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08-04-2007, 08:34 AM
Ace-a-Rue

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Originally Posted by RLM

Hadn't noticed this before, so not sure if this is new with this latest bios.

At boot up text comes up saying something like

Bios M629B_11.B04 Not for sale (Evaluation only)

No biggy I'm sure, just thought I'd mention it.

RLM

you are seeing the correct post screen if you have "B04" bios installed.
08-04-2007, 08:37 AM
Ace-a-Rue

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Originally Posted by Evilsizer

doesnt looked released to me.... i just checked out the www.abit.com.tw site and here for the bios
http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/downl...ET_TYPE=LGA775
still seeing just the bios10, looks like bios11 isnt ready for prime time just yet guys.

Abit is not the fastest website to get the latest bios posted into their bios selection area...usually the bios is put on their FTP server before it actually gets annotated on their website...i've seen weeks of lag time before the bios is posted on a website.
08-04-2007, 08:45 AM
Ace-a-Rue

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Originally Posted by GAR

Do we need the power connection next to the PCI-E 16x?????

a more accurate answer in your own thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=153922
08-04-2007, 10:26 AM
Dredd

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Originally Posted by NLight95

Actually I have a similar problem that GAR's experiencing, albeit with my Commando.

My Logitech Media keyboard locks periodically in DOS (Ghost 2003) and the BIOS. I also tried a Logitech Internet kb as well as MS Media Keyboard all with the same results, not to mention flashing back to various BIOS revisions (clearing CMOS, no oc), etc, etc. I'm still researching the issue but in the meantime I'm looking to upgrade to a P35 board.

I posted five questions in this thread (see post #969) but the last two remain unanswered. So I repeat them and add some more.

1. To date, how many official BIOS updates have there been for the IP35 Pro?

2. Are there any SATA/AHCI issues? I have four SATA drives and would like to run at least two of them in AHCI (or perhaps RAID 0). I don't want to re-install XP only to find out there's a problem with AHCI support.

3. Are there any USB problems at all? (strange lockups, resource conflicts with X-FI or with on-board PCI LAN controllers)

4. I have two PATA DVD burners, Pioneer & BenQ. My Commando has no prob with these two in cable select mode. Does the IP35 Pro have any issues with PATA optical drives in such a configuration?

I'm very seriously interested in the IP35 but MUST know of conflicts beforehand. I can't afford the down time. I've owned several Abit boards in the past but since that time I've avoided them because I saw QC take a nosedive and read reports of Abit mgmt embezzling money. Hopefully all that's now permanently in the past.

3) there is no issues that I have seen with my XFI or USB. It works in any PCI slot. I've tried them all.

4) The IDE controller is the same as what was on the Asus P5B and Commando boards. It's J.micron which is not the best one, but it will work fine, no worries there.
08-04-2007, 02:07 PM
GAR

OK, one thing i noticed, i had 3.25gb's in windows before i flashed, now with the new flash i have 3, so i went inside the bios to see if memory remap was enabled.......but its no where in the bios to be found, anyone???? :confused: :confused: :confused:
08-04-2007, 02:15 PM
Ace-a-Rue

the pro board does not have that setting in the bios.

i think there is a way to mod the boot.ini to get more memory recognized...why don't you flash back to see if you get back the additional memory...supposedly windows 32 bit is limited to 3gb's of memory or there abouts.
08-04-2007, 03:10 PM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

the pro board does not have that setting in the bios.

i think there is a way to mod the boot.ini to get more memory recognized...why don't you flash back to see if you get back the additional memory...supposedly windows 32 bit is limited to 3gb's of memory or there abouts.

You mean the /PAE (Physical Address Extension)............tried it, it doesnt work for P35 chipsets.
08-04-2007, 03:32 PM
Ace-a-Rue

sounds familiar...i do not use 4 Gb's, just 2 Gb's.

you need to go to a 64 bit OS.
08-04-2007, 03:44 PM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

sounds familiar...i do not use 4 Gb's, just 2 Gb's.

you need to go to a 64 bit OS.

Easier said than done, 64bit OS compatibility isnt up to par with 32bit, but eventually i will go onto 64bit.....but for now 32bit is working flawlessly.
08-04-2007, 04:47 PM
Dredd

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

OK, one thing i noticed, i had 3.25gb's in windows before i flashed, now with the new flash i have 3, so i went inside the bios to see if memory remap was enabled.......but its no where in the bios to be found, anyone???? :confused: :confused: :confused:

it's not there, but with more than 2GB installed it enables what it needs to recognise it. Then it's up to the OS.
08-04-2007, 04:50 PM
Lestat

you cant use 4gb in XP end of story, all the physical address extensions in the world arent going to make it work.

its nice to have that extra 1+ gb available since windows only see's 3 - 3.2gb.
but then again is the stress on the board needed?
and unless your doing massive video or photo editing ther eisnt a need for more than 2gb.
08-04-2007, 04:52 PM
Ace-a-Rue

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Originally Posted by GAR

Easier said than done, 64bit OS compatibility isnt up to par with 32bit, but eventually i will go onto 64bit.....but for now 32bit is working flawlessly.

i tried 64 bit vista and it is not that bad...
08-04-2007, 04:58 PM
AstroCreep

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

i tried 64 bit vista and it is not that bad...

Yeah. the only problems I've seen with Vista x64 are ones that are tied to Vista universally, not just because it's x64.
Windows XP 64 isn't bad either. To my knowledge most companies have taken care of the driver-related issues. Only problems are with the 16-bit apps or apps that aren't written to work with x64.
08-04-2007, 05:00 PM
cLOUDFAn

just put together my new rig today
Q6600+IP35 Pro
the "installing windows XP in a SATA drive" problem bothered me for the whole day
finally had it taken care of
my Q6600 is G0 but not very good at OC
at last fixed at 370x9 w/ vcore 1.4525v (Prime95 stable)
DDR2 vol is 2.1v w/ ratio 1:1.5 so they are running at 1100MHz (4x1G Ballistix DDR800, 5-5-5-15)
had to raise MCH vol to 1.41v tho
overall IP35 Pro is a solid board and this thread is the reason i went for it (i basically read all the posts)
so thx :D
08-04-2007, 05:06 PM
Ace-a-Rue

Quote:

Originally Posted by AstroCreep

Yeah. the only problems I've seen with Vista x64 are ones that are tied to Vista universally, not just because it's x64.
Windows XP 64 isn't bad either. To my knowledge most companies have taken care of the driver-related issues. Only problems are with the 16-bit apps or apps that aren't written to work with x64.

that's been the difference as i see it...hardware makers are getting with the program and issuing 64 bit software updates for their hardware....my HP printer is one device that now has install software designed to handle vista 32 and 64 bit OS's.
08-04-2007, 09:09 PM
Hey_Its_Cole

OK...So I am a little confused, just got the system up and running, X3220. When not under load my multiplier is dropping from x9 to x6. While running Orthos, it is hitting 3015 but the multi drops to 6 when not loaded???
08-04-2007, 10:23 PM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lestat

you cant use 4gb in XP end of story, all the physical address extensions in the world arent going to make it work.

its nice to have that extra 1+ gb available since windows only see's 3 - 3.2gb.
but then again is the stress on the board needed?
and unless your doing massive video or photo editing ther eisnt a need for more than 2gb.

i know that, my question was, before the flash i had 3.25, and after i have 3. thats all.
08-04-2007, 11:09 PM
GAR

a question for you guys, what pci-e frequency are you using with this board, and 8800gtx..........in my 680 i was using 125, but i know intel chipsets dont really like the pci-e frequency too high, the sata drives dissapear when you set it to high, and you get corrupt OS as well.........so what settings are you guys using???
08-05-2007, 02:17 AM
RLM

Quote:

OK...So I am a little confused, just got the system up and running, X3220. When not under load my multiplier is dropping from x9 to x6. While running Orthos, it is hitting 3015 but the multi drops to 6 when not loaded???

Just tested this. I reckon it's happening due to C1E being set to 'auto'.

In bios go to Advanced Bios Features > Cpu Feature

Set C1E to 'disabled'.

Seems the recommended setup for these features is to disable all, but Execute Disable Bit and possibly Thermal Control.

This should help in theory with Overclocking.

RLM
08-05-2007, 06:16 AM
Ace-a-Rue

as far as i understand...thermal control is the cpu throttling mechanism...the cpu will automatically shut down when it hit its magical overheating temperature to save itself from melt-down
08-05-2007, 06:17 AM
Ace-a-Rue

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

a question for you guys, what pci-e frequency are you using with this board, and 8800gtx..........in my 680 i was using 125, but i know intel chipsets dont really like the pci-e frequency too high, the sata drives dissapear when you set it to high, and you get corrupt OS as well.........so what settings are you guys using???

as long as you do not go over 120 mhz, the intel chipset should function...now...can your sata hard drives handle the extra frequency is another aspect to consider.
08-05-2007, 07:04 AM
MADMAX22

Hey what are other people getting for fsb on quads. Heres my x3220 B3 at 470, highest ive gotten so far.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5096/q4470fsbvd2.jpg
08-05-2007, 07:36 AM
krille

I'm highly considering the Abit IP35 Pro for my new build this coming week, I first have some questions:

1) Is this board solid and stable as rock for 24/7 usage even while OC'ing? Just as stable as say Gigabyte's top P35 offering? Or is the board a nightmare (I've had those :eek: )?

2) Are there any bug, flaws, drawbacks or otherwise potentially negative aspects about this board?

3a) How bad is the vdroop in conjunction with a quad-core (OC'ed Q6600)? What about relatively in comparison to the Gigabyte? (I know the ASUS P5K is much better, but it's not an option.)
3b) If it's bad, how much will this limit what? I understand it limits OC'ing potential a bit, but how much in reality? (20 Mhz, 100 Mhz, 500 Mhz?)

4) Is the stock cooling adequate? Even without an extra fan for it and a side-blowing style cooler such as the Ninja or Ultra 120?
I noticed it can't be replace with TR mosfet and chipset aftermarket coolers, will this be an issue at all? (I'm going for a quiet setup.)

Thanks! :)

~ Kris
08-05-2007, 08:01 AM
Ace-a-Rue

Quote:

Originally Posted by krille

I'm highly considering the Abit IP35 Pro for my new build this coming week, I first have some questions:

1) Is this board solid and stable as rock for 24/7 usage even while OC'ing? Just as stable as say Gigabyte's top P35 offering? Or is the board a nightmare (I've had those :eek: )?

yes, it is stable with high overclocks.

Quote:

2) Are there any bug, flaws, drawbacks or otherwise potentially negative aspects about this board?

no.

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3a) How bad is the vdroop in conjunction with a quad-core (OC'ed Q6600)? What about relatively in comparison to the Gigabyte? (I know the ASUS P5K is much better, but it's not an option.)
3b) If it's bad, how much will this limit what? I understand it limits OC'ing potential a bit, but how much in reality? (20 Mhz, 100 Mhz, 500 Mhz?)

droop is bad but does not affect the overclock...power regulation is very stable.

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4) Is the stock cooling adequate? Even without an extra fan for it and a side-blowing style cooler such as the Ninja or Ultra 120?
I noticed it can't be replace with TR mosfet and chipset aftermarket coolers, will this be an issue at all? (I'm going for a quiet setup.)

Thanks! :)

~ Kris

cooling is adequate with the current heatpipe...i showed a mod that you can do by removing the heatpipe and then remove current TIM...from there, you can add AS Ceramique...then re-attach it with insulated washer, common nuts and bolts purchased at home depot.

EDIT:...i see you live in sweden:)...i guess home depot won't work for you.:D
08-05-2007, 08:03 AM
shimmishim

Quote:

Originally Posted by krille

I'm highly considering the Abit IP35 Pro for my new build this coming week, I first have some questions:

1) Is this board solid and stable as rock for 24/7 usage even while OC'ing? Just as stable as say Gigabyte's top P35 offering? Or is the board a nightmare (I've had those :eek: )?

2) Are there any bug, flaws, drawbacks or otherwise potentially negative aspects about this board?

3a) How bad is the vdroop in conjunction with a quad-core (OC'ed Q6600)? What about relatively in comparison to the Gigabyte? (I know the ASUS P5K is much better, but it's not an option.)
3b) If it's bad, how much will this limit what? I understand it limits OC'ing potential a bit, but how much in reality? (20 Mhz, 100 Mhz, 500 Mhz?)

4) Is the stock cooling adequate? Even without an extra fan for it and a side-blowing style cooler such as the Ninja or Ultra 120?
I noticed it can't be replace with TR mosfet and chipset aftermarket coolers, will this be an issue at all? (I'm going for a quiet setup.)

Thanks! :)

~ Kris

1. This board has been very stable for me. No problems to report. I've chips overclocked at 3.2, 3.7, and almost 3.8 w/o having any stability issues (after stability testing of course).

2. The LAN runs off of pci rather than pci-e... but i can't find where it states that. Board shuts off then boots up after making any changes in the bios (I MEAN ANY).

3. Vdroop appears to be dependent on the board you receive. Some report practically none, others around 0.03 to 0.04... me, 0.08-0.09! but i did the vdroop mod and it no longer droops at all.

4. Can't help you hear as i do not run this board inside a case but out of the case with my waterblock (no fans) it runs fine.

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