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Waiting patiently for this board!!!
Ok with the intial offering of 45 units, this thing will last..what 15 sec? Then what? So when can can we realistically expect to get our hands on one?
well im thinking of getting this board too~
but how good will it stack against the evga680i?
For the benefit of us noobs who are lusting after this board:slobber: , can someone please post a build guide link?:D
well its a little more expensive then the evga board...
at least to me...
nice mother board dude congrats, Wish there was 7 segment display on my board to.
well can any owners post their oc results??
Some members on evga's forum have replaced their heat pipes with chipset tower coolers in order to maintain stability when overclocking. Those chipset towers go for around $30 ea, and usually for evga's they install two of them. Thats ~$50-60 extra that I would be buying to get evga's motherboard cooled the way I'd like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by somiao
DFI's solution is better than the heatpipe design, at least thats the way it looks like. Andre said the SB chipset fan is quiet, but I'd like to know the RPMs. =)
Yeah, but when is enough speed enough speed? :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by vengance_01
:nono: OFF TOPIC: I'll be selling my motherboard/RAM/CPU as soon as I get this board.
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Posted by VIRTUALRAIN
Can someone with this board do me a huge favor and measure:
- the box bound by the 4 NB retention loops
- the pin-to-pin distance on the SB retention pins
- the pin-to-pin distance on the DPWM heatsink retention pins
a 60mm fan fits the fan clips. dont know about overclocking yet.Quote:
Posted by DOGCHAINX
-What size of fan can you put on the NB heatpipe/heatsink? And does it need it when overclocking?
http://a6.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...c87430190d.jpg
Ill get the DPWM later, too hard to measure when its in the case.
wuts the maximum cu voltage??
can u post the mxium fsb u can do??
thx
If my next client meeting goes well I'm ordering this mofo.
Thanks for the pics and stats, I'm glad I held out on other 680s til now.
currently have it running orthos blend - E6400 at 3.5ghz 438fsb x8, if it likes that I'll push it a little, I hope it likes it.
Thanks for the measurements Eyeborg!
How hot does the DPWM heat sink get when loading up your OC'd proc?
where can we buy this board, can we even buy it now?
Nowhere yet. Check newegg tomorrow or early next week. I posted info about it in this thread, look back a page or two. I did NOT verify this info. I just took it off a thread that was in DFIclub forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
I sent an email to newegg asking if they have an ETA, but they said they don't know ETA's on new item shipments (BS...ask managing staff for hell's sake! You're purchasing it afterall!)
There are other countries other than the USA that have seen these in stock. MotherboardPro.com (i do NOT recommend them, since i have no dealings with them) list it as shipping 4/30/07. Newegg might get it sooner, but I doubt.
Thanks for the heads up. I just cheched out that Motherboardpro.com site...Quote:
Originally Posted by dogchainx
http://motherboardpro.com/displayPro...&categoryId=29
$315.99 :shock:
Still a far cry better than the Striker Extreme and in this case, you get more for less in my opinion!Quote:
Originally Posted by neptunes
raid test, 4x wd 160gb wd1600ys raid 0 16mb cache...
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5847/hdtachdm8.jpg
fun times for this weekend benching SLI...
Never knew you also had the board. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Can't wait for the rest of the results. :slobber:
PS: How do you like those hard drives?
Is it just me or is that poor? :confused: The burst and seek is ok for those drives but the STR curve is terrible - it looks to me like something is thottling as you should see the curve slowly drop down as it moves to the inner cylinders. Your average STR per drive is only 35MB/sec... that's not good. Something is capping it.Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
EVGA users were having similar problems with their boards... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=128803 You may want to check out post #66 on page 3... some users were able to improve things by turning off read caching and command queing although this was not a sure-fire fix for all.
For comparison, here's a pair of 8MB Cache 74GB Raptors on NF4 (which is not the best RAID controller either) and it keeps up with 4 drives on this thing!? Yikes!
http://members.shaw.ca/virtualrain/nf4raid.jpg
If RAID0 performance matters to you, then you may want to consider an Areca RAID controller with this board... (shown below with 4 74GB Raptors with 8MB Cache each)
http://members.shaw.ca/virtualrain/arecaraid.jpg
http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=710
450fsb*8!! 3.6ghz qc~
Two suppliers have pre-orders in Australia, both saying 5th of May as ETA. I called the disty who confirmed May 5th.
http://www.tekcorp.com.au/catalog/pr...f8d15c5b00d6b6
That's close to what these guys are saying (4th of May)... http://www.motherboardpro.com/displa...&categoryId=29Quote:
Originally Posted by dodjer420
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Originally Posted by virtualrain
I though we already knew nvidia raid sucked. .... it should be a silent agreement :toast: that if you buy this board you have to get an areca card if you plan to use raid!!!
On board raid controllers are getting terrible all around minus intel. :slapass:
Memory performance is not as good when overclocked. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by somiao
Has anyone seen any word of UK availabilty or pricing? If its sub £200 im gonna grab one and sell my IN9 i think :)
Very good to know. I can't see it posted anywhere...is that with the new beta bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by somiao
QC oc'ing is icing on the cake for me, since I won't be delving into quads until late 2007 or early 2008. Buts its nice to know that I can upgrade and OC the hell out of one. :D
EDIT: First REVIEW of the DFI 680i. (yes, I do nothing else than search google for 680i. :P)
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/108...ial/index.html
the raid figures are not the best but working and respectable enough to use, dedicated cards are always a good solution assuming all else is ok. This for me was Raid on a budget, 4 cheap drives in raid 0...
regards
Raja
nice
Gee...I wonder why the evga comes out on top in the OC comparisons? Maybe that 112mhz difference? :D If yer gonna do a comparison, do a friggin clock for clock comparison. At stock there is next to no difference and I'm sure it would have been the same had they clocked them at the same speed. When the board is out for awhile and the initial price comes down it should be a very good board to consider...Quote:
Originally Posted by dogchainx
No kidding. Or at least put down the FSB and CPU speeds on the graph.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldGuy
:slapass: Bad Tweaktwon..BAD!
Tweaktown is also mis-informed on the capabilities of the 680 LT chipset. They said...
AFAIK, this is wrong... nVidia literature...Quote:
The 680i LT lacks the extra 8 lanes that a full fledged 680i SLI has for a physics
http://members.shaw.ca/virtualrain/nforce.png
He also said this (which I could not find in the manual)...
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If you want to use the PCI Express x16 slot at the bottom as well as the top two, you cannot have any other PCI Express cards on the board and need to set a jumper - this gives you x8 speed on the final slot.
any news when this board will available in Euro?
Hmmm...there might be two different packaging types. One has the back withOUT the full motherboard picture (OCXtreme forum photos), the other WITH a full motherboard picture(Tweaktown review).
Different markets? Maybe...but a simple observation anyways.
The early engineering boards were different than the production level boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogchainx
I wonder if we'll see a quad-core update now that he has bearlake??
just wanted to say I LOVE THIS BOARD! :P
I'm getting another one to replace the 939 wifebox :P
Havent had much time to play. on my E6400 Ive seen 3.7 load XP and 3.6 with some stability, 3.5 is solid.. need to play and tweek this thing some more, however, I've been at work for the last 14hrs and am wiped out.. gone helping family move over the weekend, bbl.
I did see one on a fairly reputable auction site today if anyone can't wait... I don't think we're supposed to link to the bay here though..
i think its funny he listed one of the cons as "Availability low at this stage"...
considering its only available to reviewers ya i'd say the availability is a bit limited ... =/
Haha I thought that too.
Sweet cons -
Cons:
Expensive for 680i LT range
Availability low at this stage
Great for management ram
Team group 1200
Attachment 58116
H'mm my apologies if this sounds sarcastic or a party pooper but whats the chances of people buying this board then a deathly silence on forums like the R600 version of the Lanparty?
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Originally Posted by EYEBORG
Tooting your own horn EYEBORG?
LINK
:stick: Nice little profit if you bought it for $260, with a buy it now for $400. I hate you. :D
BTW, why did you remove the auction?
Well then EVGA 680i SLI is still better than DFI 680 LT?
Any board is better than a board you cant get. IMO the EVGA is the best of the boards out right now. Hopefully the DFI wil out perform it, maybe we will know next week. Remenber, the EVGA has a 5 month headstart on bug fixes, now that board is near perfect. We all hope the reason the DFI hasn't been released is b/c they were working out those bugs before release. I hated EVGA with a passion @ initial release, we were all their beta testers. It sure would be nice if you could get a 680i board that was near perfect at launch. /me hopes its the DFI.
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Originally Posted by nugzo
I would say the eVGA is the best 680i right now, along with the ASUS P5N32-E, those boards are real stable, had one, got the eVGA cuz of the QUAD CORE fix, A1.
Good point nugzo about the eVGA board at launch, it was pretty bad overall! Now though a few months after launch and many of us are getting very high FSB speeds, their overclocking like crazy, RAM is running very stable and at very high clocks, and pretty much all the SATA/RAID issues are fixed. Granted their are some other major issues like very relaxed latencys with chipset so after about 440Mhz-460Mhz we're seeing a drop in bandwidth, still suffer from fairly low FSB speed on Quad Core chips, chipset could use better cooling (even on the non-reference boards), and it took me 3 RMA's to get a board that worked at 100%!
With that said I wouldn't be suprised if the DFI board has some growing pains unitl the BIOS gets mature but I think that whole process will happen alot faster than it did on the reference boards! We'll see soon enough.
I bought the eVGA 680i board today for $215 AR, along with extra cooling for the NB/SB. Meh, I wanted to start testing out my memory and CPUa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Its just, i'm not patient. I have two e6600's, one e6420, 8x1GB DDR2 pPC6400 sticks of RAM, and one huge urge to upgrade. All of this without a motherboard. From what I read, i'll take my chances on the eVGA. If it has problems I'll RMA and get the DFI board in two weeks.
Sigh...i have over $1500 in CPUs/RAM/etc just sitting here. Watch for a FOR SALE thread in a few weeks!
AR eeek you need the A1!
lol...i meant After Rebate. ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
I have read way to much to get the AR.
dogchainx,
I was thinking the same thing as nugzo, glad you meant "After Rebate" intead of the AR revision, lol! So when are you going to get the motherboard, early next week hopefully? Now did something happen to your motherboard or are you just now making the switch over to C2D from AMD (s939)? I ask becasue your specs say your runnnig a DFI Expert (the same board I had before the switch to Intel) but you have tons of C2D hardware ready to go!
Yeah...I should have specified eVGA 680i A1 for $215 AR. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
I'll be getting the eVGA motherboard around Wed/Thur next week. I'll be going out of town during that weekend though (MYTHBUSTERS is coming to Salt Lake City! Woohoo!) so I might not be playing with the hardware until this next Sunday.
I am just now making the switch from s939 to C2D platform. Honestly, my opteron 165 is very snappy, but I need 4GB of RAM for Photoshop/Illustrator/Indesign running at the same time. So, i'll be upgrading to Vista x64 as my main workstation OS and have WindowsXP Pro as my gaming platform. I didn't want to spend more $$$ on DDR1 RAM, especially since if i add more RAM to the opteron, i wouldn't get the overclock needed to stay at 2.8GHz. That, and I'm an enthusiast at heart.
Look for a mini-review of my eVGA 680i A1, e6600's, e6420, OCZ and Patriot DDR2 RAM in a week or two. By that time DFI might be out in full force, so I might add that into the mix. Whatever hardware is left over from my "perfect build" I'll either sell on eBay or here locally.
Actually, there's a 15yr old kid who usually buys all my old crap, no matter what it is for retail prices (I never pay retail prices...i always find a deal). So, i'll hopefully break even on selling my extra equipment to him. He is an odd kid, lives in the basement of his parent's house with a huge rack of blade servers running, doing nothing, and computer parts strewn all over. Of course, that might be describing some of the people around here! :stick:
Yeah buddy, you better watch what you say, lol! Just kidding around but are you being serious about this kid having a bunch of blade servers? Very interesting.....
Yeah, like 15 of them stacked in his closet. But they looked old. Maybe not considered blade servers per see, but they were rackmount servers. He was just running them...not doing anything at all. I told him about distributed computing and that peaked his interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Anyways, any word on DFI's reputation lately? I've read NUMEROUS things about the company, but not sure what to believe.
This Lanparty EXPERT has been a dream to work with, the best motherboard I've ever had. I just don't know about DFI's support. RMAs, BIOS updates, tech support, etc. The best thing about the DFI's was that so many had them back in the s939 days. Now in the C2D DFI is late to the game, so the very few of us that will have the board might not be vocal enough for DFI to fix any horrible problems the board might have regarding compatibility. I know NVIDIA does the drivers, but the BIOS is DFI's responsibility.
you should check out the official DFI forums... i was browsing them a bit tonight, for boards that have already been released, and honestly it didn't look so good.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogchainx
apparently RMA's are a big problem ... if you can't do it through your retailer you're basically S.O.L. gotta ship the thing to taiwan ...
i'd browse their forums a bit and see what people are saying
As much as i want this DFI, I'd jump on a MSI P6N Diamond if it was to beat DFI to retail. I sure could use the extra 16x slot as is i have the other 3 full. The onboard X-Fi would free up room for a nice TV Tuner or DVB card as well :)
I'm not sure how you got that impression. RMA's in the U.S. are handled through the California office and for Europe though the European office.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jobeo
well thats great if its true cause i'm considering the 680i board myself... i only read a couple posts yet two of them mentioned RMA issues:Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2346
http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2350
Still the guys at DFI dont answer to people question in a timely matter. There are a few question unsolved over there (for the P965-S board).
Neither of those threads have nothing to do with the new board. 1 for the rd600 chipset and 1 for the NF4. I dont see any rma issues with this board yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jobeo
What FSB can you get with quads?
Ya'll think yer gonna be any better off with an MSI? I'd wait for the DFI. Aside from their ATI chipsets I've enjoyed every one of my DFI's based on Nvidia chipsets. They just seem to do em' better than everyone else...
The MSI looks nice, and I know you get a lot for $399...but its $399!Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
That and the last MSI board I had had horrible support from MSI. I sent numerous emails, and never got any answers. I finally sent the board back due to stability issues and got the DFI and its been stock stable since.
The things that worries me about eVGA is
1) build quality (ie, noisy caps)
2) board layout (go SLI = only one PCI slot. Horrible SATA location. onboard reset/power/wipe CMOS crappy location, etc)
3) Other oddities of the eVGA 680i. RAM being killed, NV4 errors, etc.
But, I want to build ASAP. And by the time i'm done building with the eVGA and testing things out, the DFI might be out in abundance with more people using/tweaking/fixing things.
I thought they had fixed all these probs?Quote:
Originally Posted by dogchainx
They havent fixed prob #2 for sure :)
I'm hoping that my eVGA 680i board thats coming has the noisy caps solved. I have read a few "unofficial" things from eVGA saying it might have been a bad batch from Foxconn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaac MM
As far as RAM being killed, I'll have to hope for the best. It seems RAM running beyond 2.3v kills RAM *fast* on the eVGA for some boards.
The N4 error (dll related) seems to have happened on other 680i boards, but nVidia has no idea, nor does eVGA about how to solve it.
DFI seems to be the sweet spot. I just wish I would know how stable, compatible and problem free they will be as well as how good of support DFI can muster. But, I'll get one as soon as I see one in stock.
Just to let you know dogchainx, I ended up RMA'ing my last board because of the horrible electrical buzzing noizse, it was just too much! In anycase eVGA happily sent me a cross-shipped replacment A1 with no problems (just make sure you register your board ASAP after getting it on eVGA's website)! If you end up having any questions about RMA'ing just send me a PM as I've done it many times through eVGA!
You should look up all the 875p-t problems and no support .Quote:
Originally Posted by ccokeman
hrmm ya it would be kinda disconcerting if there were RMA issues with an unreleased board..... mass RMA's from tech reviewers and whatnotQuote:
Originally Posted by ccokeman
You can only register if you buy from EVGA's website?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Nah...you just need to register via their website...
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Originally Posted by Isaac MM
I'm hoping and praying DFI will do a banger up job on a real 680 board. All the current 680 boards stink, in my opinion, for anyone looking for a ~4 ghz or higher 24/7 stable OC, with the RAM being faster than ~700 mhz.
LoL holy crap man, you sure have some demanding requirements. By your standards all C2D boards are crap. :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by elsupremo
I agree, i never had this much trouble buying me a AMD 939 board, man those were the good days.
No crap. There are too many friggin chipsets for these core2 cpus. I'm just hoping that the reason this dfi 680 is taking so long is because they're smart enough to make the thing bulletproof.
It's a no brainer with all of the "best MB for Core2" posts. People are dying for a great board. This RMA business is bull:banana::banana::banana::banana:!
Well, im really hoping availability of this board comes fast now, as it looks like my IN9 has gone bad on me... stupid thing... so im PC-less until i either get it back from RMA, or i can get my hands on one of these DFI's :(
Good luck with RMA...I haven't heard good things when it comes to Abit service. Expect a couple of weeks at least...hopefully that won't be the case.
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Originally Posted by MikeMK
Yes, ive been reading that myself. Ive heard of ppl having to wait up to 3 months. Typical... i was about to sell the board for the DFI... if only it could have lasted another couple of weeks and it wouldnt have been a problem!Quote:
Originally Posted by OldGuy
Gad zukes it's scary how disposable some of these boards are. The race to engineer boards for the new chipsets has thrown QC out the window. I'm hoping DFI has used the extra time to do some R so that we don't have to pay to be the beta testers for another board.
So what happened with the newegg and 45 boards this weekend:confused:
Didnt arrive yet. Same here in europe.
I bought them all so I can charge you guys 400 bucks a pop :D I wanna be the "New" Asus :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by palese
holy crap that board looks nice! :D
Yeah and maybe we'll get to use one before 680i/LT is EOL. :dammit:Quote:
Originally Posted by ionicle
:fact: QFT! Could they drag this out any longer?! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by scarface
No kidding. I'm re-evaluating my upgrade path. If my eVGA board (comes 5/2/07) is a good solution right now for my C2D hardware, i'll probably leave DFI behind this round. A C2D system running at 3.6GHz will be a superb system until Penryn/Barcelona come out late 07/early 08. And then I'll see who has a good board next year around this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by virtualrain
Of course, saying all of this I just might end up buying a DFI board with a Q6600 next week. I'm so sporadic with my spending sometimes. :slap:
motherboardpro.com has pre order for DFI 680i LT
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Originally Posted by AndreYang
wow a eos 5d...tripod? what lens?
What makes those photos is not so much the camera or tripod, but the lighting... we're not talking built-in flash here... I'm guessing multiple sync'd strobes! :D
hey @ Grinch you need a quad core ;)
I got an email from a local Canadian reseller saying his distributor says that May 22nd is the ETA in Canada. Yikes!
Shesh. I'm glad I'm getting my eVGA 680i on Wednesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by virtualrain
The Egg has them, I confirmed on the phone.:banana:
From Frank Wong of DFI San Jose "The First shipment of 45 units is reserved for NewEgg" The Second shipment will be out in mid May. No word on how many units, but I think this will be the one we can actually get one from. He has offered to hold one of those for me if I can't get one of these intial offerings. Based on that I ordered the e6600 instead:banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by virtualrain
But this board has also the FSB-Strap (slower Speed at c. FSB 420) like the other 680i-Boards?
What this board can do with quads?
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Originally Posted by virtualrain
might be strobes but it could also be perhaps a Lightbox and using a long shutter speed:
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ISO Speed Ratings = 100
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Date Time Original = 2007-04-06 04:33:21
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Shutter Speed Value = -1.69 TV
Aperture Value = 7 AV
Exposure Bias Value = ±0EV
Metering Mode = Pattern
Flash = Flash fired, compulsory flash mode
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I know probably getting 1 here in the next few weeks...:toast: :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
only 45 boards wtf is that all about? what are they hand made? they should have like 4500 available.
So when are they going to list them?Quote:
Originally Posted by hillwilla
Indeed, when are they going to list them? :) I don't want to sit at work ordering stuff over the phone all day just because they haven't listed the board yet. Gah!
And what's the deal with all the Socket939 Lanparty boards suddenly showing-up again on NewEgg? Very odd.