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strange indeed , Q9300 is 2.5 Ghz and Q9450 is 2.66 Ghz on the intel site
pity it is so expensive lol, otherwise we would know for sure wink.
Personally I'm going to go woth E2160 for now till april price cuts....
should have a nice 9xxx Nvidia or 4xxx ati at around the same time too ;-)
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Originally Posted by G80
E8200 FTW!!
Its half the power, half the cores and half the price of the quad core Q9450.
Even student can afford $160.
And ofcourse you can overclock the bejeebus out of it... if its not a good chip, you can do your own binning... buy a 6-pack for less than a Q97xx.
And as others and I have mentioned before, Wolfdale clock higher fsb, and usually let you get higher overclock. Vast majority of apps you run are not muli-threaded so they would run faster on higher clocked wolfdale.
2/22 and nothing out yet.. what's going on?!
What, nothing from AMD?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vryada
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115037
Soon as New showed them, they disappeared. "This user purchased this item from Newegg.com"
they were in stock for a little over three weeks before they sold out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
I was talking about Q9300/Q9450/Q9550. I'm going for the Q9450, but no stores seem to have them available.
Yeah me too, and the dates are all scattered, Tankguys doesn't seem to haveQuote:
Originally Posted by Vryada
an eta anymore on their site for the q9450, and several others say 24:th mars, so god knows
when they'll be available.
For what I've seen, most retailers have the ETA set on 3rd march. Some others show 2 or 3 units in stock, shame they don’t ship worldwide.
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Originally Posted by Vryada
Yeah even that date, which ones have you seen having those few in stock? In the states?
lol real-time pricing & availability
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Mfg Part # BX80569Q9450
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I know, I called and asked them.Quote:
Originally Posted by #su
Wait, so now folks are in a rush. How long did you guys wait for A64, X2 and now Phenom? You skipped Conroe so why should you even care? At least this is worth waiting for and even in April it will be worth it:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vryada
if i upgrade x3110 ftw 188 bucks is unbeatable
I didn’t skip intels because of amd (I mean, I wasn’t waiting for some “magic recovery/release”). I was just fine with my rig until recently, when it started to struggle with some new games/apps - especially audio stuff that eats cpu like crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
Of course it’s worth the wait, but I gotta keep working with audio (because, basically, that’s my job), and therefore, I need a new rig ASAP.
I know there was a great deal of speculation over the last several months about whether you could do a Q9450 on a 680i.
What was the verdict. My search results aren't finding anything 'current'
Well, basically Q9450 is limited by it's low multiplier.
so nobody knows when the Q9450 is going to be out? oh man. i have a customer itching to get a new video edit machine and i would love to put a Q9450 in it and overclock it to the moon. (i wonder what a 3.8ghz Q9450 would do for his render time:D) i would at least like to give him an ETA for the chip. so March or April?
3rd march, they say.
¿What do I say? Get the first Xeon X3350 you see (less demand, same chip).
Oh so these ones are essentially the same? Completely compatible? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vryada
Good luck trying to break the FSB wall. I bet Q9450 (8x333) will have trouble passing 3.4GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650
3.4GHz is 'only' 425FSB. Considering most P35/X38 boards are capable of 450FSB+... I'd say most Q9450s should break 3.4GHz easily. Beyond 3.6GHz, not so easily. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
overclockers.co.uk have a few wolfdales if anyone is interested.
Yep. socket 775 quad cores, 45 nm.Quote:
Originally Posted by lv_88
I just picked up a Q9550 (C1) stepping and so far I'm pretty happy with it (despite high price tag that is)! I have only had it since the weekend and because of graduate school I havn't spent as much time as I would like testing and tweaking! With that said however I'm currenlty running at 450Mhz x 8.0x and its fairly stable (HyperPI 32M stable, looping 3DMark06, 3+hrs of Prime95 v25.5, AQ3). The only reason I havn't run Prime for longer is due to high NB and CPU temps, they are right on the edge of being too high for my liking (NB=55C-60C & CPU=55C-59C) stock cooling on my Blitz Extreme except for CPU which is watercooled.
If I decided to keep the Blitz Extreme over my DFI UT P35 (I will keep whatever board likes this chip better and allows for more headroom) I will replace the stock heatpipe and NB waterblock and new heatsinks on everything else. In anycase once I get some more testing data together I'll start a new thread and share my results and hopefully get some pointers!
I got this chip from a member here so I don't know when they will actualy be available for retail sale but I'm always amazed that there isn't a well known release date from Intel, this is a big event, lol! Like many have already posted I heard the beginning of March?
where did you get it Roger?
im itching SO BAD for a Q9450
i don't think so. it will be on water (most likely) and the chipset might be as well. the voltages will be "high":D im just waiting for them to come out:(Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
I’ve heard that until older quads are sold out, new ones won’t be massively released. This measure is to prevent losses from the retailers. For example: Q6700s (2.66 ghz, 1066 fsb, and 8 mb cache) prices range from $500 to $550. If Intel gives out Q9450s (2.66 ghz, 1333 fsb, and 12 mb cache) at $315-$360 approximately, Q6700s would have their price’s cut (drastically reducing earnings from the retailer). That would make a chain reaction with all other processors of a similar range, so in order to avoid such disorder, 45nm quads won’t be released in large quantities yet.
I’ve read that the ETA is 24 April, but that’s too far away. I might go for an E8400 instead (that even if it’s hard to get, it’s easier than new quads).
Doubt it. Remember E6750 got released when E6600 and E6700 were still on the market? The E6750 undercut both chips while the E6600 and E6700 stayed at the same prices, even to this day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vryada
will a Q9450 45nm fit in my mobo?? (In my sig) or is it a matter of support with the mobo??
AC3421,
The chip will physically fit into your motherboard although I'm not 100% sure that your motherboard offers support for the new 45nm Quad chips though? There is a thread either here or at XS that list the motherboards that offer 45nm support (both dual and quad core Intel chips)? I will keep my eyes open and post a linky if I find it agian). With that said however I believe your motherboard fully supports the new 45nm quads and if it doesn't a simple BIOS update should solve that problem.
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Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Thanks for the input roger.
But I just found this http://www.uabit.com/index.php?optio...ge=3&model=333
Im happy :D
The Q9450 is superior to the Q6600 correct?? I know its 2.66ghz and 45nm, what else is different?
the instruction pipeline (aka architecture) is different, so it can do more at the same speed with less heat (thanks to 45nm) and less errors.Quote:
Originally Posted by AC3421
1333 fsb, 12 mb caché.Quote:
Originally Posted by AC3421
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Originally Posted by Swatrecon_
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Originally Posted by Vryada
damn, nice! I cant wait to get my hands on this chip. So they are available just not in mass yet, correct?
First one is actually a bad thing, only second one is an advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vryada
Why is 1333 bad??
Because the low multis means you will hit the FSB wall on current chipsets before maxing out the CPU. ~470FSB is about the limit, so that would in turn limit a Q9300 to around ~3.5GHz and Q9450 to ~3.75GHz. Theoretically, without FSB limitations, these chips should be capable of 4GHz+ overclocks, given they are on the 45nm process.Quote:
Originally Posted by AC3421
Oh, im not worried about that. Don't plan on doing any watercooling so I would prob only got for like 3.2Ghz.
My Intel rep told me a few OEM versions of this chip will be slipping out soon, but I don't know when, or who is going to get them.Quote:
Originally Posted by 71 (Bryan)
All these 45nm chips are a pain to get :D
Certainly seems that way! You must have a bunch of people messaging you all the time asking when, when, when!
Just wait for the E7200, then it'll get juicy @ 45nm!
so whats the xeon version of the q9450 called?
is it available ?
where?
The xeons are E5410, E5420... E5460, and they are available just about anywhere on the net.
