I'm glad you found it, but it doesn't work on my board, maybe it works only on the Platinum model.
There is a hidden menu for MSI P35 NEO2-FR/FIR users, discovered by clon22. Hit the F4 key while
in Cell Menu and you'll see a hidden "Power User" option, but I have no idea what it does, I think
the skew settings may have something to do with memory timings but I have never used them.
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just got my system together
neo2-fr rev 1.1 board with 1.8 bios
intel e2180 (stock is 200x10)
ocz gold rev. 2x1gb sticks
So far I have only been able to get a stable OC with prime95 stressing at 300x10. ram @750 with a 1:1.2 divider. Vcore is 1.4+ 1 or 2 settings up, vdimm is 2.05v. under load temps are 43-45C
tried 320x10 and 310x10 @ 1.45v both would reboot when stressing with prime. temps are about the same, 43-45c. Do I need more vcore? I have been running under the assumption that I want to keep it under 1.50v.
do you adjust any of the north/southbridge voltages or vttFSB? since the fsb is still pretty low I haven't played with these settings much.
On another forum a system builder reckons of the last dozen or so rigs he's built around E2xxx M0 chips none of them would go higher than 3.2GHz and most would only do 3.0GHz, which is pretty much what I get on an E2180, 3GHz@ 1.4 Vcore, it won't go higher and remain stable no matter what voltages I give it. You'll need an exceptional one to hit 3.5 GHz
For me 76 degrees is way too hot, you should reduce your frecuency, because you are gonna cook some component.Quote:
Originally Posted by dropglock
I did it before, but I don't have C1E option, what bios version are you using ??Quote:
Originally Posted by sbrehm72255
I think he's using the platinum board not the neo, that option is not in the neo.
The Neo2 FR/FIR and Platinum bios are all the same. I've made a binary comparison from v1.6 to v1.8 and they are equal bit by bit for both boards (after doing this, I've seen that the packages are the same, with a txt file that says that the bios is for P35 Neo2-FI / P35 Neo2-FIR / P35 Neo2-FRQuote:
Originally Posted by WSX
P35 Platinum models...). So I think it will be very strange that C1E option is present only for the platinum model.
I have never needed use of a C1E option, now I wonder what happens if sbrehm72255 hits the F4 key in Cell Menu ? does he get those Power User settings on his Platinum board ?
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I saw in his signature that he has a Platinum with DDR3 memory, so it's a different bios than the Neo2-FR/Platinum DDR2 boards :(Quote:
Originally Posted by WSX
I bought a Neo2-FR, then i removed the red sticker on the board, now I have a Platinum :P. They are the same, you can flash your board with the Platinum Bios.
I will try to find the C1E option with the steps sbrehm72255 did...
The Neo2 FR and Platinum with DDR2 are the same board, and in fact you can flash Platinum bios in the Neo2 FR because the bios is exactly the same. If you download the bios ZIP file for both boards and make a binary comparison, you can see that the files are the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by [LCN]Knowledge
But the Platinum with DDR3 memory surely has a different bios, so it cannot be flashed to a board with DDR2 memory.
PD.: For the Neo2 FR and Platinum DDR2, the last version of bios is 1.8, for the Platinum with DDR3 is 1.2
I think that shows you have 2 ports on front of the case?Quote:
Originally Posted by viktor92
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ragzarok
Most prob you've hit CPU wall or FSB wall. To check FSB wall, lower the multiplier, ie x8 or x7 and raise the FSB. No point feeding the CPU with so much Vcore for another few hundred Mhz.Quote:
Originally Posted by mehmehmeh
Bought a Corsair TX750w. :D
Checking it out now.
Spi32m @ 501mhz x 9 w/TR Ultima 90i :
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...pi32m_cpuz.jpg
This board started to get a little messy after Bios upgrade 1.8. FYI.
