Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Well as far as benching, I've been waiting for at least a month now due to broken down parts. I won't wait any longer, it's time to bench:D
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Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Well as far as benching, I've been waiting for at least a month now due to broken down parts. I won't wait any longer, it's time to bench:D
OPP
Wow, I guess you just move the Jumper over for the 5V?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blindbat
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Can't wait for your results OPP. :) Lets hope this board does what the NF3 754 DFI did for your 3dmark score at the time :D
WOW! BH-5 still the bomb after all these years.
In real world tests that BH-5 you have running right there will destroy any TCCD. A64 prefers LL over bandwidth except in silly synthetics like sisuck.
As I show here:http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...readid=1475190
Course both is ideal. But I'd take LL over bandwidth anyday.
Yip, so it seems. Sadly I don't have a board to confirm 100%, so send me your's and I'll reconfirm...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
yes the circle is what did :D
Oskar wu told me that long time ago...:D
OPB
DFI,, DFI,, :slapass: :slapass:
The Chipset fan is to High for ATI cards:D
Yes If you plan on getting the DFI 939 board and you have an ATI card be prepared to Change the Chipset heatsink:D
They should have sent this board a month ago :ROTF:
I can't believe they never tryed to sick an ATI card in:D
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You're supposed to use two nvidia cards:D...but that's good to know..XTPE I presume.
what the.... :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
but if you got sli board, you still have the other one to insert that ati..:D
edit: ooops...I am wrong...still be blocked :(
Rats , I like this magnetic levitation fan...rats....anyway to pound it down..try 3 pounder sledge hammer after all it's only a 6 layers mobo, never know what the 5 pounder will do.Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
let us know ....lol!
On a more serious note however OPP, if one was to use a dremell and chip away the contour of the cooler to the max possible, would it fit then?
Crap now I need to find a chipset cooler...crap !
@OPP:
what are the clearances between the two sli slots? i'm trying to plan out a gpu watercooling setup and need to know if a block with 19mm profile would be able to comfortably fit between the 2 cards. given clearance with stuff from the back of the other card, i'm hoping there's at least 25mm between the 2 slots.
what are the clearances for around the chipset with respect to the graphics card, would a waterblock fit in any orientation underneath installed gfx cards?
Think I heard it was 1.625" spacing on the x16 slots.
OPP... what voltages are you running on your X800 gpu/mem?
No, the fan itself sits to high. You could take away all the Metal and set the fan on the Silicone and it would still be to high. Just kidding:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Blindbat
But no, you can't do it because of the fan.
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http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...993#post674993Quote:
Originally Posted by jikdoc
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%$#&?%$#....i not like bananas...talk about a f*ck up, frankly dissapointing to hear of such a shall i remain polite and say ..error!Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Ok, plan B let's see if we can dremell the new X800 XL...but let's see the result of the dremelling on your X850 PE first OPP, just so I know how to do it on mine.
lol,
thanks opp, that's what i get for jumping to the last page of the thread. sorry for the repeat question.
how tall is the chipset fan that it blocks the ati card? 3rd party chipset coolers probably wouldn't fit if the stock one is too tall, i guess you're stuck with using a low profile waterblock or scavenging a chipset fan from an old board
how about.....
take away the heatsink from the chipset...
and just do....
direct air cooling to the chipset from external fan? :)
Will it burn? :lol:
My lttle blue Asus H/S on it now is frying big time, hot, hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
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Grab a spray bottle and give it a little spritz from time to time. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Man that is a kick in the pants. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
I would go SLI, but cannot afford 2x cards, and when it comes down to single cards vs. single cards I have a very strong preference for ATi. It's really a bummer that these cards are basically on the street, thus no chance for a quick fix.
What are the odds that DFI might make a revision of the board in the near future with an ATi compatible chipset fan?
Oh what the hell, how can they do that? I'm getting a K8N now, f**k DFI.
How's the new FX-55 going with the extra volts ? Did it hit a brick wall at 3400 or so, or is it overclocking more ?Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Regards
Andy
Hel-löy?
1st post on this board, about that ATI thing, check out this thread from the DFI-boards...
It seems that Angry_Games (DFI-street admin) is running his NF4 SLI-DR board with an ATI X850 XT PE with no clearance problems whatsoever...
Before we get more information (Which make and model of an ATI PCIe card doesn´t fit) and more evidence (pictures) I would tend to believe that it will be quite possible to install an PCIe ATI card to either of the PCIe 16x slots. So calm down, I don´t think there is need to panic or overreact.
Ok, I have to say this even though it could mean a little or nothing in the end: His board is not the latest version, i.e. "The Production Version" board that most of you peeps will get from the stores within a couple of weeks. It *doesn´t* differ visually or component wise from the production board, the chipset fan is the same. The only difference should be in it´s BIOS. That said, y'all just relax and while away your time doing something creative. (Like frantically browsing the hardware sites waiting for the first reviews of this board to be published... :D )
Welcome to XS !!!
A lot of us have this board on pre-order and have x800XL's or whatever on order aswell, can you please tell us what cards dont fit and if it will be fixed by the time the shops get these boards?
Dave
Hi!
And thanks for the welcome! :)
Hmmm...
I do not work for DFI (Nor am I in anyway affiliated with them) so I really have no idea about that. I can only rely on information that I find from the net. But I think it would be safe to trust Angry_Games's words about this...Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiticeira
Linkage:Quote:
Originally Posted by Angry_Games (DFI Forums admin)
DFI Forums thread about the NF4 SLI-DR
I would like to know also? I will do runs today with my new fx55 and this time if its a good chip like before you can use it for awhile since It looks lke ATI isn't shipping those damm pre-ordered 850's still :mad:Quote:
How's the new FX-55 going with the extra volts ? Did it hit a brick wall at 3400 or so, or is it overclocking more ?
Regards
Andy
Time for the old days when we slapped a tec on the chipset ;)Quote:
My lttle blue Asus H/S on it now is frying big time, hot, hot.
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http://img64.exs.cx/img64/1700/nf20pl.jpg
;)
hello,
I also preordered this board (sli-dr), but i´m not shure which graficcard to get.
but i prefer the x800xl.
the board here in germany will be released on 28th or 31th january.
has anybody a picture of the board with an ati card, so we could see that it will fit
:lol: you are refering to someone who work with DFI... :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by manalainen
Off topic post follows (sorry, I just couldn´t resist replying...):
>TicTac:
If I got it right you are poking me for saying I´m not in anyway affiliated with DFI, right?
I frequent and have even registered to that forum but that doesn´t make me *affiliated* with DFI or with Angry_Games for that matter. I´m not a member of DFI and I do not work for Angry_Games.
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From the Dictionary.com:
Affiliated:
1. To adopt or accept as a member, subordinate associate, or branch: The HMO affiliated the clinics last year.
2. To associate (oneself) as a subordinate, subsidiary, employee, or member: affiliated herself with a new law firm.
3. To assign the origin of.
v. intr.
To become closely connected or associated: The two unions voted to affiliate.
n. (--t, -t)
A person, organization, or establishment associated with another as a subordinate, subsidiary, or member: network affiliates.
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Further replies to this particular piece of off-topicism can be PM´d to me, (That is if anyone should bother...) Thanks! :)
can anyone confirm whether there is 4 holes on the mobo ? particularly below the hsf holder :D..I want to mount my H20 block.....want put my winnie on H20 else had to think of a way to mount my H20 block....
thanks
The 850's are shipping. Mine is on the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by choseone214
http://www.angrygames.com/pics/nf4/nf4sli_5.jpg
this is the board with an x850xt pe installed. Crappy picture. OPP, you have an MSI x800xt pci-e.. is it the same ati refference design? Same damn pcb etc? this pic from Angry_Games's is really bad. it doesn't show much, but that is indeed a x850 xt pe.
Ummm...pic is scary in a sense for it looks like it would be a challenge to place a second similar graphic card in there...Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
Anywho, Ultra is what I ordered and now that 850 fits....so does X800 XL (on order). I'm happy...just got to be patient and wait for the stuff.
Quote:
Originally Posted by manalainen
All tictac is saying is you're trusting angry games who works for DFI...
he never said you are affiliated with DFI.
and what the hell are you doing giving him a definition of affiliated? do you think hes stupid or something?? You have 3 posts; show some respect and respect will be shown to you
/off topic
considering an x850 fits, maybe its an x800 wont fit? OPP where is the fan blocking? The pcb or heatsink on your card?
So do they frickin' fit or not? Does OPP have an old reference board or have the designs changed? I tend to believe OPP when he says they don't.
We need a definitive answer from DFI on this one.
From the pic trans am posted i guess that it does fit.
thats an x850 though....a x800 series might not fit
"before you go crying out 'omg there's a problem already!' realize that I have a board that isn't the final board, and OCZ Tony himself has the latest revision of board with a different BIOS than I have. I am checking into it."
In the above quote, angry says his board isn't the final revision. It's all specualtion at this point but my guess is Opp knows how to install a videocard.
I have ATI X300, ATI X800XT and this MSI XT800 card. None of them fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
I have the SLI board, Maybe the the Ultra version uses a smaller H/S, I doubt it though.
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OPP, the chipset cooler is in the way of the cards? sorry If I missed what the issue Is here.
Reread from the last page:DQuote:
Originally Posted by choseone214
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That's also an SLI board OPP that A_G is using, now at stake is : Is the board he has a pre-release board ( possible ) and final board ( which I think u said u have ) somehow, somewhere components shifted by design ~ darn puzzling this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
choseone214:
Franklly dude how hard is it to go back a couple pages to read the thread, as oppose to asking people to repeat themselves....geezzz seriously !
When I used it on the cascade the other day I found it ran at 1.95/2.4 to get 789/659. I still have to work on the card, I think it will do higher core MHz with more volts.Quote:
Originally Posted by uwackme
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maybe the card is half the way in the slot ...
Hey Opp, did DFI include a 20 to 24 pin ATX adapter in the box? I want to know if I have to order that seperate from my DFI NF4 DR-SLI purchase.
All I know about this board is it came in the box with all the goodies like a real one. I also know they did some mods on it before they sent it so it can't be mass production.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blindbat
There are only 2 ways they would have to do things to modify this board, a lower H/F or taller PCI-E x16 slots. Taller slots would throw the card mounting bractet out of alignment though.
Frankly I don't care about the Chipset heatsink, I always change them anyway.
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DFI tech support already stated they will NOT support 20 to 24 (or very close to similar comments), they insist that an ATX 12 PSU be used, and all 24 pins connected.Quote:
Originally Posted by kraggy
Check dfi-street on that one.
Look in this thread:
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/show...&pagenumber=35
I was useing the 5v jumper for memory last night.
It works good, it ran my VX at 3.65 without problems.
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that's good news
Or move the darn chipset away from that stupid location ! With plenty of experience from 754 boards for example, one would think manufacturer would have learned something there.Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
(as for final board, sorry I think Tony said that he had final board, I guess I assumed same for you )
Running hot in that corner of that bridge even with the h/s on the mofset? fan required or suggested when on 5 volts setting?Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
I'm not useing a fan over there and every thing seems ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blindbat
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As far as the chipset heatsink It may have a problem because I'm useing my cascade on the CPU.
When I tighten down the evap it bows the mobo a tad, this may be bending it enough to make the gpu card touch the chipset.
Someone on a air setup will have to try it.
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Ah well that is also good news then, there was some mixed comments about that even from Oscar it seems.Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
I sure hope what OPP said above is correct. Time for me to stop speculating and trust that DFI will have everything worked out for the release.
Opp make yourself one of these.
http://www.jason57.iwarp.com/msineo2/o.jpg
use #6 bolts and since the holes are just big enough in the mobo for #6 make sure you drill accurate. after you do the 9 holes place the mobo in the support and make 2 #6 holes where you would use the hold down then apply 2 3in #6 bolts to the board with the exact same height as the stand offs with the washers and so on so it looks like this
http://www.jason57.iwarp.com/msineo2/s.jpg
add some foam like this
http://www.jason57.iwarp.com/msineo2/r.jpg
install it and get this
http://www.jason57.iwarp.com/msineo2/p.jpg
http://www.jason57.iwarp.com/msineo2/q.jpg
I gaurt you nothings going to warp at all as I uses some massive force now wihtout any issues.. If you get my design right you could add 200lbs force to the chip wihtout a warp anywhere.
I had issues rem and I think this was my cure. :)
:D Let's see some results - did You already bench the board ???Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
:toast:
Ok, I hereby make a public apology for misunderstanding and overreacting to TicTac´s post.
TicTac, I am sorry.
The thing that I hanged on to was the affiliated part, I just wanted to make it clear what it means and obviously it appeared to be a bit too strong or even a childish/nerdy response. I don´t usually try to mitigate things if I have been an ass but all I can say at the moment is this is a trying time for me IRL, it would have propably been best if I hadn´t posted at all...
About trusting a DFI employee who is also a PR person directly in contact with the core usergroup of DFI´s products, the enthusiasts? Considering the seriousness of this possible design flaw, if he says that a particular videocard, in this case an ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (A reference design) fits the board (Physically the same as reference design and a production board) then I have a tendency to believe him, yes...
This is a thing that can be easily proven in seconds if a person has the required components so why would he lie? He would upset a quite a lot of people by doing that and besides, DFI would loose an assload of core usergroups customers for a long time if it really were true. (And looking at the recent information it seems that it is a close fit but the cards mount as they are supposed to...) I also seem to remember calling for further info before beheading DFI, i.e. which card model from which manufacturer etc. didn´t fit? Just trying to alleviate panic, that´s all...
P.s. I don´t equate a post count with anything else than the number of posts a person has made with that particular nick. Ok? It was not my particular intention to piss on anyones shoes, quite the contrary.
If anyone wants to discuss this with me further there is always the PM option... Don´t want to pollute this thread with any more off topic posts... k?