i want to run 1.55 continuesly,
i dont care if my 6600 burns next year, but i like to use this bord for 3 years
and in sept i will buy a new cpu..
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i want to run 1.55 continuesly,
i dont care if my 6600 burns next year, but i like to use this bord for 3 years
and in sept i will buy a new cpu..
@ Baloo_MF
I cool the upper mosfets the the U model and the side mosfets with the S model.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2...uter008ei4.jpg
hey guys, i just saw the booster and gear functions in my AIsuite
does anyone use these, and are they any good?
I suppose not
okay can anybody help me here?
i flashed my bios to 0906 and only to find out that it's :banana::banana::banana::banana:, after flash i set my previous oc settings(e6850@3.5ghz) and it won't boot to windows, then i look my settings closely to check nothings is wrong and i notice from hw monitor that even thought i set my vcore to 1.36 i only get 1.25 O_O and then i come here and see ppl telling about this bug...so what is the way to get my old 0602 back?
There you go.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...0&postcount=65
Edit: Just make sure when you flash in windows to stop anything running that could interupt the flashing process.
Anyone still have the 603 BIOS by chance? Planning on ordering this board tomorrow and reading through this thread it seams that the 603 BIOS is the way to go but, the download links provided are down?
EDIT: w00t!! First post :D
didn't realize I haven't made a post yet :P
EDIT 2: nvm, found the second set of links from Aerosupra here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=270
those ones are still good, thanks!
WORKING BIOS LINKS for people getting lost in 17 pages ;)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=270
I have been keeping up with this thread, and have flashed my p5ke from 806 (which allowed me to overclock my e6400 to 3.5 ghz easily, as long as left cpu voltage on auto), to 906, which worked as well. I have since flashed back to 603 (thanks for the good advice about the older asus update utility) and achieved 3.7 ghz with voltage damper (load line calibration, whatever you want to call it) DISABLED. I had to set my vcore in bios kind of high (~1.5875 I think) but my temps were well under control and I did expierience some of the vdrop b/c in windows it was detected as 1.5v. But the reason I tried this WITHOUT vdrop was that I was reading the article on anandtech pgs 5 & 6(http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=3184&p=6). It actually allowed me to achieve a higher oc and better benching without this feature enabled. Actually, at anand, they mention this feature specifically. So please keep this in mind if theres a possibilty that it might be thrashing your cpu.
Hardware: e6400, 2gb gskill hz, zalman cnps 9700
how do i flash to 603?
i bought a board and its using 5xx something.
i just DL'd the 603 rom and tried it with ezflash and it doesnt let me.
am i gonna have to use a floppy?
or should i just update to the latest one via ezflash. then use the asusupdate to downgrade to 603?
download 603 to usb flash memory stick then use ezflash in bios to flash.
I'm getting a E8400 in a few weeks and this board is first on my list so far to run with it. I've got a few quesitons for you guys that will hopefully confirm things for me.
1) Will a wolfdale work with a brand new P5K-E/Wifi out of the box with no bios update?
2) What max fsb can I look forward to getting with this board?
3) Is this board picky with ram? I've got 4gb of A-Data Extreme Vitesta 800 (4-4-4-12) that I belive is D9GMH.
4) Last Question: Do you guys think this is a good board to run with a wolfdale and if not, what would be best? ($150 budget for board)
1) I don't think so, someone on a forum in Aus tried it and it wouldn't post, but I'm not certain.
2) 600 or so??? :shrug:
3) not that I know of, again not certain though.
4) Yes I do, but there are plenty of decent alternatives for about the same price, eg. DFI Blood Iron P35, Gigabyte P35-DS4, Abit IP-35 Pro, etc. Any of these are good choices afaik.
Same here. I can never update using that ezflash crap in the bios. Bought a memstick for nothing...
I always do it using Asus Update in windows and it worked perfectly for me. You might want to try that.
Downloaded the 0602.rom, dropped it on a Flash Drive, rebooted, Hit Alt + F2, selected 0602.rom then let it do it's thing.
Very simple, and the Vdroop/vdrop is amazing, set to 1.45 in BIOS and reads 1.43 in CPU-Z and Everest. ;)
I'm also having trouble with my RAM, when I first tried to install the Mobo I put my RAM in and the system would power up but nothing would happen, I took it back to Fry's and they got it to post so my buddy brought some RAM over and it booted fine, with both of ours in there, he then took his out and it booted up fine with my Ballistix.
I tried running 1T and got the same thing, turned on but nothing happened, no BIOS no POST. So we had to do the same thing all over. I'm afraid to even touch anything in the BIOS now cause I don't want this to happen again. What kind of RAM should I be running in this thing..?
Criswell did you P5K-E come in a blakc box or a blue box?
I had this problem too I thought it was a Voltage thing with my Ram(Patriot Extreme)2.2v but took one stick out and left one in the first black slot nearest the cpu and it booted fine changed the ram voltage in the bios to 2.2v ,then put the other stick in and it worked fine.
Im having a problem with installing Asus Updater. Doesn`t matter which version either.
Setup starts, then it closes saying "no Asus motherboard found"
Anyone else having this problem?
Seems very nice to me. I will get one from that sorf ot boards :)
Okay guys, bios 1002 is out, i flashed it and guess what?
Vdrop is gone!!
If i set 1.4375Vcore, i get 1.408V in windows, just like i had with bios 0503! :)
The downside of this bios is that i can't disable eist, at least not with this E6600 cpu, i hope it's possible with my upcoming wolfdale.
Zeus,
where do i find this (1002)?, i dont see it on the asus bios support page.
Flash here too.
Vdrop is gone, that's good. I haven't noticed anything else beside the fact that I can't disable EIST. :D Don't know what Asus engineers are doing but they seem to have programed latest two bios versions blindfolded. First vdrop now EIST. :lol2:
But that's not such a big problem.
glide1, go here.
wrong link
Sorry, edited.
excellent only getting 0.025 drop anymore :up:
Good job asus :clap:
Yay, new BIOS, will flash later tonight.
Hello,
For is the P5K-E WiFi it necessary to take which bios?
P5KE1002.zip or e3501_p5k-e_wifi-ap.zip?
;)
Thank you
What does EIST exactly do? And is it a big drawback?
But then your voltage is going down if you aren't stressing your CPU -> unstable overclock
0906 works man. I heard that it won't boot at all with 0602/0603 :( I'll just compensate for vdrop and give more voltage... no big deal.
With the 503 it possible is not this is step?
I would see well
Heh. I wish it would work with 0603. It's the best :D
XiCe007: it probably won't.
I was wondering though. My mobo came with 0503 on it. Asus clearly stamped 45NM ready on the box. Why the hell would they do that if the board cannot boot using a Wolfdale/Yorkie with that default bios? :shrug:
I haven't tryed any yet but that's what people are saying. I'd rather have vdrop and just add more from bios to compensate then no EIST disable.
Ok. I just updated to from 0603 to 0906. Where the hell is the vdrop everyone's talking about? :D
1.66v BIOS => 1.656v IDLE / 1.640v LOAD (loadline calibration enabled). :up:
This bios has no vdrop apparently :D I will try with lower voltages and report back. Maybe that will cause it.
Ok. I've made some thorough testing with this bios. My findings are below.
BIOS :: WINDOWS
1.7000v => 1.592v
1.6875v => 1.680v
1.6750v => 1.664v
1.6625v => 1.656v
1.6500v => 1.640v
1.6375v => 1.624v
1.6250v => 1.616v
1.6125v => 1.600v
1.6000v => 1.496v
1.5875v => 1.480v
1.5750v => 1.464v
1.5625v => 1.456v
1.5500v => 1.440v
1.5375v => 1.432v
1.5250v => 1.416v
1.5125v => 1.400v
1.5000v => 1.392v
1.4875v => 1.376v
..............................................
1.3875v => 1.280v
..............................................
1.2500v => 1.136v
vdroop = 0.01v ALWAYS /w loadline calibration enabled
vdrop = 0.1v with 1.70v and anything below 1.6125v
vdrop = 0.01v with voltages between 1.6125v and 1.6875v
.................... = same vdrop of 0.1v
=> There is no way to get 1.5x V real with this BIOS :(
Seems like i'll have to jump straight to 1.6v + tommorow when testing for max clocks and spi. Does that EIST thingy really do any harm while OC'ing? Bios 1006 seems more appealing to me now :D
Not really
To the people above: EIST does NOT just lower voltage to save energy, it also lowers the clockspeed, which DOES NOT mean a high overclock will be unstable, it uses low voltage for the low EIST clock speeds, and it uses your normal higher voltage for when it clocks up (which is whenever the CPU is being used)
Why does Asus update keep erroring out when I try to install????/
keeps giving me this message "No Asus motherboard Instilation will be aborted now"
I see other guys are using asus updater with this board...
What gives??
So, it actually just better(less heat/power)? So BIOS 1002 is the best BIOS on this moment(with support for wolfdale)?
With 0603, does the PC boot? Or just black screen?
Someone said that it will work, but you just get an error for wrong cpu code or somehting.
Also Hideo is using 0503 with a QX9650:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...168256&page=19
Just flash 1002, it's fine except for that stupid eist, Wolfdale runs nice on it.
Just updated to 1002 myself. Hope i don't get any hassles with the EIST on while testing. My E6750 will get sold in 1 hour or so and i'll have to wait for the guys at the shop to call me to pickup the 8500 :D Can't wait.
About this EIST thing... I use EIST when I OC and I don't have any problems with it!
If you select vcore manually EIST won't change it when changing multi, afaik.
I'm using bios 602 atm, and I think EIST is automatically disabled if multi is selected manually.
http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_pa...50aHVzaWFzdA==
http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_pa...cl.htm#asusP35
HR-09 U Type 2 near the I/O panel
HR-09 S Type 2 near the top
thanks for the Info also did you guys notice, I'm using 906 bios and if I overclock prime stable to say 4.0ghz with my E8400. when I hit the rest button my motherboard hangs,but if I use the power button it's fine ? At default it doesn't do this and it starts doing it at say 3.7ghz?
How can Asus keep putting this crap out?
Getting sick of this junk!
Just went to download the new one and got a slow link.
I went back to change links and now it's gone?
Can anyone else see it?
i just received this board and it just wont post. i am using a 4-pin 12 volt power supply and elixir 667 ram. any one using this board with following ram and psu?
and does 603 have any flaws for use with a e8400 anyone have a link to 603 none work on this thread
Guys, how high could you get this mobo stable FSB wise? I'm having major difficulties passing 508Mhz FSB.
Can you try it with a 6x multi man? That's how i tryed and it crashes at 510 everytime, even though the cpu speed is lower then stock. I've seen almost all Wolfies to go up to 550-570+ that's why i'm asking....
Let me know if you could get it higher if you have some time...
I'm having strange problem with this board on 0906 bios. randomly it will not boot, when it boots , fsb fixed at stock and it never increase when i increase it in bios. sometimes it just work fine. anyone has any idea?
I've also couldn't even downgrade my bios using dos, ez flash, asus update. I've used afudos ver 2.07, 2.11 2.26. v2.07 gives me main bios checksum error. v2.11 hang on "advance check". 2.26 do not let me downgrade bios. I tried asus update ver 7.10.3 and 7.13.x. both give me same error. EEPROM incompatible. please help
Ariciu, try rasing voltages for vFSB and vMCH.
My board could do 543x8 with my E6750 and vFSB 1.4v, vMCH 1.4v I haven't tried max FSB yet.
Does the 1002 P5K-E bios also work on P5K-E/WiFi?
Yup. I've tryed all PLL values (up to 1.8), all NB (up to 1.7), all vFSB (up to 1.5) and all SB voltages. No luck. It may me be cooling. Something is really getting hot i think. With 1.8v PLL and 1.55-1.70NB i got some very weird screen flickering and windows programs were throwing errors left and right, even if i was at only ~4600Mhz which can be stable for windoze stuff without touching PLL and max 1.4NB.
A friend of mine just got his E8500 and an Asus P5K-e. He was worried about the board not booting up with the default bios but it works fine apparently. Bios 0703.
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/normal_Cpuz.jpg
I may try to go back to 0602/0603 but i'm a bit worried i'll keep staring at a black screen afterwards :D
Ok. I had him do some Prime to see what multi he gets and it's 9x only. So you still need latest bios to see the multi correctly.
put two different E8400 ,different batch number, in the same motherboard with the same cpu cooler and got 15 degree idle temps difference and one core on the second chip was reading ten degrees higher than the first core. I have been reading about this problem I think that core temps errors when readig certain batches of wolfdales. The first chip matches or very closely matched probe at idle and the second chip was 25 degrees higher on one core with core temps, than with Asus probe. Anyone else seeing these problems with core temps. I do have the newest version aswell.
Same here. Not much core difference once stresed (maybe 5-7C) but it always shows it idling at 40C. No matter what volts, speeds, etc. In bios it shows it at 21C at the current settings in my sig and around 50C when i really get some voltage into it (1.65v, 1.7PLL...) which proves that the bios shows the correct IDLE IMO.
is there any concensus on if this board will work well with a quad 6600? I was considering this cause i can get it locally for the same price as teh dfi which i would need to mail out for.
I know what you mean....looking @ one right know:mad: .....EZ Flash + Asus bios are a POS!:down: ...flashed bios more times than i can remeber with numerous other makes ....done one on this board worked ok....then tried to update to 1002 looked like it went fine....checked file, erased bios, writing bios, then boot block Done!...your computer will restart in 5 seconds....WHAT A JOKE!..tried everything to get it going....now RMA time.
So be WARNED!
Ouch :( I though about it yesterday and there's no point in doing it really. 1002 seems like a good bios. I hope they'll fix the EIST problem in the next release... i hate EIST.
BTW: i recommend using Asus Update from windoze next time man. I used it countless time and has never failed me once. EZ Flash didn't even work for me when i tryed it so i guess i may call that lucky seeing your troubles.
Let's clear some things about Intel SpeedStep.
So, there is no reason why anyone should not use bios 1002. :)Quote:
Under Microsoft Windows XP, SpeedStep support is built into the power management console under the control panel. In Windows XP a user can regulate the processor's speed indirectly by changing power schemes. The "Home/Office Desk" disables SpeedStep, the "Portable/Laptop" power scheme enables SpeedStep, and the "Max Battery" uses SpeedStep to slow the processor to minimal power levels as the battery weakens.
BTW, hi everyone. :wave:
Damn. C1E setting is bugged, not Intel SpeedStep. :shakes:
Well, after flashing 1002 vdrop is only 15.5mV and vdroop is 8mV. I'm happy. :up:
Mine just died out of the blue after we finished installing vapo on it. Damn thing won' t post anymore. Damn POS :mad: :mad: :mad:
Well I just got mine up and running. My P5K-e wifi has been lying around here since early last November. It got here second, my P5E beat it by a couple days. I like my P5E so much that My P5K-e couldn't get in the game. Well I got it up anf running with my old 540 processor. What a sweet board!!!
My 540 on very good liquid cooling could run steady at 4300mhz daily
Now just running with air and at only 1.336 volts that 540 is running at 4082mhz @ 36C !!! with a Scythe cooling it on top of my table. I ordered a 8400 processor today from the Egg. I have it running with 4gigs of G.Skill right now and it sure is a nice board so far! I had my 540 running ay 4600mhz earlier today on air!!! Had this board and this cpu cooler been around a few years ago these socket 775 prescotts would have been thought of as cool chips
Well hey I ran my prescott just to udate the bios. It has been fun to drag it out and bring it to life It is on my little fix it bench and won't be in the vase til I get the new processor going. I'll post a shot of my current clock and temps check out the rails on this $36 logysis psu. It is just a little spare I have around here.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Zilla/cool.jpg
If it will run my Prescott this cool...Who knows?
WZ
How do you guys check your Wolfdale temps? I got my e8400 today, and i see that my idle temp is always 35 for core 0 en 40 for core 1. Not even a little bit different. Rock stable... How does this come? And more important, how to solve?
Stress temps are good, they get higher and not that rock stable.
Hey all, I have this board and have a few questions and some odd problems. First of all, how do you read the NB temp? Is it the mobo temp shown in asus probe?
Also, I have some random problems with o/c'ing. I've always heard that this and the other new Asus boards recover from failed oc attempts "gracefully" by rebooting to stock settings. Well, whatever settings it deems as stock just hang the pc. I'm guessing that it undervolts by ram too much and makes it not happy. All I get is a black screen, no post beeps or anything. This has even happened to me once or twice on a windows restart without changing any settings. To get around this I end up having to put an old stick of value ram I have laying around in and that lets me get into the bios and adjust memory voltages to 2.3 or so. Then I can turn it off, put the team ram back and get into the bios again. Sometimes it requires a cmos reset and sometimes it doesn't.
Do you think that switching to Bios 1002 will help this? Or should I look for a different set of ram that will run with less volts?
Has anyone put thermalrights HR-09 on the mosfets?
I was going to buy HR09S for the top and HR09U for the IO side but after a quick mockup with sketchup :p: I'm afraid they only just fit with a TR 120 Extreme, so in real life that could mean they don't fit at all.
Any ideas?:shrug:
hi first post on XS :)
I recently bought a p5k-e wifi and wondered really how hot the upper mosfets get so i decided to do a little testing myslef.
Test Bed:
Case: Thermal Take Armor (server size, removed front vents and side of case)
Mobo: P5K-E Wifi (mobo laying horizontally)
CPU: Q6600 G0 (can't remember exact batch, either L726 A/B or L723 A/B)
GPU: Evga 8800gtx
Ram: Ballistix 8500
Cooling: Mosfet: 1x90mm on left mosfet, none on upper. max rpm
Ram: 2x90mm, max rpm
NB: 1x20~mm, max rpm
Cpu: 2x120mm Silverstone, lowest rpm on 2x silverstone fan switches
Temp Sens.: Lian-LI Model T-3
Ambient: 20c
As you can possibly see from the phone cam pic of my setup that the upper mosfets get a little bit of airflow (measured with my hand i could feel slight air movement) from the left PMW and Ram fans. additionally i didn't have DMM on hand to test.
The temp sensor i used is a model T-3 Lian-LI lcd thermometer, measured in celsius, which has 2 diodes and 2 lcd outputs. Looking at the mobo with the CPU socket at the top, one diode was placed on the farthest left upper mosfet (lcd output 2) and one placed on the mosfet third from the right (lcd output 1). diodes were secured to mosfets with tape.
Methodology:
Prime95 was used using custom min and max in place fft lengths of 8k with no selected memory usage running 15minutes.
Temps were measured between 10-20minutes looking the highest possible temp to report on each diode.
Test 1 Bios 0603 Voltage Setup:
CPU: 400fsb x7 3200mhz
Clock Overcharge:--- 0.70v
CPU Voltage: ---------1.35v (1.31-1.32v load)
CPU Reference: ------Auto
Voltage Dampener: -Enabled
CPU PLL: --------------1.50v
DRAM Voltage: ------2.05v
FSB Termination: ---1.40v
NB Voltage:------------1.40v
NB Reference:---------0.61x
SB Voltage:------------Auto
http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/406...0564590_rs.jpg
Test 1 (1.35v) CPU Idle:
Diode 1 (middle): 32.5c
Diode 2 (left):------30.6c
Test 1 (1.35v) CPU Load:
Diode 1 (middle): 42.6c
Diode 2 (left):------40.3c
Test 2 Bios 0603 Voltage Setup:
CPU: 400fsb x7 3200mhz
Clock Overcharge:--- 0.70v
CPU Voltage: ---------1.42v (1.39-1.40v load)
CPU Reference: ------Auto
Voltage Dampener: -Enabled
CPU PLL: --------------1.50v
DRAM Voltage: ------2.05v
FSB Termination: ---1.40v
NB Voltage:------------1.40v
NB Reference:---------0.61x
SB Voltage:------------Auto
Only change is CPU Voltage no clocks were changed so all Auto voltages should be the same, correct me if i'm wrong.
http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/418...9570276_rs.jpg
Test 2 (1.42v) CPU Idle:
Diode 1 (middle): 32.7c
Diode 2 (left):------31.5.3c
Test 2 (1.42v) CPU Load:
Diode 1 (middle): 45.4c
Diode 2 (left):------44.2c
Conclusion:
There is a temp difference between the two diodes of about 2c which I think may be attributed to the PMW fan being close to Diode 2 (left) or possibly the diode was not making as good of contact as Diode 1.
For an increase of 0.08v the max temp difference was 2.8c which is not alot.
I didnt test higher than 1.42v but looking at the resulting temps i would be fine running 1.5v load thru the mosfets with a fan over or near them.
Setup Pics:
http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/401...2142350_th.jpg
http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/408...2113463_th.jpg
NINaudio
Im not sure on the NB temp question, but I do think its the mobo temp.
As for the OC Fail recovery/Mem problem, you are correct the board is way
undervolting your mem in this situation. I had the same problem with my OCZ 6400 Reaper, I called OCZ for some help but they just told me to live with it and do the mem swap trick. Well that was not good enuff for me and with my
OCD in full effect at this time.... Well long story short I fixed it.
Here's the steps:
1: Download SPDTool, just google SPDTool you'll find it.
2: Run It and read in the SDP from one of your mem modules. NOTE: Save this as you orig SPD, incase you want to restore it.
3. In the top pane you will see a ton of hex codes dont mess with them, go
to the bottom pane and scroll down until you find
"SDRAM Cycle time at Maximum Supported CAS Latency"
and change it from whatever it is now to 3.00ns (333Mhz)
4. Save the new modded SPD, and the write it to all of your mem modules.
And you should be fixed, All this does is make your mem appeare to be ddr2 667mhz. when the mobo fires up after a bad OC it will read the spd and set your mem to 667mhz @1.8 volt and no more black screen!!!! yay!!!
P.S. this will not affect your perfomance since you'll set the freq/timing manualy anyhow....
is it true that bios 1002 had no Voltage demper mode? I can't find it in my bios, but maybe i'm looking over it..
Hi guys!
I'd ask some question about BIOS settings. Some options are strange for me:shrug: :
DRAM Static Read Control
Clock Overcharge
CPU/PCI spred spectrum
NB/CPU ref. voltages
Could anyone tell me something about these? How should I set them if I oc my q6600? What value should be set higher/lower for better stability?:confused:
Hey guys I was wondering what could cause this once my e8400 get over say , 4.1ghz prime stable it will hang if I hit the reset button and won't boot but If I use the power button it's fine any Idea why this would be. Also anyone else having this problem? It doesn't error even up to 4.3ghz and will prime but won't reset with the reset button?