No. That's 771. There's a 775 Xeon version of Q9450. Xeon X3350.
Yeah right. Like people on this site are gonna be afraid of that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Epsilon84
what did he say people will be afraid of :S??Quote:
Originally Posted by BullGod
all he said was that it's not very good for OC'ers cos' of low multi so they reach their limit quick but not too good speeds
Well just wait untill they are available and you'll see speeds above 3.7 posted on this site...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesrt2004
Your already correct BullGod, lol!
but you'll see e8400's at 6.0 :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by BullGod
yorkfields need to clock 3.7++ghz 24/7 or it's not worth getting; mayaswell get q6600 for anything less.
just need to wave a magic wand over an intel mobo chipset ot achieve magical 500fsb for yf. :/
I was going to reply to earlier but got side tracked. He's say that with a low multiplier, you hit the FSB wall earlier. I pegged as some big Intel Fan even after complain that Intel is doing nothing but selling lower base speed processors already overclocked.:down: With less FSB headroom and a lower multiplier it takes more to overclock them since they are essentially already overclocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by BullGod
So without sounding and like an equally crazy AMD Fanboy, here's the problem I have with this.
Processor, Group A.
7 X 266.7 = 1.86GHz
7.5 X 266.7 = 2GHz
8 X 266.7 = 2.1GHz
All very cheap and fairly good overclockers that will easily overclock to 333.3 (1333.3 effective) easily. Even Noobs, us and Intel knows this. Many will do 333.3 without a voltage hike!
Processor, Group B.
7 X 333.3 = 2.3GHz
7.5 X 333.3 = 2.5GHz
8 X 333.3 = 2.66GHz
Almost the same processors with some upgrades but is that worth the extra costs.:rolleyes: The only real things it has going for it is more optimizations and larger cache(courts are out on how much it helps). I'd much rather buy an older G0 Q/6600 or keep my Current E6600. Even better, wait for Nahelem like AMD fans waited for Phenom;)
I hope you are not insinuating Nehalem will flop like Phenom. :eek: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
I'm still waiting on the replacement for the Allendales :)
Roll on 3mb of Cache! :D
Yeah, the E7xxx chips look pretty temping, the 3MB cache shouldn't affect performance too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai Robinson
I'm still putting the squeeze on my e6300! These things truly are beastly... ran it 100% OC on air for about 9 months, been the same on water for a few more now. Sadly the chiller didn't open it up much... but still stellar chips.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai Robinson
No, Not at all. I'm saying just the opposite and that Nahalem will be well worth waiting on. IMHO, it will Rawk!Quote:
Originally Posted by Epsilon84
IMHO, wayyyyy too many folks are cheering on IMC when the Core improvements will be the best thing going for it. I don't think FSB is the big draw back some folks say it is. I say that mainly for Single Socket Desktop systems, not multi socket servers where CSI/QP is really needed.
This time new motherboards will be welcomed as well.
guys i was just wondering...the Q9450 & the X3350 seems to have the same specs...what would be the advantage of getting a quad over a xeon or vice versa?
TIA :)
take whatever you can get. its the same shi#
I was hoping for more info on the E5xxx as i think my E4300 is about to top out at 3.2Ghz...either that or i need a new motherboard!
anybody got a retail of the Q9450 already?
There is now a thread about X3350 (Q9450 equivalence) right here. And with some... initial OC results as well. You don't need crazy voltages... but apparently, you'll need... something else.
Sweet but 8400 still tops my list!Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
What about E5200?
Basics: 2.5 ghz, 45nm, 800MHz, L2 Cache 2MB, TDP 65W - ratio 12.5 ?
Aint it nice? With a price of 85$ and from specs it can easy do 4+ ghz
e5200 vs e7200 vs e8400 , all @ 3.8ghz, do some real world benches. I"d love to see the difference. If there's not much, i might have to build a microATX computer just b/c! :D :up: