0903 works good for meQuote:
Originally Posted by cris
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0903 works good for meQuote:
Originally Posted by cris
Are you by any chance running a bios emulator for Vista? To emulate the SLIC information? The same thing happens with nVidia boards and their software if you run the bios emu'!Quote:
Originally Posted by Trice
I am and have bean reffering to as reported in CMOS Power Management. For my mobo, the lowest BIOS set of 1.5 + 1.612 fright off the top so that's a starting point. 1.60v set should get you over 1.7vQuote:
Originally Posted by pazza316
FSBT is directly related to hte CPU PLL, so if not upping the FSBT a lil with the PLL and too low a GTL volt ref, it is not gonna' return as stable or high CPU and system FSB for overclock. The quads are already limited to higher FSB OC, so you need to make use of PLL, FSBT and CPU GTL to get it up a bit more. 1.712v reported is a good average for a quad to beyond 450 w/ an FSBT of 1.5v and of corse the max GTL for us on this mobo is only 63x. DFI lets us up it to 73x or above, so a 500x7 on that mobo is a lot easier to reach.Quote:
Originally Posted by devilhood
If at least wanting to try it just to know it's possable, do so w/ only 2 slot occupied for best results. You can put them back in later and lower as need be but just so you guys know this is what hinders a higher CPU and system FSB overclock.
Wow, you got a good one like mine. So you should be able to get 500x w/ lil mod easily. Why not make use of lower 7 or 8x multi for better FSB?Quote:
Originally Posted by pazza316
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Originally Posted by kup
WOW, 5000 posts into 1 !!! Thanks. I learned how to beat the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: out of my p5w dh in a thread just like that. Time to duck and cover maximus, here I come!
The intel RAID/AHCI needs to be enable to be seen by BIOS and Windows. However, the iostar driver is not there so it can't load, and yet you can't add it to the OS if you can't get it to boot. This is why stil to this day, us S2K3 and XP users need the f6 install, because it needs to be enabled and directed to the floppy during initial install.Quote:
Originally Posted by iadstudio
Now it can be added but you need to have/or borrow "2" other SATA HDD's (nothing will be written to them). And a 3rd party legasy SATA controller.
Connnect the 2 extra HDD's to the Intel ICH9R port 1&2 with RAID Enabled and delay to 35sec. Connect your existing OS to the SATA drop in card (MAXIMUS has no J-Micron SATA like P5E). If this card needs drivers, make sure they were installed when OS was on Intel IDE as before so they are ready. You will need to have the "2" HDD's cause Intel ICH9 is not active if NO or only 1 HDD is connected, so Windows will not see it and of corse you wont be ably to run Matrix app. This is why we trick the BIOS and the Intel RAID booot ROM to think it has a set of RAID disc ready to set up.
You will now be able to boot into Windows and run Intel RAID app to install the iostar driver and the rest of the Matrix Storage Manager as would have bean done in the first place.
You can now boot to XP and go to Device manager to confirm you see Intel SATA RAID Controller in SCSI and RAID Controllers. Now you can shut down, rearrange your HDD's as before or with the RAID Ready 2nd HDD to port 2 of ICH9R next to your existing OS you're done w/ SATA drop in card and other HDD's if borrowed).
Congrats, you ae now Intel RAID Ready and can follow the set up in Matrix app to migrate RAID in a Windows inviorment. It will even run in background if you still wanna' work.
Good Luck!
I realize a lot may not have a SATA drop in PCI or other type of card so the here's option 2 real quick.
Since Intel RAID arrays are transfeable such as ICH8 to 9R, you can connect as described above on another borrowed or your previous mobo that has both Intel ICH8/9R and an onboard 3rd party (J-Micrn or Sis) SATA controller.
Load your OS in safe mode, do not allow to update anything at this point. Go directly to the save ICH9R RAID app and run as described above. If for some reason it needs to run in regular mode, go ahead but cansel any "found new hardware" and updates and go directly to Intel RAID app.
Move back to you Maximus and you are good to go.
For those who only want the RAID/AHCI but not the Matrix app, do as above but when you go to Device manager, use driver to update manually and direct to a folder where you extraced the iostar driver from the f6 floppy.
Wow, impressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Well, please don't take it personal, no need to go in flaming after my post, as I well understand you can take my comments bad.
Well, first I don't see in your setup anything of a "serious OC", just air cooling, no motherboard modding... So, basic OC we can call it rather
Also, OC a C2D is not a C2Q. And, I'm still waiting to see your stable Q6600 OC at OCCT RAM for just 4h (no, no priming, but OCCT in RAM mode, the motherboard and X38 are the limit, and Prime95 won't show it even in Blend)
Why I write this? Just because I hate hearing wrong affirmations like it is possible to get a 470-500 MHz FSB from a quadcore, getting 500MHz from a C2D as if it is the habbit... If getting 3.8GHz was so easy (for C2Q or C2D), this wouldn't be quiet longest thread after just few weeks of its release
The rule of thumb is that most people won't exceed 3.6GHz of their C2Q, few will reach 3.8GHz, and some very very lucky people will get it over. I say lucky, not only serious OC, as you need a really good CPU/MB combo. Also, a +480MHz on a quad is already a rockser
Anyway, just really impatient to see some screens from your Q6600
I will post up some more settings in a bit, prolly when I get home from work....
I have 0505/0802 prime/OCCT and Memtest stable with the settings, had to retweak alot of it from 0505 ---> 0802 then after I will post up some 0903 results.
lol, you'll come around dude. I had to put transaction on auto. Try farting with settings. I had to start from scratch on this one, but it's noticeably better, I promise.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSamurai
I say this because for speeds sake alone and with no load test, I got it to post and go into windows fine at 4.1GHz. 200MHz higher than with 0701 (never tried 0802...).Now loading this beotch is a whole 'nother story. I expect something close to 3.9GHz, maybe 3.8GHz 24/7 loaded.. Right now I'm stable at 3.91GHz with 5minOCCT load, CPU only... Stable 2x so far anyway, stability needs repeatability under different ambient air temps! Still testing... GL & HF!
Dude, that is awesome. Let's keep all the rants and raves on this thread, and "official" stuff on the new one. Your effort is appreciated :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
On my C2D I am still not having any issues with 4x1GB sticks of PC8500. Only thing I have to complain about is the 266 strap. Everything else has been great for me. Watercooling the NB is really the way to go. My OCCT RAM load temps barely cracks 35°C with 1.62v put to it. This is with the RAM at 1200 5-5-5-15-2T, 4:3.
samurai i had the exact same problem as you did and i couldnt flash back so i have had to rma my board!!! im pissed that i was so damn stupid to flash when my mobo was rock solid @ 3.8...now i have to run @ stock settings or it wont boot so i called asus and got an rma number...although it pisses me off that i have to remove it from my damn case and remove the water cooling which is a B!TCH hope you can get yours going again i tried everythingQuote:
Originally Posted by TheSamurai
Why would you RMA? Just follow the instructions from previous posts on how to go back to a previous version.
Hi, because I believe the motherboard looks for a boot drive first on Sata 1...Quote:
Originally Posted by iadstudio
Chris
That's right. It probably won't hurt to keep them connected, but makes it simpler to unplug them. I did more or less the opposite. I have a RAID0 boot drive and a 500GB secondary drive. I leave the secondary unplugged for OS install, then once it's done plug that drive in to get my drivers, etc. loaded from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by iadstudio
sorry if this has already been posted but
0903 has been pulled from the page and the ftp site..
0902 is now the latest beta
So, if I have the Vista 64 upgrade from xp and I have to install xp first, this should work fine, right? (please say yes)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
I knew about this and thought Vista had RAID drivers imbedded. I tought I'd try to install normally in xp, not having to deal with the f6 "add 3rd parts driver" thing in xp and once I got to vista I tried to create my array. Only thing is the matrix storage utility software that I remember from xp wasn't available for vista. I found a knowledge base somewhere that said if you edit the msahci registry to 0 before you switch from IDE to RAID in the bios, you should be fine, but I didn't know that until after I had a problem.
Long story short, from what I understand of your post, I should be able to install my RAID driver in xp, install OS on a single drive and create a storage array and then upgrade to Vista and be fine. Right?
I still see 0903 on FTP as of 1546 GMT0500Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldy402
0903 (plus most of the other Bios') is linked in the new Maximus thread...
Sorry, little off topic but what kind of NB temps are acceptable at load if q6600 B3 is @ 3.4ghz FSB: 425 with stock NB cooling (no w/c)?
According the Anandtech, anything aove 47*c started to cause instabilities. Try to keep it below 45*c to be safe.
Hmmmmmm just did a quick 1 hour OCCT test and NB was hitting 47-48 during load, of course this could be part of the fact that I still have the rubber caps on the w/c barbs which would probably cause air inside the block to heat up and increase pressure. The highest temp any of the cores hit was 66C (everest) but it was stable (again only a 1 hour test though). What kind of voltage should i be throwing at the NB at this FSB of 425? I currently have it at 1.52v (as seen in everest).Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
edit: Getting W/C for xmas by the way so NB temps won't be a problem that long, just want to make sure it's stable at 3.4ghz before trying any further on air...
the 903 is on the taiwan ftp
i went back to the bios that worked for me and it didnt help....sux for meQuote:
Originally Posted by Renegade5399
I didn't try this as I installed Vista from an OEM DVD. This article http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.aspQuote:
Originally Posted by iadstudio
shows how to do a clean install with an upgrade key. I didn't load any F6 drivers at all for Vista, so if this works it should save you a bunch of pain.:up:
Not. Like I said before, use the ASUS master ftp server at ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...ximus_Formula/ . Any other location is a mirror that may roll back to an older copy of the master if it got hacked or corrupted (hence BIOSes "disappearing")Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldy402
Edit: kup, the server you list as master in your thread is a mirror in germany. The master server is in taiwan.
Use nlite to slipstream the driver into your Windows installation disk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Now that would be a reason to RMA. Sorry for your loss. Don't let it sour your opinion of the board though. I am really enjoying mine, it's a great board.Quote:
Originally Posted by tylerw13
ya i loved my board till i decided to update my bios!!! honestly it has been the most stable board i have ever owned but well sometimes you get thrown a curve!! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Renegade5399
If it was set up correctly as RAID ready on your XP X64 then yes, you can move it to Vista x64. If x86 XP or legasy ATA on XP x64, then you still ned to get the driver installed correctly befores you can boot to Vista X64 w/ RAID endabled. However, if "iostar" (Intel ICH driver) is not used origionally, it never got put to where Vista needs to see it to be used. So you may still have to direct it in the same fashion as mentioned before (from 2nd SATA controller). Because Enabling it to RAID alone doesnt make it ready just cause the driver was on the DVD/CD. You still have to update it so might as well go to Intel for newest one.Quote:
Originally Posted by iadstudio
This is just the same as having to reinstall all over again or go through repair mode. I dont believe nLite can be run in a x64 OS (correct me if thats changed). The iostar driver is spacific to AHCI, RAID, x86, or x64 for several different varients of the ICH9R so you must choose only the one correct driver to slipstream and it is now only good for that configuration, and must have another one for say an XP x86 install. But it's cool, I have guys doing it and they just make one for each PC and keep it for that one only. It will also out date quickly but you can update once in Windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grendel66
I myself, just do it the f6 method for each XP x64 and Server 2003 Ent x64.
i'd agree, and reseathing the heat sink made a huuuuge difference for me!!Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
So what do you guys think to the following temps, in Everest & PC Probe. This is idle now and I have my E6550 at 500x7, 50% OC...
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/883...sttempssx2.jpg
:confused:
FYI: AiSuite doesn't work in Vista or in XP SP2 for me .
Looks pretty good. What vr of Everest are tou running? I have v4.20 and beta 4.10 and they do not give correct volts on vcore and no more vdimm anymore . I'm on BIOS v0903, it starte since v0901. Also, I odnt get the choice to display NB, SB and correct +12v in options anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by thelawns
I had various instability at even my most stable profiles with this installed, under XP pro x64 SP2 and Server 2003 Enterprise x64.Quote:
Originally Posted by leoftw
Also, anybody notice we can no longer change Performance options in PC Probe without having to restart system. And no 3wire DC PWR control so really no use in using it if you have to either restart or leave off and manually control fans to load.
Any suggestions on external fan/volt monitor to be controlled in Windows based on CPU or system load?
Not if you started out w/ the disk ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Beats me, but vLite is in the works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Edit: nLite does run in x64.
Not exactly to my knowledge -- Iastore.sys supports all ICH7R-9R in AHCI or RAID mode and is a PnP driver. Install the whole thing and Windows will set it up via device IDs. You do need x86 and x64 versions naturally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
I just built a XP x64 install disk that way, to be installed tomorrow. If I'm wrong I'll post here.
32 bit or 64?Quote:
Originally Posted by leoftw
6.0 beta will work in 32 bit os, I know I was a victim
Did you try newest speedfan? I haven`t used it a long time and don`t know excactly if this works on it, or if something like that has been implemented in last versions!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
lol mine runs at 65C under load.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
To pazza316 with 477x9 - Dzammmnnn! What are your settings?
I've done some more tests and found that cpu pll is directly related to vcore, as I upped the vcore, I needed less pll. It's back down a little now, I didn't realize that pll was overvolted as well..
Mine runs to 50c @ my 4GHz @ 500x8 as 1.504v (stock fusion block sepperated from PWR blocks and remounted w/ ARS#5). My 2nd 480x8 on 5:6 required 1.52v NB and only hit 52c. As I tighten timings, the NB temps go up and it does seam to get less responsive as it nears 54c. So I believe for mine, 52c is comfort max zone, especially with devider as it puts more load on NB. The RAM sinks also ge hotter faster on my new 5:6 test devider but the overall performance feels good compared to the one in sig.Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
well i got it all together but i am waiting for my xp 64 to get here then i can fire it up. thanks for the part 2 thread it will come in very handy.
ok well just an update on my computer it looks like im not going to rma my mobo after all...after messing with it for a long while i decided to flash to 902 upon doing so i shut down my computer and reset my cmos...i left my computer off for about 15 minutes and wuala its back up and working with my full overclocking capabilities back as good as normal!! wow what a freakin crazy thing...it seems stable so far so we will see...lol
What versions of Everest are you guys using o this mobo to get correct volt readouts?
I have Everest Ultimate v4.10.1152 beta and v4.20 and the each read something different. I noticed this just since BIOS v0901 to now on v0903. beta ver reads CPU as 1.5v which it is set as in BIOS but working as 1.80v. In v4.20 it reads the as 1.10v.
Just curious.
EDIT: I replaced with current v4.20.1201 and it is back to normal and reads better. Except, I do not get the external options for NB/SB and other sensor items like others are showing. I selected the CPU/RAM ratio and timings but do not get it reported in sensor window. Is this just to display it in RAM Bench readout?
Edit: I got it now, the NB & SB readings.
ran in a problem after putting in the maximus when i load it up everything load the led the screen and then its just shuts off the little LCD screen that came with mobo read cmos error i tried clearing Cmos by pressing the botton clear Cmos...
Just messing around, I dropped my multi to 8. Set the FSB to 506, RAM to DDR2 1215, left all other settings alone. Booted fine, 1 hour OCCT RAM stable. Been running fine since. 0903 is a nice BIOS.
So are there any benefits for 0903 over 0902 as far as stability, voltage/temp variance, and latency goes?
There must be, as I can make better use of my 5;6 devider with stability and not so much volts as befor for 480x8 in 5:6 DDR1152 @ 5-4-4-10 @ 2.288v & 5-5-5-15 @ 2.24vQuote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
Only weird thing I noticed in each v090x was an occasional loos of settings if BIOS would slug randomly during POST or in loading of XP (loading bar would fade slightly as if it was gonna crash loading to RAID). This being in known good profiles and would pass many times but just do this after hrs of hot loaded stress.
Just something to mention, and like I said, it only happened twice each in each BIOS from 901~903 so far.
Good to know! I'll flash her later tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for the input nuckingfuts, informative as usual :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
BTW, my watercooling gear arrives tomorrow! w00t
i tried that one and the one that came with the board. both didn't work and bot were 32bit systems. Oh wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I've been testing further as to why I have such instability at 3.6GHz and it must either boil down to the CPU or the 0903 BIOS. I can easily hit 450 FSB with a lower CPU clock (x7 multiplier) when my board volts are only: 1.45 NB and 1.30 FSBT
I thought it was the memory causing problems because of the 4x1GB, but it doesn't look that way now.
Is it normal for the CPU to require over 1.43v for it to be stable at 3.6GHz? 3.4GHz is completely 12+h Prime stable at 1.38v. Does VID really play a significant part when it comes to clocking above 3.4GHz with the G0? because mine is 1.2875v.
After Prime at 3.6GHz I always get a BSOD, usually the 'system encountered an uncorrectable hardware error' kind of BSOD. Prime never actually reports a problem in the log, the system just BSOD's sporadically.
My temps on full load with 3.4GHz only ever reach about 57-60C max per-core according to Everest and Core Temp; at 3.6GHz they reach about 67 on average. I might try lapping my heatsink because I'm pretty sure the Ultra-120 eXtreme should be keeping the temps a tad bit lower than that.
Core's 3-4 are always slightly cooler than the first two as well, usually by about 2 or 3 celcius, but anyways, these temps are hardly a worry.
My previous mobo P5W64-WS Pro was reporting much higher temps than this ~80c and it was due to the temperature monitor being bugged, and ironically, the Maximus Formula suffered the same fate with its recent BIOS releases.
Now I'm not sure if it's the new BIOS 901~903 but I lost full ACPI function once on a devider. No matter what FSB/RAM config. I put it back to any CPU/RAM config of 1:1 and is fine again.
I realize this is or may be of no concern to most on here, but wanted to know if others were experiencing the same.
This goes back to what I said in the past. I'd choose in the end the profile that holds the most stable, reliable daily user functions v/s performance.
My 480x8 @ 5:6 tested well and retuned good overall performance. Later, I will test to see what area of mobo needs to be tweaked to get it to work. In the past like this on deviders other then 1:1 or 1:2, I could at least get S4 Hibernate to function even if S3 didn't.
I welcome any input here.
Just my findings.
It actually tells you at the top of the menu tree, its Everest v4.20.1170 the Ultimate Edition... :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
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Originally Posted by devilhood
LOL I get the same :banana::banana::banana::banana: . It's not your CPU its the boards bios. I ran my chip @ 3.6ghz on the stock heatsink on a abit Ip35-e easily with no problems.
Let me quess ; vists os right ?
what are the advantages to lowering the divider from 9 to 8? I've not done any testing at 8 yet? does it slow things down alot?
Yep. Good ole' Vista :)Quote:
Originally Posted by leoftw
You had the same problem? have you flashed back to 0902 to see if the problem went away?
Seriously though, it annoyed me to hell when it still crashed even at 1.45v VCore with 1.6v PLL, so basically the only logical assumption was to assume that the OS/BIOS was deciding to be a sh**
thelawns: how did you manage to fit your Ultra eXtreme 120 in with your NB IFX heatsink too? did you get the IFX/SLi version of the NB heatsink?Quote:
Originally Posted by thelawns
Could someone post a graph of their 3.3v line under full load (5 minute run) in OCCT? It looks like my Antec Quattro 1KW PSU is the weakest link in my hardware. Go figure!
devilhood, I don't know if mine might be a similar issue as I didn't get a BSOD, but I'm using 903 and this happened last night...
I've had my best luck with the 450x8 settings offered by Grnfinger. Over the past two days I've been tweaking and testing to see what kind of stability I can get at a lower VCore. I hadn't been using prime95 until last night, and after about 2 hours (according to the results log) my system apparently shut itself down. In none of my 4 results files (Q6600) was there an error reported, the system was just shut down when I woke up to check it this morning. It took about 10 minutes of pressing the CLR and RESET CMOS buttons and whatnot to even get the BIOS to post. Now it's back up, I'm back in Windows and I'm going to start again.
I've been testing with OCCT prior to attempting prime95 last night. My initial settings with a VCore of 1.55 ran OCCT blend test STABLE for 8 hours, but my temps were really high. So yesterday I started stepping down VCore. I had set my VCore to about 1.45, which ran OCCT's 30 min Auto Blend test just fine it should be noted, then I decided to try and run prime95 overnight with the above result. Sadly, as prime95 offers no monitoring like OCCT, I have no idea what was happening with the system in terms of temps and voltages at the time of the crash.
Then I am at a loss as to why my system is hard crashing :(
Like follows:Quote:
Originally Posted by devilhood
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9292/case2ng5.png
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9449/case1xa2.png
I have got two 80mm fans to fit to the NB & SB IFX's yet...
EDIT: These are the straight IFX, not the IFX SLI ones... The SB one was a very tight fit next to the 8800GTS...
Any ideas why my cpu temps are a solid 10c higher on this board? I'm using Everest 4.20 and the mobo temps are pretty scary (hovering around 40-45c) and my cpu is more than 10c higher than any other board I've owned. I did use some neoprine on mu backplate for the cpu mount, but coulc that be effecting temps? My only other guess it that moving the loop around, I must have gotten some debris in the cpu block.
Can sb. help me getting my Transcend axeRam 1200 working with other strap and devider than 333strap? My system only boots regulary, when I use 333strap and its deviders.
Any tricks getting 400Strap work? It`s **** having Ram running 1200mhz, but not having the ability to choose other deviders!
I have no troubles on 400 strap (0903), only 266 is still not working as it should.
I don`t get any of the 400strap-deviders working. Sometimes it doesn`t even boot, sometimes it boots but half of the things in post screen of bios are missing. Then it only says "Ami Bios Megatrends...", no IDE detection, no dram detection, nothing. Or it boots until he is shortly before windows loading screen, when the screen is black for 1-2 seconds, but he stays black with 400strap and doesn`t even show loading-screen :(
I have an idea but I`m not sure. My ram only boots with transaction booster disabled level 1, not higher or lower. And with 400strap there are some inside timings which are lower or "less aggressive" than lower straps, aren`t they!?
Therefor I theoretically have to put transaction booster disabled on level 0 or activated and find the one working setting.
Ok, there are better ideas definetly :ROTF:
What do you think? I tried this but haven`t find that right setting yet.
PS: Please excuse my english again :D
Anyone willing to post a graph of 3.3v line under 5 minute OCCT test? Thanks.
Hehe, I beat them all by a county mile :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Clump
http://www.warp2search.net/microsoft...ns-s31186.html
ChrisC
Thanks! I already installed but it'll help for future installs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clump
I got it to work finally. Only I used xp home with the x32 ich9R drivers then upgraded to vista x64. I assume the x64 drivers in vista take care of the RAID from ther on out, but it there any downside to starting from a x32 version of xp and going up to a x64 vista?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
I recently flashed to 903 and then back to 902, system does like either but I can't get back to 0602 I can't figure out why? EZflash won't let me "something about the board version" message and something, Temperatures under 902 are very high, also I can not long change the CPU multipler. Q6600 and Asus Maximus Special edition. Thermal right 120 extreme cooler. Any ideas.
Thanks
Take off NumLock and type the multiplier using the keypad... also if you want Auto again, just type Auto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tergon
It even says on the right side of the screen that you need to literally enter in the multiplier manually now :p:
Thanks but what about flashing back to a previous BIOS version any ideas guys.
Quote:
Originally Posted by devilhood
I can't be the only person with the temp issue with this board?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tergon
This is where most overclocking begins. Using a lower multi allows you to up FSB and better RAM as well, since you now get to make better use of 1:1 for best stability. If your CPU allows, you can also get same CPU clock but now at higher FSB for more system bandwidth. It can be faster in apps that love bandwidth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElEctric_EyE
If on the origional ASUS cement for SE version, these can be good temps if if you've OC'd a bit on the mobo and a NB of 1.5v. @1.504v, I get 42c on NB & 39c on SB @ 1.10v with Fusion block.Quote:
Originally Posted by iadstudio
Not sure what spacific devider you need or want, but if you leave the strap to Auto, you can get the various mixed deviders on the DRAM Frequency menu. I get 1:1/5:6/5:4/4:3/3:2/1:2. 1:1&1:2 or the most stable for me, but 1:2 is only gonna really be usefull on DDR3 so not much use here unless you got older CPU's to under 300FSB. Dont get me wrong, those early core 2's loved the 1:2 devider especially the 800FSB units. Regardless of what ratio, you need to loosen up timings a tad, increase NB, FSBT and NB GTL Ref plus Vdim to get stable. If running 4 slots, relax even further.Quote:
Originally Posted by eSp!s0
Here's a quick 7mn test as 480x8 in a 5:6 devider;Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9...31volt3xe0.png
I haven't had time to check, but does anybody know if this mobo and BIOS supports the ASUS "OLD_BIOS" recovery from ASUS Installation CD ROM? It was so for my old P4C800 where if flash gone bad or experiencing issues, one could restor from CD to factory installed BIOS. This way you were back to square one and could go forward to a known good BIOS as you choose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tergon
If somebody has tested this on this mobo, please let us know.
I have been trying to tell ppl for days now.:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Asus Update 6.0 beta will work on vista 32 bit and xp 32 bit, I posted a link to it maybe 10-15 pages back, I'll look for it.
I know it works cause I used it from 902 back to 802:up:
Link to Asus Update 6.0 Beta is on page 138 and below now
It came from my A8N-SLI Deluxe mobo disk
Will work for BOTH Vista 32 bit ( run as admin ) and XP 32 bit
http://rapidshare.com/files/73214067/AsusUpdt.rar
It state's in the manual the install cd will restore bios to factory
Thanks, Nuckin_Futs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
My 1KW PSU is a dud. Time for a 3.3v mod. I think that's what is responsible for me not clocking higher than 8x475.
here you go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Yes, I know that and saw it. I was reffering to an ASUS DOS utility that would not be OS dependent. A lot of people are nervous about Windows Live Update, so just thought I'd mention that alternative.
:)
How do these readings compare to what you guys are getting on this mobo and with hat PSU?
Here are my results with config in sig (SilverStone 600w PSU) on BIOS v0903.\
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2...12volt3cl9.png
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6...12volt5pn3.png
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4...2volt12ll5.png
Here is the DDR VDIM as set to 2.14 = 2.24 and drops to 2.22 under load.
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4...tomvoltjs2.png
Has anybody figured out if any tweaking of DDR2 Ref fixed the drop or fluctuation a lil bi tbetter?
vcore @ 1.467v is solid.
Thanks for that :up: , thought I was close to being done after a month. I was wrong, but I think 0903 will be a good BIOS to work with for awhile... maybe...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Thanks for that dude but, I know you are one like me that is still wondering how to go about it with 64-bit OS. I mean, if we have to reinstall a 32-bit OS just to reflash the BIOS then I guess thats what we have to do. Bit tedious though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
when settings are set to auto ; does that mean that it goes through the manufacture settings or the settings the mobo thinks is appropriate to run that hardware ?
what is the stock voltage a oem q6600 requires to be run @ stock from the manufacture ?
.85V-1.5V... Here's more info~Quote:
Originally Posted by leoftw
http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SLACR
Hello everybody.
I just built a new watercooled system with Asus Maximus Formula. But I have an interesting problem. Ram slots A1-A2 (blue and white banks near cpu socket) are not working it seems. I tried with different sticks of ram and I always get a DET DRAM error on lcd poster and the system fans just keep turning but no video. When I put sticks in B1 and B2 or single sticks in B1 or B2 the system boots up fine. However I can't use dual channel technology.
When I first bought this board all the ram slots were working because we have tried it. I upgraded the bios from 0401 to 0903 but no use. Can it be a memory compatibility or a motherboard bug. Or just two bad ram slots? Does anyone have a similar problem?
I had a similar problem with bios 902
Board would not boot unless I ran it stock, and then even at stock it ran like a pos
Could not run my Corsair 8500 at 1066 had to run lower, once back to 802 everything was a-o-k
Still waiting to try 903, somewhat aprehensive
Vcore is within Intel's spec of .85-1.5V. That rules out the CPU sending out spikes? On the Q6600 datasheet it says overvolting maybe damage cpu or external parts.. Your PSU is above the average amps for 3.3V @ 33A. I would think thats not the prob either...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
First off, dual channel is gonna be A1+B1 for the blue and A2+B2 for the white (these are the higher rated slots for DDR1200). Can you get it to boot as in either A/B 1's or 2's slots?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozan Baseski
I do recall some mobos being tricky with new RAM and just after a BIOS flash. I would try reset CMOS and boot. If it POST, load system defults and go from there. Although I never had this issue with my ASUS. But worth a shot.
Good luck.
I was just doing another stress test after lowering nbV and saw something I've not seen b4. Looks like the CPU temp max's out at 82*C, That's weird and after it stayed there awhile and didn't crash I decided to shut OCCT down for fear of damage. Volts monitor pic was snapped about 5 sec's after the first (forgot to resize the volts scale, sorry)
Just FYI after abit of browsing while letting my loop cool down, looks like Maximus Formula SE retail is done. You can only buy open box from newegg now... damn I'm thinking of adding another MCR320 and 3 more fans. I get into OC trouble when loop temp exceeds ambient by 10+*F.
So is it official that the 0903 bios is the best one yet? I'm still on the 0602 bios and wonder if it's worth the upgrade? 0903 users please chime in. :D
CPU is held again, stable at 1.480v
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/2...24volt3le9.png
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/8...24volt5oh3.png
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/6...4volt12bt8.png
Below is VDIMM as used in 5:6 as 1152MHz
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/3...tomvoltvf0.png
Is the fluctuation acceptable ofr the 5v rail?
Monitored with Everest v4.20.1201
Oh ya, It was said from the beginning that the "SE" version of this mobo was a Limited Edition production.
EDIT: In this profile, I only had to up NB to 1.536v and PLL to 1.642v. I was able to keep strap manual to 333 and DRAM frequency to 5:6 of 1153, Static Read Control Enabled, Ai Clock Twister to Moderate, and DRAM Booster Disabled- Relaxed to 0.
EDIT: In this config, I can use S4 but it was failing S3 support (it can enter often, but failed to resume) if allowed to cool for more then 5mins. That was w/ NB to 1.52v & PLL to 1.632v. After today of using NB of 1.536v and PLL of 1.642v it tested fine so far. Only days of use will confirm reliability. Full ACPI as in my 500x8 1:1 config were smooth as can be and fast too for entering and resuming of S3, resume from S3 to enter S4 (in auto), and resuming from S4. I figured since the deviders put such a strain on MCH and NB, it needed more volts to be ACPI stable since S3 is totally RAM and MCH dependant.
Yesterday, while running a test, I accidentally kinked my loop and didn't notice. PC shuts down. I power her up again and it loads windows, I fire up core temp, and temperature was at 100c and rising!!! I quickly hit the wall switch and saved myself about 300 bucks and the hassle :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElEctric_EyE
@ Nuckin_Futs: I will run a test asap and and upload my voltage levels. Looks like my PSU isn't too bad afterall. Though, I did the online wattage calculation run on Antec's website and the total clculation for my components was 1508 watts!!! and I'm only running 1KW!!! Anyway, my old psu I upgraded from actually delivers 285watts on the 3.3v, 5v, so I brought it into the mix to take some of the load off of the poor Antec TPQ IKW. No wonder the poor thing was always making some high pitched sqealing sounds when I stressed my system :D So I got my 10 S-Flex 120mm fans on the 600w PSU. lol.
