Asus P5E3 Premium Wi-fi-AP

Just want to put a tempplate of my settings... so anyone knows what im upto in case of questions etc :)

This is 1hr OCCT 2.0 MIX stable, and i take 1hr mix as atleast 8hr of prime or orthos.

noticed that Large FFT did NOT crash where OCCT did after mintutes.

AI Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 467
PCIE Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR3-1869Mhz
DRAM Command Rate: 1N

Dram Skew Control:

CLK SKEW channel A2: 200ps
CLK SKEW channel B2: 225ps

DRAM Timing Control: Manual


CAS# Latency: 7
RAS# to CAS# Latency: 6
RAS# to PRE Time: 5
RAS# ACT Time: 16
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
REF Cycle Time: 72
WRITE Recovery Time: Auto
READ to PRE Time: Auto


DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual
Performance Level: 06

Pull-in Of channel A Phase 1: Disabled
Pull-in Of channel A Phase 2: Disabled
Pull-in Of channel B Phase 1: Disabled
Pull-in Of channel B Phase 2: Disabled

Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage: 1.45~
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.69
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.695
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.5
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.10 (actually works better with lower voltage here, atleast on dual)
DRAM Voltage: 2.06
NB Voltage: 1.55
NB GTL Voltage Reference: 0.61
SB Voltage: Auto
Clock Over-Charging Voltage: 0.90

Load-Line Calibration: Performance
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Advanced > CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Setting: 9.0
C1E Support: Disabled (take this off)
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled

Played for some hours now..

and the bios are working really good now i think..

reached FSB 565, 570 locked nomather that PL.

i was so stupid when playing I allways had strap 333 on, and i got mad why it didnt posted at 550...hehe...smart :S as soon as i changed to 400 i booted right up at 560 and loaded windows.

no PL lower than 7 are capable of 500fsb.

have a question, does ANYONE know how i can change the TREF in bios? it chooses the lowest value nomather what setting or timing i choose.
i gain over 100mb/s by putting this on highest setting.

Second question. as soon as i put vMCH over 1.73 it just dont want to play anymore..
its that magic number, 1.75+ it just starts over after post... someone else? I could surely reach more fsb it this would work.
565 at 1.73 are max

think the board are starting to feel better now :)

These random reboots may be a software conflict. Maybe with java.

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Played for some hours now..

and the bios are working really good now i think..

reached FSB 565, 570 locked nomather that PL.

i was so stupid when playing I allways had strap 333 on, and i got mad why it didnt posted at 550...hehe...smart :S as soon as i changed to 400 i booted right up at 560 and loaded windows.

no PL lower than 7 are capable of 500fsb.

have a question, does ANYONE know how i can change the TREF in bios? it chooses the lowest value nomather what setting or timing i choose.
i gain over 100mb/s by putting this on highest setting.

Second question. as soon as i put vMCH over 1.73 it just dont want to play anymore..
its that magic number, 1.75+ it just starts over after post... someone else? I could surely reach more fsb it this would work.
565 at 1.73 are max

think the board are starting to feel better now :)

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Are you running the same BIOS settings that you posted above with the 333 strap now at 565 fsb on the 400 strap?

Of course bad hardware will cause software conflicts

Randon boot problems
In theory, this is a driver or other software issue, which encounters a stack problem. In practice, it has historically pointed to a driver problem and also occurs when RAM itself is flawed.

Has anyone tried NUNO suggestion and increase Vcore?
For random reboots.

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I can help with your 4gb goal. My suggestion: Try some different RAM. I am not bashing OCZ, but the platinum kits do not seem to work well in these boards. I had 3 kits, and none of them would work in my board-excuse me-make that boards. I had so many difficulties, that I thought I must have gotten a bad mobo. I ended up RMAing a board for nothing.

I now have OCZ 4gb 1800mhz Reapers. If I had the NB voltage set correctly, they would have worked immediately. No messing with clock skews, GTL's etc. They JUST WORK. Like good memory should. I don't know what the issue is with the 1600mhz kit, but mine were the 1600mhz 4gb EB series with rated timings at 7-6-6-24. Not only would those timings not work, but neither would 7-7-7-24. The weird thing is, the latest kit that I had did work at first, at 7-7-7-20 @ 1.88v, but eventually (a couple of weeks) my computer started freezing and getting BSOD's. A quick check confirmed Memtest errors on test 4 and sometimes test 6.

Oh well, the new memory is great so far. The last 2 months fighting with the old memory may be enough to keep me from trying to overclock these, though. LOL. :shrug:

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I have a HD Sony camcorder that records AVCHD m2ts files. The Sony Picture Motion Browser software only supports 32 bit OS which is why I went that way initially. I have now learned that there are other players/codecs that are available that should work to play these files. Also the video editing software, Vegas Movie Studio Platinum Edition supports 64 bit.

After thinking about things for a bit, I decided to go exactly your way and go with the OCZ Reapers-1800 2x2GB. I have 32 bit vista currently but am going to be switching over to 64 bit soon. OCZ customer service was again very helpful when I talked to them today. I am going with the X-Ship RMA so the Reapers should hopefully be in the mail to me soon.

What do you recommend for inital NB voltage settings? Do you have DRAM static read and DRAM dynamic write disabled? Any other settings that you've found beneficial? I am planning to go with default fsb 400MHz and DRAM frequency 1600 MHz. Hopefully be able to work up from there in time but like you say, no hurry.

I think some people maybe not thinking that the penryn does change in vcore after a while...
and you have to raise it a little.. it can run almost daily work with to low vcore actually...
this cpu are not as sensitive as conroe. It could also be wrong settings for the PLL and vFSB
if you¨re not running specially high fsb keep these settings low, and also dont forget GTL and RAM skew.

Sauria: No not at all :) i tried to push it to the max more or less..
Loosened up Clock twister to light, Ram timings to CL8 and various volts.

but high fsb like that requires some nasty vMCH.

@voodo, if you dont mind, ..what strap, pl and twister setting were you using at 466fsb post 279

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When you save a bio profile it is only good for that bio version

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thanks, :)

Thanks Infa

Np ;) just wished that the board wouldnt freak out past 1.75 .. it just reboots right after post. :(

some kind of OV protection maybe.

Sorry, too lazy to resize right now. Here is a link to my settings. http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...t=38299&page=2 The northbridge is kinda high, but I tested lower settings and on my board, even 1 click lower resulted in some instability while gaming. Since I set these, no signs of instability whatsoever. I just placed a fan over the NB so I would feel better. Perhapse If I relaxed the clock twister a notch or 2 I could get away with less NB voltage, but what fun would that be?

Also, the Vcore may look high, but under load while priming it is actually about 1.294v and at idle it is 1.31v. I DO NOT use the LLC PERFORMANCE setting.

Thanks for the link. I am anxious to be able to give this ram a go. I see you have clock twister at stronger. What does clock twister actually accomplish and how have you found that it affects your performance/stability?

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Thanks for the link. I am anxious to be able to give this ram a go. I see you have clock twister at stronger. What does clock twister actually accomplish and how have you found that it affects your performance/stability?

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I will confess that I don't know exactly, but I believe it manipulates some of the internal chipset timings much the same way that dropping the performance level does. It Lowers latency and increases bandwidth.

For example, at 400mhz, I could run PL 6, but only with clock twister set to AUTO, now, if I had 2x1gb sticks, I may have been able to set the clock twister more aggressively. At 450, I have to run PL7, but I am able to set the clock twister to Stronger, and probably get nearly the same performance. Asus bios seem to have some redundant settings. In older boards, I thought enabling the STATIC READ CONTROL did much the same thing, but on this board, it doesn't seem to do much.

If you try to get too aggressive with the clock twister for a given performance level, stability will be negatively affected. However, if you are willing to run higher NB voltages you can re-gain that stability.....to a point.

I am still not completely sure that 1.57v 24/7 os ok, since these boards don't report NB temperature, but I do have a fan on the NB heatsink, so I should be OK. I also found that even though a system could be prime stable for hours, you still need to test with some heavy gaming like Crysis, because the added load from taxing the PCI-E bus told me I wasn't COMPLETELY stable till I raised the NB one more notch.

Well. personally, i dont think it gain nothing in real life performance by having at stronger.. :) but i dont care either.. im at stronger and i gain 100mb/s read by that, and then im using it!! :)

no one knows exactly what it does, but i do also think that it is like soapman says... some internal NB settings. but if you feel some instability just get this down a notch..
its mostly from strong to stronger it doesnt do almost anything, but loosening this up more do hurt performance.

I managad to reduce my vdimm now to 2.06 for 1869 TIGHT timings with TRFC at 48! that's low at that speed :) Did play some with the Dram Skew settings, and delayed it as soulcalibur(dont remember exactly:)) said, and it feels good, and still getting over an hour in Occt MIX.
be aware of using TO high vMCH couse this will only hurt stability, it likes the exact value for the given settings in bios.

Didnt know that it dit not monitor the NB.. what Temp are the onboard sensor showing then?? thought it seemed odd, it baraely changed, 2 degrees it changed over an hour of OCCT :)

Now I have a question. Has anyone played with the "Pull in" of the farious "phases" under transaction booseter? It is my understanding, that if you pull in all phases, you would het similar performance to fropping the performance level one notch. I havent ever touched these though. Anyone?

Also, would you need to pull in the first phase before you can pull in the second? It would seem so, but I don't know about these settings.

Thx razmatazz,

Disabling legacy usb and expressgate made it possible to get past system post with altered bios settings. :up:

When i test my sticks at 1333Mhz (fsb333) with memtest86 v3.4a i always get errors in test 4.
When i run them at 1600Mhz (fsb400) i dont get any errors. (did 2 passes)

Someone know how this can be??


I ussed settings:

Ai Overclock Tuner = Manual
eXtreme Memory Profile = Disabled
CPU Ratio Setting = 8
FSB Strap to Northbridge = 400
FSB = 333 and 400

DRAM Timing Control = Manual
DRAM Frequency = DDR3-1600
DRAM Command Rate = 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A = Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B = Auto
DRAM Timing Control = Manual
CAS# Latency = 7
RAS# to CAS# Delay = 7
RAS# PRE Time = 7
RAS# ACT Time = 20
All Else to Auto

DRAM Static Read Control = Auto
DRAM Dynamic Write Control = Auto

Ai Clock Twister = Auto
Transaction Booster = Auto

CPU Voltage = 1.350v (1.270-1.280 at load) (its a 1.250v chip)
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto
FSB Termination Voltage = Auto
DRAM Voltage = 1.9v
NB Voltage = Auto
SB Voltage = Auto
Clock Over-Charging Voltage = Auto
Load Line Calibration = Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference = Auto
NB GTL Voltage Reference = Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled



I hope i can keep system stable this time, and will try to make some further OC's from here on.


Kazi

I am running OCCT v2.0.0a but i dont realy have a clue what it good for.
It does shows temps near 60 deg.

How does this program give feedback, as to determining a succesfull OC?

Thanks Kazi

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Going on Tony's advice above and assuming my RAM is Micron, I'm now running a CLK skew (all other skew on auto) of 300ps delay on the A channels and 275ps delay on the B channels. Everything else is at stock volts, including vCore, vTT, NB voltage and vPLL, at 400FSB / 8x. System is now SuperPI stable and I haven't had any random low-load reboots yet.

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Kazi,

After having spent some time reading some of the posts on Corsair and OCZ tech support forums, it looks like some people may have better stability after disabling DRAM static read control and DRAM dynamic write control. You could give that a try. I personally haven't noticed much of a difference.

I think that perhaps you may notice the most improvement by applying some clock skew delay. Check out SoulsCollective expierence. He is also running Corsair ram. And, given the fact that you are running 4GB ram I believe that clock skew is likely going to be all the more important.

FSB 463 NB 1.63 Vtt 1.12 GTL 0/1 .655 2/3 .670

Everything else is on auto

Soapman: Yes been playing some with these, its some kind of "mild" Performance Level... maybe something that just lowers just RAM internal timings of some kind?
and the performance i got was the same as PL 6 even when i had PL7 at the moment, dont really know if you have to pull in all channels, but maybe you have to, tried the other day again, and performance were not as before i pulled all, but maybe it just was a coincidente together with som other settings i forgot that i changed at the moment.

Kazi: Yes, OCCT are a stability program as every else, but "people" and the creator says occt are a notch better on detecting errors earlier than other program..
so they say that 1hr are like 6-8 ORthos/prime hours. The point with these program are to see if your computer are stable, and dont crashes etc when playing games, rendering som heavy stuff. and you'll be noticed if there are some error detected i promise, and when its finished its finised, if you have chosen that options.

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Im liking the 503 better to... system got stable where it hasnt been..

btw, what max fsb can you get with 266 strap? and what bios?

and thanks for the link!

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Still like 0503 the best Infa?

Yeah, Im liking it :) more stable, more working straps and dividers... keeper for me :)

Even though, with 151 and 204, 266 strap worked att 500fsb, but maybe that just was a misstake? it prolly shouldnt handle 500fsb..
so maybe it just was a "fault".

Good, thanks. I cannot find the link.

i can have a link for a while.

Bios 503 Beta

Http://hem.bredband.net/infan/P5E3-A...emium-0503.zip

Great -- it's a beta -- thanks! Fast connection :)

It's NP ... yeah its fast :) one of swedens fastest ISP.
Im on 100mbit myself :) FAST :P

how are the Bios working?

Wow, I'm getting happy with 10 mbit in rural Texas -- we're behind the times. Updating BIOS now. Thinking I need to do it this way:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...e=en-us&page=1

OK, my system passed 1 hour OCCT with DDR@1600Mhz.
And with the same settigns it also passed 2 passes of memtest86 3.4a.
Can i call the system stabel with these settings?

I am gonna do some further OC's this weekend.
What should i use for a quick stability test when oc'ing?
I cant wait for 4-8 hours of prime,.....

well 1hr of OCCT MIX are a great thing to do...

for a FAST, usable stable setting, to see if it even are an idea of keeping it, use Super-pi 32m, testing the ram quite well...
if it passes that, then use OCCT for an 30 mins to an hour.

regards.

Well sauria, 10mbit are not bad... had it before i moved here, and its good, but this is better, 10mbit were on ADSL.
this 100mbit are on Fiber....pining 0-30ms all over the world more or less hehe... great for games.

Edit: nah god 4mbyte sek from texas, 700kbs up :) 300ms ....not bad hehe.

The swedes will rule the internet

Hi guys

Does thermaltake extreme 120 CPU cooler fit on this mobo?

Regards

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Hi guys

Does thermaltake extreme 120 CPU cooler fit on this mobo?

Regards

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YES! I have this board and cooler.:up: It will fit in either direction also, as in having the fan blowing out the back or out the top of your case.

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Hi guys

Does thermaltake extreme 120 CPU cooler fit on this mobo?

Regards

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Thermaltake of Thermalright ??

I believe the hype is over the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme !!!! :D

Correct me someone if I'm wrong... :rolleyes:

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Thermaltake of Thermalright ??

I believe the hype is over the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme !!!! :D

Correct me someone if I'm wrong... :rolleyes:

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Lol now im just confused! i will double check now ....

Regards

Lol nick2006 your right!

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HS-039-TR

Thanks for pointing that out

Seems like the low load randon boots is caused by LLC

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=189507

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Seems like the low load randon boots is caused by LLC

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=189507

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VERY interesting info !!!

As it is suggested, we must DISABLE it !!!! ;)

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VERY interesting info !!!

As it is suggested, we must DISABLE it !!!! ;)

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yes, but how can we disabled it? it has 3 options( Auto, Normal, Performance)
i don't see disabled option. how???
also is it true that in 45nm cpu's we have to put it always disabled?

thank you my friend! be well!!!

Normal = Intel Specs = disabled. ;)

i always use Normal with my 45nm CPUs.

a shame that such board pricy , we customers can't use LLC without any issues

Gave up that X48 as my main rig and went back to P35 who made me so happy , particurlarly P5K blackpearl .

too tired to play with and searching for stability as those last days were nightmares with random crashes ,freezes when booting etc .

definitively POS for me and finally asus express gate not so useful . :p:

:down:

I thought the LLC issues were with the rampage? does the premium have them too?

don't know donster , but this board is too messy , and I suspect asus to send " chosen ones" for reviews .


Kris Boughton from anandtech said he found stability with just " 1.35" on NB

how come :confused: when people down here are all with higher voltages to get stability ....


2 reviews talked about less voltage values for X48 vs other chipsets ( X38 / P 35 ) but my own experience with the same chip and X48 and P35 show me something different ....

this board doesn't worth its price .

overated .

damn it lol ... ive been looking for a new board for a month or so now with no luck, nforce 790I sounds like a gamble and now this :(!! what to do

My advice is new graphic card are to come , and ati 's ones look very promising ( 4870 specially )

Take a good P35 board if you don't need sli and wait for Nehalem to show if you want some DDR3.

I actually don't wanna spend lot of bucks for graphic card and dual gpu depend on too much factors to get them work ( drivers specially ) doesn't worth it IMO.

with ati/nvidia roadmap , expect to see lot of choice for yor needs .

I personaly wait for 4870 X2 benches and then I decide which to pick .so I don't need 2 x 16 pci-e :p:

Nvidia sucks with their prices . See people who paid full price for 9800s and then prices went down with 60€ cheaper than less than 2 months !!

you can try X48 though but at your risks ...

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It's NP ... yeah its fast :) one of swedens fastest ISP.
Im on 100mbit myself :) FAST :P

how are the Bios working?

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Seems more stable than 0204 -- do you run 400 strap? LLC to normal? Thanks!

any guy's can help me ???
cant get higher then 1580mhz mem at any timings :( .
the kit im using is OCZ PC3 1600mhz cas7-6-6 , at any settings ot wont boot :(

Guys would this be a good board for a non overclocker? max id do is tweak a few settings in the bios!

Thanks

bios tweaking is very sweet on this board its al i can say to u :)

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bios tweaking is very sweet on this board its al i can say to u :)

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Ahh cool! but why cant you answer my Q about the board at Stock settings? im sure its ok but want to be sure

Thanks

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Ahh cool! but why cant you answer my Q about the board at Stock settings? im sure its ok but want to be sure

Thanks

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If you are not going to OC it, then it's a waste of money. It is a great OC'er and should be used accordingly. If you just want to tweak a bit, then go for a lower level X48 or one of the new P45 boards IMHO. WHich is what I did for my brother, he likes a stable system and likes to get a little extra performance from his components so I lightly overclock it for him; I got him a Q9450 and an ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe, he is running them at 400FSB and he is as happy as a pig in $h!t.

PS: P5E3 Premium and P5Q3 Deluxe have almost all the same features, but the P5Q3 is about $150 cheaper; just thought you might want to know that.

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If you are not going to OC it, then it's a waste of money. It is a great OC'er and should be used accordingly. If you just want to tweak a bit, then go for a lower level X48 or one of the new P45 boards IMHO. WHich is what I did for my brother, he likes a stable system and likes to get a little extra performance from his components so I lightly overclock it for him; I got him a Q9450 and an ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe, he is running them at 400FSB and he is as happy as a pig in $h!t.

PS: P5E3 Premium and P5Q3 Deluxe have almost all the same features, but the P5Q3 is about $150 cheaper; just thought you might want to know that.

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Thanks ever so much Telo ... I say i wont overclock but itd be nice to have the option with a good mobo, money isnt an issue as i only do a build every 3/4 years, so when i get the chance i normally do it properly :P

just went all out guys, ordered the following

Asus P5E3 premium
Intel core 2 Q9450 + thermalright 120 extreme + noctua cooler
4GB OCZ platinum
BFG GTX 280
2x Velociraptor 300gb's
Auzentech xfi prelude
Blu ray player/dvd RW
Thermaltake toughpower 850W PSU
Antec P182
2 extra noctua case fans

Cant wait to build it now :D

Just got in the 2X2GB Reaper DDR3-1800 which replaced 4X1GB platinum (I had actually been running 2X1GB do to stability issues. Set NB to 1.41 and all else to auto. FSB at 400 MHz which is default. Very stable so far. I may be able to get by with lower NB voltage at this level. Donster, just so you know, OCZ platinum memory has been a real pain in the a$$ with this board. Soapman 72 has had similar problems and is doing well with the Reapers. Next step will be to increase FSB and try to push memory up to 1800 MHz.

I also found the information about the LLC very informative. Thank you for the link Voodo. This board has suffered the same problem with random crashing as the Rampage Formula. I ran into more problems when I was running 4X1GB OCZ Platinum. If I would have known about setting LLC to normal I likely would not have had as much problems. So far so good though with the Reapers.

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Just got in the 2X2GB Reaper DDR3-1800 which replaced 4X1GB platinum (I had actually been running 2X1GB do to stability issues. Set NB to 1.41 and all else to auto. FSB at 400 MHz which is default. Very stable so far. I may be able to get by with lower NB voltage at this level. Donster, just so you know, OCZ platinum memory has been a real pain in the a$$ with this board. Soapman 72 has had similar problems and is doing well with the Reapers. Next step will be to increase FSB and try to push memory up to 1800 MHz.

I also found the information about the LLC very informative. Thank you for the link Voodo. This board has suffered the same problem with random crashing as the Rampage Formula. I ran into more problems when I was running 4X1GB OCZ Platinum. If I would have known about setting LLC to normal I likely would not have had as much problems. So far so good though with the Reapers.

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I still have absolutely ZERO issues with the reapers. I believe I posted a link a couple of pages back, to my bios settings over on the OCZ forum. I am running alot more NB voltage than you are at the moment (1.57v), but this is because I am also running the clock twister setting on STRONGER. On auto, you may be able to get away with 1.49v to 1.53v. But you will have to test that out for your particular board. I also recommend running the LLC to NORMAL or AUTO, as running the PERFORMANCE setting often results in problems under light load. Heavy loads are not a problem, since the Vcore will actually be higher when the load is near 100%. Lighter loads or even an idle cpu often won't receive enough Vcore to be completely stable.

For the record, I tried running 8-8-8-24 vs the slightly looser 8-8-8-27 stock timings, and it was not prime stable. That was without increasing Vdimm. I don't feel that raising the Vdimm is worth the minute improvement in memory performance, so I went back to stock timings. I also tried 460mhz fsb, and that did not even pass memtest, but again, that was without tweaking any voltages. I may have needed more Vcore, NB voltage, or Vdimm for that to work, but I did not get around to playing with any of those. I don't know that I need the increased heat in my CPU, and I certainly will not go past 1.57v to the NB for 24/7 use, so overclocking on this memory may be pretty much out of the question for me. At least it is stable at advertised settings though.

Good luck with the reapers. You should have very little problems setting them up for 1800mhz

Here below are 2 model numbers for the P5E3 Premium WiFi-AP @n

90MIB3L1G0EAY00T
90MIB3L0G0EAY00Z


Both motherbord's looks the same to me but can someone tell more about this.

Hopefully someone can clear this question up. Thank you!!!

those are numbers that inducate the order off building in the line ;)

hey people

just putting my new system together with this board ... this is a really basic Q! Im running at stock but like to tweak settings like the AI overclock tuner etc ... for a Q9450 the FSB is 1333 right? so thats a multiplier of 8 x fsb frequency of 333 = 2600 mhz? please dont laugh ive been outa the game too long lol :P

any help appreciated

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those are numbers that inducate the order off building in the line ;)

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so which one is better? or its the same?

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hey people

just putting my new system together with this board ... this is a really basic Q! Im running at stock but like to tweak settings like the AI overclock tuner etc ... for a Q9450 the FSB is 1333 right? so thats a multiplier of 8 x fsb frequency of 333 = 2600 mhz? please dont laugh ive been outa the game too long lol :P

any help appreciated

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yup, 2.66.

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yup, 2.66.

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Thanks for the reply dude ... much appreciated! havnt built a new system in like 3 years so just recapping on a few things :)

Guys im using official bios 0401, just a few questions regarding some settings ive never seen/heard of before ... can anyone tell me what these settings to do and if they should be enabled/disabled ?

Memory remap feature ? its enabled as default

Initiate graphics adapter ? im guessing this is a kind of replacement for init display first ... I.e pci/agp or pci/pcie? peg/pci is the default setting

Peg port control ? auto by default

Peg port force 1x ? disabled by default

Last but not least is ACPI 2.0 ... i know what this is but cant remember if i had it enabled on my a8n32sli, do you guys have this enabled?

Many thanks people :)

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Guys im using official bios 0401, just a few questions regarding some settings ive never seen/heard of before ... can anyone tell me what these settings to do and if they should be enabled/disabled ?

Memory remap feature ? its enabled as default

Initiate graphics adapter ? im guessing this is a kind of replacement for init display first ... I.e pci/agp or pci/pcie? peg/pci is the default setting

Peg port control ? auto by default

Peg port force 1x ? disabled by default

Last but not least is ACPI 2.0 ... i know what this is but cant remember if i had it enabled on my a8n32sli, do you guys have this enabled?

Many thanks people :)

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lol surely someone on here knows ? :D

bump!!

Hey guys

Just received this board and am having trouble with removing the passive cooling setup. I have unsecured the screws and pushpins but the both the SB and NB do not budge.

Should I let it be?

Not really crazy about breaking out the heat gun, but maybe plugging the board in and running it 4 a bit should loosen up the sh*t they applied on there.

Grrr:shakes:

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Originally Posted by Donster

Guys im using official bios 0401, just a few questions regarding some settings ive never seen/heard of before ... can anyone tell me what these settings to do and if they should be enabled/disabled ?

Memory remap feature ? its enabled as default

Initiate graphics adapter ? im guessing this is a kind of replacement for init display first ... I.e pci/agp or pci/pcie? peg/pci is the default setting

Peg port control ? auto by default

Peg port force 1x ? disabled by default

Last but not least is ACPI 2.0 ... i know what this is but cant remember if i had it enabled on my a8n32sli, do you guys have this enabled?

Many thanks people :)

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Ok, Memory Remap is used when you got more than 3gb mem, then u enable this, and you have to have 64bit OS also to get all 4+Gb.

PEG port control, just what it says, it auto controls the PCI-E port.

PEG port Force, yeah also what it says, Force PCI-E to 1X for some reason.

ACPI, i dont know for sure, has to do with the power source of some kind, how the board handles it or something, no one ever speaks of it, so it cant be that important.

regards!

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Last but not least is ACPI 2.0 ... i know what this is but cant remember if i had it enabled on my a8n32sli, do you guys have this enabled?

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ACPI = Advanced Configuration Power Interface [I think, I'm a bit rusty on my tech talk]; it is a power management feature.

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Originally Posted by Donster

just went all out guys, ordered the following

Asus P5E3 premium
Intel core 2 Q9450 + thermalright 120 extreme + noctua cooler
4GB OCZ platinum
BFG GTX 280
2x Velociraptor 300gb's
Auzentech xfi prelude
Blu ray player/dvd RW
Thermaltake toughpower 850W PSU
Antec P182
2 extra noctua case fans

Cant wait to build it now :D

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Seems like you are going all out for power. One thing though, getting a GTX280 and a board that does not support SLI is not a great idea since you won't be able to double up your video cards if you decide to do so later on. Go for the 790i Ultra board IMHO; that or drop the GTX280 and hold out for the HD4870X2.

Hi guys! I´m having some trobble with BSOD on my Premium, I have been watching this tread know and uppdated to 503 beta bios. My screen goes black and reboots itself, it´s hapend when I play HOMM5, browsing the internet or watching a movie. BUT my rig is 8h+ houres OCCT blend stable @ 400*9,5 1,56v LLC Enable 800mhz 8-8-8-21 @ 1,76v 1,4xx NB. Heat zinks are hot to the touch but not burning hot. Thinking it could be my board not likning my A-data mems, anyone else got troubble with P5E3 Premium and A-Data? Recently got a new Samsun T220 screens, but i can´t see how that can cause BSOD´s? Could my HD4850 cause this BSOD´s? Is there any way to know if it´s my GFX\MEM\CPU\MB that´s borked?

EDIT 3,3V line for Vodoo
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6h50-Volt3.png

5V a bit shakey...
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...6h50-Volt5.png


However never trust OCCT or any windows based program for voltage messurements!

I dont have this problem, or atleast i dont care if my game crashes once in a week or so...

but this problem has been mentioned earlier in this thread, try 2 stuff.... that may help.

Change skew on the RAM, to delay A like 200ps and B 225.
other is to Disable LLC, people have said this make this crashes you speak of.

this board IS tricky when its pushed, not that you are, but just sayin! it freakin making me crazy sometimes :)

Disable LLC and raise Vcore (if necessary) until system is OCCT stable once again.

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Originally Posted by rubberToe

Hey guys

Just received this board and am having trouble with removing the passive cooling setup. I have unsecured the screws and pushpins but the both the SB and NB do not budge.

Should I let it be?

Not really crazy about breaking out the heat gun, but maybe plugging the board in and running it 4 a bit should loosen up the sh*t they applied on there.

Grrr:shakes:

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I'm trying to figure that one out myself, because next weekend everything is going water.

So, if anyone has any ideas as to the easiest way to remove them, the suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!! :up:

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I'm trying to figure that one out myself, because next weekend everything is going water.

So, if anyone has any ideas as to the easiest way to remove them, the suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!! :up:

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First up, I take no responsibility on the outcome, but this is what I did to run this board under water:

Run your board on a stress test for an hour or so, that will soften up the thermal compound without the heat gun; doing this without placing the board in the case is ideal. Once you shut it down, go to work on the screws, then place a thick piece of plastic [old CD case, game case, whatever you can get] on the board area you are going to apply some lite pressure with a flat screwdriver [you shouldn't need to apply much strength if you run your board for at least an hour with a stress test]; your first target should be the SB heatsink as you do not want to bend the heatpipe coming from it to the NB heatsink. Once the SB is done, quickly move for the NB, now you hold the entire assembly by the heatpipe coming from the NB in both directions; get your piece of plactic and place it in a spot that will allow you to apply the lite pressure to pop the heatsink. When you remove then, they will make a kind of loud pop sound, you shouldn't be alarmed about it. The next step is the push pins for the VR heatsinks, using a pair of small pliers will do the trick there, just be careful not to scratch the board or over pressure the pins.

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Originally Posted by rubberToe

Hey guys

Just received this board and am having trouble with removing the passive cooling setup. I have unsecured the screws and pushpins but the both the SB and NB do not budge.

Should I let it be?

Not really crazy about breaking out the heat gun, but maybe plugging the board in and running it 4 a bit should loosen up the sh*t they applied on there.

Grrr:shakes:

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Originally Posted by Puttz

I'm trying to figure that one out myself, because next weekend everything is going water.

So, if anyone has any ideas as to the easiest way to remove them, the suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!! :up:

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Actually it is pretty hard, i has a ton of thermal paste and it is really sticky, i used a hair dryer at the point of almost burning my fingers then it came out. The bad part is you are really limited to twist the heatsink to help removing it, be careful because i bended the heatpipe that goes to the SB in the process.

I noticed a strange phenomenon when attempting to overclock my new ram today. My current settings are as follows.

FSB: 450
STRAP: 333
Clock Twister: STRONGER
PL 7
VNB 1.57v
VDimm 1.90v

The ram in question is OCZ 2x2gb Reaper 1800mhz. I was attempting to set my FSB to 460 to gain another 100mhz out of the CPU and another 40mhz out of the ram. My ram timings are set to stock 8-8-8-27-2N with the Trfc set to 72 My system has been totally stable. I have let prime95 run for as many as 5 hours amd also for at least 3 hours after tightening the Trfc from 88 to 72.

The rather high NB voltage is keeping me from wanting to push things much further, btu today, I set the FSB to 460, bumped the CPU Vcore a few clicks, and raised the VDimm to 1.94 to see if it would run 460. I also loosened the Clock twister form STRONGER to AUTO. I made it through 2 memtest passes without error, but I would get a rounding error in Prime95 after only 5 minutes. I am worried about adding any more voltage to the NB, so I realize that may be holding me back. Here is where I get to my point. \

When I run an Everest bandwidth and latency benchmark, no 2 runs are exactly the same, there is a small variance, which I assume is normal, but when I tested the bandwidth with the clock twister set to AUTO, the scores, on average seem better than the scores on STRONGER. The Read and Latency scores are the only ones to improve for sure, but the Write and Copy scores stayed the same. For the heck of it, I also tried STRONG, which I thought would perform about the same as AUTO, and it did.

I guess, I will leave the Clock Twister set to auto if it is still stable. I cant figure out why the scores would improve with the Clock Twister set to Auto or Strong as compared to Stronger. I am running Bios ver 0503. If the performance is better, I probably wont get to drop that NB voltage, which was one of the reasons I tried the Auto setting in the first place.

For the record, I also tried MODERATE, and that dropped the Read score 300-350mb/sec and killed the latency score.


Anyone seen this before?

Hi chaps

Just completed my new build (see sig) everything went really well except one thing, I bought a Creative XFI titanium and have popping/crackling issues!!!! I thought this would of been fixed by now ... its been ages since Vista was released :( anyone else got one of these on an Asus P5E3 prem and have it working correctly? Damn it ... I get the feeling i should of been pacient and waited for an XFI prelude ... any help appreciated

Thanks Telo & Metro

I have one question. Why did you leave XP and go to Vista? What can Vista do thats XP cant? Vista is a security hog. Bill Gates wanted to protect himself. Didn't care about you. Everything thing you do in Vista has to go though a security check first. That why its so slow. Heres a quote from Bill Veghte, Senior Vice President. Microsoft acknowledged that Windows Vista was not the easy Windows update customers had expected. In a letter posted on June 23, entitled "An Update on the Windows Road-map," Bill Veghte, Senior Vice President, On line Services & Windows Business Group wrote: "The architectural changes that improved security and resilience in Windows Vista led to compatibility issues with existing hardware and applications. Many hardware drivers and applications needed to be updated, and while the majority worked well when we launched Windows Vista, some key applications and drivers were not yet available. Since then, Microsoft and its industry partners have been hard at work to address compatibility issues and now the situation is fundamentally different." Good Luck people. I just bought two more XPs before they stop selling them.

Rant much? Ever hear of disabling that Vista feature? Besides, as everyone knows, when you take any Creative sound card vs. any OS, default blame goes to Creative. POS cards that they are. From what I have read, the PCIe bus has given Creative even more issues than they have already with the PCI bus in regards to the constant snap-crackle-pop they put out. However, most Creative fanbois blame Kellogg's. :D

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Actually it is pretty hard, i has a ton of thermal paste and it is really sticky, i used a hair dryer at the point of almost burning my fingers then it came out. The bad part is you are really limited to twist the heatsink to help removing it, be careful because i bended the heatpipe that goes to the SB in the process.

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Thanks for the response Metro.

I used to have a heat gun, I figured hammering the board with some stress tests for 2 hrs would loosen it up but nothing would budge. Yeah, I attempted to wiggle loose the NB and SB but it seemed like it did not want to budge. I even gave it a bit of a pry with a putty knife using whatever I had laying around for leverage. It didn't feel as if the gunk even got warm enough.

So I held myself back and decided not to mess with it anymore for now.

Not getting anywhere yet with an overclock on this board. :shakes: So that is the current issue, if the board decides to cooperate then I will attempt to remove the passive cooling again.

Uppdate on the BSOD\Reboot issue, Well first I tested running my CPU Stock with ram at 1333 6-6-5-16 1T @ 1,72v (Adata GTR) It did not help, then i tested other combos of voltage NB\CPU\Ram did not help either. So I tryed the only setting I had not played with before, Pci-e speed! I´m at 110mhz and not a sigel hickup for the last 12h! Mayby it was my HD 4850 al along? Will try some HOMM5\Test Drive later to!

I put my board in the freezer for an hour or so an the heatpipe came of with minmal force ;)

Ok i took the plunge with the auzentech xfi prelude ... hopefully this SC will work properly! xfi titanium RMA'd

Guys this is driving me nuts! I RMA'd the creative xfi titanium because of cracking and popping issues ... i enable the onboard sound and what do you know! I have SCP again ... As i test i removed nvidia drivers and the SCP has gone away!! WTF is going on :(

what a surprise ... nvidia drivers back on (new beta) and the SCP is back ...

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Uppdate on the BSOD\Reboot issue, Well first I tested running my CPU Stock with ram at 1333 6-6-5-16 1T @ 1,72v (Adata GTR) It did not help, then i tested other combos of voltage NB\CPU\Ram did not help either. So I tryed the only setting I had not played with before, Pci-e speed! I´m at 110mhz and not a sigel hickup for the last 12h! Mayby it was my HD 4850 al along? Will try some HOMM5\Test Drive later to!

I put my board in the freezer for an hour or so an the heatpipe came of with minmal force ;)

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Well all good things must come to an end, my comp black screend toaday. And refused to boot an hour ago :mad: Back to sqare one!

Bios 0503 makes no diff! im gona try upping pcie freq a tad

Tried all sorts of settings now with no luck! upped pcie freq, disabled acpi 2.0! im running out of options ... do you think moving my vid card to a diff pcie slot is a good idea?

Anyone noticed that load line calibration causes blue screens when enbled, I had alot of blue screens etc, turned it off and uped the volts to counter the vdrop, its been rock solid now.

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Anyone noticed that load line calibration causes blue screens when enbled, I had alot of blue screens etc, turned it off and uped the volts to counter the vdrop, its been rock solid now.

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Yup ... setting LLC to normal is disabled = intel specs

On another note i changed my vid card to the bottom pcie 16x slot and the popping/cracking sounds seem to have gone .... so strange

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Uppdate on the BSOD\Reboot issue, Well first I tested running my CPU Stock with ram at 1333 6-6-5-16 1T @ 1,72v (Adata GTR) It did not help, then i tested other combos of voltage NB\CPU\Ram did not help either. So I tryed the only setting I had not played with before, Pci-e speed! I´m at 110mhz and not a sigel hickup for the last 12h! Mayby it was my HD 4850 al along? Will try some HOMM5\Test Drive later to!

I put my board in the freezer for an hour or so an the heatpipe came of with minmal force ;)

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Does the freezer trick really work?

I hate the thought of a heat gun, heard to many stories of chips coming off too.

Everything goes water this weekend, so one way or the other is gotta com off....:up:

Thanks

I really am close to smashing this pc up lol! I had issues with sound popping and cracking, So i Rma'd the xfi titanium thinking it was the old creative+vista issue and got a refund, much to my dissapointment I had the same cracking and popping using the onboard sound, so as a test i removed video card drivers, after a reboot the sound was then fine but obviously i had no video capability!!!! so I removed the video card and moved it to the other 16x slot installed the drivers and everthing was fine ... no popping or cracking, well today my new SC turnt up, so I disabled the onboard sound again and fitted the xfi prelude, problem is no matter what pci slot I put the card in it causes the video card to play up, everything seems fine untill I get just before the welcome screen, all of a sudden the GTX280 green LED turns red and i get a No signal message on my lcd ... remove the SC and everything boots fine ... please please somebody help :(

sxs112 has posted a beta BIOS 0505... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...169543&page=13 . I havent tried it yet - later tonight.

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I really am close to smashing this pc up lol! I had issues with sound popping and cracking, So i Rma'd the xfi titanium thinking it was the old creative+vista issue and got a refund, much to my dissapointment I had the same cracking and popping using the onboard sound, so as a test i removed video card drivers, after a reboot the sound was then fine but obviously i had no video capability!!!! so I removed the video card and moved it to the other 16x slot installed the drivers and everthing was fine ... no popping or cracking, well today my new SC turnt up, so I disabled the onboard sound again and fitted the xfi prelude, problem is no matter what pci slot I put the card in it causes the video card to play up, everything seems fine untill I get just before the welcome screen, all of a sudden the GTX280 green LED turns red and i get a No signal message on my lcd ... remove the SC and everything boots fine ... please please somebody help :(

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Take it from someone that had the board, it is not an easy OC'ing board. If it is giving you so much aggrevation, just switch it out [if you can return it].

How does your BlackOps do, Telo, comapred to this board?

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How does your BlackOps do, Telo, comapred to this board?

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It's like night and day man. BIOS updates come out on the regular [we are up to revision G28, I think it was revision G17 when I got it about a month ago].

Good to hear -- and it''s easy to OC?

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Anyone noticed that load line calibration causes blue screens when enbled, I had alot of blue screens etc, turned it off and uped the volts to counter the vdrop, its been rock solid now.

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Please. friend lockeh, share with us your exact settings (especially memory and voltage).

THANK YOU SO MUCH :)