Water cooling the Asus Maximus SE X38

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03-02-2008, 01:39 PM
Talonman

Most of us ordered our mobo's when the SE was the only Maximus out.
03-02-2008, 01:42 PM
Talonman

Quote:

Originally Posted by C'DaleRider

While not exactly an SE, actually just the plain Jane Maximus Forumla, I got my loop, as it is, up and running last week. Course, not much different from what others have posted here.

Not much really.....Maximus Formula mb, Q6600 cpu @ 3.6GHz, 2 x 2GB Mushkin Redline DDR2-1000 RAM, Asus HD3870 video card......D-Tek FuZion cpu block, DD MPC universal chipset block on NB (essentially the same block as a Maze 4, just different pattern on block itself w/pins instead of a maze), Laing DDC2 pump w/XSPC top, Swiftech MicroRes, Thermochill 120.3 rad w/3 Zalman ZM-FC fans.....but I've found them to whine too much so they'll be replaced soon with Scythe S-Flex "F" fans.

Nice looking build..... :up:
03-03-2008, 08:09 AM
Durkadurka

Quote:

Originally Posted by neo_rtr

what was the problem with the motherboard? did you solv it? how?

I bought a new one :rolleyes:

Testing some OC'ing now, after almost 2 hours of Prime95 at 3800 MHz, here are my temps:

Ambient: 24 C
Core1: 44 C (D-Tek Fuzion w/washer no nozzle)
Core2: 39 C
Core3: 42 C
Core4: 42 C
NB: 34 C (EK S-Max Acetal)
SB: 35 C (EK NB/SB ASUS 3 Acetal)

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9679/3800ae5.jpg

I notice my 5V goes down to 4.85v. Should I be worried?
03-03-2008, 08:15 AM
Kingslayer

Hey does any of u guys know how to get the ek supreme on the asus maximus ??? what do i have to change / buy to do that
03-03-2008, 12:09 PM
neo_rtr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durkadurka

I bought a new one :rolleyes:

I like your style! (i would do the same!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durkadurka

I notice my 5V goes down to 4.85v. Should I be worried?

Mine does the same. I dont think do. I did measure it with a voltometer and on mine was 5v!
03-03-2008, 03:07 PM
Exaby1e

Hi everybody!
I'm about to remove all the heatpipes from my Maximus Formula non-SE. But I don't know whats the best way to do it. I have a hairdryer and coldspray (-55C). Which method is best, heat or cold?
03-03-2008, 03:19 PM
neo_rtr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exaby1e

Hi everybody!
I'm about to remove all the heatpipes from my Maximus Formula non-SE. But I don't know whats the best way to do it. I have a hairdryer and coldspray (-55C). Which method is best, heat or cold?

I did it with cold!!
there is a collection of ways,pics on the 2nd page if you follow my sig.

have fun! and let us know your temps as well
03-03-2008, 03:55 PM
Talonman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durkadurka

I bought a new one :rolleyes:

Testing some OC'ing now, after almost 2 hours of Prime95 at 3800 MHz, here are my temps:

Ambient: 24 C
Core1: 44 C (D-Tek Fuzion w/washer no nozzle)
Core2: 39 C
Core3: 42 C
Core4: 42 C
NB: 34 C (EK S-Max Acetal)
SB: 35 C (EK NB/SB ASUS 3 Acetal)

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9679/3800ae5.jpg

I notice my 5V goes down to 4.85v. Should I be worried?

Thanks for the post buddy! ...

Does this look correct to you? :)
Members reported loaded NB temp's in the 'Aftermarket Block Club':
ABC Member ---- NB volts -- NB Loaded ------------------- CPU ------------- Ambient --- NB Block
Durkadurka -------- 1.52v ------ 34°C -- 2HR Prime95 --- QX9650 @ 3.8GHz ------ 24.0°C --- EK S-MAX Acetal

I think I got er right... OP Updated with fresh data... :up:
03-03-2008, 04:01 PM
Exaby1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by neo_rtr

I did it with cold!!
there is a collection of ways,pics on the 2nd page if you follow my sig.

have fun! and let us know your temps as well

Thanks! :) I going to try it tomorrow with cold. The MB is all new, so I hope the heatpipe will pop off easy.
03-03-2008, 04:07 PM
Talonman

We wish you well brother... :)

And do report back!
03-03-2008, 07:32 PM
Kingslayer

Hey how did u guys get the ek supreme on this board what do you have to change??
03-04-2008, 10:29 AM
Durkadurka

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talonman

Thanks for the post buddy! ...

Does this look correct to you? :)
Members reported loaded NB temp's in the 'Aftermarket Block Club':
ABC Member ---- NB volts -- NB Loaded ------------------- CPU ------------- Ambient --- NB Block
Durkadurka -------- 1.52v ------ 34°C -- 2HR Prime95 --- QX9650 @ 3.8GHz ------ 24.0°C --- EK S-MAX Acetal

I think I got er right... OP Updated with fresh data... :up:

Yup, looks right :)
Running Prime95 right now at 9.5 x 425. NB temp is stilll 34C at 1.58 vNB, with ambient at 23C.
03-04-2008, 10:39 AM
Talonman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingslayer

Hey how did u guys get the ek supreme on this board what do you have to change??

I think it just fits on as is...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durkadurka

Yup, looks right :)
Running Prime95 right now at 9.5 x 425. NB temp is stilll 34C at 1.58 vNB, with ambient at 23C.

Thanks for the confromation... Nice temps too, considering your ambient... :up:

Welcome into the ABC...
03-04-2008, 01:15 PM
Exaby1e

I need som help here ;)
I've been trying to remove the heatsink from my Maximum Formula non-SE now with coldspray, but it doesn't come off? I did spray it about 10 seconds and then wiggled it, but nothing happens?
03-04-2008, 01:22 PM
Durkadurka

On my first board (SE), I put it outside (-10C) for about 30 min, and it came straight off (board not used before removal).
On my second board (non-SE), I put it in the freezer for 15 min, and it came straigt off (board run on air cooling to flash to latest bios with e6600 cpu).

Try the last method, no hazzle at all.
03-04-2008, 01:24 PM
Exaby1e

But isn't coldspray like the same method?
How did you do after freezing?
03-04-2008, 01:33 PM
Durkadurka

Detach the NB/SB cooling heatpipe from the MoSFET cooler, and then you should be able to just lift it off.
If it doesnt come off easy, put a plastic card next to the NB chip, and then use a screwdriver to gently wiggle it off. Just dont use any force :)
03-04-2008, 01:53 PM
Exaby1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durkadurka

Detach the NB/SB cooling heatpipe from the MoSFET cooler, and then you should be able to just lift it off.
If it doesnt come off easy, put a plastic card next to the NB chip, and then use a screwdriver to gently wiggle it off. Just dont use any force :)

Thanks, I'll try that tomorrow.
I managed to get the SB heatsink of now, but the rest is still stuck :(
03-05-2008, 12:39 AM
neo_rtr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exaby1e

Thanks, I'll try that tomorrow.
I managed to get the SB heatsink of now, but the rest is still stuck :(

for example
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2907/pict0139dg0.jpg
By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2008-02-20

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1959/pict0142vq4.jpg
By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2008-02-20
03-05-2008, 02:40 AM
perfection

neo_rtr did you have to heat up the cooler or chill it?? or did it just lever off?
03-05-2008, 02:58 AM
neo_rtr

Just an observation

NB volts............ NB Loaded............Ambient...............Difference
1.60v.................. 22......................12,7....................9, 3........... EK S-MAX Acetal (2 bloocks on loop)
1.55v.................. 26......................16,6....................9, 4.......... EK S-MAX Acetal (2 bloocks on loop)
1.70v.................. 28......................19.......................9 ............ Sixdesign sold by MIPS (5 blocks on loop)
1.46v.................. 30......................21,1.................... 8,9......... EK S-MAX Acetal
1.70v...................33.....................24. ......................9........... Sixdesign sold by MIPS (5 blocks on loop)
1.52v...................34.....................24. .....................10............EK S-MAX Acetal

So we have here about 9c warmer blocks than the ambient temperature.
What do you think of this table?
03-05-2008, 03:00 AM
neo_rtr

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfection

neo_rtr did you have to heat up the cooler or chill it?? or did it just lever off?

I tried to heat it up first but it dint move. Then with comressed air i chill it and it come off with some leverage as on the previous picture
03-05-2008, 05:10 AM
Talonman

Quote:

Originally Posted by neo_rtr

Just an observation

NB volts............ NB Loaded............Ambient...............Difference
1.60v.................. 22......................12,7....................9, 3........... EK S-MAX Acetal (2 bloocks on loop)
1.55v.................. 26......................16,6....................9, 4.......... EK S-MAX Acetal (2 bloocks on loop)
1.70v.................. 28......................19.......................9 ............ Sixdesign sold by MIPS (5 blocks on loop)
1.46v.................. 30......................21,1.................... 8,9......... EK S-MAX Acetal
1.70v...................33.....................24. ......................9........... Sixdesign sold by MIPS (5 blocks on loop)
1.52v...................34.....................24. .....................10............EK S-MAX Acetal

So we have here about 9c warmer blocks than the ambient temperature.
What do you think of this table?

Not bad! I think it also does show the EK ans MIPS blocks are neck-and-neck performance wise...
03-05-2008, 10:47 AM
neo_rtr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talonman

Not bad! I think it also does show the EK ans MIPS blocks are neck-and-neck performance wise...

How about to come up with a "standar" test for the freezers and SW (Everest, Orthos,Prime) that we choose to use in order to measure the test and report the temps.
Something like.
tested with everest, 30mins / 1hours,
WC: 2 blocks (CPU , NB) / 5 blocks (CPU, NB,SB, Mosfet 1, 2)
Ambient 1 C/F: Test 1
Ambient 2 C/F :Test 2
Ambient 3 C/F :Test 3
CPU: ??
Vcore: ??
NBvolt: ??

In a way it will look something like this
Tested SW: Everest (if we say that we test with everest)
Duration: 30mins / 1Hour (might better to choose 1 hour)
WC: 2 blocks (CPU , NB)
Ambient 1 24C: Test 1 NB=34C
Ambient 2 23C :Test 2 NB=33C
Ambient 3 15C :Test 3 NB=25C
CPU: Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz
Vcore: 1.35V
NBvolt: 1.40V
03-05-2008, 12:43 PM
Talonman

A standard might be nice, but I have growen attached to my current listing... :)

I think if we did that, we would have to start from scratch again.

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