I've set Vcore to 1.375V in the bios, and it reports 1.34~1.35v in Windows. Under torture test, it droops to 1.30v without LLC disabled.
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I've set Vcore to 1.375V in the bios, and it reports 1.34~1.35v in Windows. Under torture test, it droops to 1.30v without LLC disabled.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eurasianman
Lol I ment Engineering Sample :D
True, Anandtech article you mean.
I just bought this board and noticed the ram is in the white slots in your pic. I only have 2 gigs but have them in the blue does this matter? TIA:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by deepsilver
For some odd and strange reason, my QX9650 likes 400 * 9 with stock voltages. But for 333 * 11, it requires 1.35V. Right now, I'm only needing 1.28V (according to CPU-Z) for 400 * 9 stable. I left all other settings to Auto or to their "normal" voltage.
Think I got the same problem, will post all my bios settings tomorrow. Am so getting to bed right now :yawn2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eurasianman
I have no problem with LLC enabled and 8400. I'm using bios 401. Browsing along at 445x9 right now. Anyone not using the newest bios needs to try it.
Is 401 the latest bios?
403 is the latest BIOS and I'm using LoadLine Calibration (enabled). Set 1.30V in the BIOS and CPU-Z is reading 1.288V to 1.296V :up:
And no vDroop mod here! :D
U know, about 30% of the people experience no issue with LLC with the rampage formula.
I'm even thinking to get a p5e deluxe (bit cheaper but hard to find here) and flash it with the rampage bios.
FWIW...I have owned no less than 6 Asus boards with LLC and have never had an issue with any of them. I choose not to use LLC for 24/7 use but I will enable it when benching.
It appears the P5E Deluxe suffers the same problem. See my last post in the thread with the poll on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealTelstar
I replied on the other thread, is not the p5e dlx.
Anyone know why Asus started to go backwards with the BIOS updates for this motherboard?
0403 was the latest but now shows as a “beta” and 0308 is now the latest dated from 5/16?
ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA (Intel X48 chipset) BIOS 403
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 w/Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme
OCZ Titanium XTC 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB (RAID 0) - Vista Ultimate 64 Bit/SP1
2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB (RAID 0) – XP Pro/SP3
EVGA 8800 Ultra “Superclocked” (175.16 drivers)
Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty
SILVERSTONE OP1000 1000W
SILVERSTONE TJ09-B
I think that's just a misprint.This is what's listed on my pc.
Thanks,Quote:
Originally Posted by Warpcore
I noticed that the 0308 with a date of 5/16 was listed under the “latest” tab and the 0403 was listed as a “beta” with date of 5/14. It almost looked like Asus found something wrong with the 0403 and then put it in “beta” status.
ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA (Intel X48 chipset) BIOS 403
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 w/Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme
OCZ Titanium XTC 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB (RAID 0) - Vista Ultimate 64 Bit/SP1
2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB (RAID 0) – XP Pro/SP3
EVGA 8800 Ultra “Superclocked” (175.16 drivers)
Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty
SILVERSTONE OP1000 1000W
SILVERSTONE TJ09-B
Guys,
Just to check wif all the Rampage users here. Did u guys install Intel Matrix Storage thingy?
What i installed from the CD was the Intel Inf and Marvel driver...
I wonder if there's new drivers for the Intel chipset and Marvel LAN. The Asus EPU software is crap right? So i dun have to install them?
I never install drivers from accompanying CDs (except when storage is required for OS install).
Always go on company websites and get the latest.
Erm... does the performance increase if i install the Matrix Storage?
Are you guys using the fan for the heatpipes and what temps/volts do you have on the NB?
Quote:
Originally Posted by FrOzE
The latest Intel INF chipset drivers are the 9.0.0.1008, which are still not listed on Intel’s website.
The latest Intel Matrix Storage Manager Software is 8.2.0.1001 dated (6/2/08) -
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...4&submit=Go%21
The latest Marvell LAN driver is the 10.60.6.3 –
http://www.marvell.com/drivers/drive...o?driverId=175
is it good to install Intel Matrix?
The fan for the heatpipes is only necessary if you're using water. The temps for my NB and SB under load is 48C-49C for the NB and 44C for the SB. I replaced the TIM with Arctic Ceramique and it dropped my temps by 4C-6C for both :) As far as voltages. Right now, the NB is at 1.23V and the SB is at 1.05 and the SB2 is at 1.50V.Quote:
Originally Posted by kik
I don't think it'll hurt if you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrOzE
Another fan on the NB is instead quite useful :)
Anyone have luck/knowledge of using a QX6700 on this board, not having much luck over 3.4.
I'm not quite familiar with the Bios for the board yet.
If you use stock CPU cooler or similar, the air flow from the optional fan disturb the air flow from the CPU cooler and vice versa.Quote:
Originally Posted by kik
If you use a TRUE, Tuniq or similar cooler there is okey to use it, no air flow interference.
I did use it as it gave additional cooling and brought down the heat on my NB. I don´t remember how much lower it was.
I run my NB between 1,41 and 1,71, depending on how hard I push my memory and to get me the lowest possible tRD and right now I´m on water on my NB and it´s never above ~35C even if I push 1,71 throu it.
Wow got this board today. really really awesome baord, i cant say il ever go with any other brand ;)
i achieved this with little effort
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/2307/pieq4.jpg
Im sure i can go higher but i dont want to rape my NB yet
What you guys use to monitor NB temps in windows?
Rampage Formula Ftw!
Hi guys! i didn't have time to read the full thread, so i hope this hasn't already been posted.
Recently got my new system with a Rampage Formula up and running.
One of the first things i noticed was how hot the NB got, so i removed the heatsinks and applied some Arctic Ceramique. That didn't help much at all. But the heatsink also didn't feel warm at all. With the NB at over 60c (at stock voltage under load) the heatsink should atleast feel hot if the heat is transferred the way it should. But when i felt the base of the heatsink (that lighter copper color base plate) i burned my finger.
So apparently the heat wasn't transferred from that base plate to the heatsink and heatpipes.
So i removed the heatsink to have a closer look and this is pretty much what you'll see then: (This pic is from the Maximus Formula thread. Apparently it's much harder for them to remove the heatsink, but with the Rampage ASUS just used some of that silicon stuff they also use for the heatsinks at the power area)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...h_19d81b59.jpg
You can see the heatpipe and when you look from the side you can also see the heatpipe going to the SB. But i couldn't really see where it made contact with the baseplate and when you looked under the baseplate via the 'hole' from the middle heatpipe i didn't see where it made contact either. So i took a small screwdriver and popped that base plate right off. (it pretty much came off when i pushed the screwdriver between the base plate and the heatsink, i didn't even have to rotate or force it)
And here is what i saw (only have picture of the base plate, i got soo excited i put the heatsink back on the board without making a picture of it. :) )
Click for full screen
http://img109.mytextgraphics.com/pho...4aroqaq7a.jpeg
The red areas are the parts where the glue actually made contact with either the heatsink or the heatpipe. The part on the left made contact with the heatpipe going to the SB. The 'long' part in the middle is what made contact with the middle heatpipe (the part that made contact is just +/-1.5mm in width.) and the parts to the right made contact with the heatsink.
I think the total 'contact surface' was less then 1 square CM (for the metric people among us :D) AND that 'contact' was through some simple glue!!! :down: :mad:
Those edges surrounding the baseplate aren't a problem since the baseplate is larger then the NB heatspreader, so the NB will fit perfectly between those edges.
Now i used quite a bit of arctic ceramique to fill the space around the heatpipe and the heatsink and also put some arctic ceramique on the heatsink and NB to make sure there was enough on there to fill the gaps and i put the heatsink back on the mainboard.
Right away i could feel the heatsink getting MUCH warmer then before, but since i put quite a bit of thermal paste between the NB and heatsink i wanted the heatsink to get really toasty fso the paste could settle. So i put a piece of paper between the NB heatsink and the CPU cooler to prevent airflow from the CPU cooler to NB heatsink.
I increased the NB voltage and stressed it for a while. The NB temp didn't even go over 55c with the piece of paper preventing airflow and now the heatsink acctually felt really hot to the touch like it should. :up:
The end result, i went from 62C to 40C! while running Prime95 on 4 cores :shocked:
That sounds too good to be true, but considering the lack of contact which means the NB was hardly cooled, it makes sence :)
The only downside to this mod is that my SB gets hotter now. :) The heat from the NB chip is transferred via the heatpipe to the SB heatsink and that actually heats up the SB now! :D So it might be better to cut the heatpipe close to the NB heatsink so that no heat is transferred from the NB to the SB but the SB still has the surface of it's heatpipe to cool.
Something i wanna ask abt... the Intel Matrix Manager is for RAID HDD only? Or can i use it for normal setup?
Secondly, i would like to ask... if i were to do a RAID 0 for my HDD 1 & 2 (OS), can i still have secondary HDD non-raid (for Storage)? Everything on the mobo.....
The first. It's not needed for "ide" setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrOzE
Hey, just got the board the other day.
Few concerns... Say I were to alter a voltage setting in the bios then save and exit, I'm finding that it will turn off then start again but will hang on cpu init or en setup. If I turn the pc off and leave it for say 2-5 mins then try to boot its all fine and it runs at the voltage I set earlier fine.
Same thing happens if I try to clear cmos, I have to wait 2-5 mins before being able to boot.
Anyone else getting this?
Spec - E6600, OCZ Reaper HPC 4096Mb (2x2048Mb) PC2-8500, 8800gtx, 2x750gb samsung F1 Raid0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eurasianman
I'm using a Tuniq Tower and I noticed that I can't even fit the fan because of the cooler. I'm hitting 70c+ on the NB and I'm only using 1.35v. My ram (Corsair PC8500 2*2GB) can't run at the default speed, maybe it's because of the high temperatures?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostleader
Here's a pic of my setup: http://www.onionen.se/pub/kik/IMG_7249.JPG
Dodgey 2x 40mm fans together and cable tie them to the heatsink
Example on my board:
http://i30.tinypic.com/a2iwm.jpg
Did you read the post i posted a little earlier on this page? Might be helpfull for you. If your chipset if 70c and your NB heatsink is making good contact you should almost burn your fingers on the heatsink, if that is not the case you probably have the same problem i did. ASUS did a really crappy job mounting that base plate since a lot of people have NB temp problems. (without mods)Quote:
Originally Posted by kik
Yeah, I saw that post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abducted
I will try to re-seat the cooler if I have the time.
Just got this board set up on the test bed & as soon as power-up, I hit DEL to enter the set-up , then it runs all thru the post & at the end it says in bios that "USB overcurrent detected sys will shut down in 15 seconds . I removed all the cards ,drives,every thing i could think of & still get this message on POST . soo then i took out the VisionTek 3870OC & swapped it with my 3870 same brand still the same thing each time i was getting a RED LED on the board near the PCI slots took all the VID card off & it don't go RED LED but can't see anything due to NO CARD .... Now i Just moved the Vid card over to the other PCI 2.0 card slot & Boom I'm up & running
ANY i dea what's up ? should i RMA the MoBo ?
seems like that slot is Shot to Sh*t
Well it's not just re-seat, that had hardly any effect on my temps anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by kik
It's taking out the base plate that did the job for me. Of course, that probably voids the warranty, but it's the only way i could get my NB properly cooled with the stock cooler. So it should actually prolong my warranty :D
BigSlappy: it sure sounds like a bad mobo to me. Maybe you can try removing the board from the case and try running it outside the case. Maybe something is short circuiting inside the case. It's a long shot of course... :)
My Maximus Formula is made in Taiwan.Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
[QUOTE=Abducted
BigSlappy: it sure sounds like a bad mobo to me. Maybe you can try removing the board from the case and try running it outside the case. Maybe something is short circuiting inside the case. It's a long shot of course... :)[/QUOTE]
The MoBo is on a test bed thank God ! that would have been a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: trouble shooting every thing in a case !
Yeah every thing works with the Vid card on the #2 PCI slot but it was shorting out on the #1 slot the error said "over volting the USB" but i had disconnected all USB's & i was still getting a red led .. till i took the card out of that slot even did that with 2 different boards same thing , but place said cards in slot#2 BINGO up & running what i did was load the O/S & set-up my raid0 hhd's , upgraded the ATI software, loaded the Intel drivers off the cd & the CPU runs FAST 3.2 stock ! temps were fine as the CPU was water cooled & i had a fan in the CPU / Fan outlet soo that was not a problem .. Even the Poster works great ! but I'm gonna RMA the board back to Asus buy another in the mean time & just build another sys with the RMA & sell that system or just sell my P5E & keep both Rampage Formula's
the board is really nice with all the on board LED's And the BIOS looks very Cool lots of options
I'm sure one of the others posted a solution, but I just wanted to vouch as well that I ended up replacing the thermal material that was used on the NB and SB and my temps dropped about 5C (this is considering under load). I'm not sure what the idle temps are since my computer is never idle (F@H SMP FTW!).Quote:
Originally Posted by kik
By the way, compressed air is your friend. Looks like you could use some nice dusting ;)
Nice to know a solution but I don't think I will rip everything out of my case just to do that. It's pretty full now as you saw on the picture. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eurasianman
And fyi, the dust is gone now. ;)
My Maximus Formula SE died last week; no boot at all. I could not find another Maximus, so (reluctantly) replaced it with a Rampage Formula. I really expected to have to start over from scratch. I first booted into safe mode, then rebooted straight into Vista without so much as a hiccup. :up: Currently running at stock speeds, OC is coming.
Maximus is RMA to Asus. It will be interesting to see what comes back.
Max 3d and 32m fsb stable with this motherboard (585x8) ;)
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7404/87237006mz8.jpg
and..... 600fsb spi1m benchable :D
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/8789/600xg6.jpg
max i could achive was ~610 but i don't have the cpu-z validation :(
Northbridge on air (~50C) and cpu on watercooling :)
I cant' wait to freeze this baby.. I love this board :up:
WOOT! got my MoBo from NewEgg today, this one booted right up>>> NO problemO>>> runs Nice !
Got a newer Verision board also !
DDb Woot !
... the 1st MoBo is Gonna hit the Asus RMA bin as soon as I get the RMA # from them ....
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigslappy
What u mean by newer version?
setlios that is pretty awesome, im sure my mobo can do that aswel.
wanted to know, what where your settings please?
like NB volts
gtl NB
gtl Cpu
and all the settings you found important :)
and where did you get taht vers. of setfsb, i cant seem to find it
tHANKS
@ _Stelios_
which memory timings and performance level you had @ 600FSB SuperPi 1M?
These are the main voltage settings used:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi2
vNB 1.8
vpll 1.6
vfsb 1.5
vsb 1.13
cpu gtl x0.67
nb gtl x0.67
setfsb :shrug: It was inside my benching folder :p:
5-5-5-15 and if I remember right PL was 10Quote:
Originally Posted by Chri$ch
I just received my board yesterday, i took down the radiator from NB and SB and changed the thermal but i made a little mistake, check the picture and please tell me if you believe i damage the board, tonight im gonna try to install the board.
http://www.myrmidoni.com/_upload_/DSC00509.jpg
http://www.myrmidoni.com/_upload_/DSC00518.jpg
Hopefully it will be fine - why not use your finger to push the pins out?
I tried but didnt work, stupid me!:(Quote:
Originally Posted by scottath
Anybody can suggest me some voltage setting for 450 fsb with Q9450 on Rampage Formula?
DaLiu, you may try these if the board still works, i can see some damaged lines over there.. You should try it anw.. :shrug:
vNB 1.4
vpll 1.54
vfsb 1.2
vsb 1.05
cpu gtl x0.67
nb gtl x0.67
reading off each of the boards data strip ;Quote:
Originally Posted by DaLiu
old bad MoBo = 000-C838679-00483-80-MIB350-802-0219
NEW MoBO = 000-C848DKJ-00952-80-MIB350-803-0308
SOO This is a newer verision than the DEAD MoBo
This will be interesting to see what they send back to replace the old bad MoBo
== also on the old MoBo = the Q connectors some of the outputs didn't function ,I can add that to also the #1 PCI slot shorted out
Quote:
Originally Posted by _Stelios_
I just recently bought this board along with a Q9450 and TRUE. Have not ventured into overclocking yet. My temps with RealTemp at idle are 29/29/29/32 and at full are 39/39/39/42. I have not calibrated RealTemp yet, but do these sound ok?
Regarding the voltage settings above, what does cpu gtl x0.67 and nb gtl x0.67 do exactly? This is my first Intel based board in a long time, so I'm still learning. The cpu voltage is not shown in the above, is that correct?
Where do you read this line? And what's the revision of new mobo - still 1.00G?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigslappy
Thx
Those are the bioses the boards shipped with.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigslappy
this is the strip of data #'s right at the Floppy drive plug in on the MoBo just to left of of the ATX power input the old MoBo was made in Taiwan & new MoBo made in China all part#'s on the outside of box are the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by DEFLORATOR
the New board Runs great ! i love this board .. i can't wait till the other board gets back to me hopefully I get another new version also
yes that's a given on the bios in the #'s but the #'s in front of that shows the newer versionQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
My board is working, i just plagged everything and start from first button. I need to reinstall the windows because my XP is a mess, i just unistalled all old 680i drivers from nvidia and installed Intel(R) Chipset Device Software 9.0.0.1008 but is a problem when i try to install Intel(R) Matrix Storage Manager 8.2.0.1001, some error that my computer doesnt meet the requirement, any idea why this errror show up, can be because i disable JMicron PATA Controller in BIOS, im using all my devices on SATA, 2 HDD and 2 DVD. Is my first board with Intel chipset so any recommandation will be good. Thank you guys!
speaking of reinstalling windows, anybody with older intel chipset did reinstall or just plug and pray? :)
The SATA controller needs to be set to either AHCI or RAID for IMSM to install.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaLiu
No it's not a newer version. That is just production information used to identify the board while in the factory. The only thing that indicates the version of the board is the reading which says 1.00G.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigslappy
Can you tell me please your temps for NB in full load, lets say stress with Orthos?
How did u setup this options in BIOS:
CPU Spread Spectrum
PCIE Spread Spectrum
DRAM Static Read Control
AI Clock Twister
AI Transaction Booster
Last thing, please recommand me how to stress my CPU, looks like with Orthos i need to start 4 times the program.
Edit later: Looks like with 4 Orthos is not working, some warning message: WARNING: Affinity Mask: Process: 0x2 Sys: 0xF, but i get the same warning if i use only 2 Orthos with affinity set it on 2 cores. So i need some advice how to stress my CPU?
There is a program called MCHTemp which can measure temp of Intel's NB
http://cp.people.overclockers.ru/cgi...MCHTemp101.zip
Intel MCH chips do have internal digital temp sensor which can measure temp beginning from 50 C. Anything less than 50 is not shown in the program. The program really worked for me on P5k Premium (P35). On RF i saw temp over 50 C only once.
If the temp can only be measured starting from 50C, then why have I seen it below 30 in the BIOS? I am on water btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEFLORATOR
What shows bios (and other programs like everest, etc) is received through sensor which resides NOT in the silicon but somewhere on the PCB. MCHTemp gets its data from the digital sensor of the chip (the way Core Temp gets data from digital sensor located in CPU). MCHTemp reads temp directly from chipset. According to author (and intel documentation he refers to) this chipset DTS work only starting from 50C.
Supported chipsets: P35, P31, G33, G31, Q35, Q33, X38. X48 seems to be supported for me. The temp measurement is very accurate, as soon as i increase vNB or switch off fan temp MCH increases.
Hi,
I have some questions on this board:
1- can I use the black Pcie x1 (PCIEX1_1 on the manual) with all pcie x1 cards or it can be used only with the supreme FX Audio card?
2- are the PCIEX1_1 and the slot PCI1 too near at ram slot?
Regards
Ugo
I got random BSOD running Prime95, everything looks just perfect for 40 min and after that just a fast BSOD. I tried all kind of settings, doesnt work for me to overclock this CPU, anybody please can help me with some good settings to overclock a Q9450 to 3200 Mhz (400 x 8) or to 3600 Mhz (450 x 8). Thank you!
Hello all !
I actually need some :help: for o/cing the Rampage Formula.
I'm nearly getting MAD about this mobo, for the following reason :
- I have random "DET RAM" at startup for every o/c i've tried
My specs :
- Rampage Formula (BIOS 308)
- Intel Q9300
- 2 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix PC8500 (BL12864AA.16FD5)
- Corsair HX 520 PSU
- 8800 GTS 512
No matter what parameters (even for softs o/cings) I set, as soon as its not stock settings, I can have a random DET RAM at startup (cold boot or reboot).
I've even tried the cpu level up and Super Mem Profile (which apply an auto o/c based on your specs), its all the same (random DET RAM).
The thing is that - @ stock FSB, with stock strap (here being respectively 333Mhz and 333) - , I can run the memory at 667/800/1066 using the appropriate dividers without any DET RAM (this means the memory's not faulty), but as soon as I raise up the FSB..............a DET RAM can occured at startup.
Example of an o/c profile that is 100% stable (hours of prime etc...) but that leads to random det ram at startup :
Any help appreciated :wave:Code:- Ai overclock tuner : manual
- CPU ratio setting : 7.5
- FSB frequency : 400
- FSB strap to North bridge : 400
- PCIE frequency : 100
- DRAM frequency : 800
- DRAM comand rate : 2T
- DRAM timing control : manual
- CAS latency : 5
- RAS to CAS delay : 5
- RAS precharge : 5
- RAS active time : 15
- RAS to RAS delay : auto
- Row refrsh cycle time : auto
- Write recovery time : auto
- Read to precharge time : auto
- Read to write delay (S/D) : auto
- Write to read delay (S) : auto
- Write to read delay (D) : auto
- Read to read delay (S) : auto
- Read to read dealy (D) : auto
- Write to write delay (S) : auto
- Write to wrtie delay (D) : auto
- DRAM Static read control : disabled
- Ai clock twister : lighter
+ Tansaction booster : manual
- Performance Level : 12
- CPU Voltage : 1.25v
- CPU PLL voltage : auto
- North bridge voltage : 1.25v
- DRAM voltage : 1.8v
- FSB termination voltage : auto
- South Bridge voltage : auto
- Loadline calibration : disabled
- CPU GTL reference : auto
- North bridge GTL reference : auto
- SB 1.5 voltage : 1.5v
- CPU spread spectrum : disabled
- PCIE spread spectrum : disabled
They make this in English? I managed to install it on my Premium but all I saw was < 70Quote:
Originally Posted by DEFLORATOR
E8500/QX9770 + cascade benching here with all the settings provided. (text in Finnish, but ain't that important :D)
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2606/01thumbwt9.png
I have one big problem regarding overclocking and prime95. I tried all kind of setting to reach fsb 400, 425 or 450 but everytime when i stress with prime95 on BLEND i take BSOD sometimes after 40 min, sometimes after 2-3 hours, is random, but if i chose Small FFT on prime95 i can run 10 hours without any BSOD. Any explanation?
DaLiu, have you run Memtest on it?
performance level 12??Quote:
Originally Posted by Vixen
and i thought i was nuts....
thers no gain then on ure rams.. infact might be worse than stock
try this
fsb strap at 333
mem at 800mhz
pll at 1.6
nb at 1.35
ai clock twister at moderate/strong/very strong
transaction booster performance level at 8
fsb termination at 1.2v
gtl at 63 for both nb and cpu's
Not with this motherboard but i changed 2 types of ram to be sure the ram is not the problem and looks like the ram is 100 % ok, i just finished 2 hours session of OCCT, no problem, 8 hours of SMALL FFT, no problem, the only problem is when i run BLEND on Prime95, random BSOD.Quote:
Originally Posted by OVERK|LL
I would still run Memtest on it for peace of mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaLiu
I should have come here for some answers, but thought I knew something about computers and can do it myself. Anyway, I'll post what has happened in hope that it helps someone.
I got Rampage Formula, E8400 and 2x2gig DDR2 800 crucial ballistix in the second week of April.
I was dissapointed in my overclock. I need 1.4v to hit 3.91Ghz. When I first did this, I was prime 95 stable for about eight hours.
I started getting freezes and reboots, but I thought it was because of my 8800GTS (G80) being clocked too high. It would reboot and not even get to the Windows logo before it would reboot again. If I weren't around to turn the computer off, it would do this for hours. Eventually, windows was corrupted due to the turning on and off.
I ran memtest and was unable to pass any of the four sticks in any of the four slots. I called crucial, and they sent me four new sticks (crucial :up:). I installed new sticks, but still couldn't pass memtest. Crucial is off the hook.
So I talked to Asus, they didn't really try to help me with the problem, they just gave me an RMA number. I procrastinated taking the MB out of my system because it is a PITA. Also, my system was running. I didn't have any games installed and it wasn't overclocked. I didn't have any freezing or rebooting, but still couldn't pass memtest with any stick or RAM.
I finally took the MB out and was about to package it up when I realized that I hadn't updated the BIOS. I felt so stupid when I realized this. So I put the board back in the case and hooked everything up. Passed memtest:clap:. I thought I saved myself twenty bucks in shipping and two weeks without a my computer.
I was wrong. I was later trying to test each stick of memory to see which would clock the highest and send the rest back to crucial:rolleyes:. It turns out that none of the sticks could pass again. WTFFFF!
I have everything set to auto accept the RAM timings and voltage. These are set to 4-4-4-12 @ 2.2v.
My biggest fear is that ASUS will not be able to find a problem and send me back the same board. My next fear is that the RAM is incompatible. Of course, I could be a moron and not be doing something so very simple. In that case, I will call God to set up an RMA on my brain.
Am I overlooking anything here?
Thanks for your help, but I don't think you've read my post entirely (or haven't understood what the problem is) : the settings I posted are indeed very 'soft' (FSB 400 / strap 400 / perf level 12), but even with these I got a DET RAM issue, thus I don't think tightening the timings or the strap will help (I've also tried to raise all the voltages, without any success)Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
So actually, I'm not searching for the best o/c, I'm only trying to succeed with even a slight o/c without having this DET RAM issue.:)
Yes you are and you should have posted much earlier here or on another good forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickpatbrown
The rampage may not like crucials*, or your timings (it wouldnt be the first board). Before rma i would test
1) 5-5-5-15, trfc 55+, all rest auto
2) a different brand of ram. Check this thread to know which ones go well with this board.
*If your ram are the single-sided die they are just poor clockers.
Hey guys! Please check out what steps on CPU Voltage between 1.60-1.90V. Mine board have 0.5V step, e.g. 1.60-1.65-1.70-1.75-...-1.90.
Before 1.60 and after 1.90 steps are normal - 0.0625V.
I tried to clear CMOS, take off the baterry, flashing RF bioses by EZFlash, Afudos229es /pbnc - no result. Tried Kentsfield and Wolfdale.
Only one thing helped me - when i flashed MF bios, step has become normal. Than flashed RF again ant they again becomes 0.5V...
But i dont wont to use MF bios.
WTF with mobo? Help me please.
anyone with a QX9770 & this MoBo plz Pm me your settings on your over clock's..
soo far i'm at 3.5GH
with Level Up at Crazy
AI twister at moderate
& memory at ddr2-1002
all else is stock
I too am looking for settings/advice/suggestions, posted so earlier in the thread.
Get to 3.5, with just the CPU multi, but doesn't like higher than that.
eh actually did but didnt explain fullyQuote:
Originally Posted by Vixen
the problem is strap 400.. its buggy since maximus formula..heck same goes for the dfi x48
thats y a lot of ppl dont even bother overclocking on that strap as
although it reduces the strain the nb voltage.. but u take a hit on performance levels compared to strap 333:667...
thats y the det ram..check the maximus thread..
I get memtest errors on both x38 and x48 boards, regardless of ram used. I can test it in other chipsets and memtest 100% fine, but start getting errors on these chipsets. It is most likely random jibberish from the memory controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickpatbrown
I then use right mark memory analyzer and stressor ... passes no problems. I think memtest may have problems on this line of chipsets. I have no other stability issues with either chipset running windows xp or vista, OC or stock.
This has been my experience anyway.
EDIT: FYI memory tried on this baord, Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 C4 2x1, XMS2 DDR2-1067 C5 2x1, and Corsair Dominator DDR2-1067 C6 4x2 .. same memtest results, same rightmark results on all modules. Never had a MEM DET fault.
Jack
Hi m8, your mobo is ok. I have "real" RF, and vcore steps just like yours. Within 1.60 - 1.90 range vcore changes by 0.05v, before and after - 0.00625vQuote:
Originally Posted by Droperidolum
DEFLORATOR, Okay, Maybe thus is only russian RFs? ;)
Could you tell here about it in russian?
Oh ok, you taugh me something ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
I didn't know the strap 400 was buggy (someone with a high FSB above 460 will have to use the 400 strap, so what if its buggy ?)
Gonna try the 333 strap instead, see if this is gonna fix the DET RAM hangs..
Guys having some issues with the CPU Voltage.
I have my Q6600 at 3.3ghz with everything on auto apart from CPU Volts and ram volts.
RAM is at 2.2v as thats what it said it should run at, no problem..
CPU tho is another matter I had it set to 1.40v or so in bios and yet in CPUZ it was showing at around 1.3v so went back in to bios to check the setting sure enought 1.40ish, upped it to 1.5v and in CPUZ and sisofts sandra it shows up as 1.4v? is this a known issue? was wondering why I kept getting BSOD when running 3Dmark 06 and vantage at 3.3ghz with a 1.4v as it was in fact running it at 1.3v?
Any ideas?
Fillthee
Memtest gives me no errors on mine though, X38 chipset. Crucial Ballistix 667 sticks at 1113Mhz.Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpingJack
I don't think it's the software, I think it's likely a compatibility issue with the chipset and the RAM.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fillthee
I have the same problems, but i take BSOD in OCCT and i passed 8 hours of SMALL FFT in Prime95.
Would it be safe then to set the CPU voltage to say 1.55v'ish in bios so that it is in fact getting 1.45v?
Assuming that the board is in fact under volting? as I cant see 3 different programs reading the volts wrong, but I would not want to fry my rig for the sake of an extra few volts to get the CPU to 3.4ghz?
Fillthee
Did you try enabling LoadLine Calibration? Works fine with my QX9650.
got my QX9770 up to near 4GHz tonite stable
I feel that if I pay 300$ for a motherboard, it should run as advertised. The QVL lists crucial ballistix, just not the higher density (they don't list any sticks with 2Gigs per stick) How can you populate 4 slots with 8GB RAM without using 2GB sticks?
The RAM is listed as 4-4-4-12, I didn't even know what trfc is. The sticks have chips on both sides.Quote:
The rampage may not like crucials*, or your timings (it wouldnt be the first board). Before rma i would test
1) 5-5-5-15, trfc 55+, all rest auto
One thing I find very strange is that it passed memtest after I flashed the BIOS with 0403 and then a day later it was failing again.
I had a strange problem too, looks like bios 0403 is not the best choice for some people, i get random bsod with 0403 so i moved last night to 0401 and everything is ok till now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickpatbrown
Calm down the frustration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickpatbrown
It's listed at 4-*4-4-12 but it may NOT work at the declared timings on your mainboard, for instance with the current bios.
tRFC is in the memory timings page of the bios and it is one of the most important settings to achieve stability. This is the very fist thing that you need to do. Set it at 55 or even more.
Read here:
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=35435
First change the tRFC then if still you get errors, loosen your timings, starting with CAS to 4.
For how long?Quote:
One thing I find very strange is that it passed memtest after I flashed the BIOS with 0403 and then a day later it was failing again.
A newer bios may fix this, but i suspect that what i suggested in this and my previous post will do it. Also try 0401 as suggested.
Final result:
http://www.myrmidoni.com/_upload_/Q9450@3600Mhz.jpg
Thanks for the suggestions. I wish I had asked before I sent the board back. It should be at ASUS's door now. I hope that it is their problem, but after hearing your suggestions, I feel like I'll get the same board back.
I am amazed at how little I know about computers. It weird how when you just start out something, you feel like you got it. Than you start realizing how big the world is that your entering. Is kinda of like the difference of being 18 years old and 28 years old. It's cool though that there is so much more to learn. I just wish it wasn't so expensive.
What are the real-world performance effects of raising tRFC ?
Today hardware is like this, they sell beta products and all the troubleshooting and most compatibility testing is in the (power-)user's hands.
the real world impact of tRFC is minimal, theres ppl using as high as 100.
I believe asus support just send u a new board like they did with other ppl. Anyway i dont think it is your mainboard, so even if u get the same back...
i think i grapped a wonderful Rampage.
I need only 1,29V in Bios for 525MHz FSB.
Screens are following tomorrow!!
Heres a screen of a pre test with 1,31V. on NB V:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/080615_e8400fsb525mhd78.jpg
qujck tell me please what bios version are u using?