the CPU at 4200mhz like it is on the screenshot froze my PC i had to restart and i put it on 4.0Mhz just for now and so far it hasnt frozen.
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the CPU at 4200mhz like it is on the screenshot froze my PC i had to restart and i put it on 4.0Mhz just for now and so far it hasnt frozen.
When u have it at 4.2 and 4.0 do your MHz for the memory change ? Try a higher uncore with minor adjustmnets on other volts as well .. Lol ocing is such a pita !!!
Yes my memory was at 1600mhz with 4.2 and now its at 1520mhz with 4.0
Anyone tried de new F13M Bios?
have you tried f13k?
I am currently using F13M bios. Currently not having issues.. I have not checked I think it is F12 (key) to choose boot source.
or im sure if you keep hitting escape you can do boot source as well..
Im currently using the F12 bios do you recommend me chaning to any of the newer bios that are out there?
I noticed that since i changed to the F12 bios my PC tankes longer to get into windows, maybe because i have 2x500 Raid 0.
Anyone?
If works ok, why do you have to change anything? :)
It just might be better, my PC now takes longer to get to the Windows loading screen since i put the F12 bios
I prefer F12 myself. I tried most F13 betas, the reordering of the bios after F12 looks like a mess and has to many unnecessary subcategories to navigate to get to each setting, F13betas are a nuisance for me.
@Godmyster
Than just return to older BIOS that was faster at loading the OS.
F9 is great BIOS too but I find F12 the best all around.
Ok if you guys say its best ill stick to it then :P
My setting at the momento are:
Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ...................... [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled .............................. [all]
CPU Multi Threading .............................[Disable] - Enabled if you can boot and/or temps ok may need extra vcore
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ........................ [Enabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support ......................... [Enabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ............................ [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function .............................. [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology ...................... [Disabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ......................... [Enabled]
Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed ..............................[x36]
Uncore Frequency ............................[x16]or x17, x18 (always 2x +1 or +2 of memory Multi)
Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control .......................... [190]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........................ [100-102]
C.I.A.2........................................... .. [disabled]
Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mv]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mv]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Expert]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ........... [disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........... [8]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............. [quick]
Channel A + B + C
Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................[9]
tRCD ..................................[8]
tRP ...................................[8]
tRAS ..................................[24]
CR.....................................[1]
B2B.....................................[auto]
Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU Intel Core i7 920 D0 Stepping
Load Line Calibration ................. [enabled]
CPU Vcore ..............................[1.3]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v .................[1.34]
CPU PLL 1.800v .........................[1.6]
PCIE 1.500v ...........................[1.5]
QPI PLL 1.100v ........................[1.16]
IOH Core 1.100v .......................[1.100 - 1.200]
ICH I/O 1.500v ........................[1.5]
ICH Core 1.1v .........................[1.1]
DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. [1.64]
DRAM Termination 0.750v.......... [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]
I ran Linx 20 and its perfectly stable :)
Im running F9d Bios.. I find i can get the highest bclk on standard volts with this bios so I have kept it..
Out of all F13 betas the F13M is the one that give me back my OC (4200 with low voltage 1.24V) from the F9... :up:
Hello
Firs excuse my english.
I have buy a GA.X58A-UD5 rev.2 and I am not sure abotut the memory to choose.
I am looking for compatility and no problems
I have to choose between
F3-12800CL9T2-12GBNQ (2Gx6)
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=110
or
OCZ 3x2GB DDR3-1600
OCZ3G1600LV6GK Gold Ed.
LowVolt 8-8-8-24 1.65V
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...triple_channel
OCZ 3x2GB DDR3-1866
OCZ3G1866LV6GK Gold Ed.
LowVolt 10-10-10-28 1.65V
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...le_channel_kit
Can you help me? What is the best choice?
I have seen also
Runs well OCZ3P2000LV6GK on GA-X58A-UD5 rev.2?
The kit OCZ3P2000LV6GK is compatible with my matherboard (runs well on UD5 rev.2)?
And the kit OCZ3P1600C6LV6GK?
Thanks regard
Hello guys,
I'm here with a problem and would like to know if someone already had something similar or who has heard of this, my gigabyte board X58-UD5 apparently has 1 memory slot (White Slot) that is not working.
I use triple channel 3x1GB but the funniest thing is that in the My Computer properties says "3GB (2GB Being Used)" , and CPU-Z also detects the 3GB and in triple channel, however when I turn the PC says that detects only 2GB of memory, I tried switching bios (F9 to F12) but no resulte,
Can someone can tell me anything about this?
Because i didnt want to send this to RMA and not having a PC for a while appreciate all the answers.
Regards.
You want to solve the problem? No problem but you'll think it's freaky idea.
I'm telling you that it's working so... get the tooth brush and clean the socket pins. Yes you heard me!
And another thing, what cooler do you have?
I just resolved the problem strange but logical, 1 of my CPU socket pins wasnt exactly lined up once i got it straight and got the CPU in and my Cooler (H50) everything worked fine, its strange but i got it to work that way :) so if it happens to you guys now you know :)
That's nothing strange. One socket pin wasn't in contact with the cpu pin which was surely one of the important IMC contacts. As I said before, you can resolve this problem with the tooth brush method. Been there, done that (I know for 4 cases of that).
Bent pins or Over tight / not tight enough heat sink will do that also as the memory controller is inside the cpu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Godmyster
the waterblock cost $140 bucks? holy :banana::banana::banana::banana:.
Put it in the classifieds - it doesn't belong here and will get you in trouble with the mods. There are very specific rules regarding the use of this forum to sell hardware and they take it pretty seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by mlee49
It has nothing to do with resurrecting a thread, it's where you are and are not allowed to sell hardware. There is a classifieds section for a reason - I believe that part the ToS you agreed to when you created your account here outlines specifically that you aren't to attempt to sell things outside of the classifieds.Quote:
Originally Posted by mlee49
I was simply warning you that attempting to sell hardware outside the classifieds can get you banned - I was trying to do you a favor. I don't really care, I'm not going to buy it.
Hi all!! Tell me pls, what at you the maximum @BCLK result without pci-e mod motherboard? I have reached the maximum limit BCLK 228, but i want more :D And i'm think about pci-e mod...
I think you've already hit the limit without pcie. There's no rule how much will you gain with the mod. Depends on your cpu wall under air cooling.
You're lucky to break 220Bclk.Quote:
Originally Posted by .fx
It was cold, the computer stood on a balcony at -11 degrees behind a window. In usual conditions and the same options the computer couldn't start :)Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
its not big problem i think :rolleyes:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullet92
I heard that ud5 with pci-e mod can bclk239 and it is 5019 mhz with i7 920, it just that that is necessary to me (for cpu-z) :yepp:
Tell me plz, what are the best bios for max bclk and stability for ga-ex58-ud5? Now I use F7.
F12Quote:
Originally Posted by .fx
the best.
Than it is better f7?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrea deluxe
yea!Quote:
Originally Posted by .fx
look more stable and have a good memory compatibility without any issues at all.
i have no problems with up to F13m. Trying F13o and it looks good might be the same as 13m for me.
On F12 has caught three screen of dead for two hours, come back to f9. As always, the best is the enemy of the good ;)
PS A'm sorry, initially there was f9 bios instead of f7 :rolleyes:
Owners GA-X58A-UD7!!! Tell me pls, can i instal cpu cooler like Thermalright Silver Arrow/ IFX-14/ Noctua NH-D14 to Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 with
http://i070.radikal.ru/1012/48/8e5248eec6a5t.jpg
installing on motherboard
http://s014.radikal.ru/i329/1012/3d/a519d683224at.jpg
?
F12 is great , it gave me the lowest Vcore @3.8 , only 1.09 , and very stable
http://www13.0zz0.com/2010/12/07/19/567032310.jpg
Yes, Noctua fits just fine (memory -> I/O panel direction), little problem for my big hands is first pcie x16 graphic card release switch, but that's not connected with cpu coolingQuote:
Originally Posted by .fx
nobody that tested the 13q bios ? its the latest @ http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...test-bios.html
My current cpu has issues with all biosses above F7 (cannot set the uncore multi)
But i now got a new 6 core cpu so i have to upgrade :)
Q has been fine for me, although suffers from the same issue as I have with all the F13 bioses:
1. After verifying DMI I get a minutes pause with dots appearing, cant even power down during it. If I hit F12 instead to choose the boot device, I do not get it.
2. MS Reclusa keyboard seems to play up in POST. Either my pressing delete for BIOS is ignored or it causes it to hang on next screen.....Any other keyboard and its fine :S
i tried the f13j bios from giga's site.. i got a higher bclk but it would not recognise my nvidia cards. ill try the f13m later when I get back.
it also would allow my 920 to 21x? nice.... :) with turbo 22x?
ok, got the 22x wrong for the cpu haha. but i have been on f9d for ages.. still have no recognition of my g cards with f13 bios's tho, no matter which one i try. any suggestions? I am currently on f12 bios and cant seem to get it past bclk 226. what volts do you guys use to get past this?
its a shame im mb limited. my cpu has so much more left in it :(
Moved -> Here
hey all,
Just picked up a ga-ex58-ud5 rev 1.0 from microcenter for $70 nib. I blew up my evga board I've been using for 2 years, and figured I'd go with this since the price was right.
I've been reading this thread and getting a lot of mixed ideas about what bios to put on this board.
The cpu I have is an early i7 920 D0, 3849B018. On my evga board I was able to get 4.5ghz (215x21) with ~1.35v vcore under water on 24x7. I could get upwards of 4.7ghz bootable and bench stable. Processor runs very hot though.
Memory is OCZ3P1600LV6GK (3.2gb 1600 cas-7).
If anyone has any similar experience with a similar setup, please recommend a bios to start with.
thanks.
I recently ubdate my bios from F9 (which is best bios for me) to F12 which is even better than F9
i can say F12 is the best bios up to date .
I just got this board today, I'm running it with an i7 920 and 3 sticks of g skill DDR3, 1600 mhz.
My problem is both the LAN ports are dead, just don't work, I tried resetting the BIOS via the clear cmos both at the back and on the board.
When I go into the BIOS they're all enabled but the Smart LAN shows no sort of statistics, just blank.
I have updated my BIOS to the latest beta version available on the Gigabyte website, but again that has done nothing to help.
Is there a solution to this problem?
Thank you.
i use too F12 very stable my max. boot in windows without mods 225x19-12 pci 103
http://www.abload.de/thumb/225191madxp.jpg
Nah your cpu limited.. with 226blck your already above the 4000MT/s for the QPI bus which causes instability. You can try to increase pci-e frequency a bit, caues this usually helps with higher blcks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enzo78
Plus anyone know what changed in the F13q beta? havent been on the ball for all the recent betas, im still on f13k.
guys i am on the EX58-EXTREME again and would like to know the best bios to date..
I've just got one of these boards too, is the best BIOS F12?
Also, could anyone tell me if they have had any issues on boot using a USB k/b? I'm having to use a PS2 k/b on boot and switch to a USB :shrug:
Have I missed something in the BIOS, USB mse and k/b are both enabled :confused:
Regards
F12 suffers usb keyboard bug, use one of the F13 betas. Afair F13k introduced a bugfix for some keyboards, like the G19.
Cheers
There is an F13k on the Giga site
Any others floating about?
i have tried the f13q and was also able to compare it from f12 the difference is f12 was giving better OC results with lower voltages..f13 allows me to add 2 notches up on the same setting on f12..also a noticeable points on vantage with f13q also in super pi a nano second cut from a f12 run for the price of 2 voltage notches up..
anyone on the same boat??will try the f9's if they can give the same noticeable increase from f13q..
PS:i did not have any USB keyboard probs on the F12..maybe a minor glitch or sumthin..
hello, would anybody be so kind to post a stable config for 24/7 rig [ex58 extreme/i7-920-D0/3x2g-exceleram]
10ks
As in my sig I have 6GB RAM installed. It was showing 6GB yesterday... anyone have any idea why the BIOS and windows reports only 4GB now? CPU-z and CPU tweaker both show 6GB :confused:
Voltages? BIOS bug? (I'm on F12)
Edit: Put 6GB of Geil Ultra in instead and it works like a charm.. go figure :rolleyes:
Hey all, Its been some time since I last posted. I am currently trying some different bioses with my new i7 970. So far I have not seen any performance gains or voltage differences to really speak of. with the f9 bios it will allow me to overclock my 1600mhz ram to 1800mhz. f13m just crashes. All I need to do is leave my voltage for the ram on auto and it will pull whatever it needs. When it gets colder outside I will continue to push this chip. I am currently running vantage at 4.5 ghz with 1.4125 vcore volts. qpi volts are at 1.335. I was doing 4.525 with less volts I think around 1.4. But my max cpu temps were 52 degrees. Now with my rad inside I will see max temps of around 80. This will force me to use more volts. This chip rocks
I just moved from F7 to F13q. So far everything works well, but the computer would boot loop if I overclocked it even 1 MHz using the Auto memory settings I used in F7. Now that I have specified the memory timings it seems more stable than ever. With F7 my OC had creaped down to 161 MHz due to occasional random errors. So far with F13q it works fine at 167MHz (4.01 GHz). I'm temped to keep pushing it.
How do you guys gather those snazzy BIOS setting printouts? Do you type them in manually or is there a way to extract them? Yes, I tried searching.
hi, i just installed this board monday and see that there is site talked about for the beta bios but am unable to locate it. could you please give me the link for it?Quote:
Originally Posted by OfficerDibble
http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...beta-bios.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by hclarkjr
thanx for link. do they list changes for the beta bios? i have F13J on my board and am curious as to what changes were made and so forth.
Not touched my system in a while, but just got my hands on some Kingston HyperX T1's.
A couple of questions:
1 - Whats the best BIOS around for the EX58-UD5 (currently on f9e)??
2 - Anyone have some example settings for getting this RAM stable at 2000ghz whilst getting my chip to 4.2ghz (with Turbo on so 20 x 200)?
Thanks in advance
To get RAM at 2000 you must set uncore speed @ 4000mhz, but require more v-qpi volt for run stable!
Around 1,35/1,45v
For the timings you can load XMP profile
Andrea what kind of memory are you using to get that high of a settings?
Upped the volts and now sat nicely at 1910 @ 9-9-9-27 1T.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrea deluxe
There is more in both my chip and this RAM, but happy for now :D
Many thanks :D
Hello guys.
I can't seem to find any thread about gigabyte ga-x58a-ud5 Rev. 1, so is it okay to ask in this thread?
if it is, i will ask you about what BIOS is the best for Rev. 1?
and when will the new X58A-OC board be out?
best regards.
Anyone have tried the latest F13t ???
I am wonder if is any better then the others F13 in OC.
F12's give me some USB (mouse) issues.
Can I ask what mouse / usb issues you have been having?? (also, what mouse you use?)Quote:
Originally Posted by euonline
Thanks
Many times when the system starts, I can not move the mouse. Funny that the mouse buttons works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonny Manc
Try with logitech wireless and ocz cable. Same problem, it is a random situation.
I randomly get a similar problem regarding my Roccat Kone mouse, though it works fine on startup but it will just stop working sporadically forcing me to pull the plug out and put it back to get it to work again!?
No other USB item I use causes the same problem......BIOS issue maybe?
My Roccat Kone Plus works fine on F9m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonny Manc
You updated the roccats firmware to its latest rls ?
Yeah, firmware up to date....though I have just gone to the 1.42 driver version, so I guess we'll see from here!?Quote:
Originally Posted by DoomSayer
Cheers
Hello guys, ive been trying to get my i7 920 C0 stable @ 4ghz with no luck, even trying lots of different volts, and playing with the settings, so im stuck at 3.8ghz (stable only with turbo, so its basically 3.6ghz) :shakes:
This are my settings,
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [21x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled] - Disabled & Enabled depends what i test, with enabled im stable, but i want to get at least 3.8ghz without turbo, and my goal is 4ghz without it.
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
Uncore Frequency .......................... (x16)
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [x8]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Manual-8 8 8 24]
Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [Disabled]
CPU Vcore ...............................1.375 (show 1.296 (cpuz) during OCCT linkpack testing on average, and goes to 1.31 at short periods)
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............1.295
CPU PLL 1.800v .......................1840
IOH Core 1.100v .....................1.20
ICH I/O 1.500v .......................1.60
ICH Core 1.1v ........................1.160
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.620
All power saving options are off.
I got 6GB ram, and GA-EX58 mobo..BIOS is F12, and btw my temps are fine even with crazy high vcore 1.45 i get like 78 max after 5/6 mins or Prime, before it crash that is.
Now when i test OCCT i get error on linkpack tests, after 5/6 mins, on 3.8ghz without turbo. On 3.9/4ghz prime95 testing i get BSOD 101 or 124 which as far as i know low or incorrect voltage, so i try to set many different numbers (even 1.45 vcore/vtt but all failed, the only stable option for me is 3.6ghz with turbo on (3.8) so any help will be highly appericated :up:
P.S. Is the f12 still the "best" BIOS for this mobo? if not what you suggest?
When I had my C0, I had to turn hyperthreading off to get to 4.00GHz at a reasonable votlage.
Thanks for the respons, ill try it, even im not fan of having -4 (cores/threads)Quote:
Originally Posted by nipper575
My only other suggestion is to turn LLC (Load Line Calibration) on as it reduces the vdroop you experience when the CPU is put under heavy load. You should be able to lower your Vcore in the bios.
I know what you mean in regards to running 4 less threads than the CPU is able to provide. It was the reason I sold my 940 for the current 920 D0 I run now. In all honestly, having HT on at 4 GHz hasn't made my PC "feel" any quicker, but it was just something I wanted to do.
You should be able to hit 4.00GHz and drop your vcore considerably with HT off, maybe to around 1.275V - 1.300V in the bios (with LLC enabled) depending on your chip.
Thanks for the detailed response dude, but here is the issue. Isnt LLC a bad thing? as far as i know it does make big voltage spikes and its really stressing the cpu, but on the other hand now when you give me the tip i rememeber then in the past few days i saw many users use this, and on top of that Gigabyte have 3 levels of LLC settings in the BIOs or im wrong? (never used LLC before) so i will need some tips about this levels/settings, thanks one more time :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by nipper575
I'll try to answer as accurately as possible, just realise that I am speaking from my own experiences which are not to be taken as gospel.
In regards to LLC, I have never seen it cause voltage spikes with this motherboard, I think the voltage spike characteristic of having LLC enabled is a thing of the past (old motherboards seemed to suffer this problem from what I remember reading). I've owned my EX58-EXTREME motherboard since about 1 month after they were released and it has never had a stock clocked CPU on it, LLC has always been enabled.
As to how many levels of LLC there are, I've reverted to using the F9 bios which only has an enabled|disabled option. Whether the newer bios revisions have another option is not something I know, I have witnessed different levels on newer boards though. Someone else here will have to answer that for you. The only difference between having multiple options would be the aggressiveness that the voltage is adjusted under load conditions. If my board had these options, I would start at the lowest setting and go from there if needed.
LLC is fine to use. Just enable LLC level 1. level 1 removes the vdroop. level 2 removes the vdrop and vdroop. level 2 tends to over volt by a bit.
Thanks alot guys, so my next step is this.Quote:
Originally Posted by acebmxer
1.Turn of HT.
2. Turn on LLC (does F12 has different levels?)
3. And i think about changing the ram timings, use 9-9-9-24 instead of 8-8-8-24? does ram timings effects stabillity?
Thanks one more time :up:
P.S. One more thing, i never understand how to tune the VTT, some say 0.5? but what that means? 0.5 compared to what? sorry im a bit noob with OC :)
Try HT off
I dont remember if that board does levels or just enabled or disabled. Either way set it to either enabled or Level 1.
Vtt needs to be no more then 0.5v less then Vdimm. So if you need 1.6v vdimm your qpi/vtt needs to be 1.15 or higher. If you need 1.7vdimm then qpi/vtt needs to be 1.215 or higher... Actual values will vary with board.
Ok, im quite sure my ram is the problem, its cheap A-DATA (budget) ram, how do i know the ram is the problem?
Whenever i turn off turbo, i cant pass OCCT linkpack test or either LINX (full ram testing metod) reason for that is that with turbo (on) the memory ferq is lower then without, (around 15xx vs 1600 @ 4ghz w/o turbo) now im not sure if turbo is increasing the memory ferq during load but im stable that way, and if i turn off turbo and set 4ghz the tests fail after 2 mins or so....BSOD 124/101 now i know this means more vcore/vtt or lower, but i tried crazy high settings and the test still crash, so im quite sure the memory cant go over 15xx mhz. Other then that one more thing makes me wonder...why i cant even boot with memory set at around 1300 mhz with x6 multy and uncore x12? i tought to try that way so i can avoid being memory limited, but that way i cant even boot...let alone testing, what could be the reasone for this i dont know :( the timings i use atm are 9-9-9-24.
So the ultimate question, pros and cons having turbo on? does turbo mode make the default cpu clock lower (until you put stress on the cpu) and if thats the case, how much stress does it require? 10% load? or much more? is turbo active while everyday tasks?
Thanks guys.
P.S. Im testing with Hypertreading enabled, i tried without it but i get similar results.
At least whilst you are still testing, keep HT off as you would be hard pressed to get to 4.00GHz on a C0 with it enabled, not without considerably more voltage than having it disabled.
Set your RAM timings to what the manufacturer recommends. Do you have a link for the RAM that you are using? Another thing to try is putting the uncore on 2 x RAM multi + 1 (x17).
As far as I'm concerned, there is no HUGE drawback to having a lower base clock whilst using turbo mode to compensate for it. Obviously your RAM will not clock up as high as it can only run at the base clock x the RAM multiplier. Your CPU will be able to utilise a multiplier that is one level above the norm.
So for example if your base clock is set to 200MHz with turbo on, your CPU will hit 4.20GHz. With turbo off with the same base clock, you will reach 4.00GHz. That same difference (200MHz) is experienced whilst idling when the multiplier scales down (if C1E and EIST are enabled).
Quote:
Originally Posted by nipper575
To bad i got no link or either know what model of ram it is, i know only the brand.. its some budget ram which i bought cause it was the only model available when i bought my pc 2 years ago...
Can you please suggest me some good not very expensive ram, because i think if i got better ram (1600mhz with low default voltage) i could get 4ghz without turbo (im quite sure my chip is decent) and after all almost of all my components are high quallity the only bad part is the ram so i dont want to have "bottleneck" - low quallity...parts on my system.
So i guess ill keep on testing with Turbo on and HT off/on (will try both) and post results. Btw how good is this mobo regarding oc? this thread is huge and i got no time to read it all, so can you give me sone info about this mobo and what BIOS is best to use as well, i have been told the F12 is the best on this forums, but maybe there is some new beta version which could help me with the oc, thanks for your time alot :up:
If you download CPU-Z and click on the memory tab, it should tell you what timings to run at a specified frequency.
I've never really known which brands of RAM outperform others as it seems to have such a small effect from one system to the next as long as the capacity is the same, that is my experience anyway. I've used Kingston, Patriot, Corsair, G.Skill, OCZ and some other lesser known brands that escape me. They have all at the very least run up to the specification set by the manufacturer.
Unless someone else can recommend something, my recommendation would be to buy RAM that is from a reputable manufacturer, rated to the necessary speed you are chasing so you don't have to OC it and worry about instability and looks nice if you are into aesthetics. Timings have never really done much for me, I'm not really a bencher, my PC is for gaming and other than the amount of RAM in my PC, little else to do with the RAM makes any difference.
As for how good these boards are for OCing, I have no complaints but then I've never really needed to go past 4.00GHz. I think your CPU will limit your OC before the motherboard does. I've used a heap of different bios revisions, betas and finals, I haven't really had a stand out. I've reverted to the F9 bios, I can't for the life of me remember why but it is stable for me. Other than using the early revisions, you shouldn't have any real problems other than incompatibilities with usb keyboards, sleep mode etc...
Sorry for the vague advice, but it's been years since I've really needed to look into the nitty gritty of this subject.
Most i7-920s like Odd Multis. If your not going to use turbo set multi to 19. If you want turbo set multi to 20 or 21 in bios. Uncore 2x memory multi or 2x+1 or +2. Some cpu are more stable with 2x+1 vs 2x. (you have to play with this) Higher uncore, bclk, memory multi all will require higher qpi/vtt voltage. Higher cpu multi or cpu speed will need more vcore.
Post a full bios template of your current settings for the given speed that is failing you.
for x58 0x124 is qpi/vtt 0x101 is vcore. If one of these is "WAY" out the error codes can reverse.
From what I have seen i7-920 c0's require alot more vcore to get stable then D0's.
Thanks alot guys, higly appericated, some great tips and suggestions there :up:
And about the ram, i dont care also about timings or speed, what i care is good memory for oc stability etc, but what is confusing for me is next,
Lets say i buy 1600mhz memory kit which is rated at 1.8v, does this means that i will have to use very high qpi vtt to follow the 0,5 rule? lets say 1.4 vtt for 1.8v rated ram? or i can just lower the ram at 1.6/1.65 and start from there? will this metod cause instabillity regarding the ram itself? does memory run good at lower volts then the default ones? thanks one more time.
Will post full template later sorry, atm im to tired :(
P.S. Omg, acebmxer...that clock is insane..how did you manage 4.5ghz ? are you on water?
Update,
the great just become awesome!
I managed to lower the vcore alot, from 1.41 to 1.38 (BIOS) and cpuz shows 1.344.
My temps are amazing as well :)
Thanks all for your help, highly appericated, i tried 4.2ghz but no luck till now, im ok with 4.1ghz for now tbh :)
Noctua NH D14 with AC MX-4, i7 920C0 @4.1ghz (22c ambient room)
http://oi53.tinypic.com/2jctulg.jpg
And just for reference,
Nexus FLC 3000 with AC MX-4, i7 920C0 @4ghz (21c ambient room)
http://oi53.tinypic.com/n5t2zm.jpg
Ownage.
Good work.
Here are my settings for 4.5ghz.Quote:
Originally Posted by psyside
Code:Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Disabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]
Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
Uncore Frequency .......................... 17X (Always 2x memory Multi or 2x +1)
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]
Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................215
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [103]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Extreme]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [8X]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Manual]
Channel A + B + C
Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................8
tRCD .......................................8
tRP .........................................8
tRAS .......................................20
Below values may be left in Auto if you like, generally this is fine. For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread
##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................ Auto (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
tRRD ....................................... Auto
tWTR ...................................... Auto (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
tWR ........................................ Auto
tWTP ....................................... Auto (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
tWL ........................................ Auto (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
tRFC .......................................80
tRTP .......................................Auto
tFAW ......................................Auto
Command Rate (CMD) ................T1
##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...................Auto
B2B CAS Delay ..........................Auto
Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [Level1]
CPU Vcore ...............................Normal (My VID is 1.2500)
DVID.......................................+0.0500
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............1.355
CPU PLL 1.800v .......................1.50
MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ...........................1.50
QPI PLL 1.100v .......................Auto
IOH Core 1.100v .....................Auto
ICH I/O 1.500v .......................Auto
ICH Core 1.1v ........................Auto
DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. 1.62
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Hey guys, its me again lol.
Here is the thing, with my latest stable oc, which is posted few links above, i get some instability issues (only during LINX) and i know why....the vcore drops ALOT, i set 1.387vcore in BIOS and during Linx load, it goes as low as freaking 1.34 :/ what i find even more frustrating is that, im fairly sure my chip is great, why? because even at (vdrop during load) - 1.34vcore/1.4BIOS (@4.150mhz) the Linx test aint drop fail like 12 mins! its quite a good chip. So in order to avoid this big Vdrop, i had to increase the vcore to (huge 1.41), after that @WIN the default vcore is 1.40 and load is 1.36, now i can get the system stable this way but hey, 1.39 is totaly unnececarry for my cpu at idle....it could be stable at 1.35/1.37 during load! not 1.40 idle, is there anyway to work around this??? please help! its really frustrating...after i notice this im sure my chip can go even further, 4.2ghz easy...if i just find way to fix this, even this is a C0, but i guess a good one.
Few more questions,
1. Is this motherboard issue, BIOS issues or what?
2. Does ram, or any other components affect this?
3.Temps maybe? ( i got fantastic cooling, NH D14 + HAF 932, 1.41 vcore @4.1ghz max temp - 20mins LINX - during summer - 74c..
4 Anything other then this? :( chip degradation lol?
Does the new Z68/P67 have this issues as well?
P.S. LLC is on and also CPU Thermal Monitor is on, not sure if i should turn off this, it kinda scare me...
P.P.S. Both Cpuz and Eeasytune, show same vcore (during load) so its not false reading.
Bump :(
Come on guys, anyone?
Use LLC2.
Quote:
Originally Posted by psyside
@psyside the only thing i can say is if your cpu needs that to be stable then thats what it needs and if the vdrop and vdroop are to much for you then you need a x58a-ud5 rev2. Also C0/c1 cpus need more vcore then d0's. If you dont want to buy a new motherboard or a cpu then you need to add more vcore to correct the problem. You could try Dvid. Set vcore to normal then dvid option can be changed. The left colum has your cpus Vid. lets say its 1.25. You need 1.4v for your overclock so you would set dvid to +0.1500 to equal 1.4v at load and vcore should drop at idle if c1e and intel speed step are enabled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatbird
@fatbird orginal ud5 only has llc disabled or enabled no levels of llc. thats why he would need the newer ud5. It has standard=disabled level 1 and level 2.
Thanks alot man,didnt knew i need c1 and speed step enabled, but will this reduce overlock (load test) stability?Quote:
Originally Posted by acebmxer
One more thing, how is speed step labeled on GB mobos/BIOS?
Thanks one more time!
As for stabitly all depends on cpu motherboard/bios. my old ud5 could not do dvid think after 200 bclk. new ud5 has no dvid issues but ater FC bios i think i lost c3-c6 support after 200 bclk.
Some times Dvid can have less vdrop/vdroop not always.
Should be Eist under advanced cpu features
Thanks dude :)
Any thoughts on this guys? I have a UD5 board. My internet keeps dropping. Although i can ping anything on my network. So only internet goes down. It doesn't go down for anything on my network. I have bypassed my router even, same issue. reloaded windows same issue. Cables has been replaced. Both my nic's drop it. I am baffled and about ready to pitch the damn board because i cant play games like this. Looking for any ideas at this point. But I have tried pretty much everything but replacing the mobo with the onboard nic.
I would start by recommending the basics. Update to the latest lan driver, make sure you have the latest bios version also might want to try to use a modded bios with the latest Lan rom.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustusIV
Also are you running overclock. If you settings are not stable any more that could cause the nics to flake out.
Actually i found out the cause not sure why or what, but running two 5870's in crossfire caused it. Pulled one out and bam started working. I did all the basic's so something weird is causing it. Anyone have issues with running crossfire causing something similar? i ran a ping test that recorded and i dropped 8% of all pings. for a whole day. pulled the cards, haven't dropped one since.Quote:
Originally Posted by acebmxer