My bad brother:D Sorry about that! Brain Fart I supposes=--= :p: :rofl:
3/12/2008 Beta Rocked with that CPU and as stable with Dual Core as 11/22/2007:up:
My bad brother:D Sorry about that! Brain Fart I supposes=--= :p: :rofl:
3/12/2008 Beta Rocked with that CPU and as stable with Dual Core as 11/22/2007:up:
arrgh had a lockup, now priming with only one grafics card..
oh no not the third psu in one year :( arrgh i did never have lockups with that board..
oh i can't believe... 41amps on 12v combined is not enough????
Brother Esau, have you considered water cooling or a TEC cooler for your Phenom yet? For that matter, have or do any of you run one of those cooling setups?
mmh i dont think its the psu, i get a 12,24v at idle and 12,15v at 3dmark load... that should not be that problem..
now priming at 3,5ghz 1,456v, perhaps its really because of the 4gb set.. i'll test with one kit tomorrow..
Guys
Serious question. How many of you have issues entering bios with a phenom even when you are 100% stable?
I have an issue here with my M2R that seems Phenom related, im going to make sure with the 6400+ again also and I have an RMA authorized but I have seen others having the same problem.
Boots fine, hit delete, board starts to enter bios, hangs with blue bar and flashing cursor...hit reset, same again, hit reset, same again, hit reset..hit delete just after the sata drives have loaded on the splash screen and boom into bios.
anyone else seeing this, is there a work aaround?\
T
I have the same problem with a X2. The board has to boot once before trying to get into biosQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
I actually have a CoolIt Eliminator that works awesome but needs to be RMA'edQuote:
Originally Posted by Mechromancer
These Bios are Flaky Tony and have corrupted my Bios Chip on more then one occasion:rolleyes: what I have found is that throwing the chip on the programmer with current Bios does not work! You need to throw your chip on your EEProm Programmer Erase that MoFo and start with Initial release 11/7/07 Then Update to 11/22/07 through DOS Clear Cmos and boot and let it Build the DMI Pool do the usual rigga maro hange out on desktop for a while and make sure all is well and then Re-Flash the Bios you want Through DOS don't ask me why but thats what I have seen on many occasions on my end and it does not make sense nor should it be that way but it is and it does straighten something out in some shape or form but its a major pain in the ass to have to go through all of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Just got a Phenom 9850 and so far i've got it to CPU 2900MHz and NB 2400MHz.
Currently running Boinc to see how stable it is at this speed. So far i'm quiet pleased ~1 hour stable in Vista x64.
Heres a pic:
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5148/29002400bz0.jpg
tony which bios release are you talking about exactly? I did not encounter that with my x2's..
@ be: look at my last prime run last night, it seems stable with that rather high vcore.. currently trying to manage getting it stable at stock with 01/30 bios..
but i think it was a little too much as5... got about 3°C lower now, perhaps that will be the solution..
My Turn!
Here's where I am now:
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9408/torture1ei9.jpg
This is after a few hours of running Prime95 on and off and messing around with other things.
THE STORY OF THE BUILD:
G.Skill 8500C5 2x2Gb:
When I first booted I had put the ram into slots #1 and #2... and it wouldn't go past the C1 on the readout, scaring the crud out of me. So I switched to slots #3 and #4 and it booted okay at 800. <phew> Then I realized that I needed to use #1 & #3 OR #2  for the ram to be dual mode; it is completely different than my old motherboard. So I used #1 and #3. No problems... again at 800. I went in and set the ram to 2.1 Volts (as the G.Skill rep says to do on these forums.) and manually told it to go to 1066 left everything on AUTO on the timing page. It booted 1066, ganged, 2T, but at 5-7-7-20-41. So I then manually input 5-5-5-20-41 and that worked find. (I also messed with unganged.)
SOME OVERCLOCK
Then I increased the multipler on the CPU to 15.00 and that worked okay but gave a Prime95 error after about an hour. I didn't want to increase the CPU voltage so I backed it to 2.9Ghz. Preparing for an all night burn-in test.
TESTING & TEMPERATURES:
Anyway... priming away. I will go all night at 2.9Ghz and see how that works. My CPU temps are 58-73 at load depending on whether I run the CPU fan at full blast or the slowest speed. (I have a four knob Thermaltake fan control system with multi-colored LED. Blue/Green/Red. Can you say OOOOHHH? It was a splurge purchase when I was on vacation in Vegas. We don't have big giant computer stores here.)
The GPU temp went up because while the PRIME95 was using 100% of the 4 CPU cores I also ran NVidia Cascades on my other monitor. (I wanted to test hte case cooling since everything moved around a LOT inside the case.) The vid temp never appears to go above about 58C at load. VERY good for a 8800GTS. The Thermalright HR-03Plus is GREAT.
CRAZINESS
The only thing "crazy" now is the temperature of the mainboard. The sensors seem to be off because it is NOT that hot to the touch. I have not mounted the TRANSPIPE thing yet but I can't see that really lowering that temperature that much. (I'll mount that up after I verify all is going well.)
BIOS
The board came with the 12/11/2007 bios and I flashed to 3/07/2008. No real difference that I could notice other than they moved things around a bit.
NOTE: I haven't reloaded windows yet. I just plugged in my hardware raid card and ran what was loaded. (You gotta love that.)
CONCLUSION
I'm a happy puppy. Tomorrow I'll mess with voltages and see how high it can go. (I'll probably go back down to stock or just above when I'm done playing around.) Time for bed... it's 2:30 and I gotta get up in a few hours. <grin>
(And I think the G.Skill 8500 memory worked just fine. I might grab two mores sticks soon. Not because I need them today... but because I'd rather have matching RAM a year or so down the road when I might need them. Oh and SIDE BENEFIT: This motherboard gives you about 3.3 MB of ram when you have 4Gb. My old only gave 3.0. But I'll load Vista64 tomorrow probably.)
@jaivan@keithml
Can you run sandra benchmarks above 2.85GHz without freezing?
Guys
around 1.375V CPU and 1.375V NB is where the CPU here starts to take off, much more ont he NB does not help, CPU core at 1.475 looks to get me 3.4GHZ. Note that i was setting less on the DQ6 but I have a feeling the droop was less also.
small update.. stock vcore now seems stable :up:
Oli heres the highest I benched that 6400+ BE on low voltage (Look @ SG) and never went higher was going to try for more when I got my TEC back from CoolIt but....lol ...I still haven't sent the damn thing in yet:p: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&postcount=97
Which one in particular? (I have run a lot of them... but not all... it was too late last night.)Quote:
Originally Posted by justapost
NOTE: I did get an error on Prime95 after a few hours on one of the cores. So I'm back to stock for now. That's the way I am. I should also note that it was a different core than the error I got at 3.0Ghz... for which i"m happy. (So not just "a" bad core.)
Normally I would have let Prime95 run at STOCK all night... but I got excited and wanted to see more. So tonight I'll run it at stock all night to make sure I'm 100% good at stock. Maybe I'll run the Sandra benchmark WHILE the Prime95 runs on 3 cores. Won't give me good readings.. but it WILL stress things.
I might also try 1.375 volts to see if that helps it "take off" as Tony mentions. It doesn't seem to go over about 62C with the CPU turned on MAX for the Zalman 9700.
@Keithlm...........So the 2X2 G-SKILL (PC2-8500) Baby Blue Kit Boots fine @1066 Divider?
12/11/07 Official is actually a Beta Bios and quite Horrible :rolleyes: You will be much better off with Current 3/7/2008 Official except Temps are quite high on Read out in both Bios and SG ....I guess a Bug who knows.
I will be getting my 2x2gb OCZ Reaper HPC (PC2-8500) 2day will see what that brings with shipping SPD
Phenom 9850 BE arrives tomorrow
Yes sir...Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
And to repeat it for the record (and any google searches) the G.Skill Ram F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK 2x2Gb kit known as "Baby Blues" works just fine in my DFI 790FX-M2R motherboard.
It boots up at 1066 fine after you tell it to boot using that speed. (And at 5-5-5-20 after you set the timings... otherwise you get 5-7-7-20-41 as I said before.)
They booted fine with the 12/11/07 bios AND also the 3/7/2008 bios. As I mentioned there was the problem using marked slots #1 and #2... and getting a stop at the C1 on the readout which made me panic for a bit. (Since that was the problem seen before.) But switching slots fixed that problem. Or maybe it just needed a few minutes with the juice turned on. Need to fill all those pipes with electricity you know.
yeah campbell seems like somewhere there is the wall for that chip. I think 3,5ghz at stock is quite nice and that seems to run really well, but i don't get it into windows even with 1,6v @ 3,6ghz.. perhaps one cold night i will take that thing out onto the balkony and do some benchies at 5°C water :D
4GB may be the Issue try a 2gb kit:)
These clocks @ 1.43-1.44 real:D Low voltage is received better on that chip then High Voltage so take your time and be patient ;)
P.S.........Stick with 11/22/2007 Official by far the best Bios for Dual core! Although I really enjoyed the 3/12/08 Beta Release but I never Pushed on it as I was primarily looking for stability and presence of bugs or inadequacies in the Bios compared to 11/22/07
Doubt you are interested but I will be selling My OCZ FLEX (PC2-9200) wich work exceptionally well with the DFI 790FX and P35 for that metter with very low voltage and have been ca5red for very well and never High or excessive voltage thrown on them ...Ever!
awesome is this that chip i own right now???
i really need a 2x1gb benchset :lol:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oese
Of course it is man, I don't sell stuff that isn't what I claim it to be;)
I pulled the pic from this post I made here in my Review.......http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&postcount=97
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oese
I think you do:D
Yea I understand the precaution but its MB, CPU and PSU related just as much as it is memory related, trust me :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
Just FYI, I did track the problem down and mentioned it in the MSI thread that the CPUs were not dead, even though they acted it initially but only that the BIOS has problems with them. It happens on all brand new Phenoms with those BIOSes too ;)
Hehe, I didn't say exactly that :DQuote:
Originally Posted by justapost
What I said was in connection to disabling TLB patch using Sams tool but I stated I didn't know if you can use MSR Editor to change to AOD Red Mode nor do I know how through MSRs ;)
yepp i saw it there beforehand... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau