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03-25-2007, 02:28 PM
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Here`s my current 24/7(totally stable)....just working on memory clocks and timings now.
Also managed to get myself a world record in 3DMARK03:D
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=5276214
03-25-2007, 09:32 PM
PRJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedg.raven

so many you can keep under control the temps, before are dangerous the temps goes 80º :D

i cant put it 600 4-3-3-10
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2900/jajajati9.jpg

(Sorry for the english)

What are you cooling your cpu with? I am licquidcooling and @ 1.42 i hit just arround 60 degrees.

Since mine is a quad temps will be higher, but I don't dare much higher for a 24/7 setup

Is ekstream high vcore the only way to get memory up to stock speed or will a bios update help?

PRJ
03-26-2007, 12:12 AM
OKsoVRomoSkylo

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRJ

#1023

Thanks, thats interesting :)

How high CPU Vcore do i dare on a QX6700 ?

I am still on stock vcore @ 3300 ( 1.35 bios / cpu-z 1.238 )

By the way, some nice memory you got there.

PRJ

I would suggest using coretemp or lavalys's everest to monitor your qx core temps. anything under 85 c under full load is fairly ok.
this will actually determine the voltage your qx can handle safely with your water rig.
probably around 1.5v real at idle at your case, or maybe less, as you've got everything on a single loop.
the pity is that you wont be needing any of this voltage increase if you cant properly multi all four cores.
the qx can easily do 3.3g with a 10x multi at stock-or close to stock volts,and will hit a wall there.
over 333 fsb is something the qx really doesn't like (although 360+fsb's have been achieved with volt modded boards), so thats when you need the upwards multis, and that's when you will need the extra core voltage.
03-26-2007, 06:51 AM
sedg.raven

in the screen is under air cooled by a styche infinity, now is water cooled by danger den tdx, d5 & Black Ice GTS Stealth 360 is at 3,5ghz 1,45 vcore(maybe 1,4 perfectly) at 40º Celsius at 23º room

bye
03-26-2007, 12:36 PM
PRJ

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#1028

Thanks for the tips, I tryed everest and its easy to see which of the two cores that are'nt clocked, 15-18 degrees lower on core 3/4.

I think my max vcore can be 1.43 ( in bios setting ), after that it gets to scary and to close to 85 degrees.

This is also the highest DDR FSB i can get at this vcore, even though its DDR1150 modules.

All sugestions to optimizing the memory or other parts, are very welkome.

Thanks

PRJ
03-28-2007, 12:02 PM
OKsoVRomoSkylo

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRJ

#1028

Thanks for the tips, I tryed everest and its easy to see which of the two cores that are'nt clocked, 15-18 degrees lower on core 3/4.

I think my max vcore can be 1.43 ( in bios setting ), after that it gets to scary and to close to 85 degrees.

This is also the highest DDR FSB i can get at this vcore, even though its DDR1150 modules.

All sugestions to optimizing the memory or other parts, are very welkome.

Thanks

PRJ

there is also an everest patch specifically made for the in932xmax. it will show you almost everything, including pwm temps and so on.

i would start by runing default 266 fsb = 1066 qdr on the cpu, run the memory unlinked, volt it up at around 2.2v and gradually bring the ddr frequency up to find where it maxes out (will need some voltage adjustments).
with memory timings left on auto.

this will give a rough estimate of your memory max ddr freq. lets say yours is 1200 .
then i would run the memory linked 1:1 putting 1200 as cpu qdr, which is 1200/4= 300fsb. then i would play with the multi to bring up the cpu frequency. 12x300 would give u a healthy 3.6ghz, on a 1:1 linked memory.
your cpu vcore as is would probably handle all this.

at that point check your pi times and 3d benches, check system stability and start from there as a reference.

then i would try to fine tweek cpu fsb and memory timings without loosing stability.

the point is to get better benches=faster system and not necessarily higher fsb's , higher voltages, higher temps.

hope this helps.
03-28-2007, 01:50 PM
day187

USB 2.0 Driver please

Hi sorry to go off topic

Please could someone send me the USB 2.0 driver from the Abit Motherboard CD thanks i cant find my cd and i'm having problems with the one from windows up date thanks

Day

day187@gmail.com
03-28-2007, 02:25 PM
PRJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKsoVRomoSkylo

there is also an everest patch specifically made for the in932xmax. it will show you almost everything, including pwm temps and so on.

i would start by runing default 266 fsb = 1066 qdr on the cpu, run the memory unlinked, volt it up at around 2.2v and gradually bring the ddr frequency up to find where it maxes out (will need some voltage adjustments).
with memory timings left on auto.

this will give a rough estimate of your memory max ddr freq. lets say yours is 1200 .
then i would run the memory linked 1:1 putting 1200 as cpu qdr, which is 1200/4= 300fsb. then i would play with the multi to bring up the cpu frequency. 12x300 would give u a healthy 3.6ghz, on a 1:1 linked memory.
your cpu vcore as is would probably handle all this.

at that point check your pi times and 3d benches, check system stability and start from there as a reference.

then i would try to fine tweek cpu fsb and memory timings without loosing stability.

the point is to get better benches=faster system and not necessarily higher fsb's , higher voltages, higher temps.

hope this helps.

Hi OKsoVRomoSkylo :)

Thanks for the detailed instruktions, I would like to have overcome the problem with your instruktions, but already at...

930 unlinked 1066 x 10 vdimm ( 2,2 -2,45 ) Auto-Auto-Auto-Auto 2T

The memory will fail in super pi :mad:

I read about a new beta bios that might solve the problem, take a look in #3

http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=103344

looks like there may be a new beta BIOS that could be better for memory
speeds.... Ask Sean nicely

I don't have a profile, so I haven't yet asked Abit Sean to send it.

PRJ
03-29-2007, 09:44 AM
sedg.raven

anybody can stabilize in orthos the mems over 1050 mhz :nono: , i prove all voltages and posible configs without succes

bye
03-29-2007, 10:19 AM
SmokeyTheBandit

Here's the new BETA Bios guys :)

Received it from Abit Universal Benelux .... Thanks guys

M622A_12.B01 dated 13/3/2007

Release notes:
1.Fixing the game lag with PXE CPU.
2.Fixing the USB mouse via BIOS can't get into OS.
3.Fixed the LED Mode 7 function failed.
4.Support IN9-32X ( :stick: ... duhh :confused:

You can download it here :

http://rapidshare.com/files/23380483/M622A_12.B01.html
03-29-2007, 11:04 AM
day187

Thanks Smokey
I've also uploaded the M622A_12.B01 here :)

I've also got the usb drivers thanks
03-29-2007, 12:40 PM
SmokeyTheBandit

Quote:

Originally Posted by day187

Thanks Smokey
I've also uploaded the M622A_12.B01 here :)

I've also got the usb drivers thanks

Your Welcome m8

Now lets get some comments from you guys regarding this bios !

My first thoughts are the better booting of the board i almost always get A0 when i reboot with same settings .....
But with this new beta i haven't seen this while i rebooted severall times already so thats good !
03-29-2007, 11:16 PM
CornerJack

Please, give me your impressions on this new bios...
I have tested and the max FSB is 475MHz, 482MHz with the old.
The vcore is 1.5v, not other modifications of the tensions.
03-30-2007, 12:40 AM
PRJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by day187

Thanks Smokey
I've also uploaded the M622A_12.B01 here :)

I've also got the usb drivers thanks

Hi Day 187

Thanks for sharring :)

I have one quistion though, this is a .B01 file

How does this work, do I have to copy/paste together with the original bios or so? If so, should it not be a .bin file then?

Thanks

PRJ
03-30-2007, 12:59 AM
mark0326

Rename it .BIN, should work.
03-30-2007, 01:22 AM
PRJ

Think so... I'll try hope it works.

PRJ
03-30-2007, 01:44 AM
day187

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRJ

Hi Day 187

Thanks for sharring :)

I have one quistion though, this is a .B01 file

How does this work, do I have to copy/paste together with the original bios or so? If so, should it not be a .bin file then?

Thanks

PRJ

Hi
If you still having problems use winflash.
03-30-2007, 01:57 AM
PRJ

Hi

Just to be sure, don't wanna make a mistake when flashing...

Could someone confirm this method...

1. Rename M622A_12.B01 to M622A_12.BIN
2. Copy/Paste into unzipped folder M622A_11 ( old bios ) and replacing M622A_11.BIN with new M622A_12.BIN
3. Dr dos A Floppy, Runme @ A-Promt

Correct?

*****UDATE****** Did'nt work :o( ******UPDATE*******

Thanks

PRJ
03-30-2007, 06:09 AM
PRJ

Ok, flashed succesfully to M622A_12.B01

How to...

Download, change to .BIN, use FlashMenu in Abit uguru

Now ready to OC...

PRJ
03-30-2007, 06:35 AM
sedg.raven

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBandit

My first thoughts are the better booting of the board i almost always get A0 when i reboot with same settings .....
But with this new beta i haven't seen this while i rebooted severall times already so thats good !

i have the same problem but, still the problem, then when i clear cmos, the first changes i do, when pres F10 to save when i prees enter the sistem go off imediatly and boot but isn't normal

bye
03-31-2007, 12:56 AM
PRJ

Hi

I have a problem reaching the rated speeds of my memory, I have tryed a lot of different settings and nothing comes close to rated speeds of DDR1150 or PC9200

The cpu is stable @ ( 1170/4x12= 3510 ) vcore 1.44, vdimm 2.425, SLi disabled, unlinked DDR910

I am using the blue slots #1 & #2

Have been testing with these timings in this order:

CAS-TRCD-TRP-TRAS-CMD TRRD-TRC-TWR-TWTR-TREF-TRFC

Auto timings: 5-8-8-26-2T 5-32-6-11-7.8us-61

OCZ default: 5-5-5-18-2T 6-31*-6-11-3,9-Auto

EVA2000: 5-5-5-18-2T 5-22-6-8-Auto-42

No matter what timings/vdimm I use the system crashes if it's pushed any higher in FSB, I have tryed unlinked and linked and even SLi but nothing gets them upthere.

There still seems to be headroom since I mamaged to lower the timings to 4-4-4-12-2T 6-30-6-11-Auto-Auto @ DDR910, but can't push FSB higher.

All Tips & Tricks are very welkome
03-31-2007, 04:36 AM
OKsoVRomoSkylo

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRJ

Hi

I have a problem reaching the rated speeds of my memory, I have tryed a lot of different settings and nothing comes close to rated speeds of DDR1150 or PC9200

The cpu is stable @ ( 1170/4x12= 3510 ) vcore 1.44, vdimm 2.425, SLi disabled, unlinked DDR910

I am using the blue slots #1 & #2

Have been testing with these timings in this order:

CAS-TRCD-TRP-TRAS-CMD TRRD-TRC-TWR-TWTR-TREF-TRFC

Auto timings: 5-8-8-26-2T 5-32-6-11-7.8us-61

OCZ default: 5-5-5-18-2T 6-31*-6-11-3,9-Auto

EVA2000: 5-5-5-18-2T 5-22-6-8-Auto-42

No matter what timings/vdimm I use the system crashes if it's pushed any higher in FSB, I have tryed unlinked and linked and even SLi but nothing gets them upthere.

There still seems to be headroom since I mamaged to lower the timings to 4-4-4-12-2T 6-30-6-11-Auto-Auto @ DDR910, but can't push FSB higher.

All Tips & Tricks are very welkome

try slackening everything lets say,

6-8-8-30-2T 6-36-6-12-7.8us-72 @ 2.25v
and try raising nb core at~1.65v, play also with ht and mhc
also fidle with ddr ref.(should be near half your ddr voltage)
then try raising the (ddr)freq in 15mhz increments not stopping at the first no boot. go on, since there are huge holes in memory maps. maybe this way you get lucky!

btw, what figures do you get in the memory benchmarks of everest @ 910 cas4 ?
03-31-2007, 04:55 AM
Razzz

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRJ

Hi

I have a problem reaching the rated speeds of my memory, I have tryed a lot of different settings and nothing comes close to rated speeds of DDR1150 or PC9200

The cpu is stable @ ( 1170/4x12= 3510 ) vcore 1.44, vdimm 2.425, SLi disabled, unlinked DDR910

I am using the blue slots #1 & #2

Have been testing with these timings in this order:

CAS-TRCD-TRP-TRAS-CMD TRRD-TRC-TWR-TWTR-TREF-TRFC

Auto timings: 5-8-8-26-2T 5-32-6-11-7.8us-61

OCZ default: 5-5-5-18-2T 6-31*-6-11-3,9-Auto

EVA2000: 5-5-5-18-2T 5-22-6-8-Auto-42

No matter what timings/vdimm I use the system crashes if it's pushed any higher in FSB, I have tryed unlinked and linked and even SLi but nothing gets them upthere.

There still seems to be headroom since I mamaged to lower the timings to 4-4-4-12-2T 6-30-6-11-Auto-Auto @ DDR910, but can't push FSB higher.

All Tips & Tricks are very welkome

I have almost the same problem. My memory are memtest stable both in Win and DOS at 3-3-3-3 1T 840mhz 2,3V ( haven´t tried lower volt) but I can´t get past 835mhz. I have tried 4-4-4-12 / 5-5-5-12 at 2,4V to, but it won´t boot at 1T. I have raised the voltage for NB/HTT and so on, and I have tried to boot with a lower FSB without any help.

Any suggestions?
03-31-2007, 05:56 AM
shawn1998

Setting a usb keyboard/mouse to "bios" now allows you to boot into Windows with this new beta. I can confirm that this is, in fact, true.

About time!

Shawn
03-31-2007, 07:17 AM
Razzz

I did som test now. Memory at 854 is absolutly the max. Doesn´t matter if i use 2,3-2,4-2,5v, it will not boot, or it will reboot. The strange thing is that they are memtest stable at 840 so it can´t be the memory. I´m thinking its the NB who wants more power than 1,6v?

http://www.bandwidth.se/images/759

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