Uhhh if the IHS is on, you won't be able to supply that many volts without kicking temps way past 50c, which at those speeds means instantaneous error.
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Uhhh if the IHS is on, you won't be able to supply that many volts without kicking temps way past 50c, which at those speeds means instantaneous error.
Ok
I gues it is not worth it
So iwont do it.
And about the IHS
I screwed few 144 taking the ihs off, cause cracked the core,
what can you do to prevent that??
by the waterblock
Got my CPU from Absolute_0 today and threw it in and cranked it up...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...pteron1463.jpg
ihs on or off? what kind of load temps you get with 1.62v ??
just wondering how long it can survive :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by dz`
My IHS-less opty 148 from thebeast, very pleased with it considering my meagre clocking skills.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57...s/PCmark04.jpg
..........
Dont you think most people in this thread have something similar already? :p:
no JUST WOUNDERING,
sOME PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN BUYING MORE
Didnt think selling outside the FS section was allowed, but nevermind.
Final summary before selling it :toast:
these tests are realised under chiller, with liquid at -24°C CPU around 14°C
i've tested to find cold bug, apparently it was at 5°C for 420Mhz HTT, then it's possible to improve this result...
WR Max screen 3657.8Mhz :
Valid 3657.8Mhz
Screen 3657.8Mhz
It can bench at 3480Mhz (liquid at -22°C) but i think was limited by the memory to have problem with high frequancy..
CPUMark 3480Mhz
Boot at 3.54Ghz, then probably possible to bench over 3500Mhz with this cooling
Boot Ã:banana: 3537Mhz
stabilized at 3350Mhz for -22 to liquid
OCCT Strable 3348Mhz
aircooled : ambiant temp around 14°C
Prime Stable 2700Mhz for 5H40 1.2v slow speed cooling
Prime Stable 2808Mhz for 7H52 1.248v medium speed cooling
Prime stable 2906Mhz for 5H49 1.280v full speed cooling
420 CPUMark at 3215Mhz 1.472v
SuperPI at 3194Mhz 1.472v
aircooled : ambiant temp around 6°C
Max screen 3460Mhz 1.6v
Validation 3460Mhz
Boot at 3339Mhz 1.6v
OCCT Stable 3058Mhz 1.376v
436 CPUMark 3310Mhz
Nah I was wondering becuase im getting load temps over 50 @ 1.53v with my xp-120 and 93cfm fan (which in my eyes is like top 5 in aircooling setups). Thinking I might have to pop the lid to at least redo the paste between IHS and the core.Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
That 146 ugp has loads in the high 40s with 1.62v and aircooling. It's the coolest running Opteron i've seen.
HI guys
I'm just wondering Opty 144, 146 babies overclocked at FX 55, 57 speed, they really perform like their overpriced brothers? Is there any bench or comparison test?(video encode, game test)
I really need to know before I move on to Opty???PLZ
Performance between FX and Opties at teh same speed is identical.
Have you ever compared your Opty's with FX benchmark?
my personal comparison doesn't change the fact i just stated. You can doubt me, but anybody here will back it up. Only thing the FXs got is unlocked multis, possibly better memory controllers.
Sure the fx is a hot one but i'd rather go buy a opteron. But besides this i wanna know the lowest temp anyone reached with a removed IHS + watercooling on a opteron 146. I've been as low as 14 celsius but the normal idle temperature is 19-21.
http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?i...aked1464ry.jpg
I'm new here so i haven't been able to follow up other thread's.
Hi All
Well i thought my CABNE0545 did ok for 2980Mhz on 1.525v but the CACJE 0601 I picked up is far better with 2900MHz at the mo on 1.30v
May put it under the prommie when done but even on air cooling(Folding at home fully stable at 35deg C)Have full stability on P95,3d2001-2006 but havent tried OCCT yet.
Smiffy
He is correct:p: He would know sice I bought this Opteron from him:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
Here is another screen to add...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...46/SiSoft3.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...CMark-6188.jpg
...................
killer_pav :
you have PM.
no-one is interested ... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by killer_pav
i'm interested in a 146, reaching 3ghz @ MAX 1.5vCore ;) (aircooled)
3ghz @ 1.6vcore is almost usual nowadays ;)
But mine runs cool:hump:Quote:
Originally Posted by brechtvm
just to share my nice opty146 which was sold on last month
1.6vCore is too much for 24/7 usage, imo ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
:eek: :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
that's what i like :D
1.6v won't hurt a thing. I have run 1.66v 24/7 for months... other people have used 1.7v 24/7 with no ill effects.
on 'air' ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
imo : max + 0.1 vCore for 24/7 use
Max is +.1?
Default is 1.36
so you mean 1.46? Because that's pretty weak.
i thought opteron had a stock vCore of 1.4vQuote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
so.. 1.5v
(that 0.04v won't make a great difference ;))
Some fresh results :D
CPU Max Screen @1.81V = 3444MHz chiller CPU@6°C | http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=76935
http://www.beforeoverclock.com/images/cpu-3443.jpg
StressCPU
10 000 Iterations
27.03s - 3181MHz@1.65V
http://www.beforeoverclock.com/image...U10000_27S.jpg
CPUMark99
421 - 3200MHz@1.65V
http://www.beforeoverclock.com/image...CPUMARK421.jpg
Super PI
1M
27.734s - 3200MHz@1.65V - BH5 @267MHz 1.5-2-2-6 3.7V
http://www.beforeoverclock.com/image...25s%5b2%5d.jpg
But you don't have mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
DFI RDX200
Mushkin Redline 2GB
OCZ 520w
X1900XT
OPTERON 148 CABGE0546TPMW "0067"
Thermaltake BIG TYPHOON
Just playing today, 1.6v by DMM. CPU does 3ghz @ 1.49v by DMM, loading @ 34c. It will go higher than this, i'm sure.
noobisch question :Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
DMM = ?
(if i ask it, i wont stay a noob.. if i dont ask it, i will stay a noob ;))
Digital Multi-Meter
Digital Multi Meter ;)
Irrelevant. 1.6v by DMM, but 1.45v in windows. Seeing as we are using 1.6v windows reading, it cannot be compared to a 1.45v windows reading.Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
Plus you claim 34c, screenshot clearly shows 38c, what are you trying to prove??
lol you don't know what you are talking about. 1.58 by windows...CPU-z is wrong. I was @ 3.1ghz, 1.6v, as shown by systool. i wish i got 3.1ghz on air w/1.45v. Lol. That's a good one.
I just started prime, back @ 1.48 and 3ghz.load temp is 32c.
Got anything else you'd like me to run?..prime95 generates abt teh most heat:nono:
Just got started on a CABNE 0530APMW (afireinside's old cpu) topless on water
AQX MP-05, 50Z, 120.3 MP-01 w/ 6800gs
Runs hot but OC's like hell.... Ambient temp 22C.
I capped this screen after an hour but let it run till morning...after which I
forgot to get another screenie.... :rolleyes:
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/146prime3ghz.jpg
Now that's a nice one gocchin...got that mastercard for me yet? lol
And that's on water? wowzers.
Here's anothert screen, using uptodate CPU-z just for absolute0
Hey, dont say i dont know what i'm talking about, i get thrown off when your CPUZ readings are wrong...Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
Plus, i dont have a hard time believing in 3.1 Ghz with 1.45v
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...e/df75c679.jpg
With higher load temps... watercooled and IHS removed. Honestly i think your reported temps are as wrong as your CPUZ voltage readings.
uh, read the post up, guy. what would you like me to run? I'm on air...BTW, not water.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
How old are you? Just wondering.
natural typhoon?>Peltier > water >air
I know you are on airQuote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
But let me tell you the facts
Aircooling + 1.6v doesn't equal 32c load
therefore
your reported temps are wrong
You can call me a stupid immature idiot... everybody will agree with me... 32c on air with 1.6v, as a loaded temperature, implies either a bad read, or 12c ambients.
1.5v :nono:
read the posts again.
ambient is 17c.
idk, it's hard to read your screenshots - your second one is a blurry mess
So far i'm getting, aircooled ->
1.6v --> 38c load
1.5v --> 32c load
Anyone who has done tests with a real temp. guage will tell you how far off the readings are, but whatever floats your boat :)
before i popped the top, temps were 15c higher.
replaced the goop with as5, re-attached the IHS, temps are as they are now.
it drops off quickly after 3ghz....3.1 @ 1.6, 1.65 for 3150.
What i'm having a hard time believing is 32c load with 1.5v
In my screenshot i posted, i'm using 1.45v, i'm loading at 34c. My cooling is custom watercooling strapped tightly to a naked core.
Less voltage, far superior cooling, direct die contact, +2c? Doesn't make sense
(similar room temps)
That's all i have to say, enough arguing for now. We all know that these temp monitors are all way off.
LoL. okay. Serial number of this chip is "0067"
According to same tool you use, but on RDX, rather than nf4 DFI, max temp reported is 34c.
According to that serial #, it's close to the center of the wafer...I picked this cpu out of abt 400, looking for this low number. When the rest of my kit arrives, I'll put it under both water and phase, and we will see how it goes. I just think i got lucky, you can think what you want. I just thought I'd share.
what does your serial number end with? Maybe this would be info that could lend to confirmation or denail of said claim.
would you like me to put a probe next to die? what would you like? I can do any of this, so we can compare cpu's. I tihnk this is a good show as to what AMD is capable of. You seem to think it's abt more than that.
Quote:
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.16
----------------------
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 148 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 3000.01 (300.00 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C
TDP: 67.6 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83
well good temps anyway
Mine in screenshot is the best Opteron out of 5 week 47s
batch 0246. Better than 0112, 0133, 0150, 0351.
We would have to know exactly how that number works i think...it could be a spiral outwards from center, or left/right...maybe there is jumps in numbers for cpu's next to one another. With enough info, it should be easy to figure out. Would have made my handpicking easier! maybe many numbers are the same...close ot center, one side of center is better...I am sure they check this to calibrate lens.
i am not so sure lower is better anymore
here is my thread
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=88600
pics are dead but you can stillread my posts
like i said, spiral pattern amy explain the difference. make a to-size pic of a wafer with numbers in spiral, and you see what i mean. I bet with enough numbers, we could even place the machine it was fabbed with.
Just messing around with Windows XP 64-Bit Edition...
Here is a quick SuperPi run with my Opteron 146...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...ndows64-28.jpg
Opty 146 CABYE 0540 FPAW
Mushkin BH-5s
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/3...tbh53ju.th.jpg
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/4...3ghz0ok.th.jpg
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/4...dlod0cg.th.jpg
19K is all you get in 3DMark03?
What are you scores in 01 and 05?
Yep, running the x1900xtx at stock at the moment.
seem to have lost my 01 screenie, gonna do a run in a bit :)
anyhow, heres 3dmark05:
http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/8...peed0az.th.jpg
did you log temps in ati tool mac and if so what did they get up to in 3d05. if you didnt could you poss run again with temp logging? pwiddy pweese
@1.225vgpu and 2.086vmem, 20C ambient temp, my max temp running 3dmark05 was 68C. idle was ~40CQuote:
did you log temps in ati tool mac and if so what did they get up to in 3d05. if you didnt could you poss run again with temp logging? pwiddy pweese
well nothing to special to report here.
run @ 2.7, 2.8, and 2.9,
Can't finish 3Dmark 01-06 @ 2.9, but ram memtest for 11 hours.
scored 14K on 03 @2.8
scored 32K on 01 @2.8
need to work on stability @2.9, don't know if I can hit 3GHz.
Have yet to run pi, but ran F@H for 20hours @2.7, @100%CPU
on stock cooling thats pretty awesome. seems like the temps dont go up that much until the vgpu rises above 1.4. (from what ive seen)Quote:
Originally Posted by macg
a little off topic, so i wont ask anymore...
That is about right...is that stock or 690/800 in ATI CCC?Quote:
Originally Posted by macg
All my benchies have been at max in ATI CCC...
yep, i keep mine below 1.4v with the stock cooler, i hate having it sound like a jet engine lol.Quote:
on stock cooling thats pretty awesome. seems like the temps dont go up that much until the vgpu rises above 1.4. (from what ive seen)
a little off topic, so i wont ask anymore...
3dmark 01 @ stock (forgot to open up ati tool :()
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/511...kxtx5ls.th.jpg
and heres a 20K run of 3dmark '03, still at stock xtx speeds
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/6...kxtx7wg.th.jpg
It's at stock, and im using ATI Tool, disabled ATI CCC :)Quote:
That is about right...is that stock or 690/800 in ATI CCC?
All my benchies have been at max in ATI CCC...
How is everyone doing with 06 chips?
My 06 chip does 3.0 and the contact on the IHS is awesome!
144 CAB2E 0546 UPMW = 2.8ghz prime stable @ 1.55v.
CACJE 0604 CPAW
batch #0103
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/112/146290ui.th.jpg
1.472v stable too (down from 1.504 from SS above)
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/171/14614723ny.th.jpg
just ordered a 146 from monarch. hope i get a good stepping, gonna really test this thing out on my new water system that im setting up one my stuff comes in the nest couple days
The new Opteron 146s have great IHS contact on the inside...I think AMD finally noticed that half of them were really crappy and fixed this issue...I have no issues running mine at v1.6 on air cooling 24/7
I've some CPUs of this stepping to pretest; didn't test with less or more volts, but 3GHz@1.51V is pretty good actually :)
http://www.beforeoverclock.com/image...I32M24M14S.jpg
I just got one of these back from AMD on RMA seems to be about average the 146 it replaced did 3.1GHz no prob :(Quote:
Originally Posted by before
3.1 Ghz is way above average for a 146
Ya, my old one CAB2E 0540FPMW did 3.1GHz on air, the one AMD sent me is a CACJE 0603FPMW, but it's about average.
What's your highest stable clock with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21
sure :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
I havn't really messed with it, I have an FX-57 for overclocking, but its running now at 2.8GHz with stock volts.
I have played with one other CACJE it was a 0545APAW i think. did 2.92GHz with stock volts, suicide at 3.2GHz, but I didnt like how it acted. If it was unstable in Super Pi it would just lock up instead of throwing an error. And cold bug kicked in at 10C really bad
Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
I completely agree with this, I don't know what they did, but my 06 chip idles at 31C compared to about 45C for my 0540
yeap my 0540 is IHS-less and the temps are awesome...........i never saw it go past 44C even with 1.65v and past 3.1GHz on airQuote:
Originally Posted by Bob21
Yep I popped the lid on my 0540 too and temps wend down by seriously 20C!!
But it died and I put the IHS back on and RMA'd it ;)
That is evil lol...so evil...did the RMA work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21
Yes, and I do not feel guilty because the IHS being removed had nothing to do with the chips death.
running my cabne IHS less to.. dropped 6C on load ;)
on a side note, ugp, we almost have the same specs lol :) only our.. PSU's differ
Yeah I see that...also you are running a RAID 0 with Raptors...hopefully this deal with trading my Opteron 150 and some cash for two 36GB Raptors goes through and I can have my RAID system.Quote:
Originally Posted by macg
Its suprising how much faster some 10K rpm SATA drives can make your system feel :toast:
Oh I know man...I know with this one 74GB Raptor...it loads XP up 4 times as fast as the SATA2 drives I have used in the past...
With this one drive I get 57MB/s transfer rate...
I want to play with a RAID system now...I have never setup a RAID before...
Ya, you should be up to about 95MB/s maybe more with the 36gigers in raid0. pretty snappy in windows.
I ended up polishing my drives too, looks pretty sweet.
Ok, after 3 weeks tweaking, here's my Opty 146 and 2Gb Gskill PC4000 HZ's....
Interestingly, couldn't do this at 290x10.. failed Prime in minutes. 323x9 - no prob.... Go figure
Prime stable. Not had time to run Memtest.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...gskillcpuz.jpg
I'm sure I can get more... just need time (and help!) to achieve it... :)
This Chip had the worst contact with the IHS, once removed it drop 15oC under Load, it couldnt do 3Ghz before.:D
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/825...t273mhz0bz.jpg
CAB2E 0604EPAW
Batch #245ish
2.9 ghz @ stock voltage
http://www.johnshim.com/forums/xtrem...epaw2hours.jpg
Can someone explain the 'batch' thing?
Batch really doesn't matter, its just the exact batch the CPU came from, kinda like a batch of rolls on a pan in the oven, or cookies.
And how can i recognize it on my chip?
Another question:
I bought an opti 146 CACJE 0601GPAW.
It is going up to 2.75 with default vcore but it is getting very hot. 60+ degrees.
Stock air of course for that.By removing IHS & stock cooling will i have better results with this voltage? What temperature shall i expect?
San Diego cores are cooler than Optis (and Venice is cooler than Opti two at the same MHz...)?
EDIT: 3-13-06 Re-Ran 3DMark 05 Provided Link - also re-ran 01 link provided
| Opty 148 Cabne 0528 GPMW batch#0253 cooled w\ Mach I "PC Ice Modified" IHS Still Intact|
| DFI Ultra D >6-23 bios|
| Mushkin Redline XP4000 (2x512)|
| Sapphire X1900XTX w\DD waterblock|
| 2x Hitachi 80gb Sata II Raid 0 |
| OCZ 520w Power Stream |
Prime 8hrs @3412mghz>Taken with Digi-Cam:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b8...s/Prime8hr.jpg
Super Pi 32m @3565mhz; Ram@254mhz 2-2-2-5 1T :
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b8...uperPi32m5.jpg
Super Pi 1m @3619mhz: Ram@241mhz 2-2-2-5 1T (This run was not optimized) :
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b8...619mhzPi1m.jpg
3DMark01@3651mhz! :slobber: ; Ram@260mhz 2-2-2-5 1T; VC @ 774c_873m :
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b8...74c_873m3b.jpg
3DMark 05 @3651mghz; Ram @260mhz 2-2-2-5 1T : VC @ 774c_873m :
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b8...74c_873mb3.jpg
SS Shot @ 3740mhz :
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b8...UzVerified.jpg
3DMark 01 45,516 > http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8924615
3DMark 05 14,522 > http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1875812
Phase
Hey Phase, welcome. Nice set of screens.
146 Opteron CABYE 0540FPBW 9x330 vcore 1.4 + 104% (bios)
Memory OCZ 2GB PC-4000 Platinum EB @ 270MHz 3-3-2-7
DFI SLI-DR bios 623-3
Watercooled
Primestable: yes
3D-stable: yes
Phase those are very nice clocks on the opteron :toast: Your scores should be higher though as you mentioned. Try lod +3.0 for nature in 2001 get those superpi times were they belong. One of the highest clocks ive seen though !!
Family man 72 can you do that clocks with 10 multi?
@coop
Thanks for the welcome. That is an excellent Super Pi 32m run by the way.Quote:
Hey Phase, welcome. Nice set of screens.
@loc.o
Thanks! Yea this 148 is another Cabne monster, benching 3D @3651mhz is higher than I first thought it would go. The Super Pi 1m was just a test to see how high it would run it at. 3DMark 01 is another story... I will try the LOD after a fresh install, this install is already showing signs of slowing down. I also would like to re-run Super Pi... I know there is more left in this Opty...Quote:
Phase those are very nice clocks on the opteron Your scores should be higher though as you mentioned. Try lod +3.0 for nature in 2001 get those superpi times were they belong. One of the highest clocks ive seen though !!
NOTE: Posted new 3DMark 05 SS and provided ORB link. *Post # 4840 above*
Edit: 3-13-06
@loc.o
Thank you for the suggestion. :toast:
Check out the new 01 score in my post above.
I have not tested yet 1:1 with 10 multi. I will try later :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
But I know that EB:s are stable at least till 273 MHz. Even 3D-stable.
I haven't seen many 06 144's, so I thought I post some quick results with the one I received today. Just getting started with this: CACJE 0602 GPMW. At stock vcore, 9x295, over 1hr prime stable. Had bump vcore to 1.425, 9x312, still running prime, currently at about 1 1/2 hours. That's 2.8ghz at just over stock voltage. Not bad for $150 :D I'm sure there's still more in it. I remember when that would be an amazing overclock for a 3000. These opty's have really raised the bar. Just about done for tonight, will try and get some screenshots up tomorrow.
EDIT: Still trying to find the max of this chip. Here is 1 hour of prime at 2.9ghz. Memory is on 100 divider just to rule it out. Going to stop it now and crank 'er up some more.
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/5493/9x3229vo.th.jpg
UPDATE: 3.0ghz 32m @ 1.475v :D Failed prime after 15 min. Raised vcore to 1.525, LTD to 1.3, CHIPSET to 1.6. Currently priming--passed 26min so far, this might be stable. 1.2ghz overclock with air cooling :woot:
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9000/9x3345wg.th.jpg