POJO....refer back to GTJ's post, this thread, and try some of his memory
settings. PC3 memory is pretty finicky. See post 397 for link to GTJ's stuff.
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POJO....refer back to GTJ's post, this thread, and try some of his memory
settings. PC3 memory is pretty finicky. See post 397 for link to GTJ's stuff.
My computer has trouble at default settings, in order to make it work properly I have to up the memory voltage to at least 1.6v.
Thanks sir!Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
BSOD installing Windows? Its almost certainly your memory. Furthermore what you are describing looks just like the two reviews by "stag" on the following link:Quote:
Originally Posted by pojo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220278
That is your exact model RAM, and the exact same problem as you; yes?
Man alive, now I am worried sick - I still haven't gotten around to building my system, but all the parts are here. And yes, I bought the same RAM as you.
QUESTION TO ANYONE:
Life happens, and so I have not been able to take the time to build my rig. I already bought my parts from Newegg, but it has been almost three weeks since they were delivered. If I run into the same problem with my Patriot RAM, do I have any recourse through Newegg? Any advice please?
Quote:
Originally Posted by pojo
Bump the memory up to 1.8V and see how it goes. I have the same memory and I think it needs little boost.
(edit) nevermind. Tweem gti and Tom's Hardware I am starting to understand this DD3 stuff better.
Don't get hung up on SPD. No DDR3 memory manufacturer has got their SPDs correct for other than default settings. Remember, the only thing SPD does is set the default timings.
pojo: Because you have a q6600 the board is going to default to it's FSB which is 1066. Don't make any changes from the defaults except voltage. If you can't get that stable then there's another problem. Make sure you're running Memtest86+ v1.70 and run test 7 specifically. It's the only test that even comes close to simulating the stress that windows puts on memory.
gti,Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Thanks for adding some clarity.
Can you take a sec and read the two postings by "stag" here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220278
Doesn't it sound like he is implying the new RAM Newegg sent him as a return DID get recognized as SPD 1333 MHz?
And yet, as you and Randy seem to suggest, SPD is not a big deal - Tom's Hardware would agree. Note in the following review the same Patriot RAM sent to Tom's hardware did not have a 1333 MHz SPD and yet perfermed reasonably well and surely in excess of 1066MHz. See following link (long DDR3 shoot out review.)
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/ddr3-1...-29939-13.html
So, regardless if the Newegg guy got some special new Patriot RAM that has an SPD 1333 MHz, or just got some of the genuine stuff like Randy2 and Tom's Hardware - basically there is no way to know if our Patriot sticks are 1333 MHz freindly until we try them out? Is that the crux of what I am learning here?
It's possible that the replacement modules he got just happened to have updated SPD entries. Just like the DX38BT motherboards shipped today have the updated BIOS instead of the original. Of course it's also possible that he did get mislabeled sticks. It does happen.
Regardless, the 2 things to compare are the descriptions provided by the manufacturer and the ACTUAL performance. So if you purchased DDR3-1333 7-7-7-20, 1.7v and you can actually run that config (or better), then you are good to go. Ignore the utilities that don't report actual speeds.
The primary purpose of the SPD is to give motherboard BIOSes the best chance of booting successfully.
Thanks for your replies everyone. I since tested the memory with incremental voltage values at default settings, no success. I ran memtest test #7 for an hour and it passed all tests with no errors. Since my processor is a Q6600 with a FSB of 1066MHz, is that what is limiting my memory speed to 1066MHz ?
Another person had the very same problem as me except they were using OCZ reaper-x memory http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=33843
They resolved the issue by increasing voltage to the memory.
Anybody had any luck running this mobo on that OCZ Reaper-X memory (in link above)? How about the OCZ Platinum DDR3 1333MHz memory ? I am looking at these as possible alternatives to just returning the current memory for a replacement (bad idea??)
Any suggestions are appreciated !
This sounds like Memory is working with too low voltage. Increase vMem to 1.8VQuote:
Originally Posted by pojo
These Red 1066MHz G.skills rocks. I was able to ran these 1.6GHz @ 2.2V :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pojo
yes. you are currently running at a 1:2 ratio and you can't go higher than that. the only way to get your memory to run faster than 1066 is to overclock your CPU and keep that 1:2 ratio.Quote:
Originally Posted by pojo
with g.skill 1333 ddr3, E8400 and Bonetrail. Can I hit 4.0ghz? any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
I know you can hit 4.0 and above with the E8400 but not sure if that can be done with the memory and the motherboard.
With that mobo and those mem it's more about the user than HW :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by sizzla1
Last page pojo said when he upped the settings on his RAM the system wouldnt even boot (post?) and he had to use the jumper to get the settings back to normal.
My understanding is the BIOS jumper has three settings, normal, password wipe, and removing the jumper to flash a recovery BIOS.
I'm familiar with Asus and MSI, but with these Intel boards, what methodology is used to reset the CMOS settings with the jumper?
Steveo,Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Steveo
On the dx38bt, there is a three pin jumper with a two pin plug => two possible positions for this : 1. Normal running of mobo 2. Diagnostic.
When you set this jumper into diagnostic, it will automatically go into CMOS settings and you can then make the necessary adjustments. Then you put the plug back into the normal running mode.
...and removing the jumper altogether cause the motherboard to try and boot from removable drive and reload the BIOS.
Pojo: Sounds like we have to take a step back. What did you set the RAID controller mode to when you installed XP? Native/Legacy, RAID/AHCI/IDE? Did you use the F6 diskette? Also try 1 stick of memory at a time.
If you pass test 7 then you should at least be able to boot successfully iinto XP. It may not be totally stable after that but you should at least get that far.
@ pojo and gti
Thanks guys. I wasn't aware password clear mode was diagnostic mode and that that would reset the CMOS settings to get into the BIOS. Much appreicated.
BTW, this forum and you guys are great!
And though it may seem so, I swear Im not a total idiot LOL. (Im actually pretty good with OS and software.) I just have been out of the computer hardware arena for a few years. Now happily learning from you guys as a born-again-newb!
welcome me to the club. my new Bone Trail just arrived today. i'm just waiting for NCIX to move their slow asses and get my new DDR3 to me so i can get this bad boy going.
my question is regarding the onboard audio. i have a SoundBlaster Audigy 2ZS that i've been using for a couple years. i've heard good things about the onboard audio on this board and was wondering if anyone here would actually recommend i use the onboard over my Audigy. i figure it's not likely, but i'm open to opinions.
Vista or XP?Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
Aside from my CPU, the important hardware I have is very similar to Randy2s rig. I noticed he is running a 1200W PSU.
Quick question:
Will I be ok with this PSU?
http://www.coolermaster.com/products...ate=173&id=190
Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
Depends on what you're listening to and how you're hooking the output up. I use the onboard audio because I use the optical out to a AV receiver. Sounds perfect.
The link doesn't work but if it's the 850, you'll be just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Steveo
I kind of fell in to this 1200W upgrade, but I used an 850W SS Strider before, and it was more than enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Steveo
i had a real rough start, but i'm now officially a member of the club. i'm only running at 400*9 right now - i'm almost afraid to try to push any harder tonight after all the trouble i had getting set up. setting up RAID in XP is almost impossible - i finally just slipstreamed it in and made a new install disc. and i do admit i'm feeling a little homesick for my Asus boards right now. they're so much easier to work with imo. but i'm here and intend to make the best of it. i'll try to work my way up to 450*9 in the not too distant future.
ahh, i'm starting to get the hang of this. i think i might even learn to like this motherboard. after an hour or so of beating my head against a wall i finally got 450 FSB stable. my memory is underclocked at the moment, but i think i'll have a real nice overclock next time i get a chance to sit down and finish what i started tonight.
so far i have:
Intel E8400 @ 450*9
1.3125 Vcore in BIOS - 1.27 according to Everest 4.20. CPU-Z always reads 1.225 no matter what i set it at, so that obviously means nothing.
memory strap 400/1333 (for now. i'm sure i can tighten that up and get a 1:2 ratio)
V FSB 1.325
V MCH 1.450
V Mem 1.82
2 Gigs of Patriot Viper Extreme @ 675 w/ 7-7-7-18 1T timings right now.
i got 18,467 on my first 3DMark06 run. not bad for a dual core.
so I am looking for a DDR3 board to run my OCZ Platinum 1600 7-7-7 memory...
Is this the one?
I have a qx6700 processor and I really like to overclock and tinker with settings. I want to be able to push the FSB higher then my current 680i, I can do 400 rock stable with it, have been running 400FSB for about 6 months now on it...
So is this board recommended?
Is it better then the asus or gigabyte offerings?
Or would you just wait for P45/X48 if you were in my shoes?
TIA :)
i've only had mine for a couple days so i can't really comment too much. after a frustrating first day, i'm really happy with what it's doing for me right now. but i was happy with my last two Asus boards too. as far as FSB is concerned, i don't think anyone around here has made a serious attempt to go past 470. i got mine to 450 the day i set it up and haven't tried to push farther yet.
There is a BIOS update avail for DX38BT - IDCC 4.0.0.9 and BIOS 1478.zip
i don't see it on Intel's website. it still shows that 1397 is the newest one.
Link?
hey all
my brand new raptor isn't recognised by the bios during first boot but after i press ctrl+alt+del and reboot
i get the "Marvell 88SE61xx-Adapter-bios version xxxxx" message and then nothing.
how can i fix that?it's very annoying
ty
The Marvell only controls the eSATA ports. Where do you have the raptor plugged in?
Also was the system previously running OK and you added the raptor or are you starting from scratch?
Hey GTJ. If a person was going to use a QX9650 would the X38 Bonetrail be the way to go or should they wait fot the X48 version? Any thought? Thanks
Well, the QX9650 has a 1333 FSB so you don't really need the X48's 1600 FSB. Besides the 1333 FSB X38 can do 1600-1800 easily. So unless you just want to wait around to see if any new features crop up on the X48 boards, I don't see much reason to wait. Any investment in DDR3 memory will work on the X48 boards so if you decide later to go from X38 to X48, you only have to swap out the MB.Quote:
Originally Posted by GARY1951
Be sure to check out the other X38 boards besides the Bonetrail. You may find that another manufacturer gives you features that more closely match your needs.
The X38 has all the features I need. I have had 3 Intel boards over the years and they were all great. If this one has some issues Intel will get them ironed out it may take time but they will do it !!! The Intels were the best I ever owned for stability!!!:yepp:
Hi.raptor is plugged in first sata port.i also got a dvd drive into IDE chnl.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
starting from scratch here,i've managed to install windows (vista ultimate 32bit) with no probs
but i'm stuck in boot options.
If i unplug the dvd drive system boots up fine! tried all modes (slave,master and cable select)
Allready conf BIOS (boot from hard drive is selected) but i keep getting that screen during first boot.
Got the latest bios (1397).
Exactly which "boot options" screen are you stuck in?Quote:
Originally Posted by w.m
well,i don't know.here is my boot settings in BIOSQuote:
Exactly which "boot options" screen are you stuck in?
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1...s001gj4.th.jpg
this is what i get at first boot
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6...007bpf1.th.jpg
and this is when i reboot
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4...014bhu4.th.jpg
If i disable secondary sata controller,system boots fine.
Any thoughts ?
I had the same problem with the Marvell controller. It wouldn't detect
my IDE DVD and hung as you described. I checked it with an old IDE
Zip drive and it worked OK. Solved the problem with a new sata DVD
and shut down the Marvell.
yeah,i was thinking the same .Quote:
Originally Posted by oldsarge
i first suspected that when i unpluged the ide cable after hours of enabliing and disabling settings (got a BSOD once) in BIOS....
no info from intel about this.mailed them but i got a mail with links to pages i've allready seen many times :down:
allready ordered a sata dvd drive.will inform in a few days.thank you very much oldsarge and gtj :)
thought i'd post the link to my problem in this thread too. i hate RMA's and was hoping you guys could take a look at my problem before i call Intel. i have reinstalled my P5W DH Deluxe and G.Skill DDR2 800 memory and pass Orthos without any issues.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=176108
Hi, i'm back again with the same problem with this mobo : BSOD as I try to install windows xp pro with the usual message IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (with the same 0x0... address).
I am getting this message after sending back my OCZ memory and trying out my newCorsair DDR3 memory (which is supposedly the most stable and probably the most expensive). I installed the corsair memory (http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...2E16820145183), went into BIOS and chose setup defaults, BSOD appears as I try to install windows. I went through the usual alterations in memory overrides, using setup defaults, manufacturers settings, alternating sticks in slots and increasing voltage step by step, still the same BSOD.
After having checked out all the peripheral devices (gfx card, hard disk, memory) I am left assuming the problem is either the mobo or the processor.
Question 1 : Is there any way of telling if my Q660 processor is faulty here through BIOS or DOS ? (I mean, it reports the 'correct' values in bios, so...??) ?
Question 2: The only performance settings I have ever altered out of setup defaults are the memory override. I have never altered either the BUS or Processor overrides. Should I adjust the settings in these to help overcome this problem I am having ? Will adjusting the PCI express burn in mode percentage help anything (I am a bit nervous as I have quite an expensive ndvidia card here) ? What about the PCI latency timer ? The PCI Bus frequency option is not available ? What about the processor override settings ? Usually, I leave these settings at default, but I have exhausted so many possibilities now, I think these are the only ones I have left before I need to return either my mobo, my processor or both.
Any help or education in PCI Bus/Processor settings here would be really appreciated !
Final question : Am I stating the obvious here, is my Mobo a lemon !
this is a high maintenance board! the good news is that Intel has a good customer service department. i easily got an RMA for mine over the phone. instead of holding it for 10 days like Asus does to repair it, the guy on the phone made it sound like they'd ship me a replacement as soon as they received my board.
The board should be rock stable with all BIOS settings at default. It should also allow an XP install with no extra drivers even though that's not a good final config. So, it could be...Quote:
Originally Posted by pojo
Processor
MB
Hard drive
Video Card
DVD/CD drive.
So if you can't replace one at a time to narrow the possibility, then I'd try another approach... Download a Linux install DVD and see how far you can get with that. You might get more info about where the failure is.
What model memory and voltage are you using ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pojo
New bios just posted ver 1478
Many fixes........
Wow, that is a lot of fixes including the ability to lower the multiplier on non X cpus.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldsarge
I will get the IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL error if I dont up the voltage on my ddr3 to at least 1.7v. If everyhing is running at stock it fails.
Mobo : dx38bt latest bios revisionQuote:
Originally Posted by Randy
Memory : 2 x 1Gb DDR3 Corsair TWIN3X2048-1333C9 G
Processor : Q6600
nVidia FX 1700 gfx card
WD Raptor 150Gb HD
SATA DVD Burner
Quote:
Originally Posted by pojo
What voltage for the memory ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldsarge
So far, IDCC still does not work and now I have some resume from sleep issues. Anybody else getting results from this bios ?
New BIOS kills S3 standby mode on Vista. It goes into hibernate mode instead.
It also prevents my USB keyboard from being detected at bootup and generates keyboard not found messages in the log. Therefore I cannot enter the BIOS except in maintenance mode.
So as much as I want the reduced multiplier, it's back to the previous BIOS.
1.7V (as stated by Corsair)Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy2
anyhow, i sent the board and processor back for replacement. i actually had the very same memory as you and i sent it back thinking that was the problem :eek:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy2
I don't sleep or hibernate so I didn't notice that issue but I'm definitely NOT having problems with USB keyboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by clark_carty
Both of my problems went away going back to the older BIOS. I have a MS Natural KB 4000 BTW.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
I had to run mine @ 1.8V, even at default settings for stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by pojo
Looks like going back to 1378 has solved my issues as well.
Kind of dissapointed in Intel at his point.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy2
16. Multiple Accounts are not allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
Any member creating more then one account will be warned by staff, and the second account will be deleted. If a second account is created after being warned by staff, the member in question will be banned from this forum.
-bZj
Quote:
Originally Posted by down8
Didn't even notice that, I set up another password/Acct on my Macbook a long time ago.
Yeah and it was pretty imaginative naming one Randy and the other Randy2 so we wouldn't know both were you. :)
yeah, Hibernate and sleep are for the weak and get in the way of distributed computing:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
:up: :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
Don't forget to report the sleep/hibernate issue...Quote:
Originally Posted by clark_carty
http://supportmail.intel.com/scripts...d=36,2778,2807
Anyone know of some good RAM for this motherboard? I first ordered some OCZ ReaperX ram but I had to RMA it and since the place that I ordered it didn't have anymore OCZ in stock I went with some Kingston RAM that they had in stock.
Now Im kind of wishing I had some better RAM. So what do you guys recommend?
As of right now my system has:
QX9650
DX38BT motherboard
2 GBs Kingston value RAM
150GB Raptor
200GB WD
Any suggestions for a some good RAM for this motherboard?
i don't know about which brand of RAM you'll want, but you will want to pick something with high default clocks or that overclocks well. one of the main points of getting this board is to get your DDR3 memory running at a 1:2 ratio. i'd say either get DDR3 1600 or get some DDR3 1333 that will OC to 1600 or beyond.
I'm sure about that. I was able to oc ddr3 1066mhz almoust to 1600mhz :D I just need to get mah waterchiller ready so i can oc cpu higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
So I should go with 1600 Mhz RAM or an easy to overclock 1333Mhz? I have never overclocked RAM before (or at least not that I can remember doing so, Im still kind of new to overclocking since most of my old rigs didn't really support overclocking) so I wouldn't know which type to get to overclock. I guess I will just try to find some 1600 RAM so I don't have to worry about it that much.
Most of the RAM I have had in the past has been Kingston but Im up for trying other types of RAM. This was the first time I had tried OCZ and if they would have had more in stock I would have prefered replacing the OCZ instead of changing over to Kingston but they didn't have any in stock and were not going to be getting anymore for a while.
Should I try to find OCZ at another site or go with another brand, such as G. Skill or any other brands ? I am open to suggestions here.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1195530631
I'll try this if i get one of those blocks from my friend =)
Choosing a memory vendor is like deciding between Coke or Pepsi. :) Any of the major vendors are good. G Skill, OCZ, Patriot, Crucial, Corsair, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by cvoid
Go with the best RAM you can afford. If you can get the 1600s then that's what I'd go with. It gives you more room to grow.
You realize that you HAVE to use the wingnuts or it's not an officially sanctioned installation. :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by s0lid
Yeah, me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
I've also had problems with BIOS updates released since November on another Intel board. Wonder who Intel fired in October and if they should hire him / her back with a raiise! (LOL.)
To all of you with Vista S3 / Suspend to RAM problems:
Have you reinstalled Vista since updating to the latest BIOS? Results?
Also consider giving the following tool a try and see if it helps:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~hveijk/mst/indexe.htm
Have you had any luck with the MST tool ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Steveo
I assume he has since he recommended it. Let's hope he has at least used it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
I was thinking of picking up one of these boards myself a small while ago, but now I'm not too sure. I'd like to see a lot more quad results before I jump on board.
I wont have access to that computer until Wednesday. At that point I can give first hand impressions of the MST Tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
Aside from people having good things to say about the latest version of the tool in Vista, here is the other reason I feel there is a chance it will help solve the S3 problem:
At first glance it seems obvious that the new Intel BIOS has made a firmware level (BIOS) change that leads to the malfunctioning of S3 sleep state. So at first glance it is reasonable to just chalk it up to a BIOS bug and not consider the software environment.
However, recall that under WinXP, for example, if you installed XP with S3 enabled in the BIOS - your computer would enter S3 sleep just fine. If you later disabed S3 in the BIOS and booted fully into Windows, S3 would be disabled. Subsequent to that, however, if you re-enabled S3 in the BIOS, unfortunately the computer does not return to being able to enter S3.
S3 sleep state, even though its being disabled was caused by a BIOS change, the only way to re-enable S3 was by using a software tool called dumppo.exe (provided by Microsoft.)
So, there is a scenario where a BIOS settings change made changes to a hidden part of the power management system in Windows. Putting the BIOS settings back proper made no difference - S3 remained disabled. But using a software tool to repair hidden power management settings was effective in re-enabling S3 capability.
Bringing things full circle? The MST Tool was developed to perform dumppo.exe functions on Windows MCE and later Windows Vista. For this reason, and considering the scenario above, there is a reasonable chance it could solve the S3 problems with the latest Intel BIOS update.
Where I am skeptical is if the change in the BIOS setup makes changes to the hardware timeouts which prevent S3 from even being possible in the first place. (Firmware bug prevents certain hardware from shutting down.)
Right now I am slightly more confident than not.
Feel free to wait until later this week when I can report back first hand.
Or if you want to give it a try in the meantime, just make a quick image with "Complete PC Back Up / Back Up My Computer" and give the tool a try. (Vista Business and Ultimate only.) I know a number of folks who have had no problem with the tool, so I highly doubt you are going to damage your PC. But it is always wise to have a backup image before making base level OS changes.
gtj I'd be very interested in trying out your Linux driver. Is it available anywhere?Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
I'll upload it and post the link when I get home from work tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by vipertwo
First I want to apologize for how long this post is going to be. First the highlights of my system;
Intel DX38BT motherboard with bios version 1478
QX9650 CPU (I had a QX6850 in it and all the problems I’m having I had with that CPU as well)
4 gig of Corsair WIN3X40961600C7DHXIN memory
2 ATI HD3870 Video Cards
Watercooled CPU
I have several problems that I cannot seem to resolve. The first problem is more of an annoyance but maybe someone knows what to do. Sometimes when it boots, just about 100% of the time after it sits for a bit (I travel quite a bit) and you turn it on, it turns itself on and off several times and then eventually boots. It will also do this after changes to the bios. During the changes to the bios sometimes it will boot, sometimes it won’t. When it won’t it just keeps turning on and off and eventually if I shut off the power supplies and give it about 5 minutes, it will boot ok, even if you change nothing in the bios. Even if I leave the bios at default settings it will do this after it sits for a few days and you turn it on. I contacted Intel and they told me it was the memory because the board is only designed for 1.5 volt memory and that memory runs at 1.9. I also tried some of the same memory but not Intel “certified” and had the same problem. (I also had this issue with another DX38BT board. The initial board I received did this, but the chipset drivers were messed up and it would not recognize the USB ports. Something when very wrong in the bios recovery (probably the fact that the optical drives were not really recognized during boot) so I sent that board back).
Second problem.
I have an issue, or really several issues overclocking the CPU. The main problem, I think, is the fact that I can’t seem to be able to actually change the CPU core voltage. I can change it in the bios, but when looking at CPU-Z it doesn’t show any change in voltage. In addition to this the CPU core temp agrees with the fact that voltage is not changing. When running at 100% load I do not see any change in core temp (averages about 100 F at full load no matter what CPU voltage is set at). However when I use the 300 mV offset there is clearly a significant increase in CPU core temp at 100% load (CPU core temp goes to about 140F with the offset at full load). Both the QX6850 and the QX9650 exhibited these characteristics.
From an overclocking standpoint with stock voltage I can get it about 3.65 GHz. With the 300 mV offset I can actually go to 4.42 GHz. No matter what combination of voltages, bus speeds, CPU multiplier, etc, I cannot set the bus speed faster than about 360 MHz or it is not stable. From a memory standpoint I normally just use XMP Profile 1, which is automatic memory overclocking. But I’ve had the same problem when I use my own memory timings.
Of course I talked to Intel about this issue as well and they won’t even talk to you if you are overclocking. I don’t want their help, I just want to know if there an issue with their hardware or something with my system.
I hope there is something easy that I have messed up or am overloocking. If anyone can offer help I would really appreciate it.
jerry
Oh, I can't use the Intel IDCC because I'm running XP Pro 64 bit and they don't support this OS. So I can't use that to verify anything.
j
Don't listen to Intel.Quote:
Originally Posted by GJW
I have the same problem. It's an annoyance I don't deal with by just leaving it on and crunching for WCG. :)
It's got something to do with the board resetting the voltage regulators.
Don't listen to Intel.Quote:
Originally Posted by GJW
CPU-Z and CoreTemp report the VID that's requested, not the actual voltage. Get Everest. It'll show you the actual voltages as reported by the sensor chip. The guide in my sig talks about this and even though it's for the D975XBX2, 99% applies to the DX38BT.
STAY AWAY FROM THE 300MV OFFSET UNLESS YOU ARE BENCHING WITH SUB-ZERO COOLING. Think about it...If you have voltage set at 1.5000 and set the 300mv offset, you're pumping 1.8v to the processor. Not good.
You have to manually set the memory timings or you won't be successful. Use the calculator in my signature to see what results from various FSB, Reference Frequency and Memory Frequency settings. Also DDR3 memory is VERY sensitive to voltage, both under and over. You really have to take your time with this board.
What are you goals for the board? It'll help us give you some guidance.
Oh yeah, :welcome:
IDCC is also useless. Get Everest. It does everything you need.Quote:
Originally Posted by GJW
http://www.lavalys.com/forum/
Ok, thanks for the help so far.
I have Everest but I just have not installed it on that machine yet. I'm not running the 300 mV offset, I just tried it to see what would happen. I do have a sub zero cooling system ordered but it won't be here for about a month (Cooler Express 2009). Goals for the board, that's a good question. To be totally honest it's a toy for me. The only thing I've done well consistantly in my life is make money so I decided I just wanted to build something really fast and cost was/is not an issue. I do play a few games with it (CoD4, Halo 1&2 and a few others), but it's mainly just for messing around with. I just want it to be around 4 gig, that's my personal goal.
I had a D975XBX2 with a QX6700 and had pretty good luck with it, which is what made me buy this board.
I won't be able to play with it again until this weekend, as usual I am going out of town to Dallas tomorrow morning. I will install Everest and play some more this weekend and report back. I'm gone again all next week as well, so I only have two days to play with it over the next 10-12 days.
Thanks for the help so far.....
jerry
I just wanted to step in and show off a bit of hardware I won... The Bonetrail V2... X48 chipset.
This is the Bonetrail Version Two that uses a X48 chipset instead of the X38... It is, of course, an unreleased Engineering sample... as far as I can tell, the board looks the same, but the chipset is obviously different.
The Proc is an Engineering sample QX9650... I had it up to 4.7 on water, after only 30 minutes with it in an Asus P5K premium, so I can't wait to see what it does with this. I will keep you posted :)
Lucky U ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by dexaroni
Hey was it hard to get those, from intel?
If not i'll try get one ES proc from northen HQ, when i'm ready with my waterchiller project :D
:ROTF: IDCC is USELESS, U CAN only RAISE FSB 10MHz per BOOT :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Use newest SetFSB and use this setting: SLG505YC256BT IF u want to OC from windows.
I know people who know people who sponsored an overclocking contest that I won.Quote:
Originally Posted by s0lid
That is where the proc came from... the mobo came from a friend, and he got it from an intel rep... I don't know where it came from before that... not entirely sure that I want to either lol.
OK ty and welcome to XS m8 =)Quote:
Originally Posted by dexaroni
:welcome:
E: oh i only looked ur amount of posts not ur join date but what ever =D
In installed Everest this morning, set the CPU voltage to 1.3 and sure enough it shows voltage as 1.238. Same problem I had before.....Stuck on stock voltage for the CPU no matter what the settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
jerry
No dice on my first try with the MST Tool.
This is frustrating. I can't believe Intel would leave a BIOS that creates true power management problems considering their boards go into so many mainstream consumer PCs.
Like many of you I keep this computer in one of two states: Always on, or fully shut off when I am away. So functionalyy for my own situation this is not a huge deal.
But in the past I have had scenarios where S3 / Suspend to RAM was a necessity. And ironically, after struggling with S3 on some Taiwanese brand mobos; part of the reason I switched to Intel mobos was for their excellent power management handling. So, yeah, I get the general disappointment with this latest BIOS.
I just cant help but feel I / we are missing something here. Intel has always been good about keeping power management working properly, even innovating (Intel QUick Resume Technology.) And dumppo.exe tools like MST Tool have been so extremely useful in the past.
Im gonna try tweaking around with thw MST Tool and some different BIOS settings.
Ill keep yall posted.
Voltage control may still be on auto in your BIOS. Double check that. If it is on auto, set it to manual and then you should be good to go :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by GJW
I was chalking it up to a temporary "cold boot" bug. In the past few years I've seen Intel fix these with BIOS updates - like on Dragontail Peak and Blue Mountain2 mobos.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
But from what you are saying, maybe with this mobo there is nothing TO fix here? (A normal stage stepping operation of the VRs?)
Not to sound too stupid but where does one set this from auto to manual? I go into the bios, open up the CPU voltage menu and then pick the voltage. I have been through the bios and I didn't see a way to do this. I could certainly have overlooked something, I hope I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ymir
jerry
The actual voltage will show lower than what's set. Try bumping it up to 1.4000 and see what Everest reads. Also read the voltage when the CPU is under load to make sure it's not keeping the voltage low because it's idle.Quote:
Originally Posted by GJW
Thanks, looking forward to giving it a go.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
New IDCC with bug fixes here: https://download.desktopboards.com/idcc/
This one holds my customized fan settings between reboots now. It claims it needs BIOS 1478, but works fine with 1379 since I'm not updating due to the S3 Standby Failure in 1478.
And of course I totally forgot to upload it so I'll do that now and post the link in about 30 minutes. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by vipertwo
OK, posted at http://www.peakin.com/x38/asc76xx.zip
Unzip it in an empty directory and read README and INSTALL
Thank you very much!Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
At first I just saw this error in dmesg:
The chip seems to be an aSC7621a (with an a on the end), i.e. COMPANY=0x61 and VERSTEP=0x6d. I wasCode:[ 4558.898570] i2c-adapter i2c-1: asc76xx not found at 1,0x2e.
not able to make your kernel module work unless I patched it like this. The kernel is linux version 2.6.24.
Then afterCode:--- a/asc76xx.c 2008-02-22 11:23:17.000000000 +0000
+++ b/asc76xx.c 2008-02-22 14:17:07.000000000 +0000
@@ -37,7 +37,7 @@
};
/* Insmod parameters */
-I2C_CLIENT_INSMOD_2(asc7611, asc7621);
+I2C_CLIENT_INSMOD_3(asc7611, asc7621, asc7621a);
#define INTERVAL_HIGH (HZ + HZ / 2)
@@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
#define PRIORITY_LOW 1
#define PRIORITY_HIGH 2
#define FIRST_CHIP asc7611
-#define LAST_CHIP asc7621
+#define LAST_CHIP asc7621a
#define MASK_ASC7611 0x01
#define MASK_ASC7621 0x02
@@ -80,7 +80,7 @@
.addresses = {0x2c, 0x2d, 0x2e, 0x00},
},
{
- .name = "asc7621a",.chip_type = asc7621,
+ .name = "asc7621a",.chip_type = asc7621a,
.chip_mask = MASK_ASC7621,
.company_reg = 0x3e,.company_id = 0x61,
.verstep_reg = 0x3f,.verstep_id = 0x6d,
I see the following (with debugging messages turned on):Code:modprobe asc76xx
dmesg
Which looks ok. ThenCode:[ 267.141938] i2c-adapter i2c-1: Autodetecting device at 1,0x2e ...
[ 267.157915] i2c-adapter i2c-1: Checking 0x2e,0x61,0x6d against 0x61,0x69
[ 267.157918] i2c-adapter i2c-1: Didn't match asc7611
[ 267.173897] i2c-adapter i2c-1: Checking 0x2e,0x61,0x6d against 0x61,0x6c
[ 267.173900] i2c-adapter i2c-1: Didn't match asc7621
[ 267.189888] i2c-adapter i2c-1: Checking 0x2e,0x61,0x6d against 0x61,0x6d
[ 267.189891] i2c-adapter i2c-1: Matched asc7621a
[ 267.189893] i2c-adapter i2c-1: Detected asc7621a device at 1,0x2e with COMPANY: 0x61 and VERSTEP: 0x6d
gives the followingCode:sensors
I only have a fan connected to the MCH fan header on the motherboard so I would haveCode:asc7621a-i2c-1-2e
Adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at 2000
in0: +1.21 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +3.31 V)
in1: +1.01 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +2.99 V)
in2: +3.24 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +4.36 V)
in3: +4.99 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +6.61 V)
in4: +11.84 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +15.94 V)
fan1: 0 RPM (min = 0 RPM)
fan2: 0 RPM (min = 0 RPM)
fan3: 0 RPM (min = 0 RPM)
fan4: 0 RPM (min = 0 RPM)
temp1: -62.0°C (low = -127.0°C, high = +0.0°C)
(crit = -21.0°C) sensor = diode
temp2: +44.2°C (low = -127.0°C, high = +127.0°C)
(crit = +65.0°C) sensor = thermal diode
temp3: +46.5°C (low = -127.0°C, high = +127.0°C)
(crit = +65.0°C) sensor = transistor
temp4: +41.8°C (low = -127.0°C, high = +127.0°C)
(crit = -128.0°C) sensor = Intel PECI
temp5: -62.0°C sensor = Intel PECI
temp6: -85.0°C sensor = Intel PECI
temp7: +96.0°C sensor = Intel PECI
temp8: +118.0°C sensor = Intel PECI
expected to see one non-zero fan speed -- but actually I don't see it in
the bios (v1397) either.
Does that look ok to you? Do you know how to interpret the figures -- i.e. which fans and temps are which? The CPU is a QX9650.
I only have a fan connected to the MCH fan header on the motherboard so I would have
expected to see one non-zero fan speed -- but actually I don't see it in
the bios (v1397) either.
Latest IDCC docs state that MCH header RPMs are not monitored.