no, it won't :(Quote:
Originally Posted by krampak
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no, it won't :(Quote:
Originally Posted by krampak
Infinity = nice layout, underdeveloped BIOS, at least that was the case for NForce4.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbizzler
Lanparty and Lanparty UT are identical boards except the UT doesn't have all the extra toys like carrying bag in the package.
# P5WD2-E Premium rev 1.3 (not 100% sure) - ATX - Available but not rev 1.03G
i did find a number of these boards in frys. now how do i check mobo rev?? also even if it is rev 1.3, it "might" not support conroe??
Hi, when will the Dfi nf590 come out?? And Albatron??:banana:
Thanks;)
List updated again :) Sorry it took me so long... been very busy the past few days. Do I have to add VIA/SiS chipset based boards? Because those are most of the time the budget boards, and this is XS... that doesn't sounds good together :p:
Why not ? AFAIK P5WDG2-WS rev 1.03g will support conroe, 1.02g wont.Quote:
Originally Posted by FischOderAal
Pro version will support all revisions.
While we are extreme here, we also want to see an extreme list ;). I think if you find some time it would be good to add as it will just make it a complete list, and who knows if people need to have a budget rig for their parents or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyline GT-R
there are a couple updated biostar 945P boards (including a tforce) that you have missed.
again, great list, thanks alot
I don't think that there will be a P5WDG2-WS rev 1.03... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ^don.k's^
Don't add VIA/SiS chipset based boards. Its not like any of us would buy one
Hey geforce man... how did the vsta go?
How was the OC and what bios OC options did it have?
lol, so trueQuote:
Originally Posted by graham_h
my frys had 3 of them, all open box. i think the only way to telling is by looking at the moboQuote:
Originally Posted by theteamaqua
ewiz has p5w dh deluxe for only $242.05!!!
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-P5WDHDX
that's not a bad price
Nice find but I don't think they're in stock. They let you add large quantities to the cart without a limit being reached.
I know The Inquirer is a hotbed for rumors, but have you guys seen this?
Can we get this thread stickied please?
I saw that. If true I think it's a big mistake on Intel's part.Quote:
Originally Posted by vladimir
bah, i don't believe it, it's always been an issue with Nvidia as far as i've heard.
Too steep for me. My current mobo was $70. I guess I'll be waiting a little longer to get Conroe.Quote:
Originally Posted by 426hemi
There will be plenty of budget Conroe boards available soon. At least one is shipping now (in US) for considerably less than your current mobo.
But who can wait to kick some AMD fanboys ass with some serious Intel performance?
I can't :D
Asrock to the rescue, $70 Conroe board that doesn't force you to spend money on DDR2:
http://www.asrock.com/product/775Twins-HDTV%20R2.0.htm
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=321920
as well, lets you also keep using your AGP video card:
http://www.asrock.com/product/775Dual-VSTA.htm
will this mobo work?
http://www.lowestonweb.com/Products/...E-4CD6B9323BF6
The asus with the p965 chipset (P5B), do you think that it will OC well? Im very doubful about the board to pick. They are too expensive and the asus seems the cheapest one. The DFi, even if its a "infinity" series, it cost more than 200€.... What is the board to look for, for those who are kinda short of money:D ?
Thankss!
I too would like to see a review and/or some benchmarks on the P5B. Right now I'm stuck between choosing the P5W DH Deluxe or P5B Deluxe.
I've just seen that the Asrock cost 70€, is it a "good" board (a little oc-friendly?). Im waiting for the R600 DFi, and right now i havent the money to pick a P5D deluxe or something
I'd imagine all asrock (read dirt cheap Asus) boards are crap at overclocking, even if it did clock well you'd have to question the quality of the components, I doubt they would last long... :stick:
At stock they maybe a pretty cost effective upgrade.
They are not made for overclocking so it's pretty useless to compare Asrock boards for example Asus boards but they are great for budget pc's, HTPC's.Quote:
Originally Posted by stealthbomber
anyone know what the differences are between the GA-965P-DQ6 and GA-965P-DS4?
I'm probably going to get one of those, or a P5B. $300 for badaxe? screw that
I believe the only difference is a beefier power system (12 phase vs 8) and the audio codec.
And the DQ has a heatsink on the back of the board. "Crazy Cool" or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikesnav
think that could be similar to asus' stack cool? im not sure if its a heatsink but it passively moves heat to the back of the board, i THINK. It's something like that..... well here:Quote:
Originally Posted by taemun
Quote:
Stack Cool 2
Stack Cool 2 is a fan-less and zero-noise cooling solution offered exclusively by ASUS. It effectively transfers heat generated by the critical components to the other side of the specially designed PCB (printed circuit board) for effective heat dissipation.
From what I've seen the stack cool thingy is literally just the pcb with metal on it (looking like really fat traces on the board); while crazy cool is a little aluminium heatsink stuck on to the pcb with some thermal paste. There are some pics floating around somewhere.... (soz can't find atm).Quote:
Originally Posted by m0da
t
the stack cool has nothing to do with any of that.
all hey did was move all of the important components located usually right underneath the cpu, to outside and around the cpu.
the underside or rather backside of the mob is just blank right under the cpu.
it keeps the cpu components underneath from heating up
also keeps condensation from hurting things directly under the cpu.
funny how they claim up and down from here to hell and back that they dont guarentee any overclocks.
then quit making f'ing overclocking baords catered to the OC community with 1 goal in mind,,, make the overclocker happy.
i despise asus, they have done nothing but make crap from start to finish crap.
*cough* sounds like what you do in this forum ..... (I haven't seen a single positively sentimented post by you here!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=105113Quote:
Originally Posted by Nazu
Hehe.Quote:
Originally Posted by keiths
:banana:
Get some voltmods on that thing and you're good to go for $58.
Intel boards available to buy here, ETA 1-3 days: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Intel.html
Hi guys.....i didn't wait for dfi or albatron, and today i have bought an Intel Bad Axe Rev3.04 & Crucial Ballistix ddr2 800 Cas4-4-4 :D
I wait them...and later my Conroe E6700 on Phase Change:D
Byez :banana:
I've noticed a trend. All the boards with the new 975X logo support Conroe, but it's not visa-versa. I really can't decide between an P965 and RD600. Good thing I don't have to decide now.
Don't make that assumtion un-less you owned the board. My old Asrock Dual sata II board did 320 HTT on my 165 Opteron just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by stealthbomber
Im in the sameboat as you. THe GA-965P-DQ6 looks great, but I have a feeling its gonna cost an arm or a leg :(.Quote:
Originally Posted by SupaMan
All the Conroe chipsets look good on paper. The question is, which will have the best board. Of all the currently existing Conroe boards, the P5B-Deluxe looks like the best balence of features and clean layout. I've always been attarcted to ASUS's Deluxe boards, not Premiums, but I've never had either.
I could get an RD600, P965, 975X, or 590 for Conroe. To me, it comes down to the boards, not the chipset. I read somewhere that Intel isn't ever going to succeed the 975X. That would kind of make me feel like I'm getting a dying breed.
Fake :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by keiths
lol not fake, he even got it certified by cpuz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nazu
it's just a bug in the software
Hello
What is the main difference between 975 and 965 chipset? I know people say 975 is 'top chipset' but in what way? Isn't 965 cheaper? I want a good OC board but I'm pretty tight with money (I think I spend round 200 $ max on a mobo), is there any mobos you guys recommend or shall I wait when more mobos arrive? In addition it would be good if had raid 0,1 +5 and support for quad cpus aswell!
I started a thread with the same question... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=104938
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Originally Posted by celerity
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=105221
2 more to add
I remember reading the i975x is going to be like the 440bx and work for years with just small revisions. I'd guess the 965 would too, but less PCI-E lanes, no crossfire AND with the ICH8.
if there any preview for release date of nf5 mobo ?
where are the 965 boards? it's almost july 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pied
The oficial date will be together with conroe so you can expect 27/07.
The 945 is coming on monday 04/07 specially made for budget people.
I think this is the one that is coming first.Quote:
Originally Posted by lionel57000
http://www.bbk.ac.uk/~jdeso03/hardware/dfimobo.jpg
I'm thinking in buying the new P5W DH, it is a good motherboard, it has a lot of features and usefull things like EZ backup, free Wi-Fi and a nice dolby master sound, but I'm not sure yet.
Since the DFI will outperform the 975x in some benchmarks that will be quite difficult to choose between them. Asus is all the way with conroe, but with weak tests made by Intel 590 reference until now, it shows that 975x really is the way to go right now with unproved 590 bechmarks. I'm waiting for clear and closer results with the DFI Intel 590 edition and then decided between them. I wonder when Hexus will really show us the true 590 benchmarks with a strong brand reference as DFI it is, maybe it is a lack of time for them (Hexus) make just a simple bechmark test. They should give it to me. :D
Anyway waiting for really strong benchmarks between 35% of advantage between the old(NF4) and new chip7(NF5).
The main points are:
http://www.bbk.ac.uk/~jdeso03/hardware/nforce5.jpg
The main technical points are:
http://www.bbk.ac.uk/~jdeso03/hardware/nforce51.jpg
The NForce 5 has good features like TCP/IP Acceleration, First Packet and it is Vista capable.
That Lanparty looks SWEET... UV too right?
I just don't know with the Nvidia chipset... weak, at least on current Intel... Don't care for SLI wan't Minimum decent OC capabilities.
Price range on that? When?
Yeah, sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by cupholder2.0
I think I'll probably go with DS4 unless the reviews show 12 phase power makes a difference over the 9 phase.
Quote:
Originally Posted by FLMJIGGY
Yes it is UV with a higher overclock capability. As I have read so far NVidia got the right process as it is with AMD and I'm sure Intel 590 made by DFI will be the fastest motherboard in graphics and instability outperforming 975x chip7 in many benchmarks, but do not expect early than 10 of August, as for the people that thinks 590 will be a disappointment for overclockers, they will all be wrong.
Working in a long term process NVidia has done a great progress with the NF5 but it all depends of the manufactures, DFI know about what Conroe can give to people in terms of overcloking and that for me and for many will be the most successful 2006 motherboard for enthusiastic people.
Price will be around 180£ 260$ on launch.
DFI or Asus for the 590. Have to see what either of them manage to do for the thing. And then after chipset tweaking by both and how that turns out, one has to factor in the 6 phase digital vs 8 phase analog power system.
I'm not yet sure that oc'ing is going to be stable (it wasn't really good on the NF4 with the same memory controller, but did they tweak the controller a bit?). And I do not know how well the whole package will perform against the 975, taking away the SLI factor. And further will 590 support Kentsfield? It would be a definite bonus to the 975 series to be able to just drop in Kentsfield and all gain all that chip offers.
Jury is still out on so many things, that the 590 has a lot to prove. It's not entirely a slam dunk really, but we shall see.
Some people said the new memory controller is coming in the first quarter.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Anemone
But it all depends of the manufactures to adopt the same as we have with AM2.
I'm saying they might use the MC19 XE instead of MC19.
Really that is what we will see with reviews.Quote:
And further will 590 support Kentsfield?
That is a great advantage over 590 if not supported kentsfield in it.Quote:
It would be a definite bonus to the 975 series to be able to just drop in Kentsfield and all gain all that chip offers.
If they were able to improve the mem controller, would be a big plus, clearly.
Yep Kentsfield testing is key, prolly have to rely on XS folks for that :)
Again, testing testing testing
Quote:
Originally Posted by SupaMan
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=105352
This other board good too, but looks like its missing a few featurs compared with DS4. I just hope they all OC good.
I hope that will be a great month.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Anemone
Quote:
Originally Posted by cupholder2.0
The great point in this motherboard (GA - 965 P - DS3) is that inside the CH8 comes together many installed drivers that supports Vista premium as we can see in the box VISTA READY instead of vista capable as we see on 975x chipsets..
Therefore all the 965 will come with the same function. It differs as well on performance that is less than the high end motherboard 975x. I can not understand why they have not done a 975x with the CH8 instead of CH7, maybe could be to reduce costs, being able to compete the market with many other chipsets around.
975x with ich8 is probably going to fuel the "midway boards" before the chipset upgrade roundup in mid 2007..
Are there any informations about DFI RD600 mobo and which would be better DFI nForce 590 SLI Intel Edition or RD600 and when are those mobos expected for sale in Europe?
BTW-Sorry for oftopic: Are there Intel Core 2 Duo (Conroe) procesors for sale anywere in Europe and how much do they cost?
Quote:
Originally Posted by X-S!D3
First of all welcome to Xtreme Systems.
Second both RD600 and 590 will be great boards but I insist that RD600 will be better in many ways.
Quote:
BTW-Sorry for oftopic: Are there Intel Core 2 Duo (Conroe) procesors for sale anywere in Europe and how much do they cost?
Third Yes we have in sale on many places in Europe
Conroe Pre order link 1 link 2
Enjoy the forum it helps a lot.
Thanks, i realy like this forum!
i just pre-rdered my e6600, i wish some u.s. sites would put up p965 pre-orders too
I think 965 might be the way to go if you don´t plan on doing CrossFire or SLI. On 975 mobos, haven´t seen a great one yet, hope Abit can do the job.
Kinda like the nf ultra was a great chipset for 939 and we didn't need the sli boards for great OCing...
Regarding abit... i dunno. Really upset on the Intel abit boards. Now that they have all this trouble behind them maybe they can focus on working better.
They have also lost alot of talent within the years.
Don't know if someone said it before, but at www.overclocker.co.uk have the revision v2.0 of the MSI 975X Platinum arriving middle July 2006, as usually, pre-order by now.
Don't you mean overclockers.co.uk buddy? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FEEXX
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...e_MSI_204.html
:) Ouch! sorry about that.
Has anyone got any news on DFI's MATX board?
DFI MATX CFX1150/G
Not connie ready. UGLY
More mobos are in stores...
it isn't out yet, and it will be conroe ready, but it will probably be uglyQuote:
Originally Posted by FLMJIGGY
I didn't see the model #... I thought it was the one out right now... It was late when I posted... heh heh
P5W DH Deluxe Back IN Stock @ Newegg..... finally ordered mine!!!
yup they sure are,
buy em quick guys before they jack the price up!!
DFI Infinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136168
Junkabyte 965
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128012
As mentioned above
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131025
I've decided to wait till end of august before i by a mobo, by then hopefully all conroe mobos will be out, right?
Then i can just read the reviews and pick the best mobo at my leisure!
Whaaah that Infinity is expensive, I only paid $266AU for mine :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by FLMJIGGY
I see there is a Intel 965 board coming out that is supposedly on $120 if pre-ordered. How well is the regular intel stuff doing with overclocks?
woah.. the gigabyte is 145 ? that sure doesnt look like the 12phase power version.
maybe its just me but the pictures ive seen before sure looked like there were more 'fets that those pictures show.
It's the DS3 not the DQ6.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Updated the availability list, but it's hard because i don't know how availability is at the diffirent continents...
And having a job now in the vacantion to earn some money for my conroe rig :)
You say P5B is available ? I have not seen anything about that (someone have a Deluxe ES, but that's all)
That will be tough Skyline!!! :p:Quote:
Updated the availability list, but it's hard because i don't know how availability is at the diffirent continents...
Availability will probably vary greatly througout world...;)
I also looked at the list and didn't see the above Junkabyte listed...
Instead these are listed:
# GA-965P-DS4 -P965 - ATX - Available
# GA-965P-DQ6 - P965 - ATX - Available
I don't know if those are available... you would know better!!!
so which board does everyone think is the best to go for? I need to grab one ASAP.
I am not qualified to state which board is "the best" to buy (I dont think anyone is), but I am pretty sure which 975X board that OC's well is the best value by far, at least in AU, and that is the DFI Infinity 975X/G that cost me only $266AU :fact: :banana::slobber: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by neologan
I think this may be the board to partner my E6700 with, i def want as many tweakable options in bios as possible, besides, this first board will just be a stop gap until something better comes along.Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
So unless anyone wants to tell why NOT to get the DFI, i'll grab one tomorrow :toast:
Infinity is usually a mid tier for DFI. Might work well I dunno. If I had to choose... I would probably go for the Asus. If I had to choose from the CURRENT list available.
but it still seems to have a ton of bios options as shown here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=103025
whats so great about the Asus, and which model?
Thanks.
damn it, the gigabyte -DS3 is so stripped down and still $145... the -DS4 is prolly gonna be like 180 and the -DQ6 200+
BALLS
DQ6 - http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/19645
:mad:
:wierd:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Yeah, just posted that in the other thread. Wtf is with this stupid pricing :(.
greed my friend pure and simple greed...
and that board will NEVER sell for that unless they have a bios update or something else that lets it hit 600 FSB.. otherwise its worse than the P5W DH
the last bios update took it to 360 fsb but thats it.
havent seen any new info on it
The DS3 is $275.00 while it sell for $145 on neweggQuote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/19646
They Ask $400 for the P5W DH
http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/19606
$299 for the P5B
http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/19448
$399 for the P5B Deluxe
http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/19451
Now I know us Aus Money, but it's still a total ripoff.
actually, if you convert currencies and compare prices between stores (that store is pretty overpriced) it looks like the P5B might be around $160. Thats what I'm looking for.
149$ should be the price of the P5B. Maybe a bit more at start (under $170)
this site ask $225us for it :p:
The first company that can put out a board that goes to 400 FSB without a lot of trouble and is under $180 is getting my business. Maybe P5B, maybe not, we'll see :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vric
the MSI P965 Neo will cost about 100€...:stick: