Don't sweat it. I appreciate all of the suggestions I'm getting, and its nice to see folks trying to help. Thanks anyway:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy
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Don't sweat it. I appreciate all of the suggestions I'm getting, and its nice to see folks trying to help. Thanks anyway:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy
You are welcome :toast: By chance were you running a ups as once again :rolleyes: I am sure they cover surges under warranty depending on brand.Quote:
Originally Posted by mdzcpa
Tim
sorry to hear about the loss of all that hardware, if that happened to me I would be out of luck as I have no way to replace my stuff
DAAAAAAAMMMNNN! I am sorry for your loss! Hope your insurance works out for you. I have a similar hardware running in my comp and I was using the same PSU just about two weeks ago. I'm glad I switched to 850SSI though anything can happen and nothing is guaranted just because you have more powerful PSU.
:stick: :(
Glad to hear you got back a system running so fast. If you think this way, you can spend some time gaming instead of 95% benching (that is what most of us end doing, spend a lot of cash and time in a gaming rig to not game at all :D)Quote:
Originally Posted by mdzcpa
A single GTX with an FX60 can manage any game out there, unless you have a 30" monitor.
Aww expensive loss there. I've seen PCP&C PSU's blowing up and taking out hardware on here before. Although I've never had trouble with my old Turbo-Cool 510 Deluxe (non-SLi) when I was running socket 478. Looks like you need to get a Zippy 700w to replace that PCP&C ;)
Damn, I know I'd be ****ed if my main rig blew....cant afford to trash hardware like some people on here :p:
I learned my lesson with a TT 480W a while back...12v was all over the place, quickly replaced it with this Enermax which I still have now.
LOL thats what you get when hardmodding and OCing a monstrous rig on a mere 500W PSU.
Your super powerfull SLI rig and FX 60 needed AT LEAST a 650W PSU after you voltmoded and OCd it.
No PSU should run at more tnan 80% its max load for a longer time. A 100% load can kill even the best power supply on the market.
^ nice start :stick: A "mere" 500w psu cmon.... Posts like this make people decide not to tell which will help no one.
Thanks for sharing/warning and sorry for your loss mdzcpa.
This had nothing to do with vmods.Quote:
LOL thats what you get when hardmodding
Power surge can be an very possible candidate, so
can heavy load on single psu.
Sorry for the loss Mike. Glad to see you've gotten it back up and running again.
Sorry to hear that, that's more than my rigg costs :eek:
DONT quote just a small fragment of my post. I said that:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynasty
"LOL thats what you get when hardmodding and OCing a monstrous rig on a mere 500W PSU.
And YES even a very good 500W PSU IS NOT ENOUGH for a rig with dual voltmoded 7800GTX 512 and a phase-change cooled FX60 @ 3.1GHz
Both GPUs can draw 120 W ON STOCK and at least 150W when modded, that CPU will need ~130-150W, thats almost 450W of pure load and I didn't count the hard drives, the voltage regulator on the mobo and the mobo, the DDR's, DVD's and other stuff.
That poor 500W psu was loaded to the max almost all the time. No wonder it died with a spectacular death. This is the price you pay for underestimating the importance of a sufficient PSU...
If you can afford a rig that scores over 10000pts in 3dm05 and plan to OC + voltmod it in you should pick your PSU really carefully and stay away from anything that has less that 600W on it. Even the best power supply can cause severe damage to ypur PC when it's overloaded all the time and NO overvoltage protection circut will give yoou 100% security.
Thats really unlucky having lost all that hardware. If I ever get a top end rig id probably want like dual 600W branded PSU's. Just to make sure...
LOL...ain't that the truth!Quote:
Originally Posted by mursaat
Yep, I'm gonna chill from the benching scene and just do other stuff like gaming, working on my media library, surfin the net.....all things normal folks do with a solid machine :D
Damn!! i feel u.. but why wud u trust ur psu (even a 510 pc&c) with all that precious hardware?!?!?
i don trust any psu manufacturer, NONE!
LOL...I could have read the same thing last week from that limp Extreme Tech article...thanks for the insight.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by -orion-
I love getting lectured by a forum noob who only registered to reply on this thread (hey PCP&C, is that you?) Its especially amusing when they ignore the relevant facts as well.
If you read the thread, you would know that the vid card volt mods were NOT active when the rig blew. I was running stock voltage. (When I do bench and use the volt mods, I also only run 1 hard drive and nothing else....no multiple HDs, no ATAPI drives, no nothing).
Bottom line is that the PCP&C 510 should have been able to handle what I was running without "dying in spectacular fashion". The very notion that its okay for PSUs to fry everything in the system when they are overworked is utter nonsense. Granted, the 510w may have been pushed hard, but that's what any decent overvolt protection is for. The fact that the 510w Turbo Cool cannot handle a modestly overclocked FX60, 2 7800 GTXs, and a 3 HDs without grenading the entire system IS a problem.
Furthermore, just look around a see how many PCP&C 510s are being run by folks running the same set of specs I was.....ALOT. Check out the ExtremeTech article that says the PCP&C 510w passes muster for high end SLI rigs. That's not true and that's why I posted this thread.
Again, its one thing to get shut downs and instability from pushing the envelope, but it is quite another to have everything fried.
I must compliment you, though. Since the topic of high end SLI PSU requirements has come to light over the past week, and we've been seeing shutdowns and failures, your hindsight is indeed 20/20.
Kill, fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by -orion-
However, there is that little detail about the overvoltage protection which *should* kick in - and didn't.
Personally I am more and more glad I didn't keep the PCP&C.
The guy just loses a nice rig and you think it's funny?:slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by -orion-
All these companies were saying that a 500 watt good quality PS was fine for a sli rig 6 months ago and it's only recently( past 30 days+) that we're finding that isn't true. Your world of perfect knowledge must be nice to live in.
In my world we live and learn, sometimes through errors..
Bottom line is that you don't do a "LOL" to someone that's just lost a system no matter if it was their fault or not.
That just shows a lack of class on your part! (Rant over)
I know. Just months ago the PCP&C 510 WAS the top dog. The unfortunate part was that I had just finished modding my case to accept the larger PCP&C 850 or 1kw PSU. I knew I wanted to get a more powerful unit for more overhead. I spent the weekend two weeks ago modding the case and moving things around. I was going to order the new unit soon and was saving up the cash. Since the 510 had shown no signs of weakness over the last 8 weeks, I didn't figure i needed to rush.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brett
Guess I was wrong.
BTW, thanks Movieman. I may have been wrong to trust the 510 to such duties without turning into Chernobyl, but you are right about one thing, the manufacturers still don't have a clue.
Really sorry to hear about loosing all that hardware. I had been using the 510 for a very similar rig. Scares me just reading about you misfortune. I had just been reading bens thread about modding the Zippy 700w. A couple of weeks ago I stripped down my rig and have been using a single card, dual drive air rig for gaming. Think I'll buy a new ps before going back to a bench rig. Thanks for posting this. Hope you get even better stuff real soon.
Wonder where you got all that info from??? Here maybe?: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=83317Quote:
Originally Posted by -orion-
Look at the date on the thread, mid-December 2005.
Please don't talk to mdzcpa that way. New members never have permission to attack veterans like you did.
-FCG
I think I remeber that thread - wasn't I the only one agreeing with you...Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
I had spoken a couple of week back with the folks at PC&C and at that point they were still under the impression that a 510W should be more than fine for a overclocked SLI system. I tried to bring across that it wouldn't, and for that the 850W would be the minimum for that task ( well I got the 1k unit to also be able to handle a 955...)
With the 510W unit with a overclocked Dual Core AMD @ 1.65V and stock volted 7800 GTX 256MB can bring those 510W units to it's max - often you can hear the PSU or parts of your PC with an audible humming noise.
What is troubling about all this is that no better safety precautions are implemented by PSU as well motherboard manufacturers ( hint hint DFI?) - I would think that something could be done to prevent such extreme incidents.
Wow thats the most hardware i think ive seen a psu take out, ive lost Motherboards and videocards in one swipe but not harddrives and other parts along side them.
Now im not sure if PC P&C is a good psu for me :confused: I was just about to order one too now i am not sure as usual lol