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10-29-2007, 07:05 PM
ChaosMinionX

Quote:

Originally Posted by njkid32

Damn this is a pretty long thread:shocked: The only problem I can see so far with this board is the vcore. This cpu was 100% prime95 stable at 3.6ghz at 1.38v on my Asus Premium P35 board. I understand there are alot of new settings in this bios and I'll have to really dig into it but for now like I said the only thing I can see an issue with is the vcore/vdroop control. Or lack of. I started out by setting the vcore similar to how I had it on the Premium at 1.4v to get 1.38v real. That was obviously a no go. So, I worked my way up with vcore and it seemed like it just wasnt changing at all. I finally landed on 1.5v to get 1.41v real. I am still on the original 0401 bios and am not sure if any issue have been solved with a new bios revision (I guess once I read this thread I'll find out:))

One other thing I found out that was total garbage with that cpu clock up or whatever that software was. I kept getting bsod's all the time. But then again I disable all cpu features in the bios so it wouldnt work either way.

I am running 4gb of memory on Vista x64 without any issues. One thing I did notice is my vdimm did overvolt a bit.

http://www.njkidxs.org/Q6700-3.6ghz.jpg

Get on 0505 loadline calibration is fixed, you wont see Vdroop like that with 0505/LLC :)
10-29-2007, 07:57 PM
mXpS

I just ordered one of these boards, so I can't wait to get it!
10-29-2007, 11:51 PM
mhdabiad

Max's NB cooling survey!

Just an idea since this board came with NB WC, interesting to see what people actually used to cool the NB, mine:
NB cooled by:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21137
w/Fan.
temp=40-44c @ 1.65v in Asus probe.

SB cooled by:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21312
temp=40-43c @ 1.55 in Asus probe.
CPU cooled by:
D-Tek Fusion block, PA120.2 Rad.

X3230 G0 chip (testing 2.4 - 4.0G) , oops 7900GT@stock.
10-30-2007, 12:18 AM
Leeghoofd

Did you hook up the fuzion block to ya loop or never tried it ? till now my NB goes up to 49°C at 1.45 volts but it's still passively cooled
10-30-2007, 12:41 AM
MIS3

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhdabiad

Just an idea since this board came with NB WC, interesting to see what people actually used to cool the NB, mine:
NB cooled by:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21137
w/Fan.
temp=40-44c @ 1.65v in Asus probe.

SB cooled by:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21312
temp=40-43c @ 1.55 in Asus probe.
CPU cooled by:
D-Tek Fusion block, PA120.2 Rad.

X3230 G0 chip (testing 2.4 - 4.0G) , 8800GTS@stock.

So, did you remove the whole heatpipe assembly or just part of it?

I looked at the board, I did not see anyway to remove just the fusion block.
10-30-2007, 01:44 AM
-=j0nnyr0773n=-

I noticed that with Asus Probe it says my cpu temp is about 10 degrees cooler than what core temp shows. My bios also shows the same temp as asus probe does when idling. Could core temp be that far off? I would say it's probe but it seems to match the bios temp reading.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&d=1193738036
10-30-2007, 02:18 AM
andyr(uk)

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=j0nnyr0773n=-

I noticed that with Asus Probe it says my cpu temp is about 10 degrees cooler than what core temp shows. My bios also shows the same temp as asus probe does when idling. Could core temp be that far off? I would say it's probe but it seems to match the bios temp reading.

I get the same as you :confused:
10-30-2007, 02:28 AM
-=j0nnyr0773n=-

Now look at the speed fan temps compared to core temp and asus probe... What ones do I trust?

http://www.geekaid.com/D00machin3/screenie1.jpg
10-30-2007, 02:28 AM
sup3rfly

i guess all of us having the same issue... the different between pc probe and coretemp is around 10 degrees.... i follow the coretemp reading tho... look more logical to me :)
10-30-2007, 02:40 AM
C3PO

hey all..

ATT: GAR

do you have problem to set the NB volt whit your Gskills RAM?

i can set my RAM higher then 1.6 it wil not boot.....:S
but if i set NB to auto i can only OC to 3.4 :S

i just got my Gskills 2*2G PC8000

is this bad mem?

my hardware

Q6600 B3

Asus Maxi : bios 505

XFX 8800 GTX

highpoint raid

creative audi 2

8 * HD

PSU : Enermax 720W
10-30-2007, 02:40 AM
-=j0nnyr0773n=-

Check this out:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/22...perature-guide

Is this suggesting that the speed fan temps are the more reliable temps over the core temp readings?

Pulled this from "Section 8: Tools" (in the above link)

Quote:

Note 1: Core Temp is an excellent utility, however, it has a fundamental flaw in terminology, which creates confusion in the CPU temperature community, by obscuring the distinction between temperature and specification. Core Temp shows Tjunction 85c (or 100c), which is an incorrect term. The proper expression is Tjunction Max 85c (or 100c), which is the term defined by Intel as shown above in the Specifications section, and as represented below:

Tjunction = Core temperature
Tjunction Max = Shutdown

Also:

Quote:

Note 3: SpeedFan is very flexible and is the temperature monitoring utility of choice. SpeedFan detects and labels thermal sensors according to various motherboard, chipset and super I/O chip configurations, so the Tcase label can be CPU, Temp 1, Temp 2, or Temp 3. Even if Tcase is labeled as CPU, it is still necessary to confirm the identity of Tcase prior to conducting Calibrations. Run Prime95 and note which SpeedFan temperature scales with an Idle to Load Delta similar to the Cores. This will identify the label corresponding to Tcase. Labels can later be renamed using the Configure button, (see Section 11). If a temperature shows a flame icon, this indicates alarm limits which require adjustment. Use the Configure button to set CPU and Core temp alarms to Safe Scale. If a temperature shows Aux 127, this is simply an unassigned input which can be disabled using the Configure button. CPU`s with Steppings which are Tjunction Max 100c typically require +15c Core Offsets. See Section 11.

Is this all true? If so then it would seem to suggest that Speed Fan temps are the true temps to monitor.
10-30-2007, 03:15 AM
egandt

S3 resume, does not work. I have it set to only use S3 in BIOS and I'm using acpi 2.0 as well, yet Vista x64 does not switch to an S3 sleep state, instead it shutdowns the video and the fans/HDs continue to run. When I attempt to resume the system is locked and I must hold the power button for 5 seconds to force a shutdown and then reboot. Since Hibernate will not work with 4GB of memory an S3 sleep state is a requirement, yet I have no idea what to do as I thought this was a 100% BIOS controlled operation, and since Vista is designed to use S3 sleep over shutdown, I'm really at a loss. Any ideas?

Thanks,
ERIC
10-30-2007, 03:51 AM
Majoram

Just an update on my bad mobo issue.

Just came home and the OCZ PC8500 RAM did 19 passes with no errors using MemTest 86 v3.3.

Going to try Memtest 86+ test and then switch back to the Ballistix and see how they fare again.

Sigh this is getting to be a real pain. It seems to point to the RAM as the problem now.
10-30-2007, 04:25 AM
cuke2u

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=j0nnyr0773n=-

I noticed that with Asus Probe it says my cpu temp is about 10 degrees cooler than what core temp shows. My bios also shows the same temp as asus probe does when idling. Could core temp be that far off? I would say it's probe but it seems to match the bios temp reading.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&d=1193738036

Hi, that's because prob and the bios read the temps from an external source, whereas core temp takes the readings from inside the cores. Hence the difference, most people use core temp because it is more accurate...
ChrisC
10-30-2007, 04:34 AM
Langley

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuke2u

Deleted

hi cuke...
What's your daily now? The crucial are good? i have the same configuration and i am quad prime stable at 400 x 9 1,34Vcore with 4 x 1gb crucial pc8500 at 1000mhz 4-4-4-8 with 2,35V...
10-30-2007, 04:45 AM
kimandsally

Would like some opinions on what to do, currently I have some Kingston DDR2 8500 2X1GB kit, it works just fine but I have an opportunity to sell it and buy some different ram, my options are 2X2GB 6400 ram;

OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-6400C4 800MHz Reaper
OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-6400C5
OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-6400C5 Dual Channel Vista Gold Series

Or these;

Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2 Dominator PC2-8500C5 TwinX (2x1GB)
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-8500C5 1066MHz Dual Channel Kit
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC2-8500 1066MHz SLI-Ready Edition Dual Channel DDR2
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC2-9200 1150MHz Reaper HPC Edition Dual Channel DDR2

The price difference between them all is small enough that it doesn't matter, my thoughts are what would be the plus and negative points of 2Gb or 4GB there is the difference of 6400 to 9200 DDR2 specs but would Vista 32 be better with 4GB or would Vista 64 be MUCH better with 4GB?

The reason I'm asking here is because I have this motherboard and really need to know how the different RAM is likely to run, I have read the whole thread and know the G Skill is very good but it's not an option as only the ram I have listed can I get at a good price.

Thanks for every ones input on the whole thread it's been a good read.
10-30-2007, 05:30 AM
mhdabiad

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhdabiad

Just an idea since this board came with NB WC, interesting to see what people actually used to cool the NB, mine:
NB cooled by:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21137
w/Fan.
temp=40-44c @ 1.65v in Asus probe.

SB cooled by:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21312
temp=40-43c @ 1.55 in Asus probe.
CPU cooled by:
D-Tek Fusion block, PA120.2 Rad.

X3230 G0 chip (testing 2.4 - 4.0G) , 7900GT@stock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Did you hook up the fuzion block to ya loop or never tried it ? till now my NB goes up to 49°C at 1.45 volts but it's still passively cooled

Na, seems not required yet and that Nocuta/fan came in handy after trying HR05 which also fits. Notice naked NB underneath :

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/cb7ce0090a.jpg

Although I knew about X38 cap, over the excitment I totally forgot it and went ahead
& poped it.
10-30-2007, 05:40 AM
mhdabiad

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIS3

So, did you remove the whole heatpipe assembly or just part of it?

I looked at the board, I did not see anyway to remove just the fusion block.

Removed stock NB assembly, SB and reseated the rest.
Also some glue holding both assemblies.

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/6d676f050c.jpg
10-30-2007, 05:46 AM
mhdabiad

Forgot to add I only trust coretemp.!;)
10-30-2007, 07:02 AM
Renegade5399

Is the NB/SB heatsink a pain to remove? Does it come off easily or does it give a real hassle?
10-30-2007, 07:10 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimandsally

Would like some opinions on what to do, currently I have some Kingston DDR2 8500 2X1GB kit, it works just fine but I have an opportunity to sell it and buy some different ram, my options are 2X2GB 6400 ram;

OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-6400C4 800MHz Reaper
OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-6400C5
OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-6400C5 Dual Channel Vista Gold Series

Or these;

Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2 Dominator PC2-8500C5 TwinX (2x1GB)
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-8500C5 1066MHz Dual Channel Kit
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC2-8500 1066MHz SLI-Ready Edition Dual Channel DDR2
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC2-9200 1150MHz Reaper HPC Edition Dual Channel DDR2

If you can get the Gskills PC8000 4 gig kit 5-5-5-15 then I would go for that as they leave more headroom for higher FSB... remember though this kit is hardly overclockable but a steal for it's price... I payed 210 euro's with shipping for this kit :up:

http://www.memoryc.com/products/desc...kit/index.html
10-30-2007, 07:11 AM
cuke2u

Quote:

Originally Posted by Langley

hi cuke...
What's your daily now? The crucial are good? i have the same configuration and i am quad prime stable at 400 x 9 1,34Vcore with 4 x 1gb crucial pc8500 at 1000mhz 4-4-4-8 with 2,35V...

Poo, I must be doing something wrong, I can't touch your memory timings, even at 339 x 9. What's your detailed bios settings please..
Chris
10-30-2007, 07:25 AM
C3PO

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3PO

hey all..

ATT: GAR

do you have problem to set the NB volt whit your Gskills RAM?

i can set my RAM higher then 1.6 it wil not boot.....:S
but if i set NB to auto i can only OC to 3.4 :S

i just got my Gskills 2*2G PC8000 BQP

is this bad mem?

my hardware

Q6600 B3

Asus Maxi : bios 505

XFX 8800 GTX

highpoint raid

creative audi 2

8 * HD

PSU : Enermax 720W

hmmm if run the Gskills in single mode i can set NB from 1.61 to max....:S
can it be i can som bad mem? or is it the board??? please help!!!
10-30-2007, 08:15 AM
mhdabiad

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade5399

Is the NB/SB heatsink a pain to remove? Does it come off easily or does it give a real hassle?

Used a large flat screw driver inserted underneath the assembly while leaning on the pci slot from the other end applying little pressure gradually till it popped. Lucky me the whole thing came off I would off removed the cap anyway, I guess better contact.

Sadly, not doing any benching at the moment too many variables with this bios too much time to be wasted, thanks I'd rather wait for a newer than 505.
10-30-2007, 08:31 AM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3PO

hey all..

ATT: GAR

do you have problem to set the NB volt whit your Gskills RAM?

i can set my RAM higher then 1.6 it wil not boot.....:S
but if i set NB to auto i can only OC to 3.4 :S

i just got my Gskills 2*2G PC8000

is this bad mem?

my hardware

Q6600 B3

Asus Maxi : bios 505

XFX 8800 GTX

highpoint raid

creative audi 2

8 * HD

PSU : Enermax 720W

Hey, i have no issues with this board and ram, my setup is stable as shown in my sig, what divider are you using???

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