Do any of the current A8V bioses allow 5X HT in ddr400 sync mode according to sabdra? Sandra reports 800x2=1600 when set to 1000 in bios.
Do any of the current A8V bioses allow 5X HT in ddr400 sync mode according to sabdra? Sandra reports 800x2=1600 when set to 1000 in bios.
perfect since the "auto" thing except for 5X reported as 4x in sandra. Is yours that way?Quote:
Originally posted by sierra_bound
xgman, is everything running smoothly? No new problems to report?
Yes, mine's the same way. I think that was done in the beta BIOS to improve system stability. But right now, I'm running at 3x. I can bench better at that speed.Quote:
Originally posted by xgman
perfect since the "auto" thing except for 5X reported as 4x in sandra. Is yours that way?
until mdzcpa can match his score, stormPC prevails in my bookQuote:
Originally posted by StormPC
Ever heard the phrase "put up or shut up"?
So beat my non-vmodded 100% aircooled non-OS tweaked S754 score in 2k1 (see sig) with a non-modded 100% aircooled non-OS tweaked S939 2k1 score. Anybody?
Bones:
You are an ignorance expert of some kind I take it?:bs:
bmg:
But so what? You are saying the leakage and heat are the same on water cooling as on air? You are the one who should be embarrassed.:slap:
Doesn't really matter. I for one am not going to re-configure my rig just to prove a point. As I said before, tweaking is part of the overclocking experience. Most of us here do it. As long as it's legitimate tweaking and not cheating, who cares?Quote:
Originally posted by Iridium192_217
until mdzcpa can match his score, stormPC prevails in my book
This has absolutely nothing to do with score. It was about storm's claim that computers magically run faster at lower temperature, when holding the clock frequencies constant. No one's arguing with the fact that cooler temps generally let you increase clock frequencies, and thus performance.Quote:
Originally posted by Iridium192_217
until mdzcpa can match his score, stormPC prevails in my book
Man, a lot of activity the past couple days. I've stopped receiving email notifications for some reason, otherwise I'd have chipped in earlier.
I was able to wrap up some preliminary results Sat morning before my folks arrived in town and I called it quits for the weekend.
I've got the board on my workbench right now, with nothing installed but WinXP, VIA drivers from the CD that came with the mobo, Cat 4.6, P95, and 3DMark01. It's all installed on a single 7200rpm IDE drive right now, not the Raptors in my sig.
Found that my memory can handle up to 247 at x-2-3-3 at 2.8v. The CPU tops out right around 2.6 GHz at 1.8v, maybe 2.61 or 2.62.
This part may interest Charlie...I was able to get P95 stable at 247x10.5, but couldn't get it to run 3DMark01. Kept freezing or crashing to desktop after a few minutes. I resolved it by bumping V-Link to 2.6v and AGP to 1.6v. I have no idea why this would help, considering I've got it locked at 33/66 and haven't overclocked the x800xt (yet).
After looping each benchmark 10 times, I got right at 30K. Overclocking the x800xt will obviously raise it, but I don't know whether switching to the Raptors will make a difference.
Right on! Talk is cheap, and all I see from S939 owners is talk!:DQuote:
Originally posted by Iridium192_217
until mdzcpa can match his score, stormPC prevails in my book
Unless you've got an invisible 3DMark2001 score I don't see, both mdzcpa and sierra_bound have 3DMark2001 scores well above your's. Also, that has nothing to do with the issue we were disagreeing with you about.Quote:
Originally posted by StormPC
Right on! Talk is cheap, and all I see from S939 owners is talk!:D
This is with some 3700EB. Nice stuff at a low voltage. I'm testing with my BH-5 right now and it seems that I'm limited to about 235HTT wich isn't bad but the EB still out performs the BH-5 even with the crap timmings. I need more voltage!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
Glad to see you got that to work, what type of memory are you using?
Also, charlie, when you were getting the problem with your HD not being recognized, were you using the on-board promise raid controller?
cowpuppy, how much VDimm are you using to get 265 with the EB?
I totally agree!!Quote:
Originally posted by StormPC
Right on! Talk is cheap
So real question is when are you going to do something extreme yourself? Or are you just gonna continue to armchair quarterback all the guys that really get it done?
When are you going to step up and run some real competitive scores? Real ones...pure default. Not the class handicapped or qualified nonsense. I don't care if you piss on it to keep it cool, the best default score takes it.
Yeah....that's what I thought.
Furthermore, because I'm much more logical than emotional (unlike some others) I'm not gonna pull my daily gaming rig apart just to prove what dozens of reputable websites have already proven....the 939 is the fastest platform....period. In fact I challenge you to find a credible review source that says the 939 is not faster.
As far as I'm concerned, the only perspective you have from your vantage point is my backend in front of you on the ORB.
LOL...considering my gaming rig is played daily, has solid but not extreme cooling (just a plain jane MachII) and a X800 Pro instead of an XT, #11 on the ORB isn't bad at all.
I have nothing to prove, and my time is worth more than meeting some qualified challenge from the lower classes. If you don't volt mod, tweak, or serious cool anything, then your success is more luck of the hardware than anything else. There are limited choices to make in the BIOS, so there's nothing else to know or do.
Boring.
I say YOU step it up instead. That's where the fun is. I haven't benched seriously in 18 months, but I'll make an exception if you can step up to the challenge.
*caveat - If someone sends me an X800 XT to use, I'll run it on air:D
Nice!!. I'll be trying some eb this week. Here's what it takes to get 28s using bh-5 and the giga boardQuote:
Originally posted by cowpuppy
This is with some 3700EB. Nice stuff at a low voltage. I'm testing with my BH-5 right now and it seems that I'm limited to about 235HTT wich isn't bad but the EB still out performs the BH-5 even with the crap timmings. I need more voltage!!!!!!!
I can oly get 2.9v and then the board locks in windows.Quote:
Originally posted by sierra_bound
cowpuppy, how much VDimm are you using to get 265 with the EB?
Quite frankly I am amazed that I can get at least 252htt sync stable at only 2.62 volts reading at oin 1 with 2x512 3700eb. I can't run 2 trcd at that voltage, but still not bad.Quote:
Originally posted by cowpuppy
This is with some 3700EB. Nice stuff at a low voltage. I'm testing with my BH-5 right now and it seems that I'm limited to about 235HTT wich isn't bad but the EB still out performs the BH-5 even with the crap timmings. I need more voltage!!!!!!!
Is Tras 10 better on the EB's than 8?
Bigtoe just looked in the bios mod program at 1006.004 and he said it shows a pci lock. Has anyone seen a lock with this bios? Maybe someone can figure out how to enable it.
I gave cowpuppy's timings a try. Was able to get 264.6X10 at 2.8v (bios setting). I'd post a Sandra screenshot, but the photo hosting site I use is down. I only had time to run 3DMark01 once. Got about 31,350 @ 260X10. Maybe more results later today.Quote:
Originally posted by xgman
Quite frankly I am amazed that I can get at least 252htt sync stable at only 2.62 volts reading at oin 1 with 2x512 3700eb. I can't run 2 trcd at that voltage, but still not bad.
Is Tras 10 better on the EB's than 8?
I am running air cooling only. Both of the people you refer to are either running water (on CPU and GPU) or Prommie on CPU and 80watt pelt AND water on the GPU.Quote:
Originally posted by bmg
Unless you've got an invisible 3DMark2001 score I don't see, both mdzcpa and sierra_bound have 3DMark2001 scores well above your's. Also, that has nothing to do with the issue we were disagreeing with you about.
Now what? You gonna give me another physics lesson and explain how 100% air runs just as cool as a Prommie plus pelted and watered GPU? What's wrong with you?
All I am saying is the truth. mdzcpa acts as if beating an air cooled computer by 1500 points with a much higher CPU and VC clock is somehow noteworthy. I believe this too, as it's noteably weak in my opinion. His (supposedly superior) hardware should easily be 3k higher than he is if the FX-53 939 was worth a $hit.
CPUs without motherboards are strikingly similar to mdzcpa's posts in terms of their usefulness.
Oh, and STEvil???
You're little physics lesson is comical. Yes it's true that if all those variables were the same the leakage would be the same. You forgot one little detail though.
THE SITUATION IN YOUR EXAMPLE IS NOT POSSIBLE IN THE REAL WORLD!!!
That's because air/water/phasechange DO NOT RUN THE SAME TEMPS where everything else is equal. Again, WTF is wrong with you guys?:confused:
mdzcpa
NO THANKS! I prefer a kicka$$ aircooled system to a slightly faster extremecooled pain in the a$$. I am a system builder who just happens to like testing systems on air to see what limits exist with stock hardware so that I know what I can safely offer my customers.
I build systems for people who like to use their computers, for those who take them places, you know, in a box? Neither myself nor my customers have any interest in pissing on our motherboards so we can raise our 2k1 score by 30 points, though it doesn't surprise me that you do things like this. But hey, more power to you. :rocker:
so which are the best timings and still stable?Quote:
Originally posted by sierra_bound
I gave cowpuppy's timings a try. Was able to get 264.6X10 at 2.8v (bios setting). I'd post a Sandra screenshot, but the photo hosting site I use is down. I only had time to run 3DMark01 once. Got about 31,350 @ 260X10. Maybe more results later today.
I just tried 2 more modded 1006 and 1006.004 bioses. Apparently Asus has lcoked the agp/pci oiptions out even though it shows in the bios simulation and has an on/off switch. So I hope 1007 works right.Quote:
Originally posted by xgman
Bigtoe just looked in the bios mod program at 1006.004 and he said it shows a pci lock. Has anyone seen a lock with this bios? Maybe someone can figure out how to enable it.
Not sure yet. Unfortunately, I have to work today, so I won't be doing any testing until I get home tonight. 260X10 is definitely stable. If I have time this evening, I'll try to bench at 265X10.Quote:
Originally posted by xgman
so which are the best timings and still stable?
Originally posted by StormPC
That's because air/water/phasechange DO NOT RUN THE SAME TEMPS where everything else is equal. Again, WTF is wrong with you guys?:confused:
Maybe the question is WTF is wrong with YOU. There are a number of experienced members here telling you your full of $hit. Yet you live in denial. Seems to be a bad habit of yours.
Saying that a system runs faster just by being cooler without changing clocks speeds is the stupidest thing I've read here on XS in a long time. I know that I am dumber for just having read it.
But, just for :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:s and giggles over the last hour, I pulled the waterblock on my multimedia rig and slapped on the OEM HSF. Something like that was easy enough to do in 5 minutes. I ran SuperPi and Sandra CPU repeatedly. With zero changes in my system except for the waterblock/HSF swap the results were indeed amazing! Yes....not a f*cking thing different in the scores!
Would anyone else care to try this too? I could be wrong you know;)
NO THANKS! I prefer a kicka$$ aircooled system to a slightly faster extremecooled pain in the a$$. I am a system builder who just happens to like testing systems on air to see what limits exist with stock hardware so that I know what I can safely offer my customers.
Hey, that's okay. Life in the slow lane is cool too :cool:
Go Get 'em Tiger!
Word from Asus:Quote:
Originally posted by xgman
I just tried 2 more modded 1006 and 1006.004 bioses. Apparently Asus has lcoked the agp/pci oiptions out even though it shows in the bios simulation and has an on/off switch. So I hope 1007 works right.
"No officially released BIOS will support this feature because VIA has a problem..."
I wouldn't count on this changing anytime soon.:(
I'm hoping the Gigabyte board I'm getting Friday will be better. Their S754 Pro 250 based boards are very nice!:toast:
**********************mdzcpa*******************
Gee, I guess I stand corrected.:with:
Where are your S754 smashing aircooled 3D benches? An awesome FX-53 rig like yours should be able to put up some big numbers.
Yeah, I thought so!:down:
I have it on good authority that the A8V has already been revised and in 2-3 weeks they will all be shipping with working locks and bioses. I think the fact that some seem to be working more or less fine is just a fluke but there still is some background problems, and we should keep our eye out for the new revs and hope rma is still viable at that time. Not sure how we will be able to tell the new rev's when ordering or rma'ing. This is also most likely why the 1006 bios which has lock options in it but don't show up on the 1.02 rev. boards. I would be willing to bet they show up fine on the new rev #.
This is the same situation with the abit via boards and this leads me to believe it amounts to a via chipset revision. Again I know some of the boards are working and may have locks or partial locks, but there is a problem that is currently being addressed.
I trying to decide whether or not to RMA this A8V rev. 1.02 MoBo I JUST BOUGHT last week or Not?:confused:
It DOES have Locks and Multi's with the 1005.020 or 1005.021 Bioses, and seems to work half-way decently, But Should I Wait For Something Better(If there Is another s939 Board that works!)
Anyone have an Opinion on this? :)
BTW: Don't mean to Go over this Again, but thought I would ask. :cool: