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07-02-2011, 05:34 PM
JF-AMD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Formula350

All NDAs aren't created equal. Plus, they might have lifted certain aspects at some point, perhaps to drum up some lost interest due to the delay.

Hard to figure out exactly why everyone has been so tight lipped. Not questioning why AMD wants it (all companies do), but why testers have been respectful enough not to, when it hasn't necessarily been the case in the past. Ya know? Is it perhaps that BD actually kicks enough ass that they want the initial "Wow!" to be that great, or is it that it sucks and nothing really worth leaking? :S

Actually all of our NDAs are created equal.

Why are we tight lipped? We always have been on CPUs. When you sell the majority of your product through large OEMs you don't want to disrupt their supply chains and stall demand.
07-03-2011, 12:05 AM
repman

From OBR blog:

Attachment 117116

Quote:

Look, this is amazing! Fully stable in Cinebench R11 @ 4,85 GHz! SuperPi 1M - 5,1 GHz on AIR ... proof video:

The video is coming I guess.
07-03-2011, 12:58 AM
TheBreezyBB

I really hope this will be true! I want a 4.8GHz on Air :p:
07-03-2011, 01:06 AM
FlanK3r

AWESOME!Looks C5F+FX rocks!
07-03-2011, 01:08 AM
repman

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aJTldEb1Km...e11.png-oc.png
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-roteoiOV-N...uperpi_oc4.png

http://youtu.be/haV93vh20Q0

I don't trust this guy one bit tho.

We know what was going on with his Llano overclocking, so maybe it's the same issue here.
07-03-2011, 02:01 AM
TheBreezyBB

5.1Ghz on air @ 1.608v! If this end being real, i can see BD retail hitting 4.6GHz on air @ 1.4v easily. But, what are the stock clocks?

I'm giving this RIG to my brother and I'm getting myself ready for BD very soon. I can't wait much longer...
07-03-2011, 02:28 AM
undone

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBreezyBB

5.1Ghz on air @ 1.608v!

I saw 1.58v on that Asus tweak utility.

EDIT: There's too much useful info be masked so I have no confidence on these, the guy always make a lot of things up, maybe even the frequency is wrong.
07-03-2011, 03:16 AM
True Brit

cmon AMD give us some info, when you were releasing Phenom II we had benches weeks before release, if you dont im going intel, and so are all my mates lol :ROTF:
07-03-2011, 04:26 AM
PatRaceTin

hmmmm more interesting
07-03-2011, 04:33 AM
Sn0wm@n

5ghz stable sounds good
07-03-2011, 05:03 AM
FlanK3r

he is not the one man with BD....And what I know from second man ,-). Dont worry.
07-03-2011, 05:04 AM
XRL8

Quote:

Originally Posted by JF-AMD

Actually all of our NDAs are created equal.

Why are we tight lipped? We always have been on CPUs. When you sell the majority of your product through large OEMs you don't want to disrupt their supply chains and stall demand.

I know we have been there, but as you say again.So will I ;-)

That didnt stopped you from showcasing both zacate and llano performance earlier .In the before phenom era there was more info as well.Point one.
You also dont want to stop people from buying sandybridge now ,as its available now, and users dont have necessary info to hold off for BD (if theres a reason to). ? .Point two.
I would think intel has even more OEM supply and demand chains to broke, yet it doesnt stop them from releasing some information.Thats point three.

As for the obr scores.Theres no reason why BD shouldnt be able to clock to these frequencies.
07-03-2011, 05:31 AM
undone

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

he is not the one man with BD....And what I know from second man ,-). Dont worry.

What second man or you know? No teasing please:shakes:
07-03-2011, 06:03 AM
Mechanical Man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Formula350

There are NDAs for everything in life, so it's not just when something goes to a reviewer (in the computing world). There are NDAs between companies, and no doubt employees as well. I'm sure you know that there are NDAs for beta testing software, which is basically what is going on with hardware testers. I had to sign NDAs for the closed betas of Diablo II and then later on the Lord of Destruction expansion. If Chew is even just playing with one, I'd be very surprised if he hasn't had to sign one.

I was speaking about reviewers. I think chew does lot more.
07-03-2011, 06:27 AM
TheBreezyBB

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

he is not the one man with BD....And what I know from second man ,-). Dont worry.

Such a Tease :(
07-03-2011, 08:06 AM
Apokalipse

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonkevy666

expect that he hit the stop button in superPI at 20 seconds.

Yes, hence it shows it takes more than 20 seconds. Like I said.
07-03-2011, 08:15 AM
repman

OBR's "benchmarks and OCing" are pure crap if you ask me. We know how true his Llano OC turned out to be, don't we?
And he said those frequencies were fully stable, well I don't see any benchmarking done on the video (which is the supposed proof).

And the "teasers" are pathetic, same old stuff every time, and we don't even know if the CPU is really running that frequency anyway.
07-03-2011, 08:46 AM
TheBreezyBB

I wasn't following him before so i don't really know. I'm taking all these with a grain of salt :P:
07-03-2011, 09:30 AM
BeepBeep2

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBreezyBB

5.1Ghz on air @ 1.608v! If this end being real, i can see BD retail hitting 4.6GHz on air @ 1.4v easily. But, what are the stock clocks?

I'm giving this RIG to my brother and I'm getting myself ready for BD very soon. I can't wait much longer...

Cant make that assumption yet. If Phenom II did 5.1 @ 1.608v, you'd be looking at 4.6 at about 1.43v, so there is no "easily" there.
07-03-2011, 10:11 AM
TheBreezyBB

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeepBeep2

Cant make that assumption yet. If Phenom II did 5.1 @ 1.608v, you'd be looking at 4.6 at about 1.43v, so there is no "easily" there.

Well i'm talking from my own experience I can do 4.4GHz on Air @ 1.53 did not stress test and i won't be doing so. so, a 4.6GHz @ 1.4v ( +.02-.04 ) is feasible as far as i can tell :p:

nothing is certain yet sadly :( I'm getting a CHV in a week or so + a 1100t to play with until BD arrives
07-03-2011, 10:11 AM
TheBreezyBB

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeepBeep2

Cant make that assumption yet. If Phenom II did 5.1 @ 1.608v, you'd be looking at 4.6 at about 1.43v, so there is no "easily" there.

Well i'm talking from my own experience I can do 4.4GHz on Air @ 1.53 did not stress test and i won't be doing so. so, a 4.6GHz @ 1.4v ( +.02-.04 ) is feasible as far as i can tell :p:

nothing is certain yet sadly :( I'm getting a CHV in a week or so + a 1100t to play with until BD arrives
07-03-2011, 10:30 AM
BeepBeep2

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBreezyBB

Well i'm talking from my own experience I can do 4.4GHz on Air @ 1.53 did not stress test and i won't be doing so. so, a 4.6GHz @ 1.4v ( +.02-.04 ) is feasible as far as i can tell :p:

nothing is certain yet sadly :( I'm getting a CHV in a week or so + a 1100t to play with until BD arrives

Phenom II "good" scaling = 100 Mhz per .05v +-.01v

...I'd trade you my 1100T for your 1090T, but I hope you know why ;)
07-03-2011, 10:38 AM
radaja

happy B-day Beep:D
07-03-2011, 11:49 AM
TheBreezyBB

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeepBeep2

Phenom II "good" scaling = 100 Mhz per .05v +-.01v

...I'd trade you my 1100T for your 1090T, but I hope you know why ;)

I would trade mine for A BD in blink ;) And happy BD to you :D
07-03-2011, 02:27 PM
DarthShader

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBreezyBB

I'm taking all these with a grain of salt :P:

I suggest a grain of the size of the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. (estiamted at 10km diameter if you don't know :))

If he uses the word "amazing" in regards of an AMD product, then I am having an Admiral Ackbar moment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBreezyBB

I would trade mine for A BD in blink ;) And happy BD to you :D

Yep, happy Bulldozer to you Beep. :D

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