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Originally Posted by Malkec
Any comment on my other question, Opteron 175 CCBWE 0546XPMW on water?
OEM Monarch 165's on sale- coupon code 41106-120339
$67 off! just ordered another
o0o0oo soooo tempting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
I'm still waiting on the one I ordered Thursday to ship.
I really really hate Monarch, but on the OEMs you cant beat their prices.
Must be the best 0551 ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by fareastgq
I could soooooo buy one, that and the rebate on the A2ZSPlat,
<<<<---starts chanting "MUST NOT BUY, MUST NOT BUY, MUST NOT BUY,"
Have you guys been getting any good steppings on retail Opterons from Newegg or ZZF? I got a 0551 from ZZF last week but its not overclocking very well. Its topping out around 2600MHz with less then 1.5V. I ordered one of the OEM 165's from Monarch yesterday but i dont know if i want to wait around for them to ship when i can just get an in stock one from Newegg or ZZF retail. Retail are only like $30 more when you consider the cost of shipping at Monarch and i also paid the extra $15 for the 3 year warranty. With retail you also get the Opteron stock heatsink/fan which is a pretty good cooler if you ever need an extra or decide to sell the CPU.
Hey man I just ordered a Retail Opteron 170 from ZZF and it will be delievered today and I will post the stepping as soon as I open the box on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
Also I was wondering is there anything I need to know with using/overclocking a Dual core? This is my first one I am using.
Overclocking a dual core processor is the same as overclocking a single core. It just takes a little more testing since you've got two cores instead of one and usually they dont both top out at the same speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
Here is a guide for setting up two iterations of Prime95 so you can stress both cores. I recommend using Small FFTs.
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16446
Prime 95 version 24.14 Custom FFTs in place changing every 15 Minutes is harder than Small FFts.
I can just swap out my Single Core Opteron and slap in this Dual Core without installing the OS again...I am really stupid when it comes to Dual Cores. But I shall learn :)
yah clear the cmos before you reboot, because multi's might change or such, its that simple, same os and all..Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
If you know what you're doing (I think so) you can plug the DC, enter the BIOS (I assume you have the DFI in your sig) and config it so it uses stock/1.4vcore and around 2400mhz. Mem settings a bit loose or a lower divider, F10 and try Windows. If it works, up HTT, memory etc, usual OC task.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
I did that (well, not exactly, I just unplugged the Venice and plugged the 165 :D) and worked. What I mean is you don't need to clear CMOS, a simple OC session should do the work :p:
Got it now...
Stepping is...
CCBWE 0609FPAW
Any reports on this stepping?
so far so good....:toast:
I have one.. did about 2.85 with 1.575v on water. I still have my 2 monarch OEM 165's waiting to ship, hope they're still shipping something good.. because one's going to ebay or the FS sectionQuote:
Originally Posted by ugp
Alrighty...I am reinstalling my OS right now...System won't boot up for some reason after it installed the second core. I can use a fresh install anyway...
I will test this out...I am using Air-Cooling only though. So lets see what she can do.
Is the 704-2BTA BIOS fine for the Dual Cores?
Here is the intial test.... 250x10.0 @ v1.36
1900 @ 690/800 BTW
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...InitalTest.jpg
Mine did 2550 at stock vcore, try that first
What kinda of temps do I want to try to keep it under...
For cooling I am using a Big Typhoon with the stock fan...I can still through my 120CFM fan on there yet to drop temps alittle...I also need to learn real quick how to lap a Heatsink...It would help lots...right now my highest temp I have seen load is 43C
Same settings as above...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...ark06-6210.jpg
The CCBWE don't seem to be as temp sensitive as CCB1E so under 50 should be fine. My 0609 only hits 40C at 1.575v with water
have you installed all the dual core fixes yet? seems like you should be closer to 2000 on that cpu test..Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
I followed these directions and got very good results:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=81429
Also, let the AS5 set and then I bet you could get 2.7 out of that chip.. with 1.52+ vcore maybe.. just a wild ass guess.
nah his score is accurate, he's only clocked at 2.5. Get past 2.7 or something and you might break 2K, get around 3 Ghz to hit 2.3K.
Here's my run @ 3.02 Ghz, albeit terrible ram timings. 7900GT was lightly overclocked, i don't think i had it at the max.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...g/88c55527.jpg
While playing with my unlidded 165 tonight, I accidently applied 1.77v, which is like 1.82v set (1.35v * 136%!!!!!). I diddn't even realise until I got into Windows and checked CPU-Z to make sure I had the right settings (damn good thing I did). I point to direct die cooling and water to keeping the chip from exploding. Once I saw those voltages, I hard rebooted, found the error, and rebooted as fast as my fingers could type. My heart was racing, waiting for it to blow up. Doh! :slapass:
I got alot more testing to do on this CPU.
Here are some more results...stock clocks still...SiSoft testing...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...70/SiSoft2.jpg
Bench stable at 2.7 so far at stock volts.
HIS x1900XTX at only 690/800 in ATI CCC
Memory 1:1 @ 3-4-4-8
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...rk05-12399.jpg
how much can I expect a 165 to achive with default voltage watercooled? around 2,7-2,8ghz??
It all depends on your stepping really. Some do well some don't do so well.
As seen from the picture, u already tested the cpu (it can be clearly seen the AS5 leftovers in the middle of lid). How high did it score?Quote:
Originally Posted by tsuehpsyde
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Funny, look at it from here it's "clear" that this thing has never seen thermal. I'd really like you to drive up here and show me exactly where on this CPU I tested that CPU, because it hasn't even been plugged into my system. Trust me, there's no AS5 or any other thermal residue, unless Monarch decided to test it before me.Quote:
Originally Posted by no_n|ck
Don't call me a liar. When it comes to computer ethics, I'm the last guy to call out in that department. Just because I won't accept your lowball offer (which you lowered after I got my second 165) doesn't mean you can try to make me look bad because you can't afford it. :nono:
http://www.sourcekills.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1883
uhm. your a EDIT I call people names, a flamer in the making. [/edit]. where in the hell do you see residue? who are you? :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by no_n|ck
We do not allow flames, direct or indirect. Do not do this again.
IFMU
tsuehpsyde, that is still advertising. You didnt post a link, but you stated where it was and that it was for sale. That is advertising an ebay auction, which is not allowed as per forum rules. That is also selling/advertising outside of the classifieds section, which is also not allowed.
You may want to re-read the forums policies.
IFMU
Thanks, and not a problem, I'll take note of that for the next time. You can remove any and all references from the thread if you'd like. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by IFMU
Thank you for understanding.
I think I have gotten all of it already out.
IFMU
Hi Guys!
next week I will test my new Opteron 170.
Is an CCBWE 0548 XPMW. What could you tell about this step?
As soon as I get it, I will post something of the cpu capacity in oc.
Thanks a lot! :)
P.s.: It will be watercooled... ;)
Sorry, but i realy didnt want to look that u ar liang, i just want to know how good does it clock. Sorry again for this, it was not my purpose to look like that. Hope u sell it goodQuote:
Originally Posted by tsuehpsyde
0548 is a pretty good week for CCBWEs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicco85
Ahh.. ok, yeah, I guess I got 2100 with 2750.. I thought I got higher than that.. over 2200.. I must have been thinking of someone else's score. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=203739
ok.. now back to your regularly scheduled work avoidance chat.. ;)
Thank you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
I see some cpus of this stepping hit 2,8 GHz with air cooling. I hope that mine could run at least at 2,6 GHz with an "onest" v-core... :p:
I see that many people are buying the 170 not the 165... is there such an difference in OC between the two??
Actually, i don't think there is so much difference in pure oc between the two... But the 10x multiplier can give you a lot of help. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by fscussel
So how do you run 2 instaces of sp2004/prime at once anyways?
This is my opty 165 CCB1E 0608MPMW on very BAD air cooling. :D
http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/9058/3000mhz9tq.jpg
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/6775/1sbench8oi.jpg
Now I'm 100% certain I can easily reach 3ghz if I get it to do less than 50c under full load quite possibly with less than 1.4v, but once it hits 75 degrees I have to terminate prime. Check out my horrible temps, quite unhealthy.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7...oof25eb.th.jpg
Now One of my cores can already prime for hours at 3ghz and 1.4v while the other craps out when the temps rise beyond 72C.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8...oof33ps.th.jpg
I was hoping someone could link me to a guide for DC opty/ ballistix 2gig tweaking. I know my ram is very capable, but so far I can only get 285mhz out of it. I'd like to have 2.9ghz cpu/ 290mhz ram.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8...kershot2if.jpg
They're good chips aren't they? Give them proper cooling though, they will thank you for it with bountiful Mhz increases. Also put a fan on your PWM area, and maybe AS5 the chipset. Ideally, everything is under 50c :)
Alright here is what I got...at stock voltage ~v1.4
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19.../Prime95-2.jpg
I left it run while I was at work for over 8 hours...I am very happy. I put a screen of MBM with the high/low temps hit.
Everyone expecting their 165s tommorow from the Monarch Deal, I was reading over at Hard people have been recieving 0551UPMWs. I'm going to be a tad upset if I get another crappy stepping for the third time in a row. I sure as hell hope thats not what I see when I open my package tommorow.
Yeah I ordered this one around the 4th last week, Here's to hoping I'm NOT the last to be blessed by the oc gods with the golden 0608mpmw . :)
I ordered mine last Thursday. They sold out and had to reorder. My order shipped Wednesday of this week. Some people have reported ordering the same time as we did and getting the 0551s. Chances are that since they were out of stock that they ordered new ones and this is what they got. I am willing to bet Im going to be seeing a 0551 tommorow and not a CC1BE 608. Going to be a big disappointment.
If you get a 3Ghz+ golden 0608, and I get a crappy 0551 etc, Ill buy your 165 that does 2.9 off you. I'm tired of playing the steppings game.
I'm so ticked, Absolute0 always orders at the right time, hes gotten both 0550VPMWs and 0608MPMWs from monarch. How the heck? I got an 0551UPMW and an 0543TPMW.
Oh that sucks. I'd ebay em, and buy some from Dave, or somewhere else where you can pick your steppings.
At least you have a chip that can do 3ghz. I havent ever gotten close to it.
0551 seems to get 2.75 ish average on very high volts 1.5+
0543 only seems to average 2600 or lower.
I also bought a 146 single core for my wifes new machine. Maybe I'll get lucky on that one.
Maybe if I get a 0551 I'll just keep it.. and run 1.7v+ on it to spite it until it dies. Tired of buying new chips :lol:
Though my CCBWE 0609 at 1.65 only loads at 40C.. now I see why water is awesome! At least I have a x1900xt coming on monday! Damn, I can't afford all this, I'm screwed
edit: yeah I'm waiting to see what Dave's new stepping is! One was a 0551, he said he'll get the others today. I cant believe these 4 month old pieces of :banana::banana::banana::banana: are still around :(
Same here I'm tired of it also. I'm almost getting to the point of just paying for a pretested chip that does 2.9+Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
This is the first chip I have gotten that has done well that I ordered without knowing what it was going to be. So far I am very pleased with it for sure. Now it is time I start messing around with my x1900XTX and see what I can do with her.
Is there any reason a chip wouldnt work on dividers?
Guy says he has an 0550VPMW
Got it to 2.6ghz on stock volts, but memory wont go 1:1 over 260, he says core 1 fails prime immediatly on a divider. He's on a DFI board. Anyone have opinions? Is it his CPU or somethin else?
Lol, the hardforum guy? haha I was gonna buy that too.. I pmed him about it as well
Waiting to see what dave gets before committing to buy it.
PS do you still have that 0550? *EDITed* by IFMU
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What do you guys think of Opty 170 0530 TPMW batch 0022? I have one of these and just wondering what to expect from it under good water? Storm rev2 and PA120.2.
On water I dont see why a 0530 wouldn't hit at least 2.8. Good chance it will go higher.
((Deus Falsus reads through thread, eyes his cpu in an awkward manner and subsequently feels something move in his pants.))
Seriously I'm beginning to love my cpu after reading all this itsh. I can pull off 2.9ghz prime stable at 1.39v on air even if it does 65 degrees on load, imagine what it would do if I could get it sub 50 degreess. Amazing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deus Falsus
This is with 2x large ftt?
Yes I posted the pictures on the previous page.Quote:
Originally Posted by krylon
65C??? Jesus that is really warm. My load temps so far are only hitting around 42C during cool air from outside.
Just luck of the draw. I have ordered quite a few from Monarch. I have gotten two 0551s though. One was a 165 that did 2.81 Ghz on 1.53v. The other is a 170 that i ran at 2.75 Ghz with 1.45v.Quote:
Originally Posted by CompGeek
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...l/c42c368f.jpg
I've seen worse 0551s so i won't complain. Overclocking isn't as fun without the duds like 0551s. Greatness only exists with the contrast of 0551 mediocrity ;)
I think I am going to need some water cooling fun here soon.
Any better ways to cool the PWMIC and Chipset without having a fan blowing over what is already on there...
I wish I could get my hands on the aftermark cooler for the heatsink.
watercooling is a good idea.
Putting a fan over the PWMIC area is also a good idea.
I too was wanting to cool my PWMIC area on the DFI NF4 boards. Only problem is I don't think there is any way to watercool these.
No but FragTek does make an awesome fan mounting bracket but it doesn't work on the Ultra-Ds....I wonder if I could custom make one from Plexi-Glass...It couldn't be that hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by krylon
Here is the heatsink I want for my chipset...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=91638
that's a badass cooler for the chipset.. whew..
I am going to pull the sink on my pwmic and use some better thermal adhesive and put a larger/better sink on it.. even with a fan right on it it still hits 50c with full load and warm(ish) 27c ambient..
How do you get a 27c ambient when the max temp for today was only 70F? That's very warm definitely causing the PWMIC to get so high.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
I have a west facing large wall of windows (right on Richardson Bay, looking over Strawberry hill) and in the afternoon it green-houses a bit, so it gets up to 80 with the doors closed when even with mild out door temps... but this was not today... it a month ago when I was testing my 175... one day in march, it got up to 81 in my study.. and I was priming like a mad man. I like to make sure my OCs perform well even with temp spikes... typically the pwmic hovers around 48c full 'dual core' load @ 1.525 vcore with a fan on it.. without the fan it was getting up in the high 60s! maybe the temp sensor on my mobo is reporting too high? anyways.. I think it merits some attention.. a larger sink (maybe) and better thermal paste (definitely).
BTW -
well put. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
Are high PWMIC temps proven to be detrimental to overclocks? The PWMIC are rated to 120C on the Lanparty.
Yes, they've been proven to affect overclockability. ;) Plus, Opterons are "rated" for 69-70C, depending on the model. However, I assure you at those temps, overclocking definately returns diminishing values.Quote:
Originally Posted by krylon
yeah - ok, I might be worrying about nothing here.. I remember reading the pwmic is designed to run at very high temps... but I also read it could affect a stable OC when over 80c - but that info was unsubstanciated.
High temps aren't going to help anything, especially if they're heating up that whole part of the motherboard, best to get a fan on them and move the heat away.
Another coulpe of peeps at Hard reported getting 0551s also.
Well Fedex Just came, and I have to say I'm suprised.
I ordered 2 chips an Opty 165 and a 146. I seem to have 2 brand new steppings. I cant find info on them anywhere.
Here they are... (excuse the smudges my scanner needs a cleaning)
Opty 165..
CCBBE 0610 DPMW
http://www.swva.net/jehamilt/new165.jpg
Opty 146
CACJE 0607APBW
http://www.swva.net/jehamilt/new146.jpg
Anyone have info on these chips.
I can't find anything. I almost positive the 0610 is a brand new stepping, Im not totally sure on the 146.
Predictions?
You miss typed your 146 Stepping...
It is CACJE 0607APBW
Just thought I would point that out :p
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
I cant seem to find anything on the CCBBE chips. Google turns up crap for just a search on CCBBE. Any clue, I think it would imply a new memory controller revision.
Whoa! where'd you get the 165 from? BB mem controller.. weird
Came in this morning from Monarch. Has the BB mem controller been used on another chip. I'm trying to get some idea of what this chip is going to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
I've never seen it, ever on any chip.. It should be older than BH, which may mean non cold bugged.. are those chips retail or OEM? I'm hoping for CCBBE now! I have one coming today and one coming Monday!
It was an OEM chip. I think its the newest revision I have ever seen, I havent seen a 0610 anywhere. I think the BB is going to be newer, because the B1 were and they went like a bat out of hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
I started a thread for its testing also, since it seems to be a totally unknown stepping. I just hope someone else with better cooling than me gets one also. Id like to see results on water.
Testing to begin once I get breakfast :P
I have water, hope I get one!
If this chip gives me the results I am hoping for, I might be investing in water this weekend. Ive been looking for an excuse, and my wife is out of town till next Saturday, so its the best time to buy :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
I hope the BB mem controller clocks like the B1 but doesn't have the serious coldbug!
I've got a vapo in route that should be here Sunday and the 170 in my sig isn't going to cut it so I'll be in the market for something that likes the cold. :)
The CCBBE0610DPMW will be for sure a good Overclocker.
DPMW are former known by the venice 0517DPMW and 0521DPMW as good Clockers.
Hey, actually I don't think DPMW has much to do with anything.. just proves that they were made on whatever day "D" is in week 10. Just like 0550VPMW happened to be made on whatever day V is in week 50.. that letter just means what day the chip was made on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rufus7
Correct, its the CCBBE and the 0610 that could be important.
Repoman i know.
But CCBBE sounds good in my Ears and DPMW also.
And in Germany are Chips of the Week 0610 nearly not available.
Newest stepping I have heard of is CCWBE 0609 SPAW, Intresting to know how BB performs on Phase
I don't have phase cooling to test it out. Unless someone wants to lend me one :PQuote:
Originally Posted by rapty
Testing rig is up and going, Loading OS now on it.
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Not a chance till its been run through its paces :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tsuehpsyde
lol, dude, it could be a dud type chip. We dont know yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsuehpsyde
Dammit at least let me test it before you start jinxing me :P
Come on man, you've had it 2 hours already :p: Let's see something! Damn fedex needs to hurry up
Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
Windows is loading as we speak on my wifes, KN8 SLI. I have read that these boards go to 320 HTT with little problems so we will see how high it can go. It will be going in my expert if it can break 2650 which im sure it will
You'd be hard pressed to find a chip which can't break 2650 now, CCBBE anyone ever seen that type of stepping on another AMD chip?
Tommorrow Im gettin an 0550VPMW batch 0667 (In exchange for my current de-lidded 0550UPMW) :hehe:
Anyone seen an 0667 before?