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Originally Posted by knopflerbruce
I think you need to qualify that a bit. I doubt very much if benchers use 2v on 45nm for hours and hours. Quite possibly an hour on ln2, but that's not your typical bencher. There's what, maybe 5 or 10 people in the entire world that bench with ln.
I have a 22 yr old Toshiba 8Mhz 68000 chip, running 32Mhz for the duration with a slight overvolt to 5.5V and a custom heatsink.... fastest 68000 based Atari ever :ROTF: :clap: :welcome:
3.5Ghz at 1.5V is poop. That's why.Quote:
Originally Posted by ownage
Integrated Memory Controller is your:up: and :down: ;)
Just got mine in today. I hope it works better under cold than my B2's all did.
lol @ worrying about electromigration...
OH NOES my cpu is only going to last 15 years instead of 20 D:
That unreferenced wiki article certainly elucidates it nicely as well.
i think its 6 phase, its a quality board with many bios settingsQuote:
Originally Posted by GenTarkin
did anyone notice in AMD Overdrive that voltage on vcore is kinda wrong on diffrent tabs?
setting in clock/voltage tab, have set it to 1.35v
http://img.techpowerup.org/080410/Capture001288.jpg
System Status says 1.35v
http://img.techpowerup.org/080410/Capture004733.jpg
but voltage and temperatur says 1.41v
http://img.techpowerup.org/080410/Capture005.jpg
wreid, amd needs to fix this ^^
and add a minimize to tray option, and ATI overdrive support for RV670 :P fix that IGP does discrete cards to meybe change it to Radeon :P
comparing against an intel yes, but the build process is very different on both CPU's and the architecture is also very different with the Phenom not lending its self to massive OC's like Intels process does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon Trooper
Also default voltage is 1.3V on my CPU, a 0.2V increase gets me near 1000MHZ OC stable...thats not that bad you know ;)
Good Morning Tony:)
I have a question for you Regarding my 9850 BE with OCZ 2X2gb Reapers HPC:yepp:
This is the first time I have ever run 4gb of Ram is there anything that I should know in advance with Running 4gb Ram with Phenom on the DFI 790FX of important do's and don'ts when overclocking , Bios Set up and especially Installing Windows?
Thank you Tony;)
you have to set manual 1066 mode, set timings to 5-6-6-24-26 TRFC 195 rest auto. Voltage 2V
reboot
Now go back and the timing option should have increased, IE TRC to 41 etc...now run some memtest to make sure its all stable.
Is there a Issue installing Vista with 4gb Ram Still?
not for me :)
no whit sp1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
Well I bought Vista Home Premium OEM so it does not have SP1 Incorporated into it.
Please advise>>>>>>>>>>>;)
Check around, this has been covered many times -> 1.35 is VID, system status shows VID, voltage/temperature shows voltage, and both are correct. You've moved the CPU VID up which automatically moves voltage up.Quote:
Originally Posted by wiak
Voltage is 1.41V there, AOD main page is still reading the old voltage at a lower VID instead of the new VID and voltage. You have CPU 1.35VID/1.41V [set] and 1.375VID IMC. Something is buggy with your sliders though - just check EVEREST/HWMon voltage, should be close to real ;)
not for me :PQuote:
Originally Posted by LIKMARK
and btw vista 64-bit ftw :D
Installed Vista 64bit on my Phenom with 4gigs of OCZ Reaper with no problems. Yay for a 64bit Media Center!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
guys, going on a little tangent here, but hope you can help....
I am in a quandry about which board to get for phenom for my upgrade....
Its between the gigabyte 790FX-DS5 and the DFI LP DK 790FX-M2RS
which board would hold better to overclocking and also which board is more flexible with what RAM you use with it.
Also, those screen shots earlier in this thread on the gigabyte board, with HWmonitor...showing the amps and wattages on the rails....is that a gigabyte board only and does the DS5 feature this?
Ive also read through this thread, that the DFI bios is more of a pain in the butt to fine tweak because its really buggy sometimes...and all the C1 issues Im reading about...does the DS5 have this much trouble?
Thanks guys for your help =)
@ Tony
Thanks fore putting in the efford regarding to the 9850BE.:)
I'm still waiting for the 45nm phenom series. My current cpu will do fine.
I'm upgrading my memory first.
Can you tell me what the differences are between the reaper and the platinum 1066 2x2GB kits besides the look.
Are the techincal the same?
I want to now because my HUMONGOUS IFX-14 is blocking the first 2 dimm slots due to height. I've got only 40mm of space between the top of the dimm slot to the base of the cooler.
thx
Well I'm partial to DFI for many reasons but one of the biggest is that there is a removable/replaceable PLCC Bios Chip which is just more sensible for people like us who Flash bios like a Olympic Sport and if anything goes wrong you can just get another Bios Chip vs having to send in your entire motherboard to Gigabyte and wait 2+ weeks to get it back:yepp:
Also DFI is a better made product and usually in general overclocks the best and DFI support is much better then others by far!
I like DFI. Their tech answered me last night after only a few minutes about my C1 problems. Sadly I didn't check regular e-mail until today. But yeah... I second Brother Esau's opinion. Although I chose the M2R board because it has better audio, better cooling, a POST LED, and I think it has better power supply regulation. And a removeable BIOS chip to boot. (Bad pun alert.)Quote:
Originally Posted by GenTarkin
(Although I've had gigabyte in the past. They are good also. But I wanted the ALC885 onboard sound so I don't need X-Fi. The ALC is compatible with FreeBSD. Creative isn't even compatible with creative.)
It sounds like most 790FX boards have some issues. I suspect that the "dreaded C1" problem comes up with the DFI more often because the M2R has an LED that shows POST codes... so people actually SEE a C1 code. So someone with another motherboard probably wouldn't call it a C1 error. They'd just call it a boot problem.
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Originally Posted by Brother Esau
I always have to remove memory to install. Both 32 and 64 versions. I did "slipstream SP1" onto a few disks while waiting for my stuff.. but haven't had a chance to try try them with 4Gb yet. :brick: :brick:
But theoretically a slipstreamed Vista+Sp1 disk should work. (You can easily slipstream with vLite at http://www.vlite.net/)
btw what happened to gigabytes dual bios technology? i had a gigabyte board for my oced pIII in the good old days before moving to amd and it had two bioschips and replaceable as well...
only mb i owned with a soldered bioschip was a crappy elitegroup...
I'm partial to DFI too but thats more because i love the tweakability which is groundbreaking... since i had the first nF3 Ultra-D i never had another mb brand...
another pro is the ez-switch technology which enables you to reset bios without opening the case... and on the other hand operate the board without any case.. and of course that beloved CMOS reloaded :up: :up: :up:
Quote:
Originally Posted by [B
D.F.I inc is the Best:up: Fanboy? Whatever!!!!:ROTF: Thats right I said it! I am loyal to products and companies that treat their customers the right way and make exceptional products:up:
url to tool i can check ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by GenTarkin
i think amps and stuff is by using gigabyte odin gt that allows psu monitoring
i dont think any mb can monitor amps atm
yeah service of course.. just write to dfi and they'll send you whatever a chipset cooler, an i/o-panel.. all at no charge..
Anyone else had a success yet? Something like 3.2GHz+ air? Also what's the consensus on the best motherboard for clocking/tweaking? (Features, layout, etc. not a consideration)
Except for BIOS. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
But to give them credit, as you said earlier, they probably had written off AMD. (And every 790FX board has similar issues.)
PICTURE THIS: There's like one guy working above a smoke shop in Bangladesh working on updating the AMD bios. (He's in India because the the Taiwan and Korean manufactururers found it "cost effective" to outsource.)
He got a call this week: "Remember all the Phenom fixes you were doing? WHEN CAN WE HAVE THEM."
(EDIT: I'll bet that DFI and other companies have their "first string" working on patches for the 790FX BIOS at this moment.)
thanks guys for all your responses....I guess my next question is, just comparing the M2RS directly to the DS5....I love DFI, I have their DFI UT LP Expert right now....what an awesome board.
I know the M2R is the highest quality you can get right now, I dont have money for a 250$ board LOL....is the M2RS good?
I dont care about audio as I have a sound card, and dont care about IO performance as I use a PCIE SCSI RAID card.
So, that being said....I know you would all choose the M2R above the DS5 anyday, but...M2RS vs DS5....which you think is better quality? still the M2RS?
IF so...can I get an answer on memory compatability? I keep reading that DFI's really picky...I dont care about OC'in the memory much, so if I get say just a basic set of G.skill PC6400 for it or something...will it work fine? Will I be able to OC the CPU still with that memory?
Thanks very much....
Not true at all DFI has always had the Best Bios bar none! This situation as said is source Code related from AMD /AWARD and I have had quite a few DFI Boards and never seen this kind of thing coming from Oskar Wu's Bios Team not ever:(Quote:
Originally Posted by keithlm
I've not seen anyone with a 9850 in that DFI or that DS5 posted many details yet so can't say. Look to their notes and findings whomever they be. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GenTarkin
Can you give reference where?Quote:
Also, those screen shots earlier in this thread on the gigabyte board, with HWmonitor...showing the amps and wattages on the rails....is that a gigabyte board only and does the DS5 feature this?
That isn't a board feature AFAIK but of the GBT Odin GT PSU only.
One major point is, the DS5 doesn't have as much RAM and RAM related problems as the DFI boards though and is far more stable on a day to day basis. The DFI has some major BIOS problems too, most others boards don't ATM. I played with the DS5 long ago when it first released and even the first BIOSes were quite excellent and stable.
hehe dude that depends on where you live, if in europe you might have to pay shipping heheQuote:
Originally Posted by Oese
You know I've been asking myself the same question for a few weeks now:Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
Which 790fx board to get? Then I thought why not ask AMD?;)
Guess what there are only 2 790fx boards that AMD "recommends"
1.Asus m3a MVP and MSI K9a2:)
Tony any action on this or word from DFI. It's an aggravating bug.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
gigabyte 790FX DS5 is excellent :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by SocketMan
Where did everyone go?
Am all alone here
:with:
I was always a little afraid of the gigabyte boards because of memory issues. I guess they have gotten better.Quote:
Originally Posted by wiak
My M2RS is a really nice board that changes price on newegg daily.
I love the board but I have found these issues so far:
1)AOD does not work with a X2 and volts. Don't care but it would be nice if the utility AMD marketed for the chipset worked. Damn just like ntune.
2)The North Bridge is hot. My advice is rip it off as soon as you get the board, rice grain paste and add a fan. That will reduce temps 20c.
3)When the board is first started if you try and get into bios it will often hang with a small blue line across the bottom.
If I could get back in time...Quote:
Originally Posted by SocketMan
1st-ASUS M3A32-MVP (just because bios eeprom chip can be removed)
2nd-MSI K9A2 Plat. (Priceless)
3rd-To be released... :D
no, there are some very nice and friendly dfi-folks right next door in the nederlands :DQuote:
Originally Posted by wiak
@Undersea...
Thanks for the info man =) yes I love DFI and I want to stay with them....do you know by any chance...if AOD works with phenom and M2RS?
How often does it hang with blue line on bottom of screen? Do, I just not try to go into BIOS on first POST? will that bug go away after that? Or will it be there anytime I power up the board and try to get into BIOS on first POST?
Guys do you know if the M2RS power regulation is strong enough to OC the 9850??? looked at DFI's cpu support list and they dont have B3's listed yet =/ as official support on the M2RS...
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Originally Posted by pablo NZ
"OH NOES my cpu is only going to last 15 years instead of 20 D:"
thats a riot,but true,lol:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by GenTarkin
No I have to wait for a phenom. Sorry on that one but on the 2/15 bios notes it mentioned fixing volts for AOD maybe that was for a phenom.
Point 2, yes. it has to cycle once before entering bios from a cold start. Most times.
Point 3, I'm guessing but yes. its all hidden under the heatsinks.
http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data...02/DFI_cpu.jpg
A little reading:
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...?cid=6&id=2502
which are monstrous :eek:
phenom 9850 Black editon @ 2.7ghz, not overclocked 3870 ^^
http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=14
Thats a pretty good benchmark there. If you ran clock for clock (oc the 9850) i bet it would beat the 8400Quote:
Originally Posted by wiak
Only problem is the 8400/e3110s are already cheaper than 9850's and much more readily available
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...31&postcount=1
User review Penryn vs Phenom
Phenom slightly ahead in the game benchmarks. Interesting to see better min FPS in Crysis by the Phenom.
Are the Temps reported on these Phenom 9850 BE rev B3 accurate?
I have gotten my CPU today and have it at stock right now @1.24v and I am getting 65c with OCCT running:confused: is that right or is the software and Bios reading this thing wrong because its a new Revision?
I have the stock AMD Heatsink on as I had to break my Rig down completely to install the New OCZ Reaper 2x2gb but damn thats hot! Considering with my 9600 BE I was 34c Under Load in Prime with my Tuniq Tower whats up with the temps on this thing even with stock AMD Heatsink?
Thake a look on DFI thread, last page, my first post ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
307 Bios give me 1.310v as Default :confused:
I know what it gives at default but I said too that I have set vcore @1.24v
It's all there m8, 1.24 @2500 LOAD, @2800 & 3000. I had read your edit: yep seems normal, my temps are higher also, they revised temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
9850BE is 1.3 default for CPUVID and NBVID.....Only B2's use 1.25vid i thought..
even though 9850 specs are 1.20/1.25/1.30v.....It should always boot to 1.3v if set to auto on any Mobo..
I could be wrong , but thats what ive been seeing/reading...
What ever the NBVID is set ,the CPU should be the same or Higher,but not below NBvid.
Thanks. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by gOtVoltage
Can some more people chime in on the Temp situation with their 9850's please?
Hey man, ill post my temps later tonight... maybe early morning when i get home. im not even completely sure what to expect with compatibility with my mobo yet since i havent seen anyone else with a 9850 and the M2RS... we'll see =)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
I would post my temps but they equal on load what you guys have as idle ;)
3.4GHZ today i was idling at 20C and 43c load
what ambient temps
Uh hey I disabled Sam2008 TLB Fix and although this is B3 Stepping I still get 200-500 with the TLB Patch Enabled:shrug: Is there anyone that can confirm that this is happening to them as well? Is that normal? Ishould not think so considering it is a Phenom B3:confused:
Winrar bench??Quote:
Uh hey I disabled Sam2008 TLB Fix and although this is B3 Stepping I still get 200-500 with the TLB Patch Enabled
Quote:
Originally Posted by aGeoM
Yes Winrar Bench
1.3V is used as the default on the DFI M2R here too. The GBT780G mobo chooses 1.25V as default but that board seems to handle voltages different. With higher multis i had up to 1.44V usage shown in CPU-Z load whene it was 1.28V in idle and 1.25V in the bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by gOtVoltage
NBVID can be higher than CPUVID had my BE9600 running at 500MHz with 0.7V while the NB was at 1.8GHz at ~1.05V. Why do you not recommend lower CPU VID's than NB VID's? Have there been issues?
There's something wrong with your board DFI based BIOSes in pretty much everything including temps. You can see it in justaposts' ss of different BIOSes :p:
CPU diode which EVEREST/BIOS can read will never (plus zero) be higher than CPU core temps. Usually there's a -10C difference for it. Look at mine for instance or of those on other boards unless they've screwed the readings up by adding offsets.
65C load... that's high, but that's what stock cooler gets at 30C heatsink ambients, 45min load and no TIM.
But I get confused because of the lack of details you guys give when you ask qs :shrug:
In Manchester where Tony is, they won't be much different than 15-25C at most.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
You have TLB-Caching enabled in the bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
MSI and DFI have not disabled TLB from bios with B3, you still have to apply a fix. I have reported this to DFI and to AMD, we wait for a fix.
Being real honest the DFI bios has many issues, i have a few end users now suffering from the flashing cursor issues, tRFC non detect etc so we wait on a fix.
The board with the lowest amount of issues (without testing the asus yet) is the Gigabyte DQ6, it just needs separate NB VID and it would be awesome.
The MSI is clocking good on the latest 1.4 Bios apart from the TLB annoyance.
Ambient water temp is between 8 and 14C dependent on how cold it is out side on my water loop.
I get >2100MB/s with winrar on the DFI if i enable TLB-Caching in the bios (means disable the fix which turns caching off).Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Tony that is an vista sp1 issue i guess.
BIOS P0J doesn't apply the TLB fix by default for MSI Plat. Tony ;)
Official releases 1.3-1.4 do but the official ones are quite poor for oc but better in stability/compatibility.
EDIT: yeah look to your OS
No, sadly, most 700 series boards don't share the DFI's problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by keithlm
The MSI does have the C1 but only I've had it, and I know why and when to avoid it - unlike with DFI 790FX where its a guessing game leading inevitably to RMA.
Hey Brother, i set my Phenom down closer to where you have yours and ran OCCT for awhile to get my temps up... i seem to max out at about 48C. anything else you want man?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
You sure temps are correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by GunterFalstaff
BTW is that 2*2gb dominators or 4*1gb in your sig, and how do they oc with phenom?
any comment plzQuote:
Originally Posted by Koekerwauz_NL
well, those temps were the same that HWmonitor read as well as Everest, my temperature sensor is also reading roughly 3 degrees celcius below what these programs are reading (its always a little lower) so im quite sure its right. why?Quote:
Originally Posted by LIKMARK
and im using 4x1, i havent done much tweaking with the system since i put the phenom in as i installed the phenom about an hour ago... heh
WEll, you guys are having some decent fun with your Phenoms!
mine still won't post on a 14 or higher multi! no matter how cool it is.. God damn. I'm running out of possibilities.