Update to my above APCI stability isses under 5:6 devider:
I altered some of the settings and it feels a lot smoother and goes in and out of S3 (sleep) now.
VOLTS: PLL=1.648v, FSBT=1.488v, NB=1.516v, DDR2 Controller Ref Voltage to [DDR2 Voltage Ref], I am now able to fix strap to 333 and DRAM to 1153. I could not do this in the past few BIOS 802/901/902. So the BIOS are starting to improve. I believe this is gonna' be a sweet board for the better part of '08 till we move to DDR3.
Also in yesterdays test, DRAM Static Read, Booster, & Clock Twister were set in AUTO. Today, I moved them back to as before in my 500x8 profile (Static Read Control Enabled, Clock Twister to Moderate, & DRAM Booster Disabled & relaxed to 0.
In all my profiles, I can utilize X-bit Disable, and TM2+C1E, & Virtualization Enabled if I needed.
Who here is or can get full ACPI function w/ their overclock?
anybody else had problems with the rear firewire port? Mine doesn't seem to be working, but the firewire plug on the mobo for the front case port works fine. Any ideas?
I just had some fun last night taking the Fusion Block off with the hair dryer method, it came off pretty easily. What the hell did they use as thermal paste though? it was like melted plastic, very hard too, that must have been causing such heat dispersion inefficiency problems.
So, from experience guys, do you think it would it better for me to re-seat the Fusion Block with AS5, or shall I just use the Thermalright HR-05 IFX on the NB and SB?
I'm think of getting the SLI version of the HR-05 because they have curved heatpipes that stick out of the way of most components, this would be especially useful for the SB because thelawns experienced a tight fit against his 8800 GTS :D
The HR-05 IFX will be of course, by its design, a far better performer than stock cooling solution. Furthermore, it can fit a silent 80mm x15 or x25 fan, giving even more headroom.Quote:
Originally Posted by devilhood
If you think you need more overclock headroom, go for the HR-05. If your board is stable at your desired optimal OC, why bother?
Surprisingly, the ASUS thermal cement for mine was pretty good and close to what I got from AS#5 when done. So it wasn't too bad. What helped was sepperating it from the PWM block at back. I change it out anywayz.Quote:
Originally Posted by devilhood
But if you have the ThermalRights, for sure , use them. I'm ordering more so I can swap it out too, since I used them on my other 2 builds recently. The only other good cooler for this was or is the Enzotech 45mm round solid copper cooler w/ fAN added or the SWIFTECH MCX159-CU-NF w/ 40x20mm fan. It looks small, but wow, it really kept up with my HR-05 SLI with 60x15mm fan. And for ease of cooling on the SB, Enzotech also makes a short version of the block and it does great for NB overvolting too. on air or ad a tiny fan for more cooling if nothing is in the way. Copper is great on passive air.
As I'm looking through my wrecking yard of parts, I notice that certai Xeon server copper coolers almos fit if we can just mod them and bolt in since X38 uses a bolt through mounting and nice large IHS to seure even a big heave chunk of copper with a fan. For us Ultra 120 users, I am working on a model that clears the pipes and extends back like origional for use f larger fan and more copper rod pins of fins.
Cheers jonny/Nuckin, my temps were definitely not as low as I liked, especially the NB consistently reaching 50c.
I did temporarily put an 80mm pointing directly at the Fusion Block and that actually reduced temps by 10c, so I would imagine using the Thermalright would probably reduce temps by 15-16c in total.
SB is around 42-43c on average without any extra fans, so yeah, sounds like the Thermalright will be a great idea.
make sure your system is OCCT stable before upgrading and you should be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by HousERaT
The biggest difference the IFX makes is for the load temps, I couldn't believe how cool it kept the NB. I was expecting much better Idle temps though. The IFX SLI may be the better option on the SB, but if you have an IFX already, just see how it fits. Mine is a tight fit and its ever so slightly twisted because of the 8800GTS but as the SB chip is more than covered it works just fine. My 8800GTS might have a slightly bigger plastic fan housing than your GTX, you never know...Quote:
Originally Posted by devilhood
I still need to get my 2 80mm fans fitted, just to have on a low setting to help keep thinks cool and quiet!