Thanks for clearing this out. :)
Does the overvolting also happen with newer 903/907 bios?
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Thanks for clearing this out. :)
Does the overvolting also happen with newer 903/907 bios?
The over volting happens on every bios, as far as I know...?
Hey guys Anandtech may have discovered the reason for cpu throttling at high currents in Prime some have described with this board. It may be your processor, not this board. They experienced the same thing with a QX9650.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3184&p=4
Good info there.. Thanks for the link! :up:
I needed to bump CPU, NB, and SB all up 1 notch with 0907 to get 1hr OCCT stable. I had to bump the SB because even after it was OCCT stable, I would get lockups in games. Bumped the SB volts 1 notch and all was well.Quote:
Originally Posted by iadstudio
I am def seeing better numbers in Everest benchmark.Quote:
Originally Posted by pazza316
Yes it does, .1 volts. Set for 2.18 get 2.28.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
Quote:
Originally Posted by WFO
HA. could explain some of my problems on this board that I wasn't seeing on my 680i. I have to run my processor at 1.64+ to get it stable at 3.75ghz. It looks like this board will let me go beyond that, but not stable because of the increased voltage I need. I am having some luck with a 10x multi at 375 right now. Most settings are the same but I bumped the cpu pll voltage to 1.62 and dropped down to the 333 strap.
The 10x multi being most stable on this chip is what I've found with every board I plugged it into. I guess I'm stuck with that for now and I'll have to max the chip out that way.
Also, it seems my temps are substantially lower with the 333 strap. is this possible or am I not noticing an environmental variable or something?
Update: it is definately a strap issue. I ran Orthos stable for 1.5 hours on the 333 strap at 380x10. switched to the 400 strap and blue screen 10 seconds into windows. I'm testing 385 now and things look promising. Now if someone could explain to me what the 333 to 400 strap stability difference is occuring, I might just learn something from this whole ordeal. ;)
I've just "upgraded" from 802 to 907. Found out the hard way that saved settings from 802 don't work in 907. Oh and yea, you can't back flash from 907 to 802. tried everything down to AFUDOS, no luck. Says bios is older version, end of story...
But would someone please please please tell me why I cant get this board to run at 1T command rate???
I'm at fsb = 404, mult=10 transaction booster disabled (0), (only way it will boot), static read control disabled. 4-4-4-10 which is real conservative at these settings. memory passes all memtest86 tests, but cpuz still reads 2T command rate (set to 1T in bios). Setting to 2T or auto in bios gives identical bandwidths in everest and sandra.
TIA
nm,
But 0907 is a bit slower than 0903 with same settings, isn`t it?
For me it went down from 10k read everest to 9,9k and latency a bit up.
Got my HR-05 IFX SLI and HR-09 S/U Type 2 today and will try out mounting it tomorrow. With hairdrier and OCCT before I want to warm up old heatsink, that must be enough, or?
are u sure cant downgrade? have u read the maxmimus part 2 thread which teach u how to downgrade from 0903 to other old version of bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by nuclearjock
It does indeed explain how to downgrade.
I'm really begining to like 907 alot, so is my ram.
First of teh 9 series to be stable for me
Grnfinger, have you tested OCCT CPU with lower vCore yet?
Does anyone know of good guides to overclocking for a first timer?
I want to go further then the cpu level up which is just up to 3ghz on bios 903 but also dont want to burn a hole in cpu.
Or does anyone have any settings they would recommend for my system?
Thanks
I have my DDR2 800's @ 1200MHZ @ 2.0V measuring 2.1 in Everest. Should I clock it down or is this okay. I ran prime for 18hours and no crash . Could this be dangerous? 907 FTW !!!
Yes... I had to raise to 1.425 for stability, 4 hours OCCT stable and still running prime (10 hours) now, no errorsQuote:
Originally Posted by kup
I would also like to add that on bios 907 my read write and latency are better
temps are 58-57-53-54 everest
No as almost all of the Ballistix (tracers or not, DDR2 800 or DDR2 1066) use the same D9 chips. If they test stable, then you should be fine. Just put a fan over them to keep them cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by leoftw
I think you have a competitor there for my Team Xtreems. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by leoftw
Are these the DIMMs you speak of?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146565
I'm in the market for some RAM that'll run 500fsb no problem.
I prefer the 1066's as this guarantees 500 FSB. But those should be able to do it. I also highly suggest looking into OCZ Reaper series.
Id get the Ballistix PC8500 over any DDR2. Good mem and cheap nowadays.Quote:
Originally Posted by iadstudio
1) System fails to post with Dual-Channel mode enabled, I have to remove 1 stick of memory to get it to post (I remove one, It posts, Then I have to power off just right and place that one back in and pray it posts)
2) Abnormal Chipset and memory voltage ripples, Isolated at Chipset or EPU technology (If You don't know about these, Look at my older posts about Abnormal voltages.)
3) Becomes highly unstable at high FSB speeds (Basiclly anything past 1730mhz)
I'm using the new 0907 bios and Just tested all these with my new Antec 1000W power supply, and My Die-Hard 680W power supply. and still get these problems
Hopefully there is a Recall on the Maximus and the replacement motherboard for it is the Rampage :P
Hi all
I got little problem or may be im missing something
My Vcore runs only in Auto mode. If I set Vcore to any figure on manual it just won’t boot at all. I flashed bios from retail (402?) to 802 but still have same problem.
Great espiso, I will unpack tomorrow my Maximus and start to test it:D, very curiouse how it would work out, maybe make some pics , would be nice:DQuote:
Originally Posted by eSp!s0
Hmmz still dont know if I should install which bios, 0907? or 0903? and is there a way to flash it back to any older version? lol
Where can i buy this board!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:shrug: :shrug:
SE=gone unless some stores still have stock.
I can get 10x multi stable on my chip but if I lower the multi I can not get the chip/board stable at higher speeds. I'm pretty sure its the chip, too because I can boot at 420or even 450 no problem, but if I Try to load the cpu it crashes. Either way, if I want to OC a quadcore Yorkfiled I'll need faster memory, but who knows what kind of fsb clocks will be possible with the Q9450.
I think I might order those Crucial 1066. The Reapers look good too, but I think the heatpipes might get in the way of my OCZ fan. Can anyone confirm this?
I'm going to takesome time this weekend with OCCT and some voltage graphs to see where my lower multi, higher fsb OCs are failing.
Take a look at this anandtech article, has some great general info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krav
Quote:
Originally Posted by iadstudio
Consider it confirmed, reaper modules are too tall for the OCZ ram cooler. the CAS3 reapers ahve been selling for cheap lately...:up:
hi guys, i have this nice mobo with an E6850 and OCZ FlexXLC PC2-9200 on it.
i'm looking for a daily use config, and actually it seems to be stable on 3.8Ghz (475x8) with 1.40Vcore, and with ram on 5:6 570mhz at stock Vdimm.
temps of the cores are both 60°C after 4hours of OCCT, while it is 25°C in idle.
but i want to ask if i have to worry about the 1900mhz Rated FSB that comes out with this config.
well, depends on what you want to worry about..whether it has an effect on the board's longevity, whether it affects ram life or cpu life..you need to be a bit clearer...
BUT FYI, I run the same clocks. If something dies..well..it dies...60c should be fine, anyway.
i don't think they will recall the board because you are having problems :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Warboy
if you think the board is faulty RMA it and stop throwing your toys out of the pram.
Get a regular Maximus Formula and I'll gladly sell you my mobo's fusion block cooling solution. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
I have two MCW30's on both chipsets. To be honest with you guys, the best cooling solution for this board is water. Intel didn't put an IHS on that northbridge for nothing; and my southbridge sometimes gets warmer than my northbridge so I'd highly recommend water for anyone looking to clock into the high fsbs on this board; well, unless you wanna freeze your ass by cracking the window all the time.
non SEQuote:
Originally Posted by KALISPIMENTA
http://www.clubit.com/product_detail...temno=A4802847
But if you really want a SE verions I'ld sell you mine.
If you take the time and read though the thread about 4 different people are having the same problem. With just the Memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by mouawad
ASUS has to be joking when they think these board does 1600mhz FSB naturally
You wouldnt by chance have a pic handy of your 2 MCW30's installed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I have them both sitting on my desk and going to install them this weekend and was wondering what they look like installed.
Here you go; not the best quality pictures:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Edit: You have to unscrew and flip the metal hooks 180 degrees to avoid contact with nearby caps, etc. It should also help in case you want to install a second video card.
Thank you sir
Looks like a worth while investment of time, thanks for tip on the mount
NP. It is worth it; if you're moving from air to watercooling, you'll definitely realize some stability. I run my loop as follows: CPU->NB->SB. For a crappy TT kit, it's still better than air. Here is my current setup, just finished an hour of orthos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Getting some random reboots only on a cold boot.
907 might not be the one.
Only happens once, after the pc reboot again its fine all day. If I turn it off for a few hours and start it up it will reboot on Vista loading / login.
Happend on 802 but only at high FSB.
I dialed back to 8x425 to see if it would help but its still there on cold boot.
Very frustrating......
i have a BIG problem here guys!
i installed the new 0907 BETA bios, but that CRAP bios wont even boot with my 3.4Ghz clock.
so, i tried to installed my 0901 bios, but i get a message that, i have a newer BIOS installed, so it wont let me install it! WHAT the F*** i that?
i wanna decide myself what bios i wanna have!!!
i am desperate here!
Tried reading the first page?Quote:
Originally Posted by Simkin
i never had any problem to install a older biso version..
so can you tell me how i reset to stock bios??
0907 sucks to? :(
What's the most stable BIOS to date? Any opinions?
well, i finally managed to flash my bios BACK to 0901, using Asus update.
never 0907 again.
my 0901 bios is rock stable, dont try 0907!Quote:
What's the most stable BIOS to date? Any opinions?
0907 has been the best for me so far!!! Bios feels very solid, no issues what so ever!!!
I definately lost stability going to 0907. It might just not like my chip
0907 changes the required voltage on the NB, SB, and FSBT for me. I bumped all of them up 1 notch and was all stable again. All other settings were left alone.
I had the opposite for 907.
used the exact same settings from 802 and NO problems I even lowerd vcore
NB SB and FST all stayed the same PLL had to go up 1.
907 is stable for me accept for the cold boot issue but I had that on 802
Well I loaded 0907 and STILL can't get my system to POST over 400......WTF. I think it has something to do with my memory......as I can POST with one stick of my el cheapo RAM.....ugh.
I recently added a Dtek fuzion block to the mix.....but I guess it really doesn't matter because I can't OC past 3.6. I dunno man, I liked my P5K Deluxe better for CPU OCing....I could run 450 FSB with 4 DIMMs no sweat. Maybe I just have a bad board for OCing?
I Had the same CPU and memory on that P35 board......agh I can't believe it.
On a more positive note the new BIOS allows me to power cycle on no POSTs using the PSU switch rather than having to clear the CMOS like I used to.
how many people here are running 3.6GHZ without watercooling. My temps go to 69C with 1.48V but it's stable. I tried lower voltages but fail within 10Minutes
I am :)Quote:
Originally Posted by leoftw
I only need 1.425v for 3.6ghz.... and in my case loads never break 50-55C depending on ambient.
3737mhz 415*9 1.5v BIOSQuote:
Originally Posted by leoftw
lapped ultra 120 extreme /w SL yate
82C during orthos (OUCH!)
Both of my P35 boards hit 500x7 w/ ease and neither got all that hot. The Max def has a bit more of a learning curve, but it gets along VERY well w/ my X-Fi and has a superb layout vs the Asus P35 boards IMO.
The SB/NB cooling may have lots of surface area, but it's just not tall enough to get hit by my intake wo/ adding some fans. How do you guys think a Jing Ting (copper flavor) will cope w/ this NB? I've already got one of those and an Evercool, but it doesn't look like the EC will fit. :(
The thought of paying an additional $$ for chipset cooling on this board makes me sad. What about good quiet 40mm's? I thought I saw a pic around here somewhere.
The 1st 2 should fit between SB and GPU, no? The last one's a 20mm. Anyone using these or have other suggestions?
EVERCOOL EC4010
40x40x10
5000RPM
6.24CFM
<21db
Scythe SY124010L
40x40x10
3500RPM
4.11CFM
<14db
Scythe SY124020L
40x40x20
3500RPM
4.86CFM
19.56db
EDIT: Ok, so I tried the fan off my Jing Ting Forcetake JTS 0006. It's rated @
4200RPM
4.93CFM
21.13db
Not only does it light up blue, but it knocked 7C load off the NB @ load! Looks like it's time to order up some more for the rest of the sink, hehe. :D
Just updated to 0907 and this is the best BIOS so far IMO as far as stability and OC.
Just got to wait for some lower ambient temps so I can push this thing further :up:
I am completely comfused..... why does CPUz say that I am at 2.84 and Windows and Coretemp say I at 3.19???? Is it cause I am at x8 muliplier??
I can't see to find a balance at 9x for 2.8 and 1066 for my memory or even 1146 for memory. Any ideas would be helpful :up:
With Core processors, if you use anything other than the stock multi, it screws the reading up for some programs.
cpu-z still reads the correct speed and multi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade5399
Hey guys
Here are some graphs i'd like comments on...
also, my board doesn't run on anything besides 400strap. except for stock auto settings, which is 266strap. Broken dividers?
9x multi doesn't work for me, even when underclocked, tried various straps, memory speeds, voltages... wth?
3.6ghz is not stable yet, vcore is probably too low (i did up it a bit, along with other essentials), but i get high temps with my case on silent fan settings. Fans on high sound like a cheap hairdryer :eek: Temps are pretty high at 3.4ghz for my tastes, but i did hit 81c with ~1.41 vcore :rofl:
I guess lapping is my only option left, I recently swapped my stock cpu block for a dtek fuzion with mx-2 paste. Temp dropped ~2c... not what i expected.
Any comment is appreciated!:up:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 5
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled [0]
CPU Voltage : 1.31875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.3
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
http://pages.videotron.com/rez/8x425...17h00-CPU1.png
http://pages.videotron.com/rez/8x425...17h00-CPU2.png
http://pages.videotron.com/rez/8x425...17h00-CPU3.png
http://pages.videotron.com/rez/8x425...-FSB Volts.png
http://pages.videotron.com/rez/8x425...0-NB Volts.png
http://pages.videotron.com/rez/8x425...00-Temp NB.png
http://pages.videotron.com/rez/8x425...00-Temp SB.png
http://pages.videotron.com/rez/8x425...7h00-VCore.png
http://pages.videotron.com/rez/8x425...7h00-Volt3.png
http://pages.videotron.com/rez/8x425...7h00-Volt5.png
http://pages.videotron.com/rez/8x425...h00-Volt12.png
http://pages.videotron.com/rez/8x425_Stable/Everest.jpg
http://pages.videotron.com/rez/8x425_Stable/SuperPi.jpg
Oh, here's a 10 hour OCCT run, with stock gigabyte waterblock. Ambient is 23c, which drops to 20c during the night, hence the gradual drop.
http://pages.videotron.com/rez/8x425...ent23to19c.png
thank you both (Renegade5399) so I am fine using that multi and the settings I want ignoring what XP shows and Coretemps? I mean am I safe?Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
thanks... I figured that CPUz was correct cause they were the exact same settings I set in the BIOS
thanks
Yes, you can ignore those as they are false readings.
my cpuz read somthing like 2.07 at 6 x and my system tray in windows says e 6850 at 3.01. it is all stock on 401 with everything at auto. i tried the manual settings in the bios at 9x333 e6850 settings to see and cpuz still says 2.07 at 6 x. i have not ventured into updating the bios or overclocking this new computer yet because i am a newb at this stuff but i will as soon as i figure it out..
if everything reads auto, You have speedstepping enabled, Disable it if you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by loften
You need to disable C1E, EIST, etc in the BIOS. To save power, the board is downclocking the chip at idle. Try running CPUz while running OCCT or Prime and I'll bet the speed goes back up.
thanks,,will try those with some other settings that i have writen down for oc.. updated total newb now,, winblows or somthing will not let me change anything in bios.. bios lets me change it but once i restart it error reports in winblows and i have to shut down/restart then back in bios nothing changed. it goes back to stock settings?? i forgot my pretty much useless asus book in my work truck because i wanted to read it instead of working..
well my NB is under water with a mcw30 so that might help a little for stability but this board never falls over @ 1700FSB with 1.45v on the NB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warboy
this is the most stable board i've ever used once you get the bios dialed in properly, even moreso than my p5k-dlx which was also good but the maximus handles quads better.
I trust my P5K alot more then these thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by mouawad
I got it at 420x9 on these board, but When I first got these board, it was able to do 460x9 easy, no i can't get past 423x9 without getting a reboot during a OCCT stress test.
hey guy i gota problem with cpu init :(
yesterday i was installing my watercooling and when i was leak testing the barb on my rad was not full tightend so when i was turning that i was allso loosing my cpu barb(connect) the cpu barb leaked a good bit and the board and gfx got wet.i left it for a day to dry and today it was a perfectly dry, when i was leak testing there was no current going through the board so there should not off been anydamage done ? when i tryed to boot it today i Keep getting CPU INIT and it wont even boot.i tried pressing the clear cmos button with no joy :(.I slotted out the ram and that also did not work :(
so just wondering if anyone has any ideas to fix this :)
reseat the cpu. what have you got to lose?
loose loop.... :shakes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by awhir
Will it post at all?
I would remove battery, cpu
clear cmos and let her sit for a bit, install battery and reseat cpu.
it wont post at all :(
just tried remounting the cpu with no luck :(
any other ideas , is there any other way to clear cmos then using the button or battery ?
:clap:
try using cpu on other board... 2$ says you fried something :yepp:
Ooooh...this is gonna be fun. I'm gonna like this board. Using an E6550 (stock 2.33GHz) while waiting the release of the E8500. I simply raised the FSB to 425 (7 x 425 = 2975) and left all else on auto. Seems perfectly stable (haven't run Prime95 or anything yet) but did run 3DM06 and got this...
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/875/jreis9.th.jpg.
I imagine this CPU will hit 3.4GHz easy and this board is gonna be rockin'. I'm on the 0903 BIOS BTW.
SorryQuote:
Originally Posted by awhir
The only thing I can suggest is you start testing your cpu/ram/gpu on another board if you have one to test on:shrug:
I found out what my problem was: EVERY divider is unstable past 400 MHz! I was trying to run 1:1 by manually selecting it, but I had to set to auto.....I'll be damned nuckingfuts you're the man. I'm stable at 3.8 GHz now and I just broke 20K in 3dmark06 on Vista x64.......I really need to install XP to see what I get there.
http://www.overclock.net/attachments...cct-stable.jpg
I´ve been having some strange reboots the last couple of days.
The system is 12h stable in Prime95 both blend+small fft.
Memtest also passed 12h without error.
It happends about 3-4 times / day. The computer just reboots and then its fine for a couple of hours. And I dont get any bsod or error message in event log.
Running bios 0907 if that helps...
My setup is in my sign, and Im running Vista x64
Have you tested your PSU? You may have a dying PSU......normally if a system just reboots without any BSOD then it's PSU related.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkstormz
Get out a multimeter and test each rail at idle and load. :up:
Ok now I'm trying for 475x8......I can boot it fine, but I crash in OCCT last time....increased FSB Term and PLL a little....testing now.
So after ownership for a while, does anyone recommend this board still?
Sure do! I love mine on BIOS 0907. Rock solid and performs like a mofo.
If X38 is still around by March (:rofl: hopefully) it's either one of these or an Abit IX38 Quad GT :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade5399
I say go for it. It's a great board. You may want to have a look at the Abit though.....I know it has eSATA, which is something I value. I have to use a PCI-E x1 card for my eSATA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
A plus for this board is the CMOS clear button.....MAN I LOVE IT!
The heatsink for the NB seems to be of good quality too, even though it's anodized aluminum.
Looking at your sig, your NB/RAM are highly OC. Prime, either in small/large or blend won't stress them as much as some games or F@HQuote:
Originally Posted by Darkstormz
So, use OCCT last beta with slider on RAM, or at least F@H (less efficient though as it needs more time) to test if your OC is stable.
Remember, Prime95 was built with CPU in mind, while OC your board you need to take into account a new chip: the NB (still in 90 nm technology, that's why it su*ks
Personally I won't (despite my sig, I could play with two of these Maximus -non SE- versions). By March, as you say later, the X48 with native support for 4x400MHz bus on quad cores will give you a better OC headroom on default voltage. Also, ASUS and others will improve the PCB design to correct the so many bugs in this MB. If you have something like a P965 or P35, it is really not worth the extra-money for a low real world performance increase. The PCI-E v2 will just not give you any improvement in most demanding new games (like Crysis)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
Later, moving to a X48 will be a better idea as the PCB design would have matured (X38 and X48 won't need from MB manufactures any change, so they can really focus on PCB enhancements rather) and the chip bugs corrected by intel
Now, if you will stick to a 4x400 MHz FSB and don't look to OC more, this board could be a long time investment before the new socket change by end 2008.
About what was quoted before:
Let me lough please :rofl:Quote:
An Unexpected Loss of Performance at Higher Speeds
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3184&p=4
They just make it a world first when it was described 2 months ago here by many users, also on a Q6600. It is what people were talking about as the Prime95 bug, and many people here sustained it was user errata or Prime software bug.
These people should go work at Anandtech :ROTF:
Anyway, if they sticked their QX chip in a Gigabyte board or P35 board, they would have seen it is not a CPU limit, but an ASUS nasty bug. My Q6600, like other people here, can get a 1.65vcore at 3.6 GHz unstable on my P965 but Priming rock solid while on the two maximus non-SE versions I tested it shows the load bug like other people described at 1.57v... I'll keep my P965 for now
... Maybe the autors there are sponsored by ASUS!!!! They always deliver great notes to ASUS boards, and they never find any of the bugs users discover later!!!
And, ohh, this isn't new, just old story repeating its self, like with the P5B Deluxe, OC queen (but, so so many bugs on early PCBs and Bios revisions)
Again, that bug only was described on new X38 ASUS boards, so Intel giving new hidden indications is rather a poesy than a fact
Quote:
In fact, we believe what we are seeing may be nothing more than a CPU protection mechanism in action.
...that only happens on ASUS X38 boards?:stick: lol. At least they acknoledge that the issue exists, however i do not believe that thier summation of the facts points to the right answer...
That's what I was saying. But looks like that many people are really dumb... :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
Furthermore, they keep using Prime95 as the only stability test, when serious overclockers know the NB with its 90nm finition is also a big limiting factor on X38 motherboards above 400MHz FSB. So, their stable OC is more than debatable.
Many reviews claim, as soon as a MB is out, it is fully stable at some virtual FSB only few rare people can reach later on retail products. People must understand that big sites like Anandtech just can't afford the time of a real stability test, it will take them ages to publish a review
So be advocated and don't be surprised when you Prime stable while your system hangs up/reboots from time to time in real world applications. Their review also says it: some times you can hang at idle while you prime stable for days. Their explanation to it (enabling the no vdroop options) is rather silly: they say it is caused because of the maximum limit of VID is reached. Well, it just can't be, only the lowest VID will make you hang, unless you bump above 1.8 vcore. So their hanging on idle must be looked elsewhere...
Sorry, much criticism, but really needed for people to understand they can't come claim their system is unstable at 420MHz FSB while it is stable with other people. We don't use all the same stability definition. Many gamers will accept random lockups
Happy Holidays and Christmas for all
So I did some testing during my Computers downtime the other day, So i popped in my E6600. Cleaned my 120X and the CPU well, Then put on a nice coat of AS5. Then Started overclocking, 460x8 at 1.55v. Idle...16C, Load....28C
Stock Speeds....5C Idle, 10C load.
The Ambient in my room was warm that day. Like me 70-75F.
O_o
I also have this problem, with an E6850. It shows my CPU temp at 8 degrees Celsius... And i'm using the last bios (0907). Is there some "secret" setting like P5K Deluxe had to fix the CPU temperature detection ?
Also, Everest is showing me 60 degrees Celsius on both Northbridge and Southbridge... and that's a lot. Do i have to be worried, or is it normal for X35 to be so "hot" ?
Thx in advance !
Ok, after removing Asus pipe carefully and with no problems I mounted the two HR-09, the HR-05 and a Enzotech cooler for the Southbridge and put the board into my system again and started.
It made a short noise like sth. was burning and it smelled like also. One of the chipparts on the board between sata ports and casefrontpanel connection at the buttom of the board was burned. This little chip is far away from the removed pipe and mouted coolers.
Do you sink, that I had a bad day, or did I made a terrible mistake when removing pipe and mounting new coolers, because the burned chip is that far away from anything I touched.
Just ordere a new one now only without SE. I´m not very lucky with my pc atm :(
It`s the X38 by the way. But these low cpu temperatures with 0907 are terrible. To your NB temp: My temp was at 48°C at Load with aircooling, 8x120mm Yate Loon D12SL. When you don`t have such a strong airflow and no watercooling it could reach 60°C easily I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkY
Like Espiso stated you will need to improve airflow in ya case to get a lower NB temp, mine is always around 51°C with 1.52 volts, can you mount a sidepanel fan ? centered on the NB, don't forget the SB too as it also gets pretty hot (prolly heat from the NB influencing the rest of the components)Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkY
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Originally Posted by eSp!s0
Humm... I can think of some AS5, which is conductive, falling on some of the electric parts of the MB, or else a bad cabling connection (an USB cable?), or bad luck...
I was going to install 2 mcw30's today, after hearing that perhaps I will not.Quote:
Ok, after removing Asus pipe carefully and with no problems I mounted the two HR-09, the HR-05 and a Enzotech cooler for the Southbridge and put the board into my system again and started.
It made a short noise like sth. was burning and it smelled like also. One of the chipparts on the board between sata ports and casefrontpanel connection at the buttom of the board was burned. This little chip is far away from the removed pipe and mouted coolers.
Do you sink, that I had a bad day, or did I made a terrible mistake when removing pipe and mounting new coolers, because the burned chip is that far away from anything I touched.
My NB and SB never see 45 celcius under load
hmmmm what to do......
Hi, did you load "optimized defaults" first after flashing bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkY
How did you flash bios?
I have no temperature reporting issues on 907. Temps are reported the same as previous bioses, except for CPU temp, but everest and Coretemp report the same...
Ive just flashed to the 0903 bios and my cpu temps have went up from 38 idle to 46 idle,is this the norm with this bios?
I'm thinking of going back to 0903, was more stable with less volts.
No increase in performance either.
cpu temps lower than ambient??... wtF is ASUS' problem? :mad:
That's on air? There is absolutely no way that you get 16C idle ever.....let along 5C. Even a chilled water loop couldn't get that. You do realize that 16C=60.8F? That's WELL below room temp :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Warboy
I would try another application (such as Everest) for monitoring temps....
BTW I get 50C load at 3.8 GHz with 1.480V (in CPU-Z while in OCCT stress)....and I have a high end water cooling loop. I idle at 28C with an ambient of 65-67F (~19-20C)
Don't even bother man. You aren't going to see a higher OC with water on the NB.....just do what I do. I get fine temps with a 120mm fan sitting on my graphics card. It cools the backside chips and PCB components as well as the NB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/395...1238847_rs.jpg
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What app are you guys using to monitor temps, as well as what OS? I'm running 0907 with Vista x64 monitoring with Everest and everything is detecting normally for me.......no below ambient temps.
Same here
I use Everest with Vista 32, temps are normal running 907
Oke some quick Questions before I start to setup this board along with a Q6600. What ram should I use for the sake of ease for starters on this new board: 2x1GB Ballistix PC8500 tracers, or the 2x2GB G.Skill PQ8000. The ballistix I used for my P5K deluxe , was running a nice 1200mhz 5-5-5-12 @ 2.05v. The G.Skill I didnt test it yet it is still new in the package:), along with a new Q6600. So I try to run 400x9 at first. What Bios are u guys suggesting? 0903/ 0907? Thanks!