Running under water?Quote:
Originally Posted by GunterFalstaff
My Phenom @2,5GHz and 1,3v is under water with load temps of 57c. Read by Abit EQ and in bios. Hwmon + everest reads 30+c and AOD reads 25c..
Quite a lot of different temps. But I'm thinking the first one is the closest one.
That's why :)
Let me know how your dominators do. I've ordered the 2*2gbs. (and I know they use different kinds of ic of course)
OK now this may add clutter, but heres what i posted in another thread about what ive done with my phenom... wasnt much, but it helped.... im also using air cooling with an Asus Arctic Square (works very well =) and arctic silver 5)Quote:
Originally Posted by LIKMARK
now... i would deffinately recommend the dominators, before i got my phenom i had them running at 1000mhz at 4-4-4-12 @ 2.2v with my 6400 BE. i have yet to push them with my phenom tho. but i will in time =)Quote:
Originally Posted by GunterFalstaff
Ahh I see :D Maybe I have to lap mine too :)
heh, lapping only really makes maybe 2-5 degrees of difference... its not gunna make your 57 degrees drop to 47 degrees load like, say, mine. odd that your W/C is that high. whats your idle temps? im sitting around 29-31 when at a 3.0ghz OC
I don't run SP1 on vista, so its not the OS
Boot open AOD, its yellow, bench, take scores, open AOD, set red, bench see increase
Simple way of testing me thinks
Go to bios, set enabled, go to vista..AOD yellow.>
Go to bios, set disabled, go to vista, AOD yellow
DFI
What am I doing wrong here?
Send me the bios pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by KTE
What bios version are you using? Have you checked the msr registers c0010015 and c0011023 with crystal cpu's msr editor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Idle at about 40c @1,30vcore.Quote:
Originally Posted by GunterFalstaff
Maybe I need a reseating of the block..
Official 1.4 on the MSI and 331 on the DFIQuote:
Originally Posted by justapost
I have not checked with Crystal CPU yet..benching winrar on the MSI at this time.
possibly... im at 3.0ghz with 1.34v core, i know my lap didn't do THAT much...Quote:
Originally Posted by LIKMARK
this is from the dfi thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by GunterFalstaff
Tried it on the DFI with 307. MSR registers show that TLB caching is enabled no matter what i set in the bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
http://www.abload.de/img/cpuid1gdf.jpghttp://www.abload.de/img/cpuid2mf1.jpg
At 2.8GHz CPU/2.2GHz NB mem at 533 settings auto i get these winrar results with aod in red or yellow mode, again no matter what tlb caching setting was used in the bios.
http://www.abload.de/thumb/winraroffmjf.jpghttp://www.abload.de/thumb/memsetoff378.jpg
Completely unoptimized memory timings here but ~2000MB/s vs. ~650MB/s in green mode.
I guess the bios does the right thing, ignores the bios settings with b3's and always enables tlb caching here.
DS5 to has little bugs toQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
:up:
stock speed, stockfan @ 2800rpm is around 49c idle, load temp is 53cQuote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
hopes this helps
guys if you set overdrive to RED button the TLB fix will be disabled, looks like overdrive and bios dosnt detect B3 as bugfree
and temps in everest on mine is kinda off buy a HUGE margin, i can soon frie a egg on this thing
http://img.techpowerup.org/080411/Capture010.jpg
Its looking like yellow or red on AOD is telling US top performance, green is most definitely bad.
I think we need an update on AOD, looks like im blaming the bios when its the tools not working right.
Weird thing is AOD reports red on the Gigabyte where MSI and DFI is yellow
Where can i find this bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
Thank you.
I read in an german forum that in red mode autoxpress features get enabled. The MSI has bios options for autoxpress with at least one bios but KTE could not verify that autoxpress is responsible for the performance increase in red mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
I also just ran winrar...in red mode 3.4ghz cpu, 2500mhz NB and 1000MHZ ram im hitting 1.700KB/s on the msi...nowhere near what you are getting there.Quote:
Originally Posted by justapost
Weirdness continues
am getting 1.411KB/s on 2.7ghz, nb 2000, ram 400 in red mode :banana3:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
That's Vista right. Sounds like you're running the patch to meQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
to compare: Xp 32bit with crap memsettings:
am on ungaged*Quote:
Originally Posted by LIKMARK
btw, bit-tech tested 9850 and got some nice scores to
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...9550_b3_cpus/1
and the wreidnessy still continues
It gets better:Quote:
Originally Posted by LIKMARK
Yellow mode winrar 1.7ishKB/s like you
Red mode Winrar 1.7Iish KB/s like you
Green winrar 367KB/s
So I can turn the patch on and off, vista is not the issue, something else is speeding up the DFI ;)
Now 3dmark 06 CPU 3.375GHZ, NB 2.5GHZ, ram 5-5-5-15 1000MHZ 4GB
CPU score:
Red 4704
Yellow 4580
Green 4229
Red wins
Cinebench:
Red scores lower than yellow by around 200 points, this is consistent also as I ran it a few times
All I can think of is:The Gigabyte has an option for Autoexpress in bios, the MSI and the DFI do not (as far as I know) BUT I have a feeling the DFI is enabling some tweaks quietly in bios we are not seeing.Quote:
I read in an german forum that in red mode autoxpress features get enabled
My DQ6 is reflashed and in a box winging its way back to me...we will retest this soon also ;)
there is much strangeness with these boards and AOD settings...much strangeness LOL
Edit: had an update which clears some things up.
Yellow mode is default for B3,when its yellow then TLB caching is enabled
If you boot and AOD is showing red then Autoexpress is enabled from bios ;)
If you enable Red in AOD you enable Autoexpress also.
So DFI have some tweaks that leave AOD yellow but speed things up...or their bios is masking what they are doing.
So we need manual settings in bios for Autoexpress now so we have a choice ;)
Did anyone notice that core4 is faster than any other core in Cinebench?
wreidQuote:
Originally Posted by massman
win2k 32bit 2.8/2.2 GHz 1.3125/1.27V Mem 5-5-5-16-11 2V ganged vs. unganged
http://www.abload.de/thumb/gangeditn.jpghttp://www.abload.de/thumb/ungangedczy.jpg
only a marginal difference here 2060 vs. 2100 NB/s.
win2k 32bit 3.0/2.4 GHz 1.4875/1.475V Mem 4-5-5-16-11 2.3V unganged (very hot and unstable setup)
http://www.abload.de/thumb/winrar3cse.jpg
Not really a big gain here ~110MB/s more (5%) considering the power the system requires.
@Tony: Thanks for verifying the autoxpress thing on the gbt board.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6215558
my lastest, phenom in red @ 2.7ghz ganged, 3870 @ 850/1250
Not really, Core1 was faster on the C2Q's as well :).Quote:
Originally Posted by wiak
Red/Yellow/Green seems to be influencing the memory bandwidth a lot.
Green: mem read=49xx, mem latency=100ns
Red: mem read=59xx, mem latency=65ns
//edit: need to update bios, switching to red fixes the TLB issue :)
sounds like that TLB still hunts amd since they fixed it :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by massman
Not sure ... I'm using and older bios (1.1) instead of the newest, which has an updated cpu support (1.4). Just read in another thread that only the latest version fixes the TLB issue ... :)
Here you go, flash with the correct parameters: http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.ph...376AMS.P0J.zipQuote:
Originally Posted by MonsterMash
Yeah, somethings wrong, YGPM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
The official 1.4 for MSI is bad because many users borked their MB/CPU when they left oc options in. Since then Performance releases are best, and they have AutoXpress in there.
Yeah, we verified a while ago that Red Mode = AutoXpress and it has better perf. for higher end cards especially.
Mine is actually a tad slower :DQuote:
Originally Posted by massman
Indeed. Yellow is a good balance [check power with Red ;)]Quote:
Originally Posted by massman
Yeah no kidding hey? Tony could you please make a suggestion to Oskar to get this darn AMD Overdrive working properly with the DFI Bios? 2.0.17 Is terrible and big issues with Software itself (not Bios) I have installed it twice once with 6400+ BE = NO GO 2 times with Phenom BE = NO GO and it shut my damn machine down just opening the stupid thing :rolleyes: just as a note Defaults were set in Bios when Installing and Opening Program:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
At the bare minimum I would like to see this thing functional on our board and coexist harmoniously without issues I mean just opening the program up from Day one with this board give random 'weirdness" and lock ups let alone trying to use the dam thing!:down: