz
Uncore: 3380 Mhz
LOAD Vcore: 1.34v (CPU-Z)
CPU/QPI VVT: 1.34v
Cooling: Air (Noctua NH-U12P )
Testet : 1 hour primestable
@4.01GHZ (211x19) HT:on, 1.34v
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9375/4ghz8bk6.th.jpg
Also an extra setup for applications without support for HT.
@4.2GHZ(200x21) HT:off, 1.37v
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7846/4ghz4.th.jpg
I have been using the 4GHZ + HT for 24/7 for a while now, and this is going to be my primely set up, but I have switched to 4.2GHZ HT:off a few times too.
The have 3841A321 at a shop here. I'm tempted to pick one up and see what it does but I don't see that many 3841A results in the spreadsheet, though there are a few in the thread.
Are there any negative results from that batch?
Either that, or maybe I'll wait for the D0 stepping to hit.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...920/RAM_2k.jpg
Those are my daily 24/7 settings. Batch #: 3841A529
I am now running the RAM at 8-8-8-20-1T though. That screenshot has it at 8-8-8-25-1T. The chip is 4.1-4.2 benchable with 1.44v, but 4GHz is the sweet spot for 2000MHz RAM.
dont have pics but have 3839A604 and did 4.3 @ 1.45 ht on and turbo on.
My temps were all around 90C
hey guys currently testing a new 920 batch#3841A554 (so far the new cpu is priming at 21x200 at 1.39v load HT off). I've seen a lot of people here running a single instance of p95, I've been running for my stability testing dual instances of p95. could someone here please let me know how many instances should I run and if intel burn test is better than p95. thanks.
One instance of the newest P95 should max out all eight threads with HT enabled. I run the Blend test to check the stability of my system as a whole. Intel Burntest is far better for determining the stability of your CPU. It will usually detect an error FAR faster than Prime and will increase your temps well above what P95 is capable of.
what version is the p95 to use ? where to get it
I run 4 instances 2 threads each of prime95 64bit v25.8, each instance uses 1.6gb of ram while I run one custom to use up a majority of whatever free ram is left, usually around 600mb for the last instance.
EDIT: I guess 25.9 is now available
ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/
anyone has a 920 3838B038 batch?
Just picked up two 3842A613 lets see how this new batch works :)
I'm going to grab a 3841A321 today (if the store still has any left).
I'll report back on my findings here.