am using 5000 BE, seems there is no improvement..hmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by Hosser
anybody use the snart fan speed on the cpu?might seems not workin, cannot adjust its speed...:confused:
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am using 5000 BE, seems there is no improvement..hmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by Hosser
anybody use the snart fan speed on the cpu?might seems not workin, cannot adjust its speed...:confused:
I'm not running my most stable/highest yet and I can't access the drive my "stability" pics/txt file with the settings is on for at least 18 hours yet, but this is what I usually run day in day out like now. It's fully benchable and passes 3hours 20minutes P95 on core 3 whilst the rest pass 5hours. Not 100% stable at all but more than stable for my uses, never have errors. NB is fully stable, RAM is fully stable however for the CPU core 3 full stability requires one VID notch above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
So, I run:
CPU 1.20VID 1.192V idle/1.184V load (200 x 1300) 2.6GHz
IMC 1.312V (200 x 12) 2.4GHz
RAM 1066 5-5-5-15-11 2.0V
Pics follow=> (click for full details)
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8...ettingsss4.png
Ambient heatsink 18C, Outside -1C.
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1...2083kz0.th.jpg http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4...2084nw6.th.jpg http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6...2085hv0.th.jpg http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2...2086ku3.th.jpg http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1...2087wu5.th.jpg http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1...2088bq3.th.jpg
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Yes the cores are undervolted from stock! Stock 2.3G is 1.25VID 1.24V. :p:
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by tictac
Yeah it works perfectly fine with these CPUs. And the difference is very big with both CPU speed and IMC speed, thanks. ;)
The MSI BETA BIOS thread linked below as we've posted before. The latest BIOS is 133.Quote:
Originally Posted by madfaze
On XS? If so, what's his username?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hosser
Which BETA's? Check Post# 859 and onwards. I tried 133, P0F, P0H and 113 BETA there comparing some. 113 outclasses anything yet apart from its 1066 RAM issues. ;)Quote:
Anyway, about 2 quarters down that page there are some beta BIOSes... If anyone's feeling brave (KTE, here's looking at you =P) you could try them out. I would, but I've just got my system working satisfactorily and I don't want to ruin it now.
kte how come you dont OC these things on water with high voltages?
Because all my gear, every bit of it, incl. my water and TEC setups are around 7000 miles away back in CA at home and I only came here around late March for studies till around March this year in a tiny student flat which just about houses one PC on the desk and don't have a decent WC setup here. I'm a typical student living abroad one year, very tight finances since computers is like the smallest hobby of mine which gets the least time and interest, so not worth it to me yet. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
For Phenom testing; this isn't my daily system and nor will it be. I'm not interested in MHz/bench competitions at all nor that time so I've no need to have anything more than an easy clip on air cooler for basic tests, if I was then it still wouldn't be h2o it'd be phase/dice/ln2 minimum, and typical air cooling is used because over 99% are air users interested in air MHz at decent air voltages.. that's why I'm still on the stock AMD cooler here. :lol:
Of course, those interested in MHz/Benches can get more MHz with higher volts and cooling.. sometimes I contemplate a little effort, but I left that more than 17 months back and I'll stick to that until I get my PhD done with. :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
does the smart fan workin?i had 3pin fan it seems i cannot lower down its speed...:confused:
Yep, I've used 113, P0E, P0F, P0H and on all these the 4-pin CPU fan will work to low fan speed at the temperatures you've set it to. Mine idles 1280RPM and it only gets faster when the core temperature starts going plus 33C.Quote:
Originally Posted by madfaze
You'll have to use the 4-pin CPU fan connectors with a 4-pin connection for that feature.
KTE what bios is that you posted the SS of in post 977?
also I remember tactic doing some of the best bios modding there was for nf2 have you tried to get anyone to look into the bios ?
ouch! got only 3pin in my zalman 9700LED...Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
P0E -> no patch and runs 1066 default. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jonspd
tictac? :p:Quote:
also I remember tactic doing some of the best bios modding there was for nf2 have you tried to get anyone to look into the bios ?
Yeah I remember too.. where hast thou gone, oh tictac? :confused:
A mod would be brill! If only. :(
But it should come with a fan controller? (fanmate)Quote:
Originally Posted by madfaze
I'll try a 3-pin fan on it to see if it works using the CPU fan connectors. Give me an hour. ;)
just misplaced my fanmate :mad: , it used to work before with my k9a2 cf board but t has an option to choose whether a 4pin and 3pin connection,Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
thanks! looking forward to see it...:)
I tried a small mod basically because 3-pin won't work (need a wire for PWM) but nope, you'll need 4-pin for that feature to work. :(
tic tac toe :D
yea it would be nice. maybe we should contact a few people like -=Merlin=- , tmod, oskar, BigToe, etc....
I'm sure there has to be something they can do with them to make them alittle more overclocking friendly :D
Shall we do some mods? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jonspd
I used to keep up with and practise what is covered in here here here here very very regularly but I have hardly any time to think about computer related stuff anymore incl. programming and hence why I quit. Don't remember most of it now but it wouldn't take me long to get back, it's been around 28 months since I left and last had interest in this area. The only problems is, it's too time consuming.
I am trying something though.
thanks!hope that MSI could resolve this thing :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
Yea I think we shall I will join in :D
what do you want to do vtt, vdroop, nb, sb ?
I think the board could for sure use some better cooling then stock have you change the factory thermal paste on nb and sb. I never did. This heatpipe design could be not good and could be transferring heat from the mosfet to nb or vise versa.
hmm good thing i just put 40mm cooling fan in top of the NB... 8k rpm
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...e/DSC01295.jpg
BIOS mods. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jonspd
Trying one now, slight mod only. MSI/AMI mods aren't working much, most BIOSes I tried just adding options in empty trays and unhiding/hiding options but it doesn't work on AMI/MSI BIOS like with Award DFI/Abit BIOSes. :(
Tell you what, if you want a better stable oc, then cool those MOSFETs and inductors instead of that NB. The RD790 is a very cool chip compared to even the P35 chip and won't need voltage above stock nor get hot even when oc'd. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by madfaze
Once those MOS/Ind get a little too hot to touch, they will start making you get failed stability results IME on this board.
Here, this is what you need to cool, just a little air passing over this area is perfect:
Attachment 71803
AND in case you guys didn't know, make sure this "PCIE Gen" setting here is Enabled (they're disabled in the image there) for the PCIe lane you're using with your GPU because Disabled means you get PCe 1.0 and Enabled means you get PCIe 2.0 bandwidth. ;)
Attachment 71802
My machine has been running for a few hours... I checked the heat pipe coming off the MOSFET cooler, a little warm...
Those Inductors are HOT though.. All of them!!
I'm gonna have to get some kind of heat sinks for those... Tall ones!! :D
Thanks for the tip KTE...
Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
thanks for the tip mate!
this is one of the reason that i changed my mobo from k9a2 CF, it has a circupipe on it...:yepp:
for the PCIE Gen setup, what i did is set up to auto..is that correct? i had 3870 vcard...
anythin' in mind?!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
The MOSFETs are under that heatsink with the arrow on them above, right after where the +12V CPU 4-pin power connector is situated. ;)
Everything which comes before the CPU socket area and after the +12V 4-pin needs to be supplied, cooled and regulated well for best results.
Remember: IC's hate heat and anything which initiates or aggravates its onset.
Right now I'm trying to get stable oc's and by that I mean days without failure under dynamic stress to then result in no immediate degradation as witnessed once before, trying to find a sweet spot. For me, it's very important to establish 100% stability as much as I can after all the initial basic testing before calling it stable to anyone else... boasting isn't one of my characteristics, but honesty and genuineness to the best of my ability is, to give accurate feedback reports, as I want stability the same as a factory oc attains. I can go for 1hr Prime, mislead and get everyone in trouble trying to copy, but that doesn't fit inside the stability criteria for me as I oc systems at the 3 places I work at professionally and so I have a very stern criteria to meet: facts. Usually everything and then Linpack compiled for AMD systems to run dynamic loads at dynamic problem sizes for up-to 7 days, but this time, Linpack isn't running for some odd reason and I've not given it another try yet. :shrug:
For those who can attain similar MHz as this chip I have, they can try imitating the settings I use. Saves time, a lot of work and frustration. ;)
Lowest I could achieve fully stable so far for 5 days Prime/Memtest testing on and off, cold, warm, reboot cycling, changing MHz and changing them back again, no freezes, no overheating, no lockups or any performance oddities (SuperPi and some similar mathematical computation based software including Prime95 shows instability in one other way: the computation values be abnormally slow, adrift of proportional scaling) at 2.6G CPU, 2.4G IMC and 1066 RAM is the following ->
(click for full size image: todays testing ongoing at typical temps - idles 31-33C, ambient case 20C, CPU fan <2170/3100RPM, 215W AC load):
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7...7224001xw3.png
I have tried lower IMC VID, it failed by passing 3hrs P95 and suddenly freezing.
Second lowest CPU voltage I tried hard stability testing is 1.264V and that locked up the system after 3hrs Prime. 1.272V is the next I've tried and this is fully stable for many days testing yet but there is a lower region in between that 1.264-1.272V which maybe just as stable, I've not tried yet.
If you really want to find best MHz/V then play around with VIDs/HT ref. Different VIDs allow different voltage range combinations. I could only get 1.27V with 1.225VID CPU or lower. If I want lower volts than that (not auto) then I have to drop VID further and set voltage manually.
anyone has an idea on what size are those circupipes?
http://www.sunonusa.com/pdf/MMF-AD-PR.pdf
you think this would works?
How did you rotate your Zalman I wanted mine to push air out the back but I dont see how the clip would fit in beteween the heat pipes. Can you shoot a pic or tell me how you did it?Quote:
Originally Posted by madfaze
His username is: d412k5t412Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
=)
KTE do all 4 pci-e gens settings need to be enabled? or just the hpet setting?