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the RAM undervolts so that might explain a bit why more voltage needed but then again every board works differently so you cannot really expect to have exactly the same results....who runs TCCD at stock dude....common crank it up
temps are incorrect....try beta17 it fixed something with temps so should be more accurate
Just flashed with the beta 17 bios, so far all looks good. The temp readings have really been sorted out. On all previos bios have tried it was reading 33C idle and up to 59C load with a dangerden h20 setup. Now reading 28C idle 41C load (3200 venice 1.65vcore)
you guys are so wrapped up in the temps issue. What's more important is the more annoying overclocking bugs this board has.
yeah....OCing ability is very important
good to see they solved the temp reporting
41C at 1.65V looks a bit low to me :p:
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Originally Posted by situman
Just picked up 4 sticks of this stuff.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146548
I think thats about the cheapest gig of memory you can buy rated for ddr 500. Will be testing it in the AN8 as soon as it comes. For $108 total for all 4 it sure beats 2x512mb sticks at a whopping $172 and may not have 2T issues.
Bios 17 is a waste of time. How come the room temperature is the same or higher than the CPU Temp. 1T problem is still a problem, it doesn’t OC has bios 16. What the hell are those engineers doing.
Seriously, Bios 17 OC way better (FSB wise) for me. Temp is lower (to much thou). That's what i've found new with the 17 beta. So it's a keeper for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by pfgp
Also no 1T problems either. This is 1T prime stable - http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=33676
will try higher later, but the bad thing is that i'll probably need more vdimm to go much higher than this. Anyway will test more when i have time.
but you never experienced 1T problems anyways....soooo this bios doesn't fix nothing than except gives unaccurate temp reading again it seems and no 1T fix...........
I tested brand new pair of OCZ 4000VX on my mobo and could not for the life of me get errors out of memtest at 250MHz regardless of timings and voltage used....this is not the second set of these nice sticks that I cannot get to work.....WTF is that all about.....I would understand if I was trying :banana::banana::banana::banana:house value RAM but fark....we are talking top of the range stuff rated at 250MHz....My Corsairs have no problems just getting these to work is frustrating
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Originally Posted by Rolle2k
1T problem is still not fix. But temps are reading about 10 degrees lower
eh i give up on this board. Sapphire coming out with the gruper soon so not gonna waste any more money on this crap.
But it's still strange that not all boards are having 1T issues.. could it be related to other hardware? also as i said bios 17b was better for me than 16 clockwise, so its a keeper for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Still no dice then with the new bios ??
Abit need to do something about or they will loose there reputability if they havent already
I think it might have to do with a little resistor that i found different on one of my 3 boards........... What resistor is that you say. Well i can give you a location. Its just left of the usb 1 header and its attached to a green chip with the identification mark x16. It is totally different than the one on my fatality then on my ultra.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenetixx
some boards of the same model will have the 1T issue and some dont. They cant possibly use to different kinds of resistors on the same AN8 Ultra for example. Well I tried 2 an8 sli and both had the 1T issue.
My Vanilla AN8 doesnt give me any 1T problems but my AN8 SLI gives me 1T problems...
I have the Fatal1ty sli board . and it has been flawless using bios 16 ....... 1t works fine for me 1:1 up to aprox 230mhz after that i hafta set it to 2t
the only complaints i have is no OTES ramflow cooler . ( gonna order one tho ) but biggest problem is that no matter what . the 2 Maxtor SATA 200gb hd's i have w/16mb cache will not boot at all .... cant even get into BIOS with them plugged in ............ but have been looking around ASUS & DFI forums as well as Abit forums .. it seems to be a hit or miss issue with the NF4 chipset no matter who makes it ... a lot of people are having the same problem
Hey Flewpastu,
Where did you order the "OTES ramflow cooler". I have the same board little disappointed with no ramflow cooler.Thanks
I have fatal1ty sli as well, so far i still cant run OCZ4000 gold vx 250 :(
The Beta17 bios still has the problem leaving trtw at 4 even setting to other values.
The official bios 17 seems to be released now.. i haven't tried it myself yet thou.
you can find it on Abit's FTP
Edit:
Just read the releaselog:
Release information:
[ENGLISH]
1. Recalibrate CPU temperature.
2. BIOS compiled date: 07/21/2005
Omg, this seems to be the exact same bios as the Beta then, same "BIOS compiled date" on both of them. then wonder when a 18 bios will come?
The Fatal1ty is just amazing, apart from the all out guns abit have gone with its also the sexiest board out the whole bunch of nf4 offerins imo, i have a SLI-D and really want to trade up for a SLI Fatal1ty.
ed- im not liking all this board layout critisism im reading here, its BS, your beloved DFIs are not perfect either, in fact probably less so, and to end all the critisism im going to points things out. first lets look at the DFI SLI-D;
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...UTnF4SLI-D.jpg
lets start with the DIMM slots, notice the spacing between them? well the spacing isnt any better compared to the fatal1ty, the only real difference is the larger space left in the middle of them, and when considering most ppl obly run 1GB, that middle space on the DFI is useless anyway. and for thoughs with 2gb that space is also worthless as abit gives the RAM otes system on their board vs. a simple bit of a gap, and for the OCers, the active otes system is a lot more useful than a slight gap and having to ghetto your own type of ram cooling.
now lets look at the slot placements vs. the fatal1ty, DFI make the same mistake, when placing even a single graphics card in, one slot is blocked nomatter weather its in the top or bottom PCI-E slot.
next chipset placement, its unethical to to critesise abit for theit placement of the chipset when DFI have it in exactly the same place on their board.
now lets have a look at the FDD and aux power placement on both boards, i cant see complaints eitherway here, placement on both boards are well thought about, perhaps slighty better thought about in the fatal1ty as it actually allows you the chance of tucking thoughs cables underneath the board.
cmos battery placement, both places are fine, and in fact the placement on the fatal1ty i find more ideal, its easier to see and reach without having to navigate your hand under a HDD or something of that nature.
and lastly CPU socket placement, both boards essentially get it right although the fatal1ty users may have difficulty placing 120mm cpu fans in there with the otes cooling.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...t/fatal1ty.jpg
all in all i'll give the DFI a 8\10 for placement and the fatal1ty an 8.8\10 for placement. now enough of the "abit have done everything wrong" attitude, it sounds petty and childish.
I did some initial testing on my AN8 SLI (still waiting for the Video card and HD I want to use for this). Came with Bios 13 from New Egg. I tried out Bios 13, Tic Tac Bios 13, 14, 15 & 16.
Best so far was 13.
Had a few issues (two normal & one REALLY weird):
1) CPU temp still calibrated way too high with all 5 bios's. 3000+ Venice w/ SLK 948U & a 92mm Delta (80CFM -- wanted to make sure it was cool for this test .. also basement room was nice and cool) running default 1.8 Ghz @ 1.4v = 38 C and 44 full load.
2) Default RAM voltage too low: Used 2 x 512 TCCD/TCC5 RAM. System kept shutting down randomly and many times, would not start up. RAM default is 2.60v. Therefore, I'd suggest -- even when 1st firing this up -- manually set up the RAM for at least voltage. Also, I'd suggest you set the Command rate to 2T if using a Venice -- Just in case. Mine was OK with 1T @ stock settings just to test, but when I took it up to only 210 HTT, had to do 2T. Didn't have time to look into this further though.
3) Weird Problem: the one I have did NOT like PS/2 Keyboard and mouse. I kept getting the warning 'running in fail safe mode' no matter what Bios and what setting. I hit F1 to ignore and Win Xp ran fine -- even Prime and Super Pi. Hmmmm .. Got frustrating. I then started to switch components. Got fed up and decided to switch keyboard and mouse. I used USB versions of both this time. Problem when away .. :confused: Anyone else experience this with PS/2 keyboard and or mouse ???? When I connected one or the other back up, got the 'fail safe' error.
I suppose there is some Bios setting that does not like these legacy devices. As there is no parallel port (and I know Abit released that one 'Max' MB with no PS/2 & parallel support a while back).
Anyway, waiting to get the rest of my parts to see how this kitty will purr :D
I have to say, I was impressed by the speed. My 1st NF4 MB and I noticed that it felt faster than my NF3 250 GB MB - even at only 1.8 ghz on the CPU (stock speed on everything). Also, nice looking MB. Esp. the Heat pipe chipset cooler.
Although, on my MB, part of a thermal pad is hanging off on one of the mosfet HS. So, AS will be replacing those soon ;)
I'll report back when I get the rest of this rig .. Hopefully a better Bios will come out between now and then (unless Bios 17 fixes most of the issues).
:toast:
so basically bios 17 was released to stop the whining from people complaining about high temps. What about performance side of things ABIT!?!?
the fatal1ty pwns for performance, one example is comparing it to the DFI board, the fata1ty bests the DFI in ut04 by a staggering 16%
ed- bios 17? ive only seen bios 16 on the abit site.
Check my last post before this one. a little bit up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket