Let's reduce the "fanboy" remarks here...plus lets wait for official reviews, as I'm tired of saying that to everyone, and I'd rather not have my PMs do the talking.
Perkam
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Let's reduce the "fanboy" remarks here...plus lets wait for official reviews, as I'm tired of saying that to everyone, and I'd rather not have my PMs do the talking.
Perkam
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Originally Posted by perkam
:D There is no review of 1900 yet.I cant find drivers for this card yet.So i gues ,alt this is only rumors.:D
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Originally Posted by flisko
newest 6.1 dont support x1900's
the drivers on the disc that come with the card are a diff rev than the 6.1's
these are NOT rumors, people have already bought and received cards lol
.. but i don't understand how peoples can post bench of the X1900XT with score lower of a X1800XT PE bios.. If they will give bad score.. they should look what's the score of a x1800... how can be this under
10k.. when a x1800xt is better of that.. It will be cleart the G71 released after will certainly beat the x1900XT, but really not at this point..
my mobo is due in tommorrow and I'll be able to post x1900xt w fx-57 scoresQuote:
Originally Posted by perkam
I don't have any decent cooling yet to give you guys o/c scores though
when geforce says 100% increase in piplines for the 7900 i think he means in comparison to the x1900 not to the 7800
gf4 doesn't know what he's talkin about =P. When the x1800xt was released with only 16 pipes and it pwned the 7800gtx it showed that pipes aren't as important as people think and that overall architecture mattersQuote:
Originally Posted by brandinb
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Originally Posted by sabrewolf732
agreed
New games that comes this summer will problebly show an advantage of ATI´s cards but in all,
the cards are faster than before run old games just fine, the question is,
does them run the new games with AA and AF crancked up at 4AA and 8AF or more at the framerates I wont it to be with my setup?
Can I max my cards AA and AF with this x game then I be off with any card that satisfy that.
I rather wait until G80 and R600 since it seems thats when the new Vista and unified arcitecture comes.
Until then, x1800xt seems to be good enoff ;)
ORB and 3Dmark is just for those that enjoy benchmarks not playing games.
I do both so I never be at the edge in any of those but I enjoy the playing...
Time for some BF2 I think ;)
Pls be aware that prior to this, the inq and visionary from vr-zone have tested the cards with single and dual core processors, and have attaied 3dmarks of at least 10k at stock...with overclockability on air breaking the 12k barrier with ease.
Perkam
This guy is a moron. I score over 10,000 in 3dmark05 with an X1800XT, the X1900XT will be much faster than 9000...
I just think its funny that when fanboyism starts intelligence (and of course objectivity) go straight out the window. Honestly who cares who makes a card if it happens to offer the best features/performance? What really is the point of brand loyalty here?
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Originally Posted by ManicOne
Agreed
my last 2 cards were NV
but not this time :)
http://www.supload.com/files/default/x1900.jpg
http://www.supload.com/free/x1900.jpg/view/
the guy on hard had problems getting the clocks to stick. I think the thread title has to be revised and he's defaulting at 500MHz core /600 mem o.O WHich explains his low scores. The x1900xt is supposed to be 625 no?
2d clocks mebe?
He's at less than stock clocks, with a 3GHz single core, and he still broke 11.2k, I'd say that's pretty impressive and a good bit faster than a 7800gtx 512. At stock clocks Im guessing he should break 12k or so. This matches up nicely with the predictions of hexus.Quote:
well , lets think about it for a second ,
if the 1900xt is suposed to be clocked at 625/725 stock and im getting 9k with the stock settings on 3dmark05 ,
then i clock it to 602/702 with ati tool ,which is less then the supposed stock clocks and scoring 11k ,
what clocks is the card really set to run? 500/600?
my cpu is clocked to 3.02xghz @ 275mhz , 2.5-4-4-7, 1:1
What your all forgetting is theres going to be a negligable difference between this and ALL cards (right down to int. graphics) when it comes to 3dm06.....were talking about 20 points to 30 points or so..............:p:
But seriously. Its obviously going to be better than the x1800xt, which is running close to the 7800gtx 512 at the moment, so this will be the fastest card going when its released :fact: . Anyone else wonder why it seems idiots get all the new hardware to bench first and give it a bad review?
Cause its the idiots that break the NDA :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincentvega18
qft lol. But seriously this guy's card wasn't clocked how it was supposed to be. right now he's at 600/700 and breaking 11.2k, that's lower than stock people. stock is 625/725 so 11.5k should be cake with his 3GHz opty. Which is exactly what hexus predicted. 11.5K stock :eek: so gf4 basically FUBARED his thread title, it should be 11.2K at less than stock XDQuote:
Originally Posted by AlterBridge86
Yes, it is all good for ATI now x1900XT is faster than 7800 GTX 512. ATI fans are all excited and all. One month later, tables turned, Nvidia fans rejoice because 7900 GTX beats the x1900XT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Willis
This will never end.
Playing games (1600x1200 with max quality) at 60 fps before with X1800XT then spend $600 for X1900XT and play same games at 70fps. Wouldn't it be more fun to spend $600 and play the same games with new DirectX 10 cards later this year at 90 fps?
Thankfully, most of the market aren't obsessed geeks like us that care too much about having the latest and greatest at every second, no matter what.
But I will be satisfied with an X1900XTX CF for years and years to come. Frame Rates that get to a point where you can't discern the difference between one or the other just make the point moot.
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Originally Posted by ewitte
sad that your x1800xt PE is faster than the x1900xt! Clocks of the x1900xt is 650/1550 I think. Although I expect the x1900xt to overclock to where your x1800xt does.
"your math skills are lacking, a 100% increase in pipes would be 48 pipes."
I think I was comparing x1900xt vs. 7900gtx :p:
".. but i don't understand how peoples can post bench of the X1900XT with score lower of a X1800XT PE bios.. If they will give bad score.. they should look what's the score of a x1800... how can be this under
10k.. when a x1800xt is better of that.."
The clocks of the x1900xt are lower than the x1800xt PE
"This guy is a moron. I score over 10,000 in 3dmark05 with an X1800XT, the X1900XT will be much faster than 9000..."
This remains to be seen. I will refrain from predictions, I am only going by facts and figures, not speculation. The fact is he got 9000 marks. Is this a good score or not? Untill more people test it, we dont know.
the clocks themselves dont matter much.however the number of alu,s each card has certainly does.the former has 48 while the latter only has 16.they both only have 16 rops however, just like all of ati,s and nvidia,s current high end cards still do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
OK let's be rigourus with facts then, some random guy posts *results*, so ? i can get you 200 in 2005 with 2 7800GTs in sli...Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
so you have a choice, either you go by pre-nda sources, which all say that x1900xt is faster then a gtx512, exept for one... you have a convergence of evidence... OR you can NOT go by pre-nda sources, and then you discard all including your fav 9k...