I just pulled the trigger on that kit also.
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I just pulled the trigger on that kit also.
Well just tried those settings, and after some stress tests all seems stable. I done a system file integrity check after Vista installation without any overclocks, and all files are fine. After the stress tests and a few 3DMark06 later, another file check resulted in this:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...asy_86/S2E.jpg
My inner child just died a little more.....:brick:
Do someone have some information about the Foxconn Dreadnought? Release date etc? I saw the video at Hexus, but thats all I know. I've also seen lots of pictures, good ones and bad ones. :)
with bios 0507 problems with Ocing 65nm Quads gone, this Extreme II is greatest mobo i had in last year, FSB 500MHz without touching anything in BIOS, is easy to set all to AUTO and 500MHz is fully stable with pretty low temps of chipset ... i have no watercooling connected yet, and mobo is cool only with air cooling ... great stuff here from nvidia, my new toy 3x 9800 GTX in TriSLI works great ...
SO I think I found a FSB hole on my board... 425-440 don't work for me
I can post, but BSOD immediately on hitting the welcome screen
wellll you know that leaving it all on aut means the voltages and settings are NOT at default, but increased to whatever asus programmed the bios to set, right? :D
setting ddr3 timings to auto means the timings get adjusted depending on strap, fsb and speed. setting ddr3 voltage to auto means it gets adjusted according to speed and timings. setting chipset voltage or cpu vcore to auto does the same... i can get 500fsb with everything on auto on my p5e3 as well, but its good to hear that the striker 2 extreme isnt worse in that regard :D
but im really not sure what to think of the striker 2 xtreme...
several people are now saying its not all that bad or that its a great board, but at the same time, thats what many people said about the striker 1 as well and i had 3 boards of it and it was a nightmare... and most people i know made the same experience while all review sites and many guys here praised it as the greatest board... so i guess ill get one to know what its all about and to have my own opinion :D
I found another little quirk with the SIIE...
It seems that if I set my vcore over 1.5v in bios (1.47 real w/ loadline enabled) that I cannot run small ffts in prime. Upon beggining small FFT testing my computer immediately freezes.
Any ideas on this one??? its the strangest thing! lol
1.5v in bios = no probs
1.506 (whatever the next setting is) = freeze
the whole reason I migrated to this board was for high cpu clock ocing and now I get a hard lock above 1.5 (1.47 real)!!! this is almost worse than the vdroop of the ref board :(
Saaya, this board is not perfect, but it is good. I don't have the experience that some are having of turn up the clocks, leave the volts on auto and everything is fine... NOT AT ALL! Sure it was like that on the ref board, but not this one.
After some work, I have found stability and the PERFORMANCE of the SIIE > ref board... across the board, clock for clock, the SIIE outperforms the ref board by a serious margin. That in conjunction with some of the small touches they put on the thing make it a keeper in my book. The clear cmos on the back is huge for me. I watercool and the idea of having to rip out my GPUs to pull the jumper horrifies me! lol
anyway, this board ain't perfect, but it is good :)
Yes, this is clear and every new asus boards do this ... but this board work with auto better then other boards (maximus extreme, p5n-t, striker 2 formula). I had few nF680i board and my first Striker Extreme works from purchase till today without any problem! Many months with sli setup, support of 45nm quads was only one my problem. I bought Maximus Extreme with DDR3 and i am dissapointed, that mobo is crap ... this Striker 2 Ex made me finally happy and will stay in my gaming rig some next monts ...
sonofander - you problem is in bios, last bioses are in some ways very immature ... we need finally stable and official bios ...
Looks like I'm going to take the plunge and grab one Striker II Extreme.
Hope it's good and heavy.
If it's not good, let it be heavy at least.
Guess I'd make good use of its weight when I'd ( hopefully not will :D ) be bashing Asus's engineers heads with it :D
Meh.. Im stuck between SIIE and XFX790 :help:
its about price and preferrences ...
SiiEx is very solid, stable and very expensive board - but has only quality capacitors, have a great quiet cooling system ...
Referrence nvidia has cheap capacitors, noisy colling but is cheaper ... and ocing is better then on asus today ... but will see with next bioses
It is up to you ... but both has the same good chipset ...
I can't really relate to "how good it might be with a better bios" :shakes:
I'll agree to the SIIE being quite "sturdy" but far, far from stable when overclocking beyond 1800/450. Bios 0504 and 0507 helped a bit, but eve tried various settings even the "1.6v" ones Elmor posted earlier, and not getting anywhere.
I'm not all pro-ref nv/xfx tho, it has some SPD issues with OCZ DDR3.
At least the overclocking is way easier.
Do someone have some information about the Foxconn Dreadnought? Release date etc? I saw the video at Hexus, but thats all I know. I've also seen lots of pictures, good ones and bad ones.
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Sorry for the lack of news Dino, but I have been quite busy in my work
I could flash the Reference Board Bios, but I have to force - using /F switch
In fact this bios, with P1 and P2 enable, seems to have very good bandiwth
Here is a result with the E8500 air cooled and the blue Cellshocks
http://pedrorocha.planetaclix.pt/790...stBandwith.jpg
Everest seems to be a bit buggy, if I boot at more than 950 the readings on Read/Write/Lantecy all go very bad in Everst ..this is quite strange, maybe is due to mem multipliers :confused:
Anybody here with a Striker II Extreme with a 45nm Quad?? (Not QX9560)
How good is it overclocking?
I think i have the SATA problem figured out. I did not get a floppy disk with my retail board. I don't have the jmicron drivers installed.
Anyone send it to me, or post it up here?
I am still waiting for a Q6600 GO test as well.. I know all you guys and gals have the Extreme stuff but it would shed some light on guys wanting to move up to this board if they can get a PRIME95 stable @ 3.6GHGz or higher since 1600fsb is no problem with this board. I see you having problems with your QX6700 cpu with this board which I was planning on buying but not now. You saved me some $$$. Thanks you...
fubarswe had sata problems as well, corruption above a certain fsb, are you having the same issues? he switched to IDE and now it works...
i suspect the clock feed for sata is somehow related to pciE or some other clock. did anybody get sata stable at high fsb speeds?
with what settings? what hdd and what sata plug are you using?
My IDE drive is not working either. I never got a floppy with my board that has the driver on it. JMicron support, says to go to mainboard manufacturer for drivers. Don't feel like waiting on EVGA to mail one to me.
looks good to me :D
Tony mentioned that 475MHz is the limit for P1 and P2 but i tested SuperPi which is a much better indicator of RAM performance than everest software
in my tests i am 100% positive that you lose no performance in RAM when booting past 475 as i was booting at 500MHz and 556MHz FSB for the tests with superfast performance in superpi
so do some tests with Pi :D
also make sure you tighten subtimings (in case you haven't)
i've done some groundwork in my thread which will probably help a bit
thanks for the update mate :up: :)
At 475FSB on the older bios files P1P2 seem to get disabled, you see this by the read speeds in everest taking a severe hit, writes looked to be uneffected. Now a few reviewers asked for what ever was happening pre 475 to be given back in options the end user could enable or disable, hence you see P1P2.
Now Nvidia can change P1P2 performance where ever they like, it could be now 500fsb before it gets disabled or 450...its just a simple hidden command but at least we now have the option to manually force it.
I do hope this clears up what i was saying about P1P2 switches.
yeah true Tony
i am really glad they finally sorted out crappy superpi performance :D
i did a video on last bench session and posted on youtube
i have the new bios in the video and i go through different parameters >> you can check it out here guys if you like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt4JTGHXjlk
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Nice vid man :up: Love your guitar hero 3 hey? :rofl:
lol i'm not a playstation owner but it doesn't surprise me that Metallica and Eric make it on the list as these songs in particular are very very good :D:D:D:D
it's a revision 2 beta still
Sexy Sexy... Thanks for the settings I tried them on my SIIE and bam! 450 FSB I couldnt get it over 360 before. im now at 3825mhz. I was stuck at about 3600 for quite awhile.
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8/450oh8.th.jpg
He has just arrive my eVGA 790i Ultra and my Cell-shock, I get the error C1, if someone knows the bios P3 solve this problem? A greeting.
Hmm.. been playing and testing with a few setups on air to compare what to stick with using Kenty, Wolfy and Yorky (non-QX).
Tried my trustee Q6600 G0 on Asus P5K3 Premium BPE max stable FSB 440, on Asus P5K Premium BPE max stable FSB 510, Abit IP35-E max stable FSB 480, Abit IP35 Pro max stable FSB 514, Gigabyte P35-DS4 max stable FSB 494 and lastly Asus SIIF 780i max stable FSB 436, not anything respectable by any means especially looking at my $100 board doing better and running cooler. B/w was also higher on the P35. Then I dropped an E8400 into 780i booted 333FSB fine, next stop tried 420FSB stock volts like most other boards did and failed boot. Board never started since, completely dead board. Returned it but am now waiting for some full Kenty tests on the 790i. :(
Anyone with G0 Kenty get above 490FSB stable? If so, what various volts?
Will never pay that price for a MB, ever, they don't give me money to buy it that I know (:D) but if I do intend to get it, I won't be the one paying anyway so who cares.
Just fired it up, looking real good.
Started at 450FSB booted noproblem at all on E8400.
NB under 50, its about time.
Vcore is higher then what you set in bios...
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I'm very happy so far.
Yeah man I'm wanting to see the same numbers. Don't have the SIIE, looking at this thread before I push for it :yepp:
Highest Vcore I've put on is 1.67v real and max on every other voltage the BIOS allowed. I don't have (non-QX) Yorky, they're not available here but have an E8400 yep. It never booted with the 780i on oc, killed the board at 420FSB for some reason, chip is fine. Waiting to see a few max Kenty stable FSBs on 790i before I make any move to play with it. Looking below, there's hardly much separating 780i/790i but for DDR2/DDR3 and 1600/1333 official FSB.
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/817...0123112qv7.jpg
I jumped on SE/EVGA 680i when they released and suffered nightmares over 'em for 5 months, 'aint making that mistake again :mad: I heard dinos especially touting the 790i as way better in terms of oc/stability than 780i, so I'm now waiting to see results. Kenty results above 485FSB stable and non-QX Yorky above 420FSB stable are what I'm looking for incl. b/w.
My G0 is Yorky enough for me, 1.36v real / 1.344v load for 3.753G stable stock HSF. 1.388v real 3.83G bench, 1.4v real 4.06G bench and around 4280 max at 1.56v air. ;)
Great, have you torture tested it yet? :D
WOW nice fsb with that Q6600.
I am at 475fsbx8 with a Q6600 and the Striker II Formula, 450x9 also stable and was looking to the Extreme to get more fsb but it looks like the old p35s are the best kenty clockers.I have not tried over 475 yet but did boot 490 on a max formula but not stable.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...67863468edvpcv
So i got my asus SEII from newegg today from the ups.
Let me just say that I'm in the process of rmaing the board. It'll be shipped back to newegg pronto tomorrow morning.
After I did a leak test before I powered up my system. I found out I had a crack in my fusion block. This is not a picture of a cracked fusion block, But I circled the location of where the water would bubble and spew out. What a hecktic day for me. Now I gotta wait another 14 days or less. If I wasn't a watercooling freak I would have never known about my cracked fusion block and I would be probably telling you guys different experiences and O/c results. Sigh. :banana::banana::banana::banana: happens right? :shakes:
http://i27.tinypic.com/2e0tw6d.jpg
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
i hope that's a one off or they are going to have some serious RMA problems
Anyone have the SIIE 0709 bios? there is one linked over on the Asus forums but it wont install for me from the bios flash tool, i get a rom mismatch error
anyone have problems with mounting the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, the backplate touches the little transistors, i havnt mounted this cooler because of this, im afraid of crishing them.
Its not to shabby bro, many others have higher FSB than my chip :yepp:
Thanks for the details. Looks like my SIIF was a dud then :(
BTW do you really need that high NB, SB, VTT, PLL volts? :eek:
Look at the setting I'm on right now (daily CPU), air, 28C ambient. Stock all volts but for CPU and MEM is as you see it=>
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7...4521iz5.th.png
Even NB/PLL are stock volts there. :yepp:
Have you tried FSB/MEM oc on SIIF and seen if it can do similar providing you have good oc RAMs?
well he says his system was/is stable at that speed with an IDE drive now, so... i dont think it has to do with an unstable oc.
thats what i first suspected as well, but he said it works fine, then after some time he gets weird issues and then the install is corrupted.
so there is some sata problem.
nvidia had sata corruption problems in the past as well didnt they?
i hope this time its just a clock signal problem
here pedropc, please try the new spd :)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=274
you can use one stick in either of the first slots and try to boot, if it doesnt work, turn off the psu, turn it on again, try it again, if it doesnt work try the other slot. this usually lets me boot even with the old spd, so then i can adjust the voltage and speed and timings in bios, boot to windows, flash the new spd... voila :)
and the problem isnt the "1.5v" of the spd, there is no voltage programming in the spd, its ALL 1.5v, unless you use epp or xmp. the problem with some older ddr3 spds is that they set tight timings already and the bios tries to set even tighter timings than what the spd is programmed to, or, there are some values which the bios misinterprets and hence tries to set a speed or timing that wont work. at least not with default vdimm...
wow, so that metal thing there can be taken off and its actually the top cover of the waterblock?
i thougth its just some cheap metal put on there to show the logo and look cool :eek:
damn, asus had theese problems with the blitz and maximus series of mainboards already, i know several people who had this problem...
they all contacted asus and they assured that the problem is now fixed :/
well, dont feel out of luck man, the striker xtreme 1 had a dud to golden ratio from 4:1 or so, its prolly similar for the S2F and S2E :D
I have run that fsb and ram on the x38 but not tried above 1:1 yet with 780i. There is also a rumor that bandwidth goes down over 450fsb with the SIIF but my 24/7 is at 450fsbx9 with 4G of ram . 4G of ram is hard to get stable even at 450fsb.
I have not tried less Volts since upping the gtl.
Saaya, if the new program SPD in my memoirs Cell-Shock then I worked well the other motherboars (X48, X38, etc.)? A greeting.
Wow there is a new BIOS for the Striker II? 0709? Whats the changelog?
just started Prime but it will run for days like that.
Ram left on auto but I would wind it back in.
http://i31.tinypic.com/k4fkeg.png
Very nice cognoscenti along with the low vcore as well. So how are you liking this board so far?
Thanks .
Im not much of an experienced overclocker and am just learning slowly from advice, mainly from forums.
This board seems nice, I got rid of the 780i striker II Formula to get this instead.
well im still waiting anciously for those q9450 results from ORB :D
I am having a real hard time getting any kind of OC on this board. The max FSB I can do on my QX9650 is 350. Any thing over that, I cannot even run SPI 1M!!!!. Here are my parts
Striker II Extreme(0507)
QX9650(L739A732).
OCZ3P16002GK
TRUE 120 with SLFEX
I left everything on auto except for FSB linked and synced with the RAM. Sometimes if I go over 350 FSB, it gets stuck on "Code Init" and I have to do a hard reset???. Should I RMA it or is there anything else I should try. Please help. I spent so much of money and time only to get frustrated.
It runs fine with everything @ default 12 hours prime stable and 1M and 32M SPI stable. I don't think it's my RAM as I tested it with "Unlinked" with FSB @ 1333(default) and the RAM @ the rated speed(1600 @7-7-7-20 1T 1.9V) and 12 hours prime stable also no errors in Memtest.
I also forgot to mention that I am running dual raptors in Raid 0 and XP professional x32. I first installed mediashield and tried reformatting and reinstall of XP without the mediashield.
I was gonna try that next, if everything else fails.Right now I just started another session of prime @350 FSB linked and synced. We will see how it goes.
I have a E3110 and a P5N-T Deluxe. I will try to put my E3110 on the SIIE and the QX9650 on the P5N-T and see what happens. Thanks for replying.
A trend forming anyone?:shakes:
On another subject I have flashed my EVGA 790i with the P03R2 BIOS, and the memory performance is on par with the ASUS S2E!!!:D :up:
However the BIOS will not post with FSB past 425Mhz when restarting the system (including after save setting & exit BIOS menu), only boots from power off. Very strange... :shrug:
Oh well can't complain too much I guess :D
Now just the droop mod...
One of the things I hate about the eVGA is the vdroop and vcore problems...
Well as someone else said before... I guess Loadline Calibration makes some people buy it hehe
Q9300 tested, and max FSB i reached is 480MHz ... 500MHz dont work ...
I ran everything on auto except RAM and VCore, so nothing really out of the ordinary, and the setting worked on the P03 BIOS. Also Benching at these settings are 100% stable, just had to boot from power off.
Both P1 and P2 are set on Auto. My mem timings are 7-6-6-18, 1:2.
Do you have some P1P2/Volts/Timings settings I can try out? :D
look at my thread for testing notes ;)
generally with P1 and P2 enabled you will have to increase SPP voltage and also SPP VTT
i also find FSB gain from MCP voltage increase to max but look at the notes too
auto volts and tight timings and high FSB resulted in HDD corruption for me :D heheheh
higher volts = bench stable no probs heh
Yep, its the board allright. My Qx9650 in running fine and priming on my P5N-T with 1.25V Vcore and 400 FSB(400*9=3.6GHZ) with SPI 1M and 32M stable , but the SIIE can't even do 375 FSB on my E3110, all on auto,xp freezes on a SPI 32M run. I guess I will have to RMA it.I didn't think it was my processor as it did 333*9 on 1.000V set in bios with loadline calibration disabled and 12 hour prime stable.
Yes been following your thread, but your settings were with dual core and under phase, whereas I'm just under water! :rolleyes:
Im not using the onboard SATA ports, so I don't know if I will get the data corruption, but after some stability tests and 3DMark runs there weren't any sign of corrupt system files. Yet.:p:
Will do more tests with this BIOS, looks mighty promising though.:clap: :up:
i corrupted both SATA and IDE drives
reason = too agreesive RAM timings :D heheh
I now have the Q6600 stable at 1889FSB with lower multiplier, is that any good?
Was just testing how high the FSB can go with this Quad.
Like Dinos said with P1 and P2 enabled thanks to 3/14 bios (thx eternal) i have big memory boost!
I gain over one minute in Pi32mo and memory bandwitch is over 12400mo/s (with 4Go and 2T), before with P03 if i increase FSB past 400mhz performance were worst.
si, con el spd mas acutal deberia funcionar en cualquier placa madre con cualquier BIOS. si la placa madre no arranca con ese spd, algo esta mal con el BIOS :D pues, o se quemo algo en el sistema :D
LMAO! 8-12-12? :lol: does it need trcd and tras that high? :o
try just a single hdd, if possible even IDE.
i suspect something is up with the SATA ports on that board...
How high can you get in bios or memtest without a hdd connected to the board?
fsb hole?
did you try to jump higher by 10 or 20mhz fsb? :/
maybe that helps...
and more chipset voltages maybe?
the new bios seems to be more agressive so maybe it needs higher volts...
hmmmmm
well, does it really matter?
as long as you CAN get the vcore you want, i dont see a problem.
if vcore is higher in idle than load... i couldnt really care less as long as its where i want it to be under load and its stable there :D
hmmmm with what multi? 6x?
did you notice any fsb holes?
hmmmm this sounds just like 680 all over again to me...
both reference and asus boards seem to have roughly the same strengths and weaknesses.
on 790 you mean? are you sure it was the mem?
fubarswe said the speeds were 100% stable with an IDE drive, so it must have to do something with the sata ports...
what memspeed and timings is that with?
you mean everest read bandwidth right?
nice results!
Yes Saaya everest bandwitch.
440X10 ram 4X1go cellshocks 14400 880 765-18 2T
Reading through the ASUS forum S2E thread:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...e=en-us&page=3
Looks like the data corruption when the FSB is raised from stock 333Mhz is very widespread on the ASUS Striker II Extreme...:shakes: and I'm not seeing ghosts and tooth fairies benching/tweaking early into the morning!!:D
Well thats pretty nice for a cpu with a 7.5x
Hopefully Q9450s are more friendly :)
I see it weird that people are getting data corruptions, are you all making sure you are not going to windows without making sure your RAMs are at least memtest stable?
And Saaya, I see it important (vcore, vdroop) mostly for us that do OC their cpus. I own an striker extreme 680i and sometimes you just hate that your CPU is stable at 1.36v but because it goes down to 1.34, you cannot keep it stable and that means by the time you get it stable, it will be getting a lot more energy than the neccesary when idle.
When 1 or 2 inexperienced people are reporting data corruption after overclocking, suspecting those people are at fault with their settings may be reasonable. However when 5 - 6+ experienced overclockers are encountering this issue, and only limited to the ASUS motherboard, an undeniable trend is starting to form, that points squarely at the hardware/BIOS that the issue arise form.
Speaking from my own experience;
- Corruption starts to occur when I move away from stock FSB
- Leaving the FSB at stock but upping the multipliers does not cause data corruption
- Leaving the FSB at stock but upping the memory frequency (within reason) does not cause data corruption
- Memory timing and frequency at any (resonable) level on stock FSB does not cause data corruption
- Memory timing and frequency at any level does not alleviate the data corruption when the FSB is raised away from stock settings
Memtest or not, why should EVGA at 400FSB works at same settings while ASUS :banana::banana::banana::banana:s up my system files?
By the way no personal attacks on my above posts :D
Just frustrated such trivial problem is causing such grief on such a beautiful motherboard...:shakes:
eternal
what he is suggesting is a possibility
i bet you right now that none of those ppl used memtest to check RAM
i corrupted the drives on really tight timings past 2GHz on ref board and i know that it is RAM related 100% >>> i didn't have a memset handy lol but those OS installs were really old anyways so i wasn't bumed about it as i was gonna do some reinstalling on benching drives :up:
reason i say that is that i've seen someone post for example that they booted cellshocks (back off saaya just using an example with an actual post so don't go PMing me about it :p:) at stock settings and board was picking up the SPD at high clocks (900MHz) at tight timings (8-7-6-x 1T) with ONLY 1.5vdimm >> same thing would apply to say corsair 1800 CAS7 sticks if the bios was booting at those settings with 1.5v......bios should select 1333 CAS9 for initial boot if RAM is not EPP2.0 ready
that is a recipe for an OS corruption right there if you attempt to boot into windows
Well I didnt clarify my statement. Sorry for that. If you take a look around at all the SIIE owners, some of them are getting nice OC results. I have seen people with 500mhz FSB and some others going higher than 4Ghz. For a moment I thought people in here were like OC without testing their hardware, or that they had faulty drives. I guess we will have to see what future owners say...
Last time I checked the SIIE forums, all I found was people asking for availability, guess is time to go around there again to check whats up with the board.
Dino,
If setting FSB at 400, using CellShock 1800 8-7-6-21 1.9V @ 1:2 1600Mhz 8-7-6-21 @ 1.9V still causing corruption... you really can't blame the memory... can you?
No probs :D
Have a look at my link a few posts above, 2-3 people experienced system file corruption just by raising their FSB slightly, and have had to make do with stock FSBs and only raising multipliers and memory frequencies...
I can run ORTHOS/OCCT for hours with FSB 450+ @ 4Ghz+, but that dosen't stop the random BSOD upon starting up programs due to the inevitable data corruption.:down:
I can't say this enough...
With 1T i run into a fsb wall @ 425mhz with my qx9650
With 2T i run into the wall @ 490mhz fsb
Because you guys don't confirm you tried 2T I mention this again.
anyone know how to force flash the 790i evga with the p03r2 bios?
Dang.. aint the sky falling down on ASUS today!:ROTF:
I got around the same barrier on my E8400...:rolleyes:
Why would I run on sub-par timings on a much more expensive board when the cheaper reference EVGA with the right BIOS does not need to, while with performance on par with the ASUS?
Anyway what I just typed is irrelevant. Can you run a system file integrity check on your computer?
Seriously? I am running an E3110 and 4 sticks of Cellshock @ 7-6-6-18-1t 450MHz 2.0v on the EVGA board. 2t for $130 more. :shakes:
Although, is the 1t vs. 2t thing related to the Asus having P1/P2 and the EVGA not? Which is to say, is the Asus at 2t still faster than the EVGA at 1t due to the P1/P2 settings (I imagine the answer would be yes, and I wonder if this whole 1t/2t thing is linked to the p1/p2?).
Any which way, so far so good on the EVGA board, I couldn't be happier. :up: