Let me just say that trying to debug bios settings that cause your computer to crash prime95 after an hour SUX!Quote:
Originally Posted by jwfitt
Let me just say that trying to debug bios settings that cause your computer to crash prime95 after an hour SUX!Quote:
Originally Posted by jwfitt
The funny thing is that on my QX9650, when I'm fine tuning the OC, it's always Core #4 that fails and, amazingly enough, Cores #3 and #4 always reports the lowest temps by 1 or 2 degs.
I guess the temps could be off... but still odd that the supposedly coolest core(s) would fail and not the hotter ones.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dimsdale
Hahaha! No kidding!! I'm glad there's an emoticon that sums up my feelings...
:horse:
But yeah running blend and having to wait an hour every time you run a test...ugh.
I'll be more than happy at 3.8 if I can get that to work. The real puzzler to me is that 4ghz passes small fft testing with no issues. The manual RAM settings are the area I am least comfortable with, but I've gotta think 4 ghz can be stabilized if the right settings were applied there... sigh...
Anyone know if the FSB Strap setting actually affects performance? Is running the Strap at 400 MHz better than running the strap at 333 MHz?
all other things equal, the lower strap will increase performance, but it is hard to get this board stable at high fsb clocks on the 266 strap. 333 seems to be the best of both worlds and the 400 strap seems to be the easiest to stabilize.
Not sure if you've seen this, but damn...
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1138241
4ghz stable at 1.3625 volts on air?? Must be one lucky chip! i see a few others with similar g.skill ram at 4ghz too...
Here are my currently testing settings for FSB 450 / CPU 3.825 GHz / DDR2 1081 on a QX9650. (Update: currently 45 mins prime95 blend stable). Currently I'm seeing load temps of 70, 70, 69, 69.
I think the problem getting higher CPU clocks on the Maximus Formula and at least the QX9650 might be the FSB Term Voltage. In connection with the P5E3, Anandtech said "FSB Termination Voltage: Maximum of 1.50V. Undeniably the Achilles' heel of this fine board, 1.5V (VTT) is simply not enough to carry most 65nm quad-cores above ~500MHz FSB. Most CPUs/MCHs require this voltage to quickly ramp up from the default (1.20V) to near maximum when overclocking from about 450MHz FSB and higher." (See http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3156&p=6)
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Diabled
Relax: 0
CPU Voltage : 1.36875 (1.3520 in Everest) [UPDATED]
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto (1.6160 in Everest)
DRAM Voltage : 2.04 (2.0960 in Everest)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50 (1.4240 in Everest)
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : auto
________________________________
QX9650
Asus Maximus Formula (1004)
G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR2-1066
Thermaltake eXtreme 120+AS5+Scythe
WD 150GB Raptors in RAID 0
EVGA 8800 GT
My current ~air settings 24/7 on full load (Rampage 0219@bios)
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/maai8nmbpa6ibccy4t2x.jpg
LMFAO did you see how the Nvidia chipset needed 1.68v to clock 4ghz.Quote:
Originally Posted by jwfitt
OUCH !
Hmm.... If you are passing small fft at 4ghz, but not blend, that (supposedly) suggests it's more of a RAM problem than a CPU problem directly, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by jwfitt
If so, maybe it is your FSB Termination Voltage then. You are on AUTO for that, right? What is the bios (and everest as "FSB VTT", I think) reporting as your voltage there under the AUTO setting?
I thought that's what it suggested, since small fft was focused on testing your cpu and blend seems more like a RAm and overall system test. Most people I've seen seem to tweak their cpu settings first (using fft as feedback), then move onto RAM and blend mode...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimsdale
Hmm...well at the time of success with small FFTs I was manually set at 1.4 in the BIOS for the FSB VTT, not sure what everest reported it as.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimsdale
I never did try pumping the FSB VTT up into the yellow numbers. Maybe I'll give that a go when I get home in 2 hours...weee!
so you CAN flash back to MF bios? I just need some confirmation
there seems to be some mixed reports over the internet and the search feature doesn't seem to work for me..
Yes you can flash back, already did................
Why? The RF bios is far better than any of the MF bios'...far more stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by nordien
To be sure the flashback can be done !Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlybabyface
its been confirmed many times over :wiggle:Quote:
Originally Posted by nordien
You guys with the QX9650, are you shooting for 4GHz only on highest multi and then using a divider to make results? Cause if a 1.5yo Q6600 can do 450~505 on air on even my P35, I find it odd that a new Penryn cant keep up if not pass it by by just a tad. I use the 8x on just about all my systems even if they offer 1 or 2 higher.
What happened to overclocking the old reliable way, where we check for max clock v/s max FSB but isolated from the rest of the system? are you guys disabling ALL performance options related to chipset and RAM? Do you keep RAM in 1:1 w/ relaxed timings and adiquite volts to insure stability?
Keep in mind when aiming for FSB, it is not just the CPU, but the mobo as well. creative use of FSBT, GTL and PLL can all play an important role in higher CPU FSB improvements. On our mobo, Static Read Control helps smooth out the curve on higher FSB climbs. This mobo tested better then most in this area since a lot dont offer this setting.
What is the box labeld max for each QX9650 and Q9450 as opposed to Intel MAX?
My QX9650 is not the greatest. I started with loose RAM and lots of AUTO and went after the FSB.
I've got it at 421x9.5 right now for 4GHz and I left it priming this morning, so we'll see how it does when I get home.
I'd like to run higher FSB but it doesn't seem to like to go much above 450. I'll post my settings later when I get home.
yo mates. i know this is premature but i am just exhilarated that i got this far that i just got to tell u guys. based on the input from nuckin futs and so many other personal from this site, i have just got to 3.96GHz. going to start Prime 95 Blend test shortly. If everything is ok, will post more info tomorrow. for now find the screenie and bios settings.
btw, everyone, please comment if my volts are acceptable based on the screenie coz this IS my weak point. also please comment my bios settings in case i crash. ;)
alright, here are some updates with readings from BIOS
please take note that the figures in bold are actual readings from BIOSPHP Code:Ai Overclock: [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up: [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control: [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [9]
FSB Frequency: [440]
FSB Strap to North Bridge: [400]
PCI-E Frequency: [118]
DRAM Frequency: [1173]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
Primary Info : 5-5-5-15-3-42-6-3
Secondary Info : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
DRAM Static Read Control: [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister: [Light]
Transaction Booster: [Disabled]
Relax Level [0]
CPU Voltage------------------1.475 [[B]1.456v[/B]]
CPU PLL Voltage ------------- 1.68 [[B]1.792-1.808v[/B]]
North Bridge Voltage -------- 1.51 [[B]1.552v[/B]]
DRAM Voltage ---------------- 2.20 [[B]2.304-2.320v[/B]]
FSB Termination Voltage ----- 1.48 [[B]1.552v[/B]]
South Bridge Voltage -------- 1.100 [[B]1.120v[/B]]
Loadline Calibration -------- [Enabled]
CPU GTL Refference ---------- [0.63%]
North Bridge GTL Reference -- [0.67%]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage -- [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage -- [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage - AUTO [[B]1.152v[/B]]
SB 1.5v Voltage ------------- 1.55 [[B]1.616v[/B]]
CPU + PCI-E Spread Spectrum --------- [Disabled]
I'd be perfectly happy at just 400 FSB with my 9650, I've gotten to 450 on the FSB and stayed fine on small FFT testing. It all comes crashing down when I get into Blend testing though.
However, I've just bumped a few things up to see if blend would stabilize at 10x400, and it's looking good. Well over an hour going at the following settings:
Gonna start scaling back some settings and see where it goes...Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 10
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-801
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax: 7
CPU Voltage : 1.4875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.67
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.70
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
last update for the night before bed. system boots well into windows without any glitch. however, prime95 is no go. fatal error the moment the the blend test is run.
anyone with ideas on this? i am guessing perhaps there is shortage of Vcore here but hope someone can give me some ideas more. will try again tomorrow after work.
@ cyrixMII300, Great job on that so far.
What happened to all those RAM tweakers on here? Never even made a comment on my RAM sub timings POST a week ago. I thought this had become a heavy RAM sub timing tweakers tread. Oh well!
So any other RAM tweakers left here? I was wondering if any of you coming from previous single phase DDR voltages have noticed an OC performance either in stability or temps w/ same 4 stick configurations when moving to this w/ new 2 phase DDR? Hows overclocking on the 2x2g looking for top end OCZ offerings compared to the 2x1g? Is 2x2g @ DDR1200 realistic for everyday use and good temps?
I haven't been able to get my 2x2 sticks to even DDR1100.
I've been through ReaperX, G.Skill and now these Mushkins (all PC28000)
I dont run 4GB so I cannot say, Dominators 2x1GB PC8500 will do 1275 on this board with a little extra coolingQuote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
While the timing is rather relaxed, A high FSB will compensate for any bandwidth loss, this board really likes 500FSB and 1200+ ram
DRAM Command Rate - 2N
Dram Timing Control - Manual
*In Brackets are timings that can be optimized later, outside of the brackets is a good starting point*
CAS# Latency - 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay - 5
RAS# PRE Time - 5
RAS# ACT time - 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay - 4(3-4)
Ref Cycle Time - 45(25-55)
Write Recovery Time - 6(3-6)
READ to PRE Time - 4(2-5)
READ to Write Delay (S/D) - 9 (7-10)
WRITE to READ Delay (S) - 5 (3-6)
WRITE to READ Delay (D) - 5 (4-6)
READ to READ Delay (S) - 4 (3-5)
READ to READ Delay (S) - 6 (5-7)
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S) - 4 (3-5)
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D) - 6 (5-7)
DRAM Static Read Control - Disabled (Enabled)
Ai Clock Twister - Light (Strong)
Transaction Booster - Disabled
Relax Level - 2 (0-3)
A few numbers changed for improved bandwidth but this setup got my Dominators stable at 1274MHz 3 hours OCCT and still running
jwfitt,
CPU Voltage at 1.4875 for 4ghz with a Thermalright eXtreme 120!
What kind of temps is that generating??
In prime95 testing, all four core temps are hanging around 70*C.
How can I tell if my CPU is throttling? I used to use ThrottleWatch, but that hasn't been updated in forever it seems and won't run on my rig.
I totally give up on my board and chip. I've went through 3 quads(vid's of 1.2875, 1.325, and 1.2125) and still haven't touched 3.6ghz without going over 1.45volts(voltage damper off which puts about 1.35 to chip under load). I've tried testing cpu pll, fstb, cpu volts, nb volts, switching from 4x1 to 2x2 for ram. CPU is on its on loop with a thermochill pa 120.3.
THe chip with vid 1.2125 will do 9*365 at 1.275v(in bios again with damper disabled) all day but as soon as I go for 9*370 volts have to take an exponential leap.
If ANYONE can lend any advice AT all, I'm all ears. If there is something quirky about this board that I don't know about like jacking up the sb volts help, let me know.
Sorry had to vent my frustration. :)
->FSB Termination Voltage
Folks, take a look at your FSH Term Voltage. BIOS allows you to set it up to 2.00 V. However.... it seems that the highest voltage the board will actually put out (according to Everest) is about 1.50V.
Anyone seen Everest actually report something higher than 1.5 V?
Hehe. Hot! RealTemp was hanging around 61-66 for Core 0, all the others were low 60s (this is at full load). Everest/CoreTemp show it 8-10 C higher than Real Temp, but alot of people seem to think Real Temp is the more accurate reading for this CPU...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimsdale
I'm not too thrilled with those settings, working on getting a 3.8 configuration that I'm more comfy with going at the moment. I still can't figure out what my bottleneck is since small fft passed with lower cpu voltages.
Does anyone know how high you can safely push the FSB Voltage setting? What does it directly affect in regards to overheating if you push it too far?
Thanks
Now that you mention it I'm not sure I've ever seen it over 1.55 ... I'll check on my next reboot/tweak run...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimsdale
will ddr3 run on the maximus with rampage bios??
O.K., mine look pretty close to yours, however, all my sub timings are set as WAuto, till I learn otherwise of their tweaking performance results. Here's a recap of my settings for rig 2 in sig;Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
DRAM Frequency: [DDR2-1153]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
Primary Info : 5-5-5-15-3-42-6-3
CAS# Latancy: [5]
RAS# to CAS# Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [15]
RAS# to RAS# Delay: [Auto] = 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: [Auto] = 42
Write Recovery time: [Auto] = 6
Read to Precharge Time: [Auto] = 3
Secondary Info : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay(S/D): [Auto] = 8
Write to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 3
Write to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 5
REad to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Read to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 6
Write to write Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Write to Write delay(D): [Auto] = 6
DRAM Static Read Control: [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister: [Moderate]
Transaction Booster: [Auto]
Can you give feedback on the sub timings in BOLD as to how they can be improved and in wich direction (wich ones equal higher or lower as better/tighter)? I'm not looking to tighten for beyond realistic everyday use, just better number crunching, or media encoding performance.
Also, Inoticed you use Ai of "strong" yet booster disabled and further relaxed to 3. What difference did this make (for real world stability, NOT scores as much) v/s Ai Moderate or light w/ booster to Auto or disabled 0. I always get lagging if forcing Ai Strong or booster to enabled when at 1153MHz+.
Wow, it has to be the BIOS settings then cause I have a GO q6600 w/ 1.3000 VID and it has lil' trouble to 500FSB. Look at the previous POST I made about this. NOTE the featutres to try and enable v/s the ones to disable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunlance
NO, this mobo is not socketed for DDR3.Quote:
Originally Posted by loften
i get it.. thanks..
Did you try 2x1G of ram? Is the nb water cooled with one of those chipset coolers you have listed? Try the ram at 1:1 to start?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunlance
You realize what the Relax 7 does to your memory performance, right? It makes your performance level 7 + 7 = 14. I tried that and ran the quick benchies in Everest. It's really high latency and slow thruput.Quote:
Originally Posted by jwfitt
I sure hope that's not why you are passing prime.
when I'm using 4.50.1330Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley Pain
Quick question. MB temp dropped out of detection and mis-read by PC ProbeII for a moment? I know many of you must have experienced this at some point. For example, right now just out of the blue, mine just read as 32c but dropped out of detection by Everest. PC ProbeII now shows in the RED @ 154c for a few seconds.
Has anybody come accross a cure for this, or notice at wich point it appears to stop or not happen as much. It's happend to 2 of my MAXIMUS mobos and more on older one. I noticed it happens more w/ higher FSB and NB voltages.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
yes i have seen this too. also happens to nb temps and sometimes to various other PCprobe items such as fan rpm. i am thinking its something to do with the refresh cycle of the software. apart from that no clues since this happens randomly.
Hi guys
I was working stable on 450x8 strap 400 with 2gb ocz reaper 1150@1199, but suddenly one of the modules stopped working, it hang on restart with detecting dram info. At the store they checked both modules and their were working fine, but still I thought that maybe it's good to switch them, and I did. To geil black dragon 2x2gb 800mhz and set them to 1081 strap 333 2.16v. 3dmark stable, cod4 stable, crysis stable (although from time to time i see something like a little stutter in graphics, which I didn't see with my ocz 2gb pair). the geil mem conf fails occt test after 5minutes. It doesn't matter for me to be 100% stable as long as the games work fine, but maybe the cause of the stutter is the memory issue? What do you think about geil black dragon 2 x2gb 800mhz 5 5 5 5?
thx :)
p.s. Maybe I should gt ballistix 4x1gb 1066?
You need the newer version of Everest 4.50.1330 or the beta 4.20.1307Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
I had the same problem till I upgraded Everest.
I will look at your ram and see if I can make any suggestions and post later today, setting Booster to strong improved Latencey and slightly better read/write/copy scores in Everest.
So I run on strong if it dosent effect stability
The beta 4.20.1307 works very well with this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
I'm using it and have all temps/volts reporting normally.
run the GEILs at 900Mhz and try again... 2gb dimms don't clock as good as 1gb dimms... why didn't you just buy 1066Mhz dimms to have some headroom... could also be ya memory controller is getting dodgy...Quote:
Originally Posted by youraa
and for the 4 Ballistix sticks I think you are going for even more trouble as many many users have issues with them running in 2 pair configuration on the Maximus...
Sorry for taking my sweet time to reply. I hit 3.8 with some stability, and 9x440 long enough to get a screen cap. I really haven't had much time to experiment with voltages, but it is priority #1 when I get home this afternoon. Thanks for all of your help so far. My only remaining question is could I get any possible performance gains by dropping my multiplier to 8 and raising my FSB? Thanks again for your kindness.
definately, lower multi and high FSB will always give you better performanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Webster
Hi guys , great thread here !!!
I have a Maximus Formula on the way , is there only one mod for these (as shown in the OP) ? It says there :
So there is no resistance value for this ? Are there any other mods to do before I install it ?Quote:
Use a HB / 3B / 4B pencil, 2 or 3 strokes only.
:up:
Do you folks ever see prime95 crash as in "prime95 has stopped working" and the application quitting out from under you? What do you make of that?
Do you suppose that is a bug in prime95 or is that a bad OC?
I have had that happen b4 when my FSB was around 475 or higher and not enough NB volts.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimsdale
I would suspect you need a drop or 2 more NB volts
Well well well ... after reading 42 pages i´m still not sure where is the latest information on how to do this, ( the 1st page ) ... can someone resume or indicate where (post) is the most new guide on this flash ... btw, any problem if i translate this guide to Portuguese BR - offcourse i will leave username and link back to here !
make a bootable media device ( USB Stick... CD.. ect)
you will need these
http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/Asus_Rampage/HPUSBFW.zip
http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/Asus_Rampage/USB-Boot.zip
Download AFUDOS and toss it on the media along with the RF Bios
Latest Rampage bios http://rapidshare.de/files/38827325/RF0219.zip.html
AFUDOS http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&d=1205468995
Once you have everything ready boot from your media and then type
AFUDOS /iRF0219.rom /pbnc /n
reboot and your done.
I've been running at 3.8ghz rock solid as of last night (in Blend), I'm currently tweaking my RAM settings and adjusting voltages to see how low I can bring them down before I lose stability. I'll post the exact config later tonight.
Edits are in Bold
Last Edit: 8:31pm EST, 4/10/08
Code:Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.5
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-961
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
(All Other Timings on Auto)
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax: 0
CPU Voltage : 1.375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.30
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Hello can anyone help me I just returned a Maximus Formula because a USB port was blown so I got a new board from FRY's and it seems to work great until I try to OC it heavy. I have a Q6600 and I was running it on the previous Max at 3.9 I can't get close but here is the thing: It runs everyhting at much lower volts than the other board.. I can stabilize 3.7 at 1.38Vcore which amazing in my opinion but as I try to raise it and put prime on the board just turns off??? Very strange I understand blue screen freezing and other stuff but it just turns off... I haven't read the entire thread to see if others have had this problem, but if anyone could help me that would great...
jwfitt,
Good to see your settings! I was just about to give up on 3.8. I will try these today. I look forward to your exact config!
Many thanks,
dimsdale
Hi everyone, this is my first post.
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/7...0055515ht4.jpg
Man, EVERYONE is getting better results than me with their quad. I wonder if it's the chip or the board....
I'm going to try another quad and see what happens.
Anyone tried OC gold edition in this board, 1G or 2G modules ?
1 Hour OCCT Stable
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4...tstableog7.jpg
my settings
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 483
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1160
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 3
Read to Precharge Time : 4
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 4
Read to Read Delay (S) : 5
Read to Read Delay (D) : 4
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 4
Write to PRE Delay : 13
Read to PRE Delay :
PRE to PRE Delay :
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level 7
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.3875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
I had this a few times and I found for mine it was Futz'd Up drivers from nVidia and the Intel chipset. after cleaning complete w/ CCleaner of old drivers and reg files, it was fine again. I had the same model on another Maximus and it was just restarting anywhere from 2hrs or even in 1 hr just like that, but after cleaning it went for hrs on end exactly as was. I believe it was because of hard crashing too many time previously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guacomole
OCZ? No, the Crucial Ballistix, yes, each the PC2-6400 & PC2-8500. They play well on this mobo and OC great. Even the 800's go over 1066.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sources
If OCZ, I'd guess just as good. I ran several sticks of Platinums of each 2x2 and 2x1g and they did great. Even if the OCZ Gold dont OC as far, they are pretty rock solid in my experiences on oldrr mobos.
I take it back, S3 on a 5:6 @ 480+ sucks again. I guess it was the one week special or maybe the oS and driver issue. Cause now it fails so often that I have to use S4 now. It does continue to function if on 1:1 at any FSB to 525 so it has to be a chipset and or driver instability. What makes little sence, is it has passed with flying colors for several months on this profile and is in use as daily profile @ 485x8. Could it be the BIOS versions? Cause I know for sure just before I got the corrupted v907, S3 failed at any FSB (even stock) and divider. I realize most will not use since most here are built for benchmarking and always on, but if anybody useing as a real world app workstation can comment.
Anuaja, what RAM are you using and how many GB?
Here's a question for you guys with more experience.
Is it possible to wear a motherboard out? I think I probably used too much voltage on mine in the early days before I figured out the settings and stuff, since this is the first BIOS I've had where you can do anything...
Either I've had really bad luck with 4 different CPUs and 10 different kits of RAM, or else my board maybe isn't getting it done. I guess since voltage can degrade other components, it could also do the same to the board, right?
Thanks Nuckin I think I will just reinstall an operating system and see if that does it I have been OCing the living crap out of my 9800GX2 and that probably makes the most sense because I really think the board is fine..
thx for the response :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
will try 900mhz in a mom. Hmmmm you're saying that with 4gb crucial I may have problems, good thing I didn't order them yet, maybe I'll go back to 2gb then and set the crucial to 1199 strap 400 450x8 as I had before.
I ran those geils 1117mhz :))) but only for 3dmark - new record 16700 :)
But I yhink there is something fishy with them though, you were saying about the memory controller is there any way to check that?
thx
I run S3 on a 5:6 divider 489FSB with NO issuesQuote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
This is how its set in bios
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/DSCF0260.jpg
Tried those.....based on my results, I think you will be telling me that some of those voltages you had in your original post were actually a little higher....:DQuote:
Originally Posted by jwfitt
every setup is different, you cant take 1 persons settings and apply them to your rig and expect them to work.
Better to take it as a starting point and adjust things from there on your own.
8GB's of ram you'll need very high trfc settings probably 55 or higher
Odd, I have the same except even added the ACPI 2.0 support, and yes, it was all enabled during BIOS flash and new OS install, so I dont understand. I had understood that that disabling 2.0 just forces BIOS to function as ACPI 1.0, so this works for you, not 2.0?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Maybe you can PM me with you BIOS version voltages to compare. As well as RAM, as maybe it might help to determine what's going on.
So you can do S3 throught the day as well as for long sleep times of over 12hrs and resume on cold mornings? Mine used to be OK during the day, but failied often on resume in cold mornings.
Interesting! I'm at trfc=52 now (board default). That's exactly the type of setting that's probably causing me the problems. I get prime95 failures at 2 hours, or 8 hours. If I had a setting that was off by about 6%, that might explain why its so darn hard to reproduce and intermittent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Thanks for the tip. I'll work that into my testing.
Here's some more on the topic : http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=35435
Testing now at FSB 400 / DDR 1066 / auto memory timings+tfrc=60. Got my fingers crossed!
dimsadale, see my earlier post for edited values :)
Interesting discussion on the trfc. I may do some reading and play with the RAM options some more.
well latest update is that i am giving up on 4.0GHz for now. got to 3.9GHz and am sticking to it for the moment while trying to stabilize enough until i can run Prime95 for at least 16hours. if that passes then we'll see what happens. right now it doesnt pass a minute with rounding error. will keep u guys posted. btw, i realized that this chip runs with 1.184v in bios at default. ;)
Rampage+Reaper+QX9650+9800GX2 installed, on the bench and waiting to be tweaked.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonny_ftm
Air, water (120 + 240 Rad, Apogee, FlexXLC blocks & 100lph pump) and TEC (225W Qcmax and Titan Amanda/Ultra) are available cooling options.
Aiming for 5.0GHz with as high FSB & memory bandwidth as possible.
Any suggestions?
Ok. I set my tRC to 60 and still got a rounding error at about 2 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by jwfitt
However, I looked at the EPP for the G.Skill 8500 memory in Everest and saw that the tWR was specified as 13 for 533 MHz operation. Bios was setting it for 11. Now testing at 13.
i was gonna ask the same thing...Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
Anuaja, what RAM are you using and how many GB??
I let mine set itself (row refresh) in Auto to 42, wich is the max for 903 and it is good enough. So is lower # here actually tighter or more relaxed?
UPDATE; Today I tested on 2nd mobo w/ 903 and the FSB strap only works if I choose 333 when on my 5:6 divider. I noticed no big difference in selecting 333 strap v/s auto since the only one that mine could use is 333. What do you guys noticing is setting fixed 333, if using a divider that only belongs to 333?
jwfitt,
Are you still prime95 blend stable? I don't think this is a matter of voltages.
Rather, our lovely blue G.Skill 8500's are requiring some rather particular memory timing settings.
Time to dive in!
My RAM Corsair CMX2x2048-8500C5D rev 1.1 2x2gb, you can see at my first post :D
Well I was board, had a couple of beers, decided to lap cpu & hs, it went pretty well, easier than I thought it would be. However my temps really did'nt drop that much??? Before lapping my idle temps were 40, 39, 36, 35.
Load running prime95 was 58, 56, 47, 46. Now after lap, Idle is 35, 33, 32, 31, Prime 57, 56, 54, 52. There definatly more even on each core, but while priming there not all that much lower. Now, i just did this 1/2 hour ago, hopefully will improve after AS5 sets in better. One thing I did do different was applied the AS5 the way there web site suggests instead of spreading a thin layer over the entire cpu (that is the way I had done it origionally, before lapping)
I also tried the pencil mod for the vdroop, that really worked well, went from 1.26 w/droop to 1.18, now @1.26 w/droop to 1.25, as per everest. so that went well.
I know the temps arn't bad for an air setup, but I want to go for a 3.6GHz overclock, and try to keep temps under 60.
I'll let run for a couple of days like it is see if it improves, if not I guess I should order that Ultra 120 exterme I've been drooling over, just dont have the extra funds till the end of the month.
Rick
I was around 1.375 cpu vcore, and auto ram timings. Right now, it's looking pretty good for 9.5x400, 333 strap, 801 Ram with manual timings at 4-4-4-12, and 55 trfc, twister:moderate, booster:disabled @ 3 (gonna try to bring to 0). Same everything else as my previous post...well over an hour now, gonna let it run while i go sleep! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dimsdale
Which is better performance wise:
445*8 = 3560MHz with DDR2 @ 1066MHz giving you a 12:10 ratio.
OR
400*9 = 3600MHz with DDR2 @ 1066MHz giving you a 16:12 ratio
Shouldn't you be able to reduce cpuv going from 9 multi to an 8?
Thanks for that. My Maximus is now a Rampage. Slick mod, but could you put a link to the latest 219? BIOS and to the Asus Rampage downloads page on the first post?
I would think the 8 multi would do slightly better, but you'd have to bench it to be sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
Another option is 450x8 3600MHz @ 1080MHz and that with the right timing is no a bad setup, or wasnt for me anyways when I still had my Q6600
I have read in some reviews about 3870 cards not working in maximus motherboard. Was going to buy a Diamond 3870 512mb DDR4 512mb anyone every heard of this problem.
No problem at all. I had the Diamond HD3870 512 and it ran perfect, now I have the Diamond HD3870X2 1G and it runs prefect.Quote:
Originally Posted by trt740
Sorry if this has been asked before, but is it better to flash this board to the Rampage Formula BIOS, or the latest Maximus Formula beta BIOS? I have a board coming, and I want to get it set right the first time. I know the Rampage BIOS is a little dated compared to the Formula one, but I'm not sure if they've increased the FSB capability with the Formula one or not. Last I heard the Rampage one was getting higher FSB on peoples boards. Thanks
Sorry if this has been asked before, but is it better to flash this board to the Rampage Formula BIOS, or the latest Maximus Formula beta BIOS? I have a board coming, and I want to get it set right the first time. I know the Rampage BIOS is a little dated compared to the Formula one, but I'm not sure if they've increased the FSB capability with the Formula one or not. Last I heard the Rampage one was getting higher FSB on peoples boards. Thanks
I am setting mine up this weekend and I am certainly going to use the latest Asus bios that is specific to this board. If it doesn't do what I want it to then I will perhaps flash to the Rampage bios. Not sure if I would want to void my warranty in hopes of better performance or sell it and buy something different.
Ive overclocked my q6600 to 3.3 and running prime95 my temps are good for cpu but my northbridge is reaching 55 sometimes, it idles at 48 which is same as what it was on my 3ghz setting.
My southbridge is running at 49-50 on full load.
Am i looking at trouble down the road if its running at these temps?
Also my cpu voltage is 1.30volts but as soon as i run prime 95 it drops to 1.26 s this normal?
What do you folks make of this "Write Recovery Time" (tWR) setting in the BIOS? According to the BIOS, it likes the default to be 6.
Now looking at the EPP for my G.Skills 8500s in Everest, it seems to be saying that this Write Recovery Time (tWR) should be set for 13!
I've looked at a lot of people's settings, and I've never seen anyone post a tWR that high. Does 13 make any sense?
What is your NB voltage? You might not need it as high as you have it. Try dropping it in .1 increments and see if you can maintain stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krav
Do you have Load Line Calibration enabled?Quote:
Originally Posted by Krav
no way back turn this difficult choice ...serious thought at least.. double
the good things are so much better than the new bios available?
The Stilt thanks for this tutorial very nice, very sharp :clap:
congratulations, fabulous job for the comunity. :up:
my NB voltage is at 1.31 in bios = 1.36 ( real ) i had it at 1.33 (real) and lost stabilityQuote:
Originally Posted by dimsdale
I should say i have the SE version but not using watercooling on the NB also.
Nope guess i should give that a bash then? Ive been purposely setting my voltages in the bios at higher volts due to the overvolt thing does this make the bios values same as the real values?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimsdale
page 13 tells you how to go back. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MrHydes
Would be great to have the OP updated with the latest info so people can stop asking the same questions over and over again. It'll also make it easier to search for information.
+1 AgreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Stanley Pain
Loadline Calibration will make the BIOS voltage and actual voltage much closer when the CPU is under load. It's generally helpful for overclocking as you won't have to have your CPU jacked up with extra volts at idle just so that you have enough after the drop that takes place with load.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krav
Google on maximus formula and "vdroop". Or just search this thread!
yes it would be nice, but i imagine the stilt has alot of other stuff going on atm :p:
perhaps someone (not me, im lazy) should start a part2 as kup has done on the maximus
Or perhaps people should read through the thread as there's a lot of good info in there. I know it's a long thread but it saves asking the same question that must have been asked many times before. Took me the best part of a month to read the 1st Maximus Formula thread but I found the answers to a lot of what I wanted to know in there. I was also able to see the results of each of the BIOS releases before I decided whether to upgrade or not.
Patience young Skywalker :)
very true, those people interested in the mod SHOULD read through all the pages to gather as much info as they can, all i was stating was that the basic information could be consolidated into a really useful guide :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by GlowingBulb
kk thanks for help :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dimsdale
O.K. I tested since last night by Disabling ACPI 2.0 and repost of VGA was already off too and as I stated, I alwayz use S3 only, and of corse ACPI suprt On. 3 time of S3/STR and out again and so far, so good. On day 2, yet it was a warm morning here in California.
Also, to the guy about BIOS overvolting. You already know this mobo overvolts just about all the settings. so you need to set as LESSER value to get what you might want in actual as reported and used and not go to high. That is why it makes sence to POST here with actual or as reported by CMOS, not as set. It is simple, set a voltage, then reboot entering CMOS to read it in Power management. Just like that. And these should be the only voltages we need to see in POST since each mobo will overvolt a tad different and especially in a combo of variuos PLL and GTL settings as well as FSB level.
Loadline Calibration is definitely a must. Without it enabled my voltages were all over the place and my system was really unstable.
That HD 3870 compatability nonsense mentioned above is silly.