Intel® Desktop Control Center give me an unexpected error while initializing the interface. Could please someone who have it working whit the bad axe 2 tell some info like:
Motherboard revision;
Bios revision;
Os language;
thanks
Intel® Desktop Control Center give me an unexpected error while initializing the interface. Could please someone who have it working whit the bad axe 2 tell some info like:
Motherboard revision;
Bios revision;
Os language;
thanks
Gah...I know this cpu should be able to do go higher. It can do BurnInTest at like 1.37V. :P I think you are right... temperature isn't as good as I hoped. Is that normal for air though? Orthos load jump by 25 degrees?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
Also, is there some stress test in between Orthos and BurnInTest? Something like Orthos Lite? :P
Thanks for the help!
Hello everyone, I just built a new computer, and I read this thread and other info over and over, but can't quite seem to get how the overclocking works.
This is my setup:
CPU: Intel E6600. FPO/Batch# L632A735
Motherboard: Intel 975XBX2KR (Bad Axe 2 from TigerDirect) with 2431 BIOS
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Model BL2KIT12864AA1005 (known to be Micron D9GMH).
PSU: Corsair CMPSU-520HX 520W
Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
Case: Antec P180B
GPU: eVGA 8800GTX
My temps (from TAT and Orthos) at stock settings are 46C idle, 56C load with the fan set to CPU control; the only other setting I can find is to turn CPU control off which sets the CPU fan to 100 percent which turns out to be 2680RPM, which is pretty noisy and annoying, but reduces temps to 39C idle, 51C load. I'd really prefer not to run that loud; with CPU controlling the fan, the whole system is near silent. I really like the fact that the cooler blows the heat from the CPU directly up into the top case fan of the P180B.
I've currently got the memory set to:
Reference Freq: 333Mhz
Memory Freq: 667Mhz
4-4-4-12
Memory Voltage: 2.20
I still have the Host Clock Freq set to 266Mhz because I haven't been able to get it to post at higher levels like 333 or 300. I haven't experimented further because I had thought it would be easy to get the CPU running at 3.0Ghz, so I must be missing something with the memory settings.
The RAM I have is supposed to be really good, PC2-8000, but I think I just don't know how to set it properly. My goal is to get it running at 3.0GHz with the best possible RAM settings; going higher will depend on how noisy the fan gets, because I'd rather keep it quiet, and I don't really want to increase voltages because I'm going to be keeping this computer for a very long time.
Maybe it's not posting because, as others are saying above, you need to turn off the watchdog to overclock. I noticed there were two kinds of non-posts: the sort the watchdog recovers you from, and the sort that even the watchdog doesn't come up and you need to do the jumper bit.
Regarding eventually crashing in the ROM when using USB keyboards or mice: try turning off Legacy USB under "Advanced", "USB Configuration". I found out that if Legacy USB is on, Memtest86+ will reboot if you move your USB mouse; a quick google showed that, and I quote: "Some BIOS’s had a bug in them which causes memtest to write over the memory area used by the USB legacy support resulting in freezes or reboots."
Thanks in advance for whatever help you can give this overclocking newbie!
if you look at my timing table i posted a while back you'll see why. On the 1066 strap the sub timings are way tighter then those of the 1333 strap. you can probably try booting at 5-5-5-15 or something big like that, but who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by heikis
Ah ok,Quote:
Originally Posted by screwtech02
Win XP Pro x64 is a great OS too bad the support is so weak. It's been out how long? meh.
The .exe update works fine under XP SP-2 home edition. I was thinking about trying 4gb ram so I installed x64 again hoping support would be improved by now. It's a little better and not by much.
I may try the alternative method you suggest and I really don't need to update.
I'm usin the 2333 bios, was on the 2395, but kept having random BSOD... I see no real reason to upgrade to the latest, since they STILL havent fixed the HD LED bug....:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by malficar
Unless someone can show me that it performs better??
Your ram is crucial balistix 2x1gb PC8000, default timings for that ram is 5-5-5-15 at 2.2v.Quote:
Originally Posted by evilsofa2
Im sorry to disapoint you but the cooler you have is not really good for overclocking, but it may be able to let your cpu reach at least 3.0ghz.
If you only want to push to 3ghz, you wont be able to overclock your ram. The reason is that 3000mhz = 333mhz (fsb) x 9 (default multi). The highest divider available would be 266mhz ref frequency - 800mhz mem frequency = 2:3 divider = 333fsb/500mhz ram --> DDR2 ---> 1000mhz ram wich is the default timing for your ram.
So its not really a bad thing, you just have ton concentrate on your cpu overclock. I would start with the default 1.325vcore and raise fsb to 280.. do some 15minute Orthos Large FTT priority 9... if it doesnt fail or reboot, raise fsb to something like 290.... same thing, if it doesnt fail, continue. You will inevitably reach a point where stock voltage is not enough. Raise it to 1.35v. continue... depending on your cooling and cpu stepping will determine how much vcore you need to have your cpu orthos stable. When you reach 3ghz, try to make it 1hour stable. If it fails, you can up vmch and vfsb a bit but for only 333fsb 1.6vmch 1.3vfsb is plenty...
When you manage to get 3ghz stable, then you can try to tighten your Ram timings because like i previously said, you wont be able to go over 1000mhz ram because of the memory divider. Well in fact you could still be able to go over 1000mhz but it would force you to put your "ref mem frequency" wich is the control over the fsb strap to 200mhz = 800mhz strap and i doubt you could do 333mhz stable with this strap.
Use that: http://www.peakin.com/xbx2/calculator.html
credits to Blauhung
Hope it helps!
I posted a thread about the new bios being out but it got moved for some reason. Well it's out here:http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...4&submit=Go%21
shogo I just got my BADAXE2 today, gonna put it on now , coming back later , good luck to me
guys where is the 2333 bios link please
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...eng&sType=prevQuote:
Originally Posted by Ajfina
Is there a way to force 1:1 timings?
I have my ref and mem at 333/667 respectively and yet cpu-z still shows 4:5
I have the same problem, I end up load defaults then change one option in the memory page each time then save and reboot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vice
I doesn't happen all the time though..
I mean, i just had my fsb @ 389 running 1:1, backed down to 377, now at 4:5
Aggravating.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vice
667 is the 4:5 divider, 533 is the 1:1
Also I find this board is much snappier running DDR2 800 with tight timings with cas3 than it does cas4 DDR2 1000. Anyone else have some input on this?
I had that error too with CPU-Z.
When you set a 333 ref freq 667 is 1:1.
Quote:
Originally Posted by malficar
Right you are, I overlooked that. its what I said on the 266 ref
Thank you so much for explaining this!Quote:
Originally Posted by shogo_ca
Okay, I set FSB to 280, left CPU voltage at the default of 1.325v, Ref Freq to 266, Memory Freq to 800, timings to 5-5-5-15, memory voltage to 2.20... and it didn't post, I got the watchdog. When I got back in the BIOS, I noticed that the tRASmin was set to 18 instead of 15, and the SPD reports that to be 18, so I left it that way, left everything else the same, and it still didn't post, watchdog again.
So I went back to 266 FSB, Ref Freq 266, Mem Freq 800, timings 5-5-5-18 and it posted. That proved stable in Orthos, so I bumped FSB to 267, which posted. FSB 270, 275 and 279 posted. 280 did not.
Back to 279, Orthos was stable, load temp is 56, CPU Freq is 2513, the peakin calc tells me Mem speed is 420, DDR2 equiv 840. Surely I can do better than that?
Just on a theory that the watchdog is too sensitive, I decided to see at what point the watchdog would stop coming up and I would need to use the jumper. FSB 290, 300, 315, 333, 350, 375, and 400 all got the watchdog, so I did not go higher.
So I disabled the watchdog, and tried FSB 280, and it's stable. FSB 300 is stable and the temp is still 56C. Impatient grasshopper I am, I bumped FSB right up to 333, idle temp is now 50C, load temp is up... to 57C. Orthos is stable for the first 5 minutes, and now "24" premiere is on TV so I'm going to go watch that, and see if Orthos is stable for 2 hours.
Guess that watchdog is a bit sensitive?
Edit: Orthos has run successfully for over 3 hours. Improved 1M SuperPi time from 21.625 at my original settings to 17.000! I think these are the settings I will stick with long-term. You guys are the best!
im having problems trying to reset bios and on this board is a pain in the a$$ i just cant ,im doing like the manual says
turn off the pc
switch jumper
turn on pc got into bios and ask me for reseting bios i hit enter and is suppost to ask me if im sure and is not doing it, any way i hit enter and F10 hit Y and enter , tells me that move the switch to normal position , turn off pc and move jumper . turn on pc and nothing it wont post. what do im missing ?
When you use the jumper to get back into BIOS, you need to set the BIOS back to known good values - if you don't, you'll have the same bad settings that won't let you post. You'll probably want to go to the Exit menu and select "Load Optimal Defaults". Then you Exit Saving Changes, and it will tell you to turn off power and put the jumper back. Then you read this thread some more and try and figure out what valid settings are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajfina
I have found the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
Its 3-4-3-9 at 2.4v is the fastest I can get my memory running after extensive testing. As well this is the only config for my modules that will pass memtest 86+
same here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yreka
There're always some guys saying higher MHz with lousy timing is better than lower Mhz with tighter timing in real world applications. I seriously doubted it.
I tested th following with one of my programs that does random reads/writes on a large hash table (128M):
400*9 Mem Freq= 400 3-3-3-8 (1:1)
400*9 Mem Freq= 500 5-5-5-15 (4:5)
1:1 with lower latency wins hands down by a small margin (~2%) for free:fact:
Even we consider the fact that memory running higher MHz reduces the actual latency, the latency settings usually do not scale well with higher MHz. For this test, it would require the 4:5 to run at 3.75-3.75-3.75-10 to match the 1:1 latency.
This suggests that if the memory could run at 3:4 533Mhz 4-4-4-12 we would have the best of the both worlds - lower latancy and higher throughput.:p:
thanks for the reply, but Ive been looking around XS and people use 1066 strap and high FSB with high mem frequencies and tight timings no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
make sence , thanks a lot beo , ill try that in a sex i meant secQuote:
Originally Posted by evilsofa2
I have a similiar setup:Quote:
Originally Posted by evilsofa2
E6700
4GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8000
AC Freezer 7 Pro
I easily went from 2.66 to 3.33 with about a 4-5 degree raise in core temp (sitting at 40C idle, OC'd). The fan is still silent at 840 RPM. I don't expect 4GHz on air with the heatsink/fan, but it is excellent for the price and can provide good mid level overclocking. I haven't had to time to try for the 3.6-3.7 area yet.
Here are my settings:
RAM
Ref - 266
Bus - 800
5-5-5-15 (board loves to override me and change it to 18 sometimes)
Volt - 2.2V
FSB
Bus - 333 -> 1333
Volt - Def
CPU
Speed - 3333
Volt - 1.4V
MCH
Volt - 1.55V
Note the DDR2 is running at 1GHz with these combinations.
Everything is stable, and most importantly to me, silent.