Specifically, it was doing fine @ 4.1Ghz w/ a 9x or 8x @ Bios 1.7. After upgrading to Bios 1.8, it became unstable and could only hold a 1hr stability @3.9 Ghz for 8x or 9x multi. After fiddling with it for a while, I was able to get back to stability with 8.5 multi. A little wierd. I thought it was due to degradation, but that's unlikely since I barely turned the machine on.
@clon22 how much Vcore on your Wolfdale to get 4.5 GHz, nice clock by the way.
Thanks man!Quote:
Originally Posted by WSX
1.525 in bios. :)
HWmonitor is ~ 1.5v. :)
Usually I'm running @ 445x9 for daily usage. :)
Currently got the following:
E2160 @ 2.7Ghz
Neo2-FR official 1.8 BIOS
2GB Geil Black Dragon PC2-6400
Scythe Katana 2 + Noctua 12cm
340x8 = 2.7Ghz
Vcore: 1.375
Ram divider 1:1.75
Ram: 400mhz, 5-5-5-12 2v
11 hours of Orthos saw temps peak at 54ºC
I want to try for 3Ghz (375x8 or 433*7), but I'm not sure what sort of BIOS settings this would need, and I don't really have the time to do incremental testing of the overclock.
Does anyone have any base BIOS settings I could try for 3Ghz?
Cheers
Is anyone having problems with multiboot? From a cold start my computer may reboot once or twice before properly initiating the video card and giving my monitor a signal. This also seems to make it so I can never put the system into S3 standby because coming out of standby causes the same issue.
neo2-fr rev 1.1 board with 1.8 bios
intel e2180 @ 3.0 375x 8
ocz gold rev. 2x1gb sticks (Vdimm is 2.1 which is spec for these sticks)
Just got this board two days ago from ClubIT. Version 1.2. Seems very buggy, but not bad in OC.
BIOS 1.77, 1.30v (if Everest is correct) 4G stable. It takes 1.32v on Maximus Formula. I thought Asus had a much better CPU power design.
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8...thos15hdf9.png
BIOS 1.84, vDimm 2.2v, vNB 1.50v, DDR2-1400. It's too easy that makes me suspect MSI overvolts vDimm a little, or maybe a lot
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6...eenshotlr5.png
However, this board has a lot of issues. I spent most of the time trouble shooting. It's not compatible with Cooler Master Real Power 750W (no POST at all). I had to clear CMOS even if I switched the two DIMM slots or connected the DVI cable to the other output port, otherwise it won't POST. And those FSB jumpers, man they are troublesome, let alone the bad position. Basically I have to clear CMOS every time if I want to make a change.
How do you set the FSB jumper? I had this double-boot problem when they were set to 333. After taking them off (set to 400), no double-boot unless the PSU is completely shut down.Quote:
Originally Posted by mehmehmeh
It seems that msi improved dram overclocking with new biosv. since 1.8:confused:
Is it? Then i have to try 1.8. I only can hit 528fsb because of my memory.
MSI Dualcore center is not that accurate. Sometimes it read Vdimm 3.1v while it runs @ 2.2v
I have this board for 3 months and i still like it. I never had any issue yet.
maybe since 1.7x. I saw someone before did 700MHz @ only 2.2v with BIOS 1.77.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arne
But again, I don't think the voltage is real.
I like it too, with mixed feelings though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ownage
Do you guys know any vdimm measure points? what be good if somebody who is able to reach >600MHz could measure it;)
DDR2 vdimm measure points. Should work on any DDR2 motherboard ;)
http://www.nordiccrew.com/crotale/vm...m_read_out.jpg
i have it and like it...
it was a bit iffy when i tried installing XP, and somehow refused to boot with dual channel ram installed, but overall, it's a good board :)
anyways, anyone mind telling me if it's a good idea to use the hardware jumpers to go to 333mhz with my 2140 (rig specs are in my sig)
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonicsallen
mine are the factory default 200. That's what I meant by cold start, first power up from a shut down PSU. S3 sleep state basically saves the ram state to disk and then shuts down the computer.
antec earthwatts 430w
ati x1650 pro
Update DDR2-1500 @2.4v
This board is insane.
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4...eenshotab3.png
Validation link
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=318661
Holy.....
Madness...
But I like... :D
That is madness! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by sonicsallen
What memory is that? ballistix 8500?
Ummm interesting, so newer BIOS's improve memory overclocking. Just what i needed :D. Thanks
Yes, they are Crucial 8500.
Update
My previous post DDR2-1500 @2.4v has shown this board is very good at 5:8 ratio. What about the others? I chose 5:6, 2:3 and 4:5 and did a little research. Let's look at these three screenshots first. Settings were all the same except FSB to run memory at 600MHz, vDIMM=2.1v, NB=1.45v. CPU is E8400 and memory is Team 800 cas4 D9GMH. For comparison, This pair of RAM does 600MHz ORTHOS Blend on P5K premium with 2.1v in BIOS.
PIC 1 5:6
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4...thos10hrl8.png
PIC 2 2:3
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7...rthos2hhb0.png
PIC 3 4:5
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3...hos1h33bb9.png
Seems like no difference, they were all stable @ 600MHz. Actually no, there IS difference. Here's how I did the test exactly.
1, I set vDIMM =2.1v, NB=1.40v. 5:6 ran over 1 hour before an error was detected; 2:3 detected error in 5 seconds; 4:5 was the worst, blue screen right after I clicked Start button. So mem raito difficulty is 5:6 < 2:3 < 4:5
2, I raised NB to 1.45v, 5:6 ran over 10 hours and no error; 2:3 ran 2 hours and no error; 4:5 was still the worst, error detected in 5 minutes and then system automatically restarted.
3, I thought NB still need more voltage to stablize @ 4:5, so I set NB to 1.50v. No, still error in 3 minutes, but no auto restart this time.
4, The prebious 3 setps were done with FSB jumpers taken off, which means 400 FSB. In this step, I set those jumpers to 333 to see if there's any change.
And there IS. With NB=1.45v, 4:5 could run over 1 hour and no error, like PIC 3 shows. Apparently, 333FSB jumper made it easier for the northbridge to run high memory clock.
5, To confirm the conclusion from 4, I used 333FSB jumper to go back and test 2:3. NB set to only 1.40v, 5 minutes no error. Compared with 1st step, which detected error in 5 seconds, 333FSB jumper also made NB more stable.
6, I used another pair of DDR2, Bufflo 800 D9GMH. It's not as good as those TEAM. I set vDIMM=2.2v, NB=1.45v. With 400FSB jumper, it couldn't even successfully log on Windows, just like on P5K premium. While with 333 jumper, it was able to run 16M superPi.
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8...016m333mj1.png
7, From 400 to 333, the performance did not fall. Everest read bandwidth was still 102xx MB/s.
Now we can see these FSB jumpers are not just for "easy overclocking", they do have some hidden effect on the memory controller. In my test, 333FSB is easier than 400 and gives the same performance. But with 333 jumper, the board has "double-boot" issue, which does not happen in most cases when set to 400.
I also did a small comparison between 333 and 266 jumper. It did not seem to have any improvement to me. But you may get different results if you are running a 1066FSB or 800FSB CPU.
This board is ecellent in dual core CPU and memory overclocking. It beats ASUS P5K-Premium (also very good IMO, except mem clocking) and blows Maximus Formula away, not even to mention Gigabyte. I am really suprised that a sub $100 board could be so much fun. It has some issues, but overall it's the best mobo I've owned so far. Good job MSI:up:
Thanks for those results, you should post them on the DDR2 overclocking database, the highest clock reached over there on Ballistix is 1335 MHz. The thing I like about this MSI board is it's ability to recover from a bad overclock, it always leaves my last settings in the BIOS even when the overclock has failed, I've rarely had to use the clear cmos button. For me the double boot with the 333MHz jumper is not an issue, it only occurs then I'm overclocking, once I have stable O/C settings in bios there's no more double boot.
DDR2 overclocking database
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=114977
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Change in strap loosen the timings?
I did realise that in some cases, 333fsb helped me achieved a slightly higher max fsb over 200fsb default jumper.
Anyway, alot of effort put in to do those tests, sonicsallen.
Thank you for the hard work. :)
Probably affects the "Performance Level" which is strongly related to the boards strap. P965 had straps, with P35 we have performance levels. If i have the time i will test test if the memory's performance level chances from 333 to 266. A higher performance level should make it easier for the NB to clock the memory.
Well the performance level is 8 in both cases when memory is is running @ 600MHz (5:6). Too bad we cannot set this value in BIOS like the ASUS or Gigabyte boards. And the performance drop from 400 to 333 is minimal. It does not look like a change of the preformance level.
Thing might be different from 333 to 266. The review on Xbit Labs says setting the jumper from 266 to 333 avoid performance drop at high FSB.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mai...m_8.html#sect0
I personally set 266, what settings do you guys use?
Greetings all.
A newbie here. Finally changed the MB since my Gigabyte 965P-DS3 turned out to be a dud for overclocking (at least with my E2160) and has the inability to take 4Gb of ram.
Read a review online about the P35 Neo2-FR which is a Platinum in disguise (I love the red sticker on the MB, hehe). Anyway, the board is stable at stock speeds. However, it DOES NOT like memory put in the orange slots. I've tried the following:
1) 1Gb Hynix PC5300
2) 1Gb Elixir PC6400
3) 1Gb Geil Ultra PC6400 CL4
4) 1Gb Crucial Ballistix PC8500
They ALL perform flawlessly in the green slots. As soon as ram is put into the orange slots, the LEDs would show the "decompress to ram..." combination. Did all the reset CMOS and battery removal, etc, that many threads had suggested.
I've tried JEDEC on all of the above. I've also tried setting the ram to 667 for the Hynix. And I'm sure you can guess that they didn't work.
I thought it might have been a PSU issue. So, got myself an Antec 380W EarthWatts and plugged it into the motherboard and nothing else. Unfortunately, no luck.
Now, I have to make do with 2 x 1Gb Ballistix PC8500 at 3.4.4.12 with 1:1 running at 700mhz (single channel in green slots) on my E2160 (350FSB x 9).
Has anybody encountered this problem before? Oh, this is already my second board. I RMAed the previous one with the same problem assuming it was faulty, but besides PSU and ram, I can't think what might prompt this bizarre and somewhat annoying hiccup on otherwise a very good MB.
I'd appreciate any advice and suggestions. Many thanks
You know that MSI colourcode diffrent,right? One colour for each channel.
No its not. I run dualchannel (according cpu-z), but i hav one stick in the green slot, and another in the orange slot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Leary
Yes, correct. Thats not like most boards.
I can confirm that putting the ram in 2 green or 2 orange slots = single channel. Dual channel has to be 1 x green and 1 x orange. This is what I don't understand. The green slots on my MB work perfectly fine. The orange slots don't work at all.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/....php?p=2675094
hey anyone seen or tried this?
I would like to have more info on this; but cant seem to find anything.
Im running a neo2-fr with a 2160@3.1Ghz...1.485volts (in bios),,,ram is teamXtreem hc4@4,4,4,12 and 2.1Volts.
3dmark06 is 11956 with an Evga 8800gt,SSC
Core voltage is 1.42 under a load
memory is 414 Mhz@5:6
Cooling is <60C under a load with BigTyphoon
Now 3dmark is 12056 with ram@430Mhz--4,4,4,10 4:5
not much improvement, but I broke 12K
Bios ver. is 1.8
Do you think that this ram TWIN2X2048-8500C5D will work ok with this mobo?10x
Im gonna try the vdroop mod to see if it will stabilize my Vcore some.
The chip is in between the Cpu-fan connector and the first ram slot, maybe a little toward the back of the mobo. But that resistor is SO small that my Old-eyes are gonna give me problems. The resistor that needs to be pencil'd is directly under the CpuFan header. Does anyone know the Dmm measure point for Vcore?? I dont trust any software program for measure Vcore. I would like to see for myself what the Vcore is with a meter.
Anyone with a Q6600 @ 3.6ghz care to share their bios settings? I have a rev 1.2 board from clubit. Have tried both the 1.8 and 1.84 bios. With the jumper on the board left at default, I can't overclock at all doesn't matter voltage. However I can set the jumper to 333 and the machine boots up fine. I manually set to 9x multiplier and leave everything else and it's prime stable for 8hrs now. However, even 334 is not stable at any voltage apparently. I am using Vista Business x64 and 8gb of ram (4x2gb Adata ddr2 800, 5-5-5-15 1.8v is what its rated at and what I have it set to)
You might try it with just 2 sticks to begin with. I've gotten my Q6600 up to 4.3ghz with the jumpers set to 266.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flak
Try removing both jumpers to set FSB at 400. Try upping tRFC level, NB and FSB voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flak
hey flak, i found this at a review of this board at anandtech maybe this can help you a little.
From anandtech review:
We utilize a 9x400 setting with our Q6600 set to 1.4375V, MCH at 1.450V, and VTT at 1.30V. Memory voltage was set to 2.1V as recommended. Our 4GB memory configuration uses a 4:5 ratio at 5-5-4-15 timings with performance level (tRD) at 6, which results in a DDR2-1000 memory speed. The 8GB memory configuration uses a 5:6 ratio, memory timings at 5-5-5-18, and tRD at 7. This results in fractionally lower performance (~1%) during application testing with a variety of benchmarks.
It seemed anytime we clocked this board up, we had to set SB I/O to 1.7V or 1.8V with quad-core CPUs.
I dont have a quad yet, so I cant really be of much help.
Edit: correct me if im wrong but MCH=NB <---is this right?
For Anyone getting the BSOD "irql_not_less_or_equal" on VISTA with this board, and it involves the file ndis.sys, read on.
Apparently it has to do with Microsoft's drivers for the P35 Platinum's Realtek PCI-E ethernet port. I got this BSOD randomly as well, maybe once a week tops.
My Fix: Downloading the new Ethernet drivers off MSI's site. They're relatively new too, 2-21-08.
Link
Server 5 seems to be the fastest for me. :D
This doesn't seem to affect XP but if it does you could always download the newest ethernet drivers for XP as well.
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...&GetDown=false
Or download the latest one from Realtek website. Realtek always update their drivers. Once every one or two weeks.
First set the jumper to 333.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flak
If you're planning to achieve 400x9 then you need no extra voltage for NB. However, you need to increase the fsb VTT to 1.250-1.300v also SB to 1.7.
For the cpu vcore you might need as much as 1.45v. That's 1.475 in bios.
For example I keep my Q6600 at 425fsbx8 = 3.4GHz using a 1.3850v vcore in bios.Everything over 3.4GHz up to 3.6GHz needs too much voltage and it's not worth it.
For the adata memory you need to set manual settings of 5-5-5-18-54-6-12-6-6 and 1.9v .
Also set the fsb/mem ratio 1:1 not auto.
Thanks for the help, tty I'll try those settings when I get home. It seems I may just have a bum quad. It does 333x9 at stock, but anything above that and one core (the same core everytime, and according to coretemp the coolest core) fails prime95.
Had a question for you guys, have this board on the way already have my e8400. Will I hit 4Ghz with this e8400 on this board?? I'll be running on air and my ram will ber 4 gigs Crucial Ballistix Tracers ddr2 800. Thanks guys I'm excited about this build. Picked this board due to hearing about it good overclocking for cheap price. Excited for my build. Thanks guys.
Yes, 4ghz is not a problem on this board. Clon22 benchmarked his e8400 @ 4500mhz on this board, we've also seen 1500mhz ddr2 Ballistix on this board, so this wouldn't be a bad choice for you're build. This board is just unbelievably cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by ban916
I found a good article about this board. Neo2-Fr with Q6600 under cascade by Gomeler :D
http://gomeler.com/2008/01/13/review...under-cascade/
Quadcore 4cores enabled 511fsb benchable
Just what I wanted to hear, thanks now I'm excited:rofl: Damn 511fsb on quad!! That is impressive!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ownage
Thanks for the help! I may disable the on board raid to try for higher. But it seems 3.2ghz is my max (1.42 on the cpu, 3ghz it does with all voltages at default values). At 3.3ghz core 3 fails no matter the voltage (and like I said earlier it even shows in coretemp as being the coolest core) in prime95.
Too bad to hear that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flak
I have the Platinum (which is virtually the same board) and very similar setup.
Runing 4 sticks demands more from the NB, and may demand some more Vmem also, maybe you could raise a bit and try out again.
My Orthos stable seting is:
450x8 = 3600
Vcore at 1.5V (my board is rev. 1.0, Vdroops a bit more, real Vcore is 1.43V)
MCH (NB) at 1.525V
VTT at 1.30V
Memory Voltage at 2.1V
SB at 1.8V
Timings for Adata mem sticks
5-5-5-15-54-6-12-6-6 @ 900 - 2,1V
Hope this help your quest to 3600 :up:
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E8400 and Cooler installed get rest of parts tonight..Will have it up and running will update you guys on overclock. I'm hoping for 3.8-4.0 with lowest volts. Hope I got a good chip.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...2/IMG_1309.jpg
Got a new package:up: All I'm waiting on is the case should be here shortly!!! My first build. Halfway there. :clap:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...2/IMG_1312.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...2/IMG_1311.jpg
Make sure you remove the protective plastic sticker over the SB heatsink on the MSI logo :)
Other than that, looks great so far. That heatsink is sexy :D
Thanks for the tip, I caught it when I was putting the cpu in... :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
How is the chipset cooling on this mobo? Does it need a lot of airflow at 400-450 FSB? I am watercooling the CPU and GPU, and the chipset doesn't get a lot of airflow, which has caused my P5W to do a few hard resets under load (gaming etc).
I am thinking of getting this board, and was hoping I would not have to watercool the chipset too. It does not seem to need that much cooling, but switching for a bigger chipset cooler seems a little counter- productive when going for this cheap mobo. It goes for less than half the price of an X38, and I'm not into Crossfire, and certainly don't want an Nvidia mobo.
I can run 500fsb full orthos stable with a passive cooled NB, and didn't even try higher :D I think the NB cooling is ok, it really doesn't get warm. I have a 80mm fan on the PWM area, which cools the mobo heatsink a little, but nothing more.
Well guys spent all night building last night...My first build Posted first time and no problems since. Have it oced to 3.8 with 1.2 cpu volts and running stable as ever..I have pics up soon and go for 4.0+ as well.. This board is badass!!! Any tips for updating the bios?? Never done it before, don't have a floppy drive and running vista 64 bit. Running the e8400 on 1.4 bios want to update to 1.8. thanks
If your PC is runing from a nobreak power suply, you may want to update using the Live update online, it's as easy as browse the forum :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ban916
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?f...ame=liveupdate
It's even safer if you boot with default values in BIOS options prior to update ;)
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Wish I could doesn't work with vista 64 bit...Quote:
Originally Posted by NBF
Here are some pics of the thing running... 1.32 vcore 4.0ghz 56c load
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...2/IMG_1316.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...2/IMG_1315.jpg
Thinking about changing to this motherboard.. do the jumpers actually change FSB or just the strap?
This board is a smoking deal... I have my e8400 stable at 1.3 volts at 4ghz 55c max temp under 100% load and scored 14.5k In 3dmark 06 with and 8800gts 512. I love this setup.
BAN916 congrats on the AWESOME build, nice box ya got there.
lawrywild yes the jumpers actually change the FSB. I think it is the same as the BSEL-MOD. @266 jumper you cant select lower than 266 FSB in bios.
I got my neo2 @ the egg; open-box for $69!! It looked just like the retail box. It had everything nicely packaged in the box, just like brand new. Even the back-plate was still wrapped in plastic. $69!!! Now thats a bargain. I gotta bum e2160 tho (1.4875 Vcore just to run 3.1Ghz) Now I want a q6600, but im scared that I wont get one that runs 3.6Ghz like everyone else has. I was waiting for the q9450, but I'm starting to think that there's not gonna be $100 worth of difference between that and the q6600. I dont wanna pay $100 more just for a few hundred more MHZ. If I can get 3.6 out of a q6600, I think I would have to get well over 4Ghz out of a 9450 for the price, and maybe well over 4Ghz aint gonna be possible! I guess that there is ALWAYS something better just around the corner, Just gotta pick a point and jump on.
I personally don't expect this board will fail with a quad @ max 4ghz for 24/7. I think you only will notice a difference between a p5k-dlx/blitz/maximus/dfi-lt when you clock the cpu much higher like 5ghz. P35 is just a killer chipset and the overall quality of this board ain't bad either, and especially for $69 (lucky bastard):up: .Quote:
Originally Posted by mreld3r
Here are some numbers!! Stable as a rock!!
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5...lockgj4.th.jpg
is it just me or are those led's on the neo2 motherboard the brightest lights in the whole world? They are so small. And the red light; it is ALWAYS on, lighting the way to 500fsb!
Very cool looking rig you have there! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ban916
Nice!
Thanks...I am running this rig on the old ass 1.4 bios...I have no clue how to flash..Is it worth it to go from 1.4 to 1.8?? I have no floppy drive gelp me out..:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by clon22
hey ban916 this is the BEST way to flash your MSI mobo.
If you dont have a thumbdrive, just go to wal-mart and pick up a small one cheap. This works fantastic.
http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=108079.0
Ok, so maybe that tool wont w3rk in Vista. So you create a CD-boot disk and flash from DOS.
So the flash drive won't work in vista?? What is the best free program that will create a bottable cd?? I've been looking can't find anything??Quote:
Originally Posted by mreld3r
no, dont get me wrong, you can still use a bootable flash drive to update your bios. I just meant that the msi-bios-flash tool wont work in vista. you can still create a bootable flash-drive with the HP thumb drive utility and boot up in dos and flash your bios. MSI has a program for flashing your bios, really easy. But you can still do it manually. Man; I dont know if i should link the files needed, because "I" got them from another forum, but you can search for them. That would be pretty silly not to allow me to link another forum tho.
google this:
HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool - v2.1.8
and this:
Windows 98 System Files
Extract all these files into a temporary folder. Then when you run the HP USB Format Utility select the directory for your bootable files.
Personally I used the MSI online bios update utility called MSI Live Update Online. I know that some people are wary of using windows-based bios flasher, especially an online version (to many things to go wrong there) but im whatcha call a risk-taker. Life is never boring that way. And "yes"; I bricked a PcChips motherboard once. "BUT" it was a PcChips mobo! so who cares. It was embarrasing to own anyway, wouldn't even run my old athlon at "stock" speeds. I had to under-clock it just to keep it stable. Who under-clocks chips?
Thanks man :clap: :up:
Here is a high overclock all on air and 3d mark06 with my 8800gts 512. I will post up the difference when I get the 9800gx2 for everyone to see... I know thats high volts for the chip it is for one run and is running fine still. Temps didn't get past 58C on load. Not a bad score for one 8800 gts. I think I can push it to 4.8 all air but don't want to buy a new quad core just yet.
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3...12ocjg6.th.jpg
Nice score, "about" 15K is my own target too. Ah well,,, maybe one day :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ban916
Just wondering about how well would my E8200 fare at such high voltages...
It will be fine for a benching run, just dont use it at those settings for long and make sure you keep it cool. I had a typo where I said it didn't get over 68c I ment 58cQuote:
Originally Posted by _hiVe
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1...0000ns3.th.jpg
Nice score for an $80 board eh....:yepp: I love this board stable and runs cool.
Not really fan of the GX2 card, but I guess its a fine score for the money ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by ban916
Btw, how much voltage do you pump into your NB at 500fsb?
At certain times I have a feeling that running it over 1.45 for 24/7 is too much heh...
thanks
I run my 24/7 at 4.0 with 1.3 volts...Just do benching with high volts...Still just as stable at low volts.Quote:
Originally Posted by _hiVe
The 9800gx2 is great I used to have the same card as you stepped up and saw a bit difference. The 9800gx2 scores higher in a lot of benches than 2 8800 gts 512s.. Good for me because I can't go sli. went from 14.9k 3dmark 06 to 20.3k 3dmark 06 and the 9800gx2 drivers are new.
I'm having this strange problem when I turn my computer on,
first it turns on for a few seconds
shuts down
turns itself on again, and starts working properly
how can I fix this?
Have you tried upping voltage on the fsb & north bridge?
if you talking about "dual-boot" or reboot of the board before it starts to run "normally" it's is a standard procedure with Intel i965 and P35/X38 based boards , nothing wrong with it. MSI Neo2 FR/FIR is an example for that ;]Quote:
Originally Posted by rscl
Just like Bl4ck^! said that is perfectly normal :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by rscl
I measured the ram voltage on my boring Sunday and I'm surprised the ram voltage are almost perfect. No ram overvolting like the ASUS boards do.
bios - realtime
2.1 --- 2.1v
2.2 --- 2.2v
2.3 --- 2.3v
2.4 --- 2.4v
2.5 --- 2.49v
2.6 --- 2.6v
Does it do this aswell when you restart from windows i find mine shut down anything over 400FSB, then starts again thou the CPU completely stable
My Neo2-FR Died on me recently.
Everything was fine at 4.3ghz e8400, until i stuck in my 9800 GX2.
That blew the board. I got a half second of fan spinning and power and then that was it.
I tried different psu's unplugging everything etc. etc etc i ain't no n00b, no go.
The board is not platinum performance, it is a good budjet board.
the awsome power of the 9800 GX2 raped the neo LOL!
So i went Gigabyte. Anyone who has a neo and it dies, i suggest this board:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=182636
As you can see, I hit 4.51ghz with the GA-P35-DS3P where with the neo2-fr, i barely got 4.3ghz.
Just letting you guys know!
Sorry to hear about your loss. My Neo2-FR took a lightening hit through 2 surge protectors and a power-strip, now it refuses to save the BIOS settings upon reboot. Fantastic budget board though, now it sits in my server at stock settings :(
Although there is nothing wrong with having the machine doing this, for some of us it may just be better to live without it ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by rscl
SO the fix for dual-boot annoyance on P35 Neo2-FR/FIR and other MSI P35 alternatives is to remove the "2" hardware FSB jumpers from their seats.
Didn't really believe untill I've tried myself...but works like a charm~
*Note: be aware that this will slightly change the mem. divider options in bios "cell menu" as well as probably force you to use nothing less than 400 base FSB however that is perfectly normal :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by slugzkea
I'm running mine fine with an 9800gx2 and it only takes me 1.52 volts to reach 505fsb on my board. Thats weird.
That is a trick to set the default FSB at 400. Make sure your CPU and RAM can run at FSB 400 before doing this. NB timings are loosen automatically so dual boot syndrom is gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by _hiVe
Thats interesting... keke.. :D
I did the "pinmod" on my E8400 instead to do 400x9.
Haha... didn't realised on removing the jumpers.
Thanks for the info guys...
:D:D...
Credit goes to wyemarn. Im not 100% sure, but pretty sure that i've read that somewhere here and almost certain it was wyemarn's post ^o^Quote:
Originally Posted by clon22
Anyway's lets enjoy the wonderful thing about it haha...