Nvidia confirms the GTX 580

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11-08-2010, 05:05 PM
GoldenTiger

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Originally Posted by Mad Pistol

GTX 580 looks like a pretty nice card. A 20% increase in performance while lowering power consumption on the same process is a great accomplishment.

Here's to hoping AMD delivers on the 6970. :)

Yeah, it looks nice... I was kinda hoping for MLAA in the drivers for the GTX 580 as a little surprise, I'll admit though. I was debating going for two of them but will likely just go for one to replace my GTX 470 SLI setup with a quieter, cooler single card. The other option of course is to wait for the 6970, which I do hope delivers... if it does I hope we'll see some good price drops (hmmmm maybe I should wait regardless!).
11-08-2010, 05:08 PM
safan80

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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Yeah, it looks nice... I was kinda hoping for MLAA in the drivers for the GTX 580 as a little surprise, I'll admit though. I was debating going for two of them but will likely just go for one to replace my GTX 470 SLI setup with a quieter, cooler single card. The other option of course is to wait for the 6970, which I do hope delivers... if it does I hope we'll see some good price drops (hmmmm maybe I should wait regardless!).

Yeah that sounds like a good idea. Look at the bright side you will pay less money ;) I'm hoping Nvidia will put two of these 485 gpus together and make an X2 card.
11-08-2010, 05:15 PM
zalbard

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Originally Posted by cowie

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N...GTX_580/1.html

So 15% faster on average, 10% coming from the higher GPU clock and 5% coming from the so called arch improvements... Well, it's okay, I guess. Runs cooler, which is nice. But far from impressive imo...
Will get stomped by Cayman most likely.
On a side note...

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeF..._2560_1600.gif

/facepalm

Why does 5870 beat GTX480 when 5870 is VRAM limited? And pretty low results in general, aren't they?

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeF..._2560_1600.gif

Hm, some tessellation improvements?
11-08-2010, 05:15 PM
Sn0wm@n

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Originally Posted by safan80

Yeah that sounds like a good idea. Look at the bright side you will pay less money ;) I'm hoping Nvidia will put two of these 485 gpus together and make an X2 card.

madness ... 2 300watt gpu's on a single board ??? ... :O are you mad ???
11-08-2010, 05:27 PM
JohnJohn

So, were it matters (1920 & 2560) 5970 keeps it own even with outdated drivers..? i don't really see were the BIG trouble AMD is in according to oslo? Nothing has changed, the only positive thing is that at last nvidia could get a full gf100 chip out.

This could have been a great chip 1 year ago, if Nv hadn't screwed so hard with gtx480
11-08-2010, 05:32 PM
xVeinx

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Originally Posted by Oztopher

I heard somewhere the reason for the lower power consumption is because they got rid of the 200mill transistors that were used for GPGPU purposes, correct me if i'm wrong.
:

This is the most likely scenario.
11-08-2010, 05:37 PM
spursindonesia

Hmm, plenty decent chip, especially regarding the drop in power consumption. :yepp: Performance is, well, not much surprise at all, simply like a full fledged GTX 480 with added clock, nothing groundbreaking, and TMUs stay at 64 per chip. Size is still quite large, around 520 mm^2 (by nVidia statement in TPU review). This is exactly what Fermi was supposed to be in winter last year, LOL. :D

There won't be much to gain from driver release outside respective games optimization, because the base mArch stays the same. I also don't think nVidia will try to make an official dual GPU board using this chip (the 300w PCIE sig restricition is still too limiting), but i can imagine AIB partners would be encouraged to make their own version of it. The competition will be intensified when Cayman arrives, we'll see. :)
11-08-2010, 05:37 PM
Silver Bullet

I don't think I'll ever being buying an NV GPU again (at least for my primary system). ATI has spoiled me with triple output on a single card and while some might thing Eyefinity is a bit of a gimmick it can't be beat. Sorry Nv ... better luck next time.
11-08-2010, 05:42 PM
GoldenTiger

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Originally Posted by Silver Bullet

I don't think I'll ever being buying an NV GPU again (at least for my primary system). ATI has spoiled me with triple output on a single card and while some might thing Eyefinity is a bit of a gimmick it can't be beat. Sorry Nv ... better luck next time.

I don't understand... a single 5870 isn't going to drive 5760x1200 well with 2x-4x AA, nor would a single GTX 470... so you would want two cards anyway which does enable you to do that with the nVidia solution. I'm sure they'll allow it next gen for the people who want to live with slideshow framerates, but *shrug*. Not sure what relevance that has to this thread?
11-08-2010, 05:43 PM
cegras

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Originally Posted by Sam_oslo

Hate? I think you misunderstand it. Open you mind, there is no place for hate about HW. We are not fighting here, we all have just different view which often has more common than we realize.

You are actually saying almost the same as I've been saying all the time. You agree 68xx is not match for GTX580, and I agree it is not spoused to be in the same class either, but then don't you agree that AMD should do something about it and get Cayman out, and it better arrive in time, and it better deliver what they promise, because otherwise AMD will be in big trouble?.

Um, I think what I'm driving at is that the GTX580's competitor has not been released yet, and as far as we know is not delayed, so let's wait and see.

As for preliminary benchmarks, it seems that the GTX580 is just as good as a 5970 at high resolutions which is lackluster given slim chance of huge driver improvements.

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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

I don't understand... a single 5870 isn't going to drive 5760x1200 well with 2x-4x AA, nor would a single GTX 470... so you would want two cards anyway which does enable you to do that with the nVidia solution. I'm sure they'll allow it next gen for the people who want to live with slideshow framerates, but *shrug*. Not sure what relevance that has to this thread?

a) It's not all about games, it's also about desktop productivity.
b) It's perfect for the games that are actually popular and not just passing blockbusters like the MW series: Valve games.
11-08-2010, 05:57 PM
Vipeax

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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

I don't understand... a single 5870 isn't going to drive 5760x1200 well with 2x-4x AA, nor would a single GTX 470... so you would want two cards anyway which does enable you to do that with the nVidia solution. I'm sure they'll allow it next gen for the people who want to live with slideshow framerates, but *shrug*. Not sure what relevance that has to this thread?

Uh, I will never swap my 6048x1200 for a bit of AA filtering.... never. AA was cool once I started to learn about real hardware (and not random oem crap), but a triple monitor setup is a billion times more fun. Sucks that the nVidia setup requires SLI. Costs a $1000 just to get 2 580s. And in a year they will be worth less than a GTX460 is now. :down:
11-08-2010, 06:01 PM
Tha Last Meal

I Remember some People here say the GF110 is fake the GTX 580 is fake....:rolleyes:....now the GF110 is real and the GTX 580 is real.I wonder who the noob now :D
11-08-2010, 06:02 PM
safan80

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Originally Posted by zalbard

So 15% faster on average, 10% coming from the higher GPU clock and 5% coming from the so called arch improvements... Well, it's okay, I guess. Runs cooler, which is nice. But far from impressive imo...
Will get stomped by Cayman most likely.

I agree that cayman will be stronger with how well barts already does. The only thing lacking on the Nvidia cards that I like and use for blu-ray playback is displayport.

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Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

madness ... 2 300watt gpu's on a single board ??? ... :O are you mad ???

Never!! Everybody wants more power! ;)
11-08-2010, 06:13 PM
Nintendork

HD5970 is still the uncontested king of the jungle (will Cayman challenge it?). Antilles will eat it for sure.

Nothing new it seems.
11-08-2010, 06:32 PM
Carfax

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Originally Posted by japamd

techPowerup! review is up!

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeF...mit2_small.jpg

:banana::banana::banana::banana:ing link is dead :(
11-08-2010, 06:33 PM
natty

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Originally Posted by Nintendork

HD5970 is still the uncontested king of the jungle (will Cayman challenge it?). Antilles will eat it for sure.

Nothing new it seems.

5970 are king(s) of the jungle so it doesn't count. :down:

gtx 580 = KOTJ
11-08-2010, 06:33 PM
bill_d

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Originally Posted by Carfax

:banana::banana::banana::banana:ing link is dead :(

two 580 blow a fuse :rofl:
11-08-2010, 06:40 PM
Silver Bullet

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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

I don't understand... a single 5870 isn't going to drive 5760x1200 well with 2x-4x AA, nor would a single GTX 470... so you would want two cards anyway which does enable you to do that with the nVidia solution. I'm sure they'll allow it next gen for the people who want to live with slideshow framerates, but *shrug*. Not sure what relevance that has to this thread?

I run F1 2010 at full 57x12 without issue. I don't really need 2x AA anyway. ATI also provide me with tri-display output for a much much lower cost and on a single card (space isn't something I have a lot).

It's also interesting that Nv hasn't figured out how to do something ATI has pushed out too almost all levels of their cards over the last year +.
11-08-2010, 06:43 PM
clayton

It still consumes too much power for a single GPU.
11-08-2010, 06:50 PM
Olivon

http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/106...c8195b1df1.jpg

870/1740

Extreme + factor, scale distance set to 2.0

Thanks to pinto :up:
11-08-2010, 06:57 PM
kuroikenshi

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Originally Posted by natty

5970 are king(s) of the jungle so it doesn't count. :down:

gtx 580 = KOTJ

single card dude, 5970 is the king because AMD was able to put two cypress into one single pcb, something the competition could not do, period
11-08-2010, 07:01 PM
Macadamia

Oooh pricecut time!

Sapphire's XXXX is now 499/469. If you want MLAA instead of CUDA it's not a bad time to get one of those.

Thanks nVidia :D
11-08-2010, 07:10 PM
kpablo

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Originally Posted by natty

5970 are king(s) of the jungle so it doesn't count. :down:

gtx 580 = KOTJ

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Originally Posted by kuroikenshi

single card dude, 5970 is the king because AMD was able to put two cypress into one single pcb, something the competition could not do, period

Lol fanboy wars... mine is better! no! mine is! no, mine is better! :rofl:

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Originally Posted by Nintendork

HD5970 is still the uncontested king of the jungle (will Cayman challenge it?). Antilles will eat it for sure.

Nothing new it seems.

In that TPU preview look like it is "contested"... ;P
11-08-2010, 07:12 PM
kuroikenshi

no fanboi wars here mate, I support nvidia's products as well, I have purchased from both companies, but a fact is a fact
11-08-2010, 07:16 PM
breakfromyou

so what happened to TPU? the site appears to be down at the moment...flooded with traffic?

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