What Car Do You Own?

Can't believe you guys were arguing about it. People have different styles, having a carbon fiber hood unpainted is a style. We all have different things we appreciate on our cars and also computers.

"we need to have respect for each other's ideas and for each other's hard work. I know it's hard to put one's preferences aside and respect things that we don't understand - it's so much easier to talk smack. Let's remember that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and though we may not agree with someone else's style, our world would be a much better place if we all had respect for each other. After all we are all just car people." - Rj de Vera, Modified Mag

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Originally Posted by Jokester_wild

Can't believe you guys were arguing about it. People have different styles, having a carbon fiber hood unpainted is a style. We all have different things we appreciate on our cars and also computers.

"we need to have respect for each other's ideas and for each other's hard work. I know it's hard to put one's preferences aside and respect things that we don't understand - it's so much easier to talk smack. Let's remember that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and though we may not agree with someone else's style, our world would be a much better place if we all had respect for each other. After all we are all just car people." - Rj de Vera, Modified Mag

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Well, where have you been? we bicker over everything around here, its like we all are a married couple :ROTF:

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Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Well, where have you been? we bicker over everything around here, its like we all are a married couple :ROTF:

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ROFL :rofl:

I say that all the time to people bickering at school all the time, they just give me a funny look... :rofl:

Thank god that's over.

No its not. ;)

:hehe: :hehe: :horse: :horse: :horse:

2007 Infinity M45 Sports is what i currently drive.

BMW dealer screwed me on my 550i. The Infinity store was next door, and the dealer offered it to me at 2g's below invoice after hearing how badly bmw screwed me over.


so in the end it came out okey. Not as fast as a 550i, but definitely the same amount of fun driving one.

And how did the BMW dealership play with you? Lease breakage costs ? Excess mileage charges ?

So. Cal. you say? One fine day, I hope to see you on the road.. and I won't be in a 997 :)


I like to see the GT-R with California catalytic convertors and American lame 93 octane gas lol... :)

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Originally Posted by IanY

And how did the BMW dealership play with you? Lease breakage costs ? Excess mileage charges ?

So. Cal. you say? One fine day, I hope to see you on the road.. and I won't be in a 997 :)


I like to see the GT-R with California catalytic convertors and American lame 93 octane gas lol... :)

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"California catalytic convertors" dunno about those but iirc the R32 Skyline had catalytic converter when it came out in 1989. I'm pretty sure that the emission laws in California are not any tighter than they are in Japan or Europe.

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Originally Posted by Nazu

"California catalytic convertors" dunno about those but iirc the R32 Skyline had catalytic converter when it came out in 1989. I'm pretty sure that the emission laws in California are not any tighter than they are in Japan or Europe.

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Nazu,

No... California is especially bad. That is not to say that the United States has any better emissions laws than any other country. Its just that the US government imposes ridiculous HP robbing emissions equipment. Again, that does not mean the US cars put out the lowest emissions. Quite to the contrary.

California in particular has the worst/strictest emissions laws of all fifty states. People often dread buying a used car from California if they live outside of California. Its as bad as 20 hp for some high horsepower cars. Its a nightmare. A lot of US states are following California's leadership in terms of emissions control, and soon, all fifty states will require cars to have those ridiculous catalytic convertors that kill all performance.

And I haven't gotten to the miserable 93 octane gasoline yet.

Thatis why I like doing my driving outside of the US in non-US cars.

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Originally Posted by IanY

Nazu,

No... California is especially bad. That is not to say that the United States has any better emissions laws than any other country. Its just that the US government imposes ridiculous HP robbing emissions equipment. Again, that does not mean the US cars put out the lowest emissions. Quite to the contrary.

California in particular has the worst/strictest emissions laws of all fifty states. People often dread buying a used car from California if they live outside of California. Its as bad as 20 hp for some high horsepower cars. Its a nightmare. A lot of US states are following California's leadership in terms of emissions control, and soon, all fifty states will require cars to have those ridiculous catalytic convertors that kill all performance.

And I haven't gotten to the miserable 93 octane gasoline yet.

Thatis why I like doing my driving outside of the US in non-US cars.

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Yeah I know that the emission laws are the strictest in California from all the US states, but how do they compare to Europe/Japan? That was my question. I also heard that they have different octane ratings in US than they have in Europe. So you can't directly compare them. Surely the US doesn't have _that_ crappy gas...

jesus from what i see here ye yanks should not be complaining about cat convertors in the Eu everycar has to have one.also In Ireland we think a 2.0 litre would be a very nice car while from looking around here you all drive 4-5 litres as the normal ,well i suppose our cars do cost +20,000$ then yours since we have to give 21% to the government.

one other thing that pisses me off you all complain about gas (petrol) prices in the US here in Ireland and most Eu countires we pay $6.41 per gallon.(converted)

so please stop your complaining

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Originally Posted by Nazu

"California catalytic convertors" dunno about those but iirc the R32 Skyline had catalytic converter when it came out in 1989. I'm pretty sure that the emission laws in California are not any tighter than they are in Japan or Europe.

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california is the most strict place in the world asfaik. i've heard of ppl getting 1k+ fines for not having cats, and some people can get their cars impounded.


i've never complained about gas prices, frankly i dont care.

luckily i live in tx, where the cops dont have sniffers on them, nor do they really care, although it is against the law to not have cats.

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Originally Posted by Nazu

Yeah I know that the emission laws are the strictest in California from all the US states, but how do they compare to Europe/Japan? That was my question. I also heard that they have different octane ratings in US than they have in Europe. So you can't directly compare them. Surely the US doesn't have _that_ crappy gas...

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Oh yes.. the US has the crappy 93 octane gas. Actually, the octane ratings are a little underestimated, at least compared to European 98 octane. However, the Corvette shows its 505 hp based on US gas. That is why when it gets to Germany, it kicks ass and takes names against all other 500-ish HP cars.

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Originally Posted by awhir

jesus from what i see here ye yanks should not be complaining about cat convertors in the Eu everycar has to have one.also In Ireland we think a 2.0 litre would be a very nice car while from looking around here you all drive 4-5 litres as the normal ,well i suppose our cars do cost +20,000$ then yours since we have to give 21% to the government.

one other thing that pisses me off you all complain about gas (petrol) prices in the US here in Ireland and most Eu countires we pay $6.41 per gallon.(converted)

so please stop your complaining

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The complaints were not about gas prices. I myself drive a 5.5 litre V8 car everyday.

I understand that Dutch prices are as high as US$9.50 a US gallon.

The complaints were about catalytic convertors and their effect on performance.

Talking about expensive cars, I was raised in a country where car ownership is among the most exhorbitant in the world. Take a standard family Honda Accord. The government imposes 350% tarriff on cars. Therefore, a $30,000 Honda Accord in the US would cost about US$140,000 new. But hold on a second. First, you need to buy the rights to buy a car. Of course, you pay that fee to the government. Its really an auction system, like Ebay. The rights to buy a car increases like crazy during the Christmas season because you quickly get out-bid by some other desperate dude. Based on a standard 2.0 litre engine, that costs about $50,000 to the government.

Now, you get to keep the car for only 10 years, after which it goes into the scrap yard. Don't think that you can trade it in either, because its worthless. Say, you have a true classic that is priceless and you refuse to take it to the junk yard... let's say a McLaren F1 or Ferrari F40.. those are more than 10 years old lol. The government will murder you on the extra taxes on classic cars. People pay enough to buy a house every year to keep the treasured cars they love.

Gasoline is relatively cheap (relatively) in that country, and costs about US$5.00 a gallon. Taxes. The taxes on a car with a 2.0 litre engine are about $10,000 a year (or about $100,000 a year on a Rolls Royce). Insurance. Forget about it. Basically, don't drive before you are 25 years old even if your dad buys you the new BMW M6.

Now we get to the fun part. The privilege to drive into the city during rush hour. Its about $8 per entry. Good luck if you need to leave the city and come back in during rush hour. Parking. Forget about it.

Don't try to speed either. The cops drive modified M3s.. yes BMW M3s and the latest models too. Either that or BMW RS bikes. All that in a country where it takes exactly 55 minutes to drive from one end of the country to the other end at the legal speed limit of 80 km/h on the highway. Yet, there are still ridiculously ostentatious cars there. The speeding ticket? Forget about it. Over-do the speeding and you become somebody's b1tch for the weekend lol :)

What country is this IanY? Sounds like a communist dictatorship.

Yeah... except that its one of the most prosperous countries on Earth. Double digit GDP growth, capital surplus, etc etc And it is a major U.S. naval base for the Indian Ocean. Sad isn't it?

Its Singapore.

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Originally Posted by IanY

Yeah... except that its one of the most prosperous countries on Earth. Double digit GDP growth, capital surplus, etc etc And it is a major U.S. naval base for the Indian Ocean. Sad isn't it?

Its Singapore.

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Yes its sad, however we live in the greatest country this planet has ever seen.

I myself am an emigrant. I love this country. So much so that sometimes I overlook its flaws.

skateboard.
dead serious too. I live 10 mins from school and 10 mins from work.

in a few months I'll likely be driving my dad's old mercedes, but I want to avoid the additional costs of fuel and insurance for the time being.

These are my cars.. (and my wifes)
2001 Audi Allroad
http://www.elmenhorst.no/willy/allroad.JPG

And 1996 Hummer H1
http://www.elmenhorst.no/willy/H1.JPG

Sick vehicles dude, I love'em both. They're both sweet in their own ways :cool:

thanks :)

If I could only keep one, it would be the Audi.
But I can't get myself to sell the hummer..

Is your H1 the TurboDiesel model or the gasoline model ? Thanks.

1962

Ferrari 250GTE

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Originally Posted by okorn

1962

Ferrari 250GTE

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Tight.... pretty boss ride.